[02:51:12] bro [02:51:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315511053009817713/image.png?ex=6757aca4&is=67565b24&hm=197f786a47d469dd9b13a6bade5d3054aa88cb3e686cda1d449ccba61cd8780c& [02:51:22] if the donation sitenotice will take over half of the page then maybe just put an ad or two [03:02:41] Is NavBox a template that is available to all Wikis by default? [03:02:45] or do we have to create our own? [03:28:58] [1/3] how can i fix the empty lines here that happen when i have an empty parameter in this if template? [03:28:58] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315520539288141824/image.png?ex=6757b579&is=675663f9&hm=e06d1b7147dcee035d55fec248e56dab4a74e45998295cf4b8f43509e65e712a& [03:28:59] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315520539661566042/image.png?ex=6757b579&is=675663f9&hm=c55c4f028ccefff58bc5a2dd53a2599dc0d8797235e3f28fd2a9c0af052353fd& [03:29:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315520675993223250/image.png?ex=6757b59a&is=6756641a&hm=77b54ca8e280121e529e3faf24eba20c80c4574b9c18eed56c612980accad8e6& [03:50:50] [1/2] Think you would have to delete a bunch of linebreaks for that, so that the end of each parser functions have the start of the next right after on the next line. [03:50:50] [2/2] Yes sometimes with wikitext, you have to make ugly looking "code" for it to function properly sadly [03:52:35] put them all in one line had no difference :ThinkerMH: [03:52:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315526537323348110/image.png?ex=6757bb0f&is=6756698f&hm=c55f55427bccd35832721713cd47e40baacf6d5ea6e6d18069750b68efac6234& [03:54:10] Try and move the `/includeonly` up at the end of that line too [03:55:41] there we go that worked :trout: thank you for the help [03:58:16] [1/2] Your welcome 🙂 It is such an annoying quirk for sure of the parsing. Basically is something like, a newline = new paragraph for the output, so as a result, you get an empty paragraph tag `

/p`, that end up being quite a bit of empty space, when you have an empty line. And an parser function with a no output result is also treated as empty line, if there is nothing else on that lin [03:58:17] [2/2] e to produce something to parse. [03:58:17] yes [04:02:53] Okay I tried that but for some reason, my wordmark still displays the hyperlink of the wiki. Is there a way to make the image bigger? [04:02:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315529078266396672/image.png?ex=6757bd6d&is=67566bed&hm=8e803b47c51ba76139767300c3741682345969610aa57d68ed07e1670829cec0& [04:03:10] I tried expanding the pixels but it shows a blank [04:04:05] no [04:04:07] not for timeless wordmark [04:04:15] you can change the width and height for wordmark for all skins [04:04:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315529529242026095/image0.jpg?ex=6757bdd9&is=67566c59&hm=f7788f5201b83ed20c85d32db863194985b207a1a8af92538640697977506af1& [04:05:26] you have to create your own navbox [04:09:06] so the wordmark on the wordmark box isn't for the top left corner? [04:09:26] ahh rip thanks. Guess back to coding. [04:10:12] i honestly have no idea whats the difference between timeless wordmark and normal wordmark [04:11:02] youre using vector 2022 skin so [04:14:55] maybe CSS styling can help fix that [04:35:02] is there a soul on this earth who would object to be just deleting this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Anonim_lider totally blank json page that was in user space but now not [04:36:15] OH got that fixed. I just had to fill the top and then readjust slightly [04:38:39] Yeah, that's a userspace-style experimentation with no content in the meta mainspace. Notify on talkpage + delete seems prudent as there's literally no content. [04:39:22] i dont wanna write a talk message at 20 to midnight eh [04:39:26] morning prob [04:40:07] time to put on a cover of Glimpse of Us [04:40:14] yep, not urgent in the slightes [04:40:20] this song is so pretty [04:41:53] gonna do some last minute reviews for my exam tmr i guess [04:42:08] was SUPPOSED to be las friday [04:42:10] > i guess [04:42:12] oh i see [04:42:18] but the fire alarm had other plans [04:42:34] how funny, we had someone's roof burn down in voxelibre [04:42:52] arson [04:43:01] the sky committed arson [04:43:06] (lightning strike) [04:43:15] sounds like Zues yeah [04:43:51] Do you know Greek Mythos [05:02:10] im so confused, ive never had this issue before but it's not letting me change the main page on my wiki, it says I don't have permissioms but im a berocrat? [05:02:48] Are you sure you have the crat right? [05:03:02] maybe crat but not admin? [05:03:15] i have admin aswell [05:03:28] i've made a few wiki's before here but this is the first time i've had this issue lol [05:04:14] Yeah I have Bureaucrats, Interface administrators, Administrators [05:07:28] How do I put this to the sidebar by default for all visitors? [05:07:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315545333174112318/image.png?ex=6757cc91&is=67567b11&hm=3a314f9a1f3a8e44ebbd918e7699284c9d99b13e2efd7f843ff35e2fe6f63e8a& [05:09:03] it is open by default to all visiotrs [05:09:36] Hmm, I see it on the top right here by default [05:09:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315545869105365003/image.png?ex=6757cd10&is=67567b90&hm=a3dc72e429c3401e4768e5be853d07115e954fb7c1198b6e1c6e570fe99c75b5& [05:11:00] because you hid it [05:11:08] it is there if you click the hide button [05:11:30] Hmm, I'm opening incognito browser but visitors can't see it [05:18:03] Anyone know this issue? [05:18:32] is the "editprotected" permission checked for bureucrat [05:19:03] Uh I can check, but I just created the wiki and haven't touched anything lol [05:19:50] oh thats weird, now i can do stuff [05:19:58] You need to assign yourself as admin [05:20:05] i already was admin [05:20:12] it just auto fixed itself [05:20:15] Weird [05:20:19] :ThinkerMH: [05:20:25] [1/3] Two flavors of things that can happen: [05:20:25] [2/3] * Initial setup can sometimes be a bit delayed [05:20:25] [3/3] * Sometimes permissions aren't correctly granted on wiki creation [05:20:54] weird. well, the wiki was finally created earlier today (like 12 or so hours ago i think) so [05:21:00] couldn't have been a delay [05:21:10] so maybe it was just somethin weird [05:21:20] but anyways ty guys ❤️ [05:21:30] Yep. It may be tied to the emergency maintenace we had earlier today, which impacted wiki permissions [05:21:41] Glad things are working for you now, though! [05:21:42] ahhh, yeah that could have possibly caused it [05:21:48] thanks :smile: [09:08:58] is there a good way to scrape a wiki's fandom forum?? [09:09:07] im trying to archive the forum from my wiki [11:31:38] i think robloxapi extension is still broken [11:34:35] yeah probably [11:34:53] my brain is kinda mush right now, but i'll try to go through the phorge backlog ^^; [11:51:38] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12976 [11:51:59] enews made a task about robloxapi not working [12:08:40] kinda feeling embarrassing to ask but how can i customise infobox through css? [12:13:41] if youre using portable infobox, you can style them with classes such as .pi-title, .pi-image, .pi-data, .pi-data-label, .pi-horizontal-group-item [12:59:56] <_______________________________d> i have a slight issue with the math extension [13:00:04] <_______________________________d> [[mh:backrooms:TB:SAND]] [13:00:04] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/backrooms:TB:SAND [13:00:05] [13:01:59] <_______________________________d> dont know if there's something wrong with it or if i just messed up [13:04:07] <_______________________________d> i think i figured it out [13:07:50] <_______________________________d> nvm [13:37:14] Hi, there. Is it or is it not forbidden to make two requests to create a wiki at the same time? I.e. posting a wiki creation request when a previous one is already in progress? [13:38:42] Hi, if you're requesting two different wikis that's perfectly fine [13:39:07] The only thing that's frowned upon is making a duplicate request for the same wiki [13:39:40] Thank you very much for your reply. [13:42:55] <_______________________________d> did a major purge of junk on my wiki [13:43:06] <_______________________________d> took over an hour and i should've done this a long time ago [13:56:08] [1/2] how do i change this [13:56:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315678371245719584/image.png?ex=67584877&is=6756f6f7&hm=eb435eaa754e4a53bdc279965bfa1e913ee5b71345c9c5f5cc53919e80f693e7& [13:56:43] i dont care about the contents of the wiki because nothing important has been written yet [14:10:06] hypercryptical: file a request on phorge [14:11:25] [1/2] this? [14:11:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315682217896448000/image.png?ex=67584c0c&is=6756fa8c&hm=bdbd81226e1ff034d0e65c76dc2a52c2ff04178d5b2242d8805d23d675c2d6fd& [14:11:43] yep [14:11:52] okay thanks [14:12:00] not sure if that's the right form, but should work well enough [14:13:46] What does this error mean? i'm trying to create Navbox template and I used the MediaWiki's module code. [14:13:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315682810912313417/image.png?ex=67584c9a&is=6756fb1a&hm=e4ce9881e065b9acd02ec01ede4d9d6e75027e98bc66ad9c91ede56834a2b066& [14:13:54] I don't know programming so might need to ELI5 [14:15:40] theres no Module:Navbar [14:15:52] so I have to create a navbar too? [14:16:03] well yea [14:16:06] or you can import it [14:16:22] how do you import it from MediaWiki? [14:16:30] I feel like having to code everything from scratch is difficult [14:16:47] find a wiki which has a navbar or whatever youre looking for, go to Special:Export [14:17:17] You could do that to any template/module right? [14:17:17] then go to Special:Import on your wiki once you have the xml [14:17:21] yea [14:17:22] instead of just making it yourself? [14:17:27] yea [14:17:39] not sure what you mean by navbar [14:17:47] I'm trying to create a navbox [14:18:08] so I copied this code: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Navbox [14:19:16] [1/4] 1. go to Special:Export [14:19:16] [2/4] 2. insert Template:Navbox [14:19:16] [3/4] 3. check "Include templates" [14:19:16] [4/4] 4. click export or whatever button and an xml file should be downloaded [14:19:52] [1/4] 5. go to Special:Import on your wiki [14:19:52] [2/4] 6. insert the xml file [14:19:53] [3/4] 7. insert an interwiki prefix (e.g mediawiki) [14:19:53] [4/4] 8. click import [14:24:14] [1/2] Okay I tried that with navbox but it shows [14:24:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315685442590347316/image.png?ex=67584f0d&is=6756fd8d&hm=5d48c17f3657934f420132ea0664e8713df069ee58ac1f5393d328c50f3579d1& [14:24:24] I'm guessing you have to import the module too right? [14:26:49] <_changezi_, replying to nicks5503> Maybe try enabling the JsonConfig extension in ManageWiki? [14:26:50] Oh you have to add json config to personal wiki [14:28:10] Okay, I added that but it still gave me the same error [14:29:04] oh hey, i faced the same issue [14:29:33] this part is kinda stupid: you have to ask to configure JsonConfig to use wikimedia commons to fetch stuff [14:30:04] i have no idea why this module is fetching configuration from external wikis, but it is what it is [14:32:12] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12116 [14:53:10] [1/2] yeah it's enabled. Still not working 😦 [14:53:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315692724904525914/image.png?ex=675855d6&is=67570456&hm=516ff721c54e0794a39ac72f579efd1fbfd32f41edd26926f7db09f6abca1245& [15:32:45] Hey uhh a friend of mine created a wiki yesterday, but when I tried to edit it it neither allowed me to create me my css and js files nor to edit or create any page [15:55:15] hey, when importing an xml file, what should i write in interwiki prefix? [15:59:54] any [15:59:57] did your friend poked permissions? [16:03:09] [1/2] I don't think he did. Showing me those missing permissions even though I should be able to do that according to https://treeofliberty.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [16:03:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315710338569867375/image.png?ex=6758663d&is=675714bd&hm=d2c0cfcbe3b7ed8140c0e6ebb62a5e2d9c10e4b503f3d619f0fd15c9df607b94& [16:04:23] nvm I checked again and I can't find the permissions this time [16:04:49] well uhh not even bureaucrats have any permissions so it's a bug I think [16:07:39] do you have any admin permissions on it [16:08:26] oh wait [16:08:28] sorry nevermind [16:42:35] is there a way to automatically set editing only for administrators on all pages? [16:47:26] go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions, uncheck "edit" permission for everyone, check "edit" permission for admins [17:49:44] [1/2] For Navbox using the MediaWikia imported template, how do I put a dot between each item on the list? and it won't give me a clickable link with the title of the box. [17:49:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315737159931662366/image.png?ex=67587f38&is=67572db8&hm=da66dfa9415080269acc1da198f190390349c6e7fb1a043dea044fdc755bdaf2& [17:49:55] when I put each item on the list of a group, it shows a comma instead [18:16:52] Looks like this wiki's permissions didn't get correctly instantiated on creation. This has been re-run and should now be fixed. [18:27:39] Thanks! [18:33:19] pretty sure the dot is literally bullet point character, see additional symbols in Advanced, next to code highlight marker (enable it too for the sake of your eyes) [18:35:43] hmm, for some reason, when I put the bullet, it goes vertically, when I want it horizontally [18:35:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315748793710284835/image.png?ex=67588a0d&is=6757388d&hm=d312c3d9ad173b95efcd56950d6744d322f48ef4affe7988bd16d6296f9dcd6e& [18:37:36] that's not what I meant, sorry [18:37:44] it's special characters [18:38:01] bullet point symbol, not bullet list [18:38:11] ``•``? [18:38:22] • [18:39:26] found it. thanks [18:39:39] I thought by default navbox would use * as generating a bullet [18:44:01] navboxes are coded differently, like infoboxes, several ways [18:44:31] from what I saw the ones using bullet list is a CSS trick [18:44:43] <.hedwiga> [1/2] why in main page edit button along with other are on the bottom of the page? [18:44:44] <.hedwiga> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315750998660219040/image.png?ex=67588c1b&is=67573a9b&hm=a4d3819305436d4a47573d64df3d8301eb8ce10fcf8a757f95eebca21c87cab6& [18:45:27] citizen added this recently, it's probably so the main page is cleaner [18:45:49] yeah ok, I just won't engage w/ Citizen questions lol [18:45:50] <.hedwiga, replying to abaddriverlol> oh ok, this looks just weird to me [18:46:28] [1/2] don't think there's a way to disable it so i guess you just have to live with it [18:46:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315751436902076506/image.png?ex=67588c84&is=67573b04&hm=f16539b8e3ad7d1f84da73f06c02e7e3e096a766cc614cd9cc1c668716b29b54& [18:46:43] <.hedwiga> ok [18:46:55] or you could override it with custom css [18:47:16] <.hedwiga> maybe i would just leave it, because i don't know css [18:48:27] is there a way to see the miraheze wikis ranked by how big they are? [18:50:08] https://wikistats.wmcloud.org/display.php?t=mh [18:51:02] idk if it has all of them though [18:51:14] It should have all public [18:51:17] In theory [18:51:22] Probably [18:51:50] custom domain ones too? [18:53:31] Yup [18:53:34] it has Rosetta Code which uses a custom domain but the wiki list links to it through the miraheze subdomain so seems like it [18:56:41] is it possible to have a wiki on a custom domain if I own it(the domain)? [18:57:23] this is so cool thank you!! [19:05:01] np [19:07:42] [[Custom domains]] [19:07:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [19:07:43] [19:14:37] @plexish #verify to post links btw [19:18:29] ah, thanks [19:32:16] Does anyone know how to associate a word with a colour using a code? For example, I put ‘strawberry’ as the value, and the top of an infobox is coloured red, for example. Thanks in advance. [19:34:00] 👋 Heyy, I'm struggling a bit with properties in semantic mediawiki [19:34:11] [1/2] My "Damage" property seems to be rendering as a page link... [19:34:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315763447077666848/image.png?ex=675897b3&is=67574633&hm=ab0bf6117d3eb4b3c0ee11a9cfa665cad36797cad133c17a5911e02af06e23ae& [19:34:31] [1/2] but my property page is setting it as a number [19:34:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315763529982283816/image.png?ex=675897c7&is=67574647&hm=27b5c32fcf5cc0070bc2e220196bc20d51aa52ef44af7792db86fa31163426ad& [19:34:48] This could probably done with html I think? [19:34:50] Something like uh [19:35:45] `

Thing you want to change background of/div` [19:35:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bcolour [19:35:54] ignore wm-bot [19:36:07] That should grab the colour value and set it as the background property in css [19:36:09] Did you change the type of the property after you created it / after you assigned a value to it on the "Spear" page? [19:36:12] sometimes SMW takes a while to update the types [19:36:13] colour just has to be a valid css colour [19:36:21] I did [19:36:28] However, I waited like a day and refreshed multiple pages [19:36:57] Thanks for your reply. I'll keep looking, I think. [19:37:05] Alright 👍 [19:39:54] [1/2] purging the page fixes it [19:39:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315764883500826684/image.png?ex=67589909&is=67574789&hm=16b03f7efb388e04a8ab69db3931f3c4dc78bec94cc44916f026b6ad98766f1b& [19:39:59] I'm an idiot Has Type is supposed to be Has type [19:40:05] Oh no I just fixed it [19:40:07] thank you though!! [19:41:02] [1/2] sort of template I have [19:41:02] [2/2] [19:41:55] oh wow already near 40% [19:41:58] groovy [19:42:04] I added 60k words (25 pages) to my wiki latly [19:42:05] hey athria [19:42:14] 🙂 [19:44:38] recuiting volunteers via Discord as to allow for some flow of pages [19:44:56] I didn't understand everything but I'll look into it. Thanks for your time. [19:50:45] [1/2] What's going on [19:50:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315767613086892234/image.png?ex=67589b94&is=67574a14&hm=a83ba9f976666fd6af88a705c4b0607c88d5c1ec4953f918a36017901a5e5fdd& [19:52:29] Can we add a bluesky account so people don't need to have twitter accounts to see miraheze status? [19:53:44] there's some wariness about bsky tbh [19:54:38] I did made account for my wiki tho [20:00:08] Some files on my wiki aren't loading at all [20:00:40] it's back [20:00:43] ig [20:00:50] it's gone [20:01:18] [1/2] ok this is [20:01:19] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin?returnto=Special:RequestWiki unaccessible [20:01:39] for me too [20:01:49] [1/2] however this is accesible [20:01:49] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta [20:01:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315770437808160808/image.png?ex=67589e36&is=67574cb6&hm=ccb7ef840ab20ca5c33835dc1977f25fc2b74fbf303002ea72d3b8207a710be0& [20:06:01] "the server is currently unavailable" [20:06:22] [1/2] Been waiting for quite a while, refreshing every so often, and I still see this error. Is Miraheze having issues or am I just going insane? [20:06:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315771543745204254/wiaz.png?ex=67589f3d&is=67574dbd&hm=c3574cbf796ecd4d3e90a094651e817d64a1f5c746b59f1f6a07fbc603371186& [20:06:40] having issues [20:06:53] db181 appears to be down [20:06:53] Ah alright [20:06:58] @Technology Team seems like one of the db servers is acting up, see above [20:07:49] Oh also, just wondering since I've only recently made a wiki that got accepted: [20:08:25] Is there any way to "replicate" an already existing wiki's layout so that its easier for me to edit and change to whatever fits the theming of my own wiki? [20:08:46] Not like I can do anything right now [20:08:50] but when it's back I'll try [20:08:51] you're still using cloud18? [20:09:07] No idea how to change [20:09:13] Not my domain. Tech has been made aware, they're looking into it. [20:09:29] Not something on your end, no action needed [20:09:33] Ah [20:09:43] is it just a thing miraheze changes when they feel like it? [20:10:17] db isn't changed as far as I'm aware [20:10:32] unless it's an incident like db141 disaster [20:10:38] the what [20:10:40] So has miraheze abandoned the archive.org partnership altogether or are we gonna constantly have repeats of the db141 disaster? [20:10:48] ??? [20:11:02] nobody said that man [20:11:20] Databases are backed up both publicly and privately [20:12:27] [1/2] it happened in 2022, a portion of wikis was inaccessible due to disk failure [20:12:28] [2/2] nowadays things are much better [20:12:34] Okay [20:12:50] But nobody's answered my other question yet [20:12:55] It might sound a little silly [20:12:56] There seems to be an issue with the power supply to one of our servers [20:12:58] but I'm curious [20:13:00] We're looking [20:13:10] you can't change subject of the wiki w/o steward review [20:13:22] if you want to test thing use public test wiki [20:13:35] I don't want to change the subject [20:13:50] I want to try and replicate the layout of some pages in a wiki that already exists on miraheze [20:14:13] I want the subject to be the same, but I want to try and replicate the "look" of the pages of another wiki [20:14:25] ah well, just do it [20:14:31] How though? [20:14:37] We've just asked the data centre to take a look and advise us [20:14:49] i.e. https://utg.miraheze.org can this be replicated somehow? [20:14:53] Yeah. I was a victim of it and that just made me very afraid of future stuff happening. Ended up recreating a lot of pages and then they got merged back in and it was all a gigantic mess that you can see in the revision histories [20:15:05] wdym by look? layout is usually a skin of choice and lots of CSS tricks [20:15:23] don't you all have miraheze wiki on db161 as well? [20:15:40] see above, I've noticed that a bunch of wikis have different "layouts" in the button placements and such [20:15:44] So this isn't the simple question you might expect. [20:15:46] No [20:15:54] Wikis are split across multiple servers [20:16:00] So only some wikis are affected [20:16:02] uh oh [20:16:14] yeah I meant meta miraheze [20:16:16] Hello [20:16:18] The first thing is skins - these are the 'bones' of how a wiki is laid out and navigated, and deal with things like where a button is on the screen [20:16:18] yeah, this is modified Citizen skin [20:16:21] [1/2] It looks like some files are not displaying right now I guess there must be a central issue because somebody already said they had the similar issue [20:16:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315774054908690452/image.png?ex=6758a194&is=67575014&hm=4c0aea5d93339d20fdd1baef822a75747b342bbd74d06340b97665f38f8044b1& [20:16:45] I think that was my main problem I was looking at [20:16:59] A number of things are partially broken [20:17:09] Infact, does anyone here have a spreadsheet/image of each layout so I don't have to swap between each layout one by one by myself? [20:17:16] Or is there an easier option [20:17:22] [1/3] well, that's a lot of MediaWiki pages [20:17:22] [2/3] [20:17:22] [3/3] also the admin pop ups here often [20:18:00] first pick a sj=kin you like [20:18:04] meant to say skin, not layout, lol [20:18:39] [1/2] that wiki uses Citizen [20:18:40] [2/2] first you enable it in extensions, then change default skin in Additional settings > Styling [20:18:50] Extensions? [20:18:50] thing is [20:19:03] you have a wiki already? [20:19:07] Like extensions for the website itself or extensions for my browser? [20:19:11] Yes. [20:20:13] [1/2] look at Administration sidebar, there are several links [20:20:14] [2/2] for this task you go to Extensions and Aditional settings [20:20:14] What's on this page by the way? What are all these links for [20:20:21] listen [20:20:23] Okay [20:21:16] [1/2] if it's your first time admining a wiki don't look too much a very fancy ones, you most likely will confuse yourself, I saw that many times [20:21:16] [2/2] learn stuff step by step [20:21:29] Okay will do. [20:21:31] But for now [20:21:40] I want something that isn't just wikipedia. [20:21:47] Maybe something more slick but yknow [20:21:54] not too advanced since I just started I suppose [20:22:23] And is there a way to display skins before you put them into effect? [20:22:36] Like I know there's a sandbox for wikis but can that be the same for skins too [20:22:48] yes, put e.g. `?useskin=citizen` to the end of the url of your wiki (if citizen is enabled) [20:22:55] I'd say ~80% of things related to the look boils down to CSS [20:23:06] What does CSS stand for lol [20:23:33] roughly speaking, coding that defines the look of web sites [20:23:43] you could just use citizen and not have any styling at first [20:23:48] then it would look similar to this https://starcitizen.tools/ [20:23:55] Maybe I'll do that then [20:23:59] that will require enabling it first [20:24:03] yep [20:24:14] How do I enable skins [20:24:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315776070921883699/image.png?ex=6758a375&is=675751f5&hm=6035ece1831b40c42e561d7d19f8af108744c93cbfc1a40fec0cd93d75d5b101& [20:24:24] at Special:ManageWiki/extensions [20:24:32] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1315774638357221376 [20:24:35] Cascading style sheets, it's a type of code that says whether a text box has a red or blue or yellow background, for example. [20:24:52] Oh so it's just the fundamentals of items on a webpage? [20:24:53] well they don't necessarily need to update the default skin if they want to test it first [20:25:36] sort of, it's what decides how items on the page look [20:25:56] Site is back now [20:25:56] alright [20:25:56] the extensions admin menu - titles of extensions are links to documention pages of these extensions, they have screenshots too [20:26:37] In this context, think of extensions like little apps you can install on your wiki - much like a phone app, they let your wiki do new things it can't normally do straight out of the box, or that would be very hard to do [20:26:56] Skins are a type of extension that change the overall layout of your wiki and how end users interact with it [20:27:30] That helps explain things, thanks! [20:27:36] Okay [20:28:03] As you'll probably see scrolling through there, there are a LOT of extensions that do a lot of things. No need to explore every single thing at once, though. [20:28:32] I wasn't planning to lol, quite overwhelming to be honesrt [20:28:35] Running a wiki has a big initial learning curve, but each thing you figure out makes the next that much easier. Don't hesitate to reach out to the community with questions [20:29:00] thanks [20:29:04] And for complicated stuff, you might get more mileage out of a thread in the #support channel, as you can see general chat moves fast [20:29:20] Well currently it's only a couple people talking [20:29:23] but I see what you mean [20:29:56] How can I make fancy boxes that show the start of an article when I hover over a link? [20:30:12] These are created by Extension:Popups I think [20:30:21] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Popups [20:30:49] also known as Previews [20:30:51] Is there a way to experiment with extensions BEFORE you implement them? [20:31:01] publictestwiki.com [20:31:06] Looking through the list and there's quite a bunch i wanna try [20:31:10] alright [20:34:01] So it's sort of like that one Discord extension named Vencord? [20:34:18] There's multiple addons you can select, each one alters the app in its own way, etc. [20:34:26] Not the first analogy I’d use but yes [20:34:38] Yeah my bad [20:34:50] Bope [20:34:53] Nope [20:34:55] huh [20:35:03] We're not out of the woods yet [20:35:12] who on earth is called addon 💀 [20:35:21] well its functional for me at least [20:35:28] Ye [20:35:33] But we're at risk [20:35:45] We don't have power to both PSUs [20:35:47] Oui [20:35:53] What are those again [20:36:02] thats what i was gonna ask lol [20:36:03] Power Supply Units [20:36:12] So [20:36:13] Basically every server has redundant power [20:36:18] The power supplies [20:36:20] So if one fails, we run off the other [20:36:28] At the moment, only one of them is active [20:36:28] Ain’t being supplied power [20:36:35] So if one fails, we have no power [20:36:39] Ye [20:36:39] So one PSU is carrying the cluster [20:36:50] Are the miraheze servers located close to where you are? Or are they hosted by some other company [20:37:00] How much can one output, and how much does the cluster draw [20:37:10] We host in a datacenter in Salt Lake City [20:37:17] ok [20:37:37] It's a per server thing [20:37:52] FibreState Salt Lake City [20:38:00] Every server has 2 power supplies [20:38:01] So only one cloud is running on reduced power? [20:38:05] Yup [20:38:22] Which, 15? [20:38:24] What caused the outage was that server lost power all together for a short while [20:38:27] 18 [20:38:28] They all seem to be complaining [20:38:47] Puppet is grumpy [20:38:49] For some reason [20:38:58] Global and meta are on 17? [20:39:20] No idea of the top of my head [20:39:23] Not 18 [20:40:04] 15 has a psu2 error [20:40:20] Great [20:40:21] I added the citizen skin extension and nothing changed [20:40:28] So that’s two of them on half? [20:40:30] I saved it and stuff and Refreshed and nothing's different [20:40:41] Yup [20:40:51] Could be worse [20:40:56] I also tried adding a subtitle extension just to try it out but it isnt working either despite me using the "template" attached to the extension [20:41:00] So if we loose psu1 then a lot will die [20:41:10] It's perfectly safe but a lot riskier [20:41:16] So just enabling the skin is the first step. You can now test the skin by going to preferences >> appearance and selecting your default skin [20:41:28] is psu1 per server(ie psu151) [20:41:33] No [20:41:49] each server has 2 plugs [20:41:51] Defaults don't change automatically once a skin is enabled. once you've got one you're happy with, you can then change the global default to what you'd like [20:42:05] where is this? [20:42:08] So instead of like a computer where you plug one cable in, we plug in 2 [20:42:20] Off 2 different input sources [20:42:31] [1/2] Special:Preferences on your wiki [20:42:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315780638959210587/image.png?ex=6758a7b6&is=67575636&hm=c687cca68c8cc65c064beff9d8f6d1c1dfbde1aba309bf750fffc8ccf3f53eb7& [20:42:34] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315780653928939650/image.png?ex=6758a7b9&is=67575639&hm=f0e86dda2218aecb1a5f874ede5ecaf9350d69973c4f66690e507b1527ef0208& [20:42:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315780654226604103/image.png?ex=6758a7b9&is=67575639&hm=d671a5cfdaa74928771981330374befd7c1eebaf75c558228c5d907e677ff9f6& [20:42:36] How long can a server run on half [20:42:43] oh [20:42:52] That changes the skin for just you [20:43:34] Once you've got one you like, it can be set globally under "Manage this wiki's additional Settings" > Styling [20:44:19] Then the next step is customizing the appearance of the skin with CSS, but one thing at a time [20:44:20] Forever [20:44:26] It's fully redundant [20:46:01] I've set my own appearance to citizen, as well as the site itself [20:46:22] Also [20:46:28] This is kinda more important [20:46:50] If I want to add a category to my wiki, and then make subcategories and whatnot, do I name the page like this? [20:47:18] ".org/MainCategory:SubCategory:ActualPage"? [20:47:33] Like if I wanted to do [20:47:51] ".org/Characters:Enemies:Enemy" [20:48:16] Would that work or do I need to word it differently [20:49:53] Will let others jump in on this, as I need to refocus attention to work stuff. [20:50:28] Ah okay sorry if I;m overwhelming you [20:52:35] [1/3] hmm, having some difficulty enabling this, I turned on both requisites and saved but the box is still gray: [20:52:35] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315783174437081088/image.png?ex=6758aa12&is=67575892&hm=12d3ebdd19fac01192127c6daccd5c27a239a9da18d6dca1e9fd3c0a470532e9& [20:52:36] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315783174671958076/image.png?ex=6758aa12&is=67575892&hm=4e7bbc14ee8e574c3260c3f85dde9b8c089425461071f1b8ed844a91c73dc21f& [20:52:36] from what I've seen in wmf wikis in the past you'd probably call it `Category:Zombies` and the parent category `Category:Enemies` [20:52:56] Did you refresh? [20:53:00] I had to do that [20:53:23] oh yup, that worked [20:53:24] thanks [20:56:39] [1/2] having that problem though [20:56:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315784198832783453/Captura_de_tela_de_2024-12-09_17-56-07.png?ex=6758ab07&is=67575987&hm=8f94ece4f6c0761ebfcbf4241add6943a197bdd84a271843ae0643a330516835& [20:56:57] linux ftw btw [20:59:52] How do some wikis remove the "X/wiki/Y" from their URLs? [20:59:57] https://utg.miraheze.org/Crown_(role) this for example [21:00:19] instead of https://utg.miraheze.org/wiki/Crown_(role) [21:01:01] [1/2] not 100% sure but I think it might be this setting [21:01:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315785293625823294/image.png?ex=6758ac0c&is=67575a8c&hm=54edb5fe6dd96bd009567476304cd8a30e8c27fd90fafd59b18fcbdb21d2fb48& [21:01:11] where's that? [21:01:49] Special:ManageWiki [21:02:24] restricted though @gameyroblox [21:16:19] oh [21:19:07] restricted settings means asking on [[SR/RS]] [21:19:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RS [21:19:08] [21:19:12] ah fuck [21:19:48] [[SR/RC]] [21:19:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC [21:19:49] [21:19:54] [1/2] I've enabled now, but still not getting popups after hard refresh. Is there some delay due to job queue, or additional settings? [21:19:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315790048880492544/image.png?ex=6758b079&is=67575ef9&hm=7e7e8e7ce89d98bec395c850426e9b013a3db4ee4e16e2ba90c7451201b111c1& [21:20:17] this extension is an enigma, it takes some strange setting and a bit of time to work [21:20:19] probably additional settings and preferences [21:20:38] got it working in 1min just with prefs [21:20:46] hmm, is it known what that setting is? [21:22:09] show by default on additional and appearence --> popups on prefs [21:22:37] oh yup [21:22:38] got it [21:32:03] [1/2] I'm using Citizen skin. Just wondering how I can replace the normal large text (red arrow) at the bottom of each page with the logo? (green arrow) [21:32:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315793107543003228/sqa.png?ex=6758b353&is=675761d3&hm=71b56cad458b35a5741197c53da593efff1280ce0c24d01dab67ccb61179b2e6& [21:32:55] I already have the logo uploaded as a file on the wiki's Upload page. [21:33:25] I'm just wondering how do I swap out the large "Plongo" text in bold with the blue png? [21:33:54] [1/2] kinda like this is what I'm going for [21:33:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315793574893195284/linza.png?ex=6758b3c2&is=67576242&hm=6678ec6eaf6ce190a6ccddd0fdbb5a1795a1c878ffa920661ffa969942c1bded& [21:45:34] Is there any template for making a Featured Article without linking to articles that are too small? [21:46:09] [1/2] Erm... What's this OpenAI usage? [21:46:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315796657627074631/image.png?ex=6758b6a1&is=67576521&hm=6f25020c30daf0c0b9d489a22900806dd103b972488c4543279d0df5e9de7944& [21:46:43] featured articles are usually picked and provided manually? [21:47:01] an integration for CW made by a few members of the tech team [21:47:18] for wiki requests [21:47:30] oh [21:47:35] But how? Added in a module? A category? [21:49:03] [1/2] I looked at Wikipedia, like maybe 2 years ago, and they just have a bunch of templates, and manually replace content of template used on main page w/ an image and short text of featured article [21:49:03] [2/2] and I replicated that on my wiki [21:49:05] Can someone help out? [21:56:44] [1/10] How we did it is with the DynamicPageList3 extension, you can randomly choose a page in a category and transclude specific part of the page. We made a category (we called ours "completed pages") for what pages should be included to draw from and also specified anything that it should draw from. So this is what the code looks like: ``` [21:56:45] [2/10] {{#dpl: [21:56:45] [3/10] |category=Completed pages [21:56:45] [4/10] |notcategory=Help [21:56:45] [5/10] |notuses=Template:OnThisDay [21:56:46] [6/10] |randomcount=1 [21:56:46] [7/10] |mode=inline [21:56:46] [8/10] |include=%1 [21:56:47] [9/10] }}``` [21:56:47] [10/10] The thing that took the most time was making sure that the specified section (in our case, the first section) was written in a way that worked as a "featured article." We basically wrote page summaries as the introduction of the page [21:56:54] Replacing the text with image is supposed to be wordmark [21:57:05] On Citizen skin [21:58:10] Search for the wordmark in Special:ManageWiki/settings [22:29:03] I hate to necro this, but anyone know when the "Interactive Maps" feature will have a visual editor functional? [23:05:14] Not really something in our control, that's a question for the extension developer [23:05:30] [1/2] I'm assuming you're talking about this one: [23:05:31] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DataMaps [23:29:12] is there any sort of external audio platform that miraheze can display embeds for? besides YouTube? Got some large MP3s I'd like to use [23:30:00] unsure what platforms would be permissable [23:39:02] External audio unfortunately has limited support. [23:39:19] There's the EmbedSpotify extension as well as the YouTube extension we mantain a fork for. [23:39:28] The latter one can also play audio and video from archive.org [23:42:12] <.guardianx., replying to donzzzilla> I ended up makign a JS butcher job while on the MAP: Namespace [23:45:17] you need to set a wordmark [23:45:36] <.guardianx.> Placed on: MediaWiki:DataMaps.js [23:46:14] <.guardianx.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1315826877805498418/MediaWiki_-_DataMaps.txt?ex=6758d2c6&is=67578146&hm=5c395f958359c9ad922a481d4e15b0c11360c80a24c2d88eeff89e6fbed3be29& [23:46:32] how [23:47:11] how do i set a wordmark which allows me to call out the logo to replace the Plongo text [23:49:21] Where are you using this. Would love to see it in action.