[02:05:02] I guess we can make some totals from this year's chatlog and look for some patterns. Actual statistics would have to be posted on the 1st. [02:59:48] We are at over 80% of our fundraising goal [04:17:30] 🎉 [06:02:15] Would anyone here be able to explain in layman's terms how to make a dismissable site notice? I'm new relatively to wiki editing and can't make heads or tails of the page that supposedly explains it. [06:10:09] MediaWiki:Sitenotice [06:10:24] just add some text and itll appear at the top of the wiki [06:10:28] and people can dismiss it [06:10:45] (It's automatically dismissable by default, so no special code needed) [06:12:00] [1/2] Assuming this is a NSFW wiki that requires a sitenotice, something with VERY basic formatting could work like this: [06:12:01] [2/2] ```

Please be advised, this wiki contains content that may not be appropriate for users under the age of 18/h3/div``` [06:12:50] The pile of stuff in that first
tag is CSS, which if you're not familiar with it is a formatting language that tells the browser what things on the page should look like. [06:13:36] To add this sitenotice, you'd go to the page MediaWiki:Sitenotice on your wiki, click 'edit source', then paste the code I provided above [06:13:50] once saved, it'll start showing up at the top of every page on the wiki when folks first visit. [06:25:46] [1/2] Thanks that worked. [06:25:46] [2/2] I have a new problem though - I'm having trouble getting infoboxes to work. I tried copying the format i saw on other wikis but it still isnt showing up properly. Could someone take a look and see if they can figure out what I did wrong?: https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila [06:26:06] That's also likely a CSS problem. [06:26:47] The wiki you borrowed from probably has this formatting code on their MediaWiki:Common.css page or the page specific to the 'skin' (site layout) they're using [06:27:26] How do I figure ou what the formatting code on my wiki is? [06:27:31] You'll need to borrow that and put it on the same page on your wiki to solve it. [06:27:56] If you're not familiar with CSS more broadly, https://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp is a great free resource if you want to understand what this formatting code is actually doing later on [06:28:26] Oh, wait, you're having problems with infoboxes even working, full stop [06:29:06] Ive never made an infobox before, I only have edited pre-existing ones. [06:29:23] On other wikis, that is. [06:29:47] [1/2] and infobox is a template which means it has to exist first [06:29:47] [2/2] [[Infoboxes]] [06:29:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [06:29:48] [06:29:51] Got it, so that's a bigger discussion that also requires give you some baseline knowledge on templates and modules. [06:30:05] I'd recommend reading that primer canada just linked [06:30:47] I unfortunately need to call it a night, but I trust folks in chat can get you where you need to go [06:31:45] [1/14] a template is just text you store on another page that you can fill in values for [06:31:46] [2/14] so if Template:Something has this text: [06:31:46] [3/14] ``` [06:31:46] [4/14] Name: {{{name}}} [06:31:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bname [06:31:47] [5/14] ``` [06:31:47] [6/14] and then you use it on a page like this [06:31:47] [7/14] ``` [06:31:48] [8/14] {{Something [06:31:48] [9/14] |name=John}} [06:31:48] [10/14] ``` [06:31:48] [11/14] and then it looks like [06:31:49] [12/14] ``` [06:31:49] [13/14] Name: John``` [06:31:50] [14/14] an infobox is just this concept but looks fancier [06:34:23] Do wikis on miraheze come with pre-existing infobox templates or do i have to like, design one, or something? [06:34:34] portable infobox is the closest [06:34:59] but https://dev.miraheze.org has some custom ones that dont make you import wikipedia dependencies [06:35:40] you could also totally import the one youre used to using on other wikis [06:35:48] [1/4] extremely short version: [06:35:48] [2/4] * Templates are special pages with reusable logic that allow you to quickly do the same thing on multiple pages. [06:35:48] [3/4] * PortableInfobox (an extension enabled by default on your wiki) is definitely the closest to how fandom does it [06:35:49] [4/4] * You'll still need to set up the template with the infobox's logic, e.g. Template:Infobox to make the code on the Mila page work as intended. [06:36:27] [1/2] Since our extension works just like fandom, the help docs linked here are pretty helpful: [06:36:28] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1048292890050318427 [06:37:47] shoutout to the time i cried trying to figure out why my own custom infobox keeps breaking [06:41:02] Could someone maybe explain what I wpould have to type to make what i have written down here work: https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila?action=edit [06:41:45] Yeah. Big word of wisdom from what verdessence just pointed out: Wiki administration has a high initial learning curve, so don't try to take on too much at once - pick a small thing to work on and each thing gets easier [06:42:03] you didnt make a template with the name yet [06:42:26] https://portability.fandom.com/wiki/Portable_Infoboxes#Basics is where you'd want to start. [06:43:32] [1/12] Create a page named Template:Infobox on your wiki, and create sections for each of the things you listed, following the format under the basics section that looks like: [06:43:32] [2/12] ``` [06:43:33] [3/12] [06:43:33] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [4/12] <image source="image"> [06:43:33] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [5/12] <caption source="imagecaption" /> [06:43:34] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [6/12] /image [06:43:34] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [7/12] <data source="position" /> [06:43:34] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [8/12] <data source="age" /> [06:43:35] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [9/12] <data source="status" /> [06:43:35] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [10/12] <data source="height" /> [06:43:35] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [11/12] <data source="weight" /> [06:43:36] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> [12/12] /infobox``` [06:44:12] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> thats assuming you turned on the extension in [[Special:ManageWiki/extensions]] [06:44:12] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions [06:44:13] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions> [06:44:23] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> It should be enabled by default now [06:45:04] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham> Weird, it wasn't enabled, just did that on your behalf as it should be a default-enable now [06:51:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [1/9] you are missing a page called `Template:Infobox`, that's what folks are trying to explain [06:51:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [2/9] but just "infobox" is not what you are looking for, you need specific infobox for a character in this case [06:51:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [3/9] template is a type of page, imagine it being a card w/ questions and empty fields for data; when you use template on normal page you basically fill up these fields [06:51:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [4/9] we have a character template on dev wiki you can use [06:51:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [5/9] <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PI_character> [06:51:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [6/9] you'll need to enable extensions PortableInfobox and TemplateData for them to work [06:51:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [7/9] you can either copy paste the code of that template to `Template:Character` page on your wiki, or import it - explanation here: [06:51:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [8/9] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes#Taking_infobox_from_another_place> [06:51:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> [9/9] once you actually have the template we can do the next step [06:59:21] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> [1/5] I made the page template infobox and tried to follow the instructions but its not quite working: [06:59:21] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> [2/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox?action=edit [06:59:21] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> [3/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [06:59:22] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> [4/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila?action=edit [06:59:22] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> [5/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila [07:01:05] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> try recreating it in [[Special:InfoboxBuilder]]; rule of thumb when making infoboxes you should add a suffix to what it's mainly serving (i.e Infobox disease, Infobox football game) [07:01:05] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:InfoboxBuilder [07:01:06] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:InfoboxBuilder?action=edit&redlink=1> [07:05:50] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> I tried copying this template: https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PI_character [07:05:58] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> But its not working. [07:06:33] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [1/5] Could someone look and figure out what the issue is?: I made the page template infobox and tried to follow the instructions but its not quite working: [07:06:33] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [2/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox?action=edit [07:06:34] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [3/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [07:06:34] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [4/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila?action=edit [07:06:34] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [5/5] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila [07:07:21] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> I feel like I am probably missing a step or misunderstanding something. [07:08:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> an advise, post links w/ <...> to disable link previews [07:08:43] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Is it possible to make an interactive UI/table on Miraheze? So like an index page where users can have a button to click on and flip through the list of pages like a book/leaflet [07:08:44] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm on phone and won't check quickly [07:08:57] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> [1/2] you had this: [07:08:57] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> [2/2] <data source="age" /> [07:09:07] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> you should enclose it with <data source="age">/data instead [07:09:27] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> oh wait it does the same thing [07:09:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Verdessence, can you please check if PI extension is enabled, perhaps small edit kick is needed to templates [07:10:00] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> it works, he called the wrong template [07:10:14] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> specifically in Mila, he caleld PI Character, not Infobox [07:10:18] <MirahezeRelay> <canyada> on the Mila page, ur looking for "Template:PI character", so it goes to find that page, but it doesnt exist, because all ur stuff is on Template:Infobox [07:12:14] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> just copy whats inside {{dev:PI character}} excluding noinclude, or try out [[Special:Import]] and remove the noinclude, because documentation importing will take you a bit of a detour [07:12:14] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:Template:PI_character https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Import [07:12:15] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Import> [07:12:17] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PI_character> [07:12:17] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] Not the correct result? Use `!wiki !dev page PI character` for a direct link or `!wiki !dev search PI character` for a list of all hits. [07:12:25] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> bad bot [07:12:32] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> I tied making a page called PI character, but Im getting a message saying "template loop detected: https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PI_character [07:13:01] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> you're calling it inside the template hence the loop [07:13:21] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> put the template call in <noinclude> and that'll be it [07:13:41] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> I dont know what that means. Could someone please explain this in laymans terms? [07:14:44] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> template:pi_character has \{{PI_character\}} in it, as mediawiki renders it, it checks template:pi_character for its contents and sees pi_character template being called inside it, it checks inside it and so on and so-forth [07:14:44] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PI_character%5c [07:15:44] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to verdessence> I still dont understand. i know jack shit about coding. [07:15:51] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> so basically [07:15:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> please, slowly [07:16:20] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> although I tried to explain as simple as I could [07:16:28] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> that code you put in the infobox is the code used to make the infobox appear on the page, not the code that tells the infobox how to display itself [07:17:23] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> imagine you got a book A that tells you that book B has instructions for a specific page, but book B tells you that book A has instructions for it for a specific page, so you go back and you're on a loop [07:17:43] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Could someone type up here what I need to put in both the template and the character page then. I am being given too many links and cannot keep them all straight. [07:17:44] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> if the infobox has that code in it, it will have a copy of itself in it which will have a copy of itself in it and so on, so the wiki stops loading the page and puts up that warning to prevent it from loading forever and maybe crashing the wiki [07:18:14] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Verdessence, please let Nebula [07:18:21] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> in the template all you need is something like what you had in the first revision of Template:Infobox [07:18:22] <MirahezeRelay> <verdessence> okay! [07:18:26] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> there's indeed too much at once [07:18:39] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> in the page, all you need is something like what you have in Template:PI character [07:19:10] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to groupnebula563_0765> I still dont undetstand what I am doing wrong. [07:19:29] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> there’s also an infobox maker at https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:InfoboxBuilder [07:19:43] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> so it might prove more useful to use that [07:20:03] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> what part exactly are you confused about? [07:20:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> just rename (move) template that has correct code and put that template's name instead of "infobox" on Mila page [07:20:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you need a character infobox on a character page [07:21:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> just "infobox" means a base for several things [07:21:04] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [1/3] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila?action=edit [07:21:04] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [2/3] https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox?action=edit [07:21:04] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [3/3] Could someone just tellme what I need to djust on these two pages. [07:21:14] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> well I believe their issue (from a quick peek at least) is their infobox is generating a template loop [07:21:23] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> The preview is not correct click on them. [07:21:37] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> first off, revert the second one to the first revision [07:21:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to ouchmaster5000> please put links inside <...> [07:22:10] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to groupnebula563_0765> What do you mean by "first revision"? [07:22:19] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> the first version of the page [07:22:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] every edit - revision, version of a page is shown on page history [07:22:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] old versions obviously differ from current [07:22:52] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to groupnebula563_0765> I still do not know what you mean??? [07:23:22] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> if you click that “view history” button, click on the one at the very bottom of the list. then, click edit and then save [07:24:45] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] the list should look like this, click on the date on the first one [07:24:45] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321740471957061704/IMG_6248.png?ex=676e563d&is=676d04bd&hm=c1c96b33428c49fadbb940841e1b0b3520d244e89cda61c9db830b2262fcda16& [07:25:49] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to groupnebula563_0765> I tried... https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila [07:26:28] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> oh no, you wanna do it on template:infobox [07:26:29] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> I dont think i understood what you were asking. [07:26:54] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> okay let’s do this step by step [07:27:05] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> open the template:infobox page [07:27:16] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> do you see a button/link that says “view history?” [07:27:32] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Yeah. [07:27:42] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> okay, click on that [07:27:46] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> now what do you see? [07:28:18] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Im assuming you want me to click on the first revision? [07:28:21] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] do you see this list? [07:28:22] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321741379382022145/IMG_6248.png?ex=676e5715&is=676d0595&hm=16d3e14a7e2c328586223b340a170747531ee680aebd0b9533369f7cb3ede477& [07:28:42] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Yeah. [07:28:49] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> if you do, click on the date on the very bottom, the one that says 06:54 [07:29:00] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Alright i did that. [07:29:01] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> that should take you to a different page [07:29:11] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> now on that page, do you see an edit button? [07:29:37] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Yeah, should i click it? [07:29:54] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> click that, and then without changing the page at all, save the edit [07:30:21] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> So i click "save changes" at the bottom? [07:30:35] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> yep [07:30:57] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Alright, now what? [07:31:38] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> I saved the changes. [07:34:26] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Mila So that seemed to work, the only problem is Im not seeing what the actual info represents on the image box. [07:34:31] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> alright [07:35:09] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Is there a way to make it so the infobox says "Age: 24" instead of just "24", for example? [07:35:25] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> yep [07:35:37] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> How do I do that? [07:35:51] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> just change the label of the age [07:36:58] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> ??? [07:37:45] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [1/5] ``` [07:37:46] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [2/5] <data source="age"> [07:37:46] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [3/5] <label>Age/label [07:37:46] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [4/5] /data [07:37:47] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [5/5] ``` [07:39:54] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> https://femdomuniversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox?action=edit I tried taht but now its aying "Theirs a problem parsing the image box. [07:41:00] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> I probably put it in the wrong spot? [07:41:18] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Or misunderstood what you were telling me to do. [07:42:13] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> @groupnebula563_0765 [07:42:52] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> ah [07:43:10] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [1/2] remove this slash [07:43:10] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321745105706815569/image0.jpg?ex=676e5a8e&is=676d090e&hm=3cdf17ecf3ffc58a8a31863aac9ef089eed55adb87ba1da65e3ab10078a55736& [07:43:30] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [1/12] you put [07:43:30] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [2/12] ``` [07:43:30] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [3/12] <data source="age" /> <— [07:43:31] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [4/12] <label>Age/label [07:43:31] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [5/12] /data [07:43:31] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [6/12] ``` [07:43:31] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [7/12] you need [07:43:32] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [8/12] ``` [07:43:32] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [9/12] <data source="age"> <— [07:43:32] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [10/12] <label>Age/label [07:43:33] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [11/12] /data [07:43:33] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> [12/12] ``` [07:44:01] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> Thank you!!! That worked. [07:44:03] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> The `<—` bit is just pointing to make it easier to see, don’t include it in your code [07:44:13] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> no problem! :) [07:50:43] <MirahezeRelay> <quesquestion> Is there a way to set a different main page for mobile? [07:53:22] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> no, but alternatively you can make it look differently with @media selectors [07:55:04] <MirahezeRelay> <quesquestion> What that? [07:59:27] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to quesquestion> CSS trick [08:02:53] <MirahezeRelay> <quesquestion> Is there any examples of how to use it [08:06:19] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to quesquestion> I believe you could use the mobileonly and nomobile parser hooks [08:06:34] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> not sure if that’s totally what you want but you could look into it [08:12:56] <MirahezeRelay> <quesquestion, replying to groupnebula563_0765> I believe that could work as the only thing really wrong with mobile is a couple templates and images being too big [08:42:42] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [1/2] Not sure why, but for some reason the image box is showing up AFTER the first paragraph when I'm on mobile: [08:42:43] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321760089283235883/Screenshot_20241226-004033.png?ex=676e6882&is=676d1702&hm=b0f19512cfc35ed3794e2675b81420ffa8687e0323042d6759b7b505dbec13cc& [08:44:08] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765, replying to ouchmaster5000> that’s just how the mobile view works [08:44:45] <MirahezeRelay> <groupnebula563_0765> you might want to have a short introductory sentence to start, and then launch into the rest of the article [08:48:23] <MirahezeRelay> <ouchmaster5000, replying to groupnebula563_0765> thanks, but I figured out I could fix it by adding ==Biography== to the beginning and making it its own section [08:59:46] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller, replying to etherealtraveller> Bumping this question [09:15:24] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> tabber or tabs i guess :shrug: [09:20:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to etherealtraveller> you talk about tabber functionality or making it pretty? [09:21:43] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Both, as my wiki currently just got past 100+ entries in the main index page, which is becoming a hassle to scroll down [09:22:10] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> So I was thinking of making it like a book with 4-5 pages for example where they'd be 20 entries per 1 page if that makes sense [09:24:26] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I would suggest my fake tabber (or Lua thingy that inspired it) for starters, but it's like loading new page every time [09:24:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm sure book look is achievable [09:25:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> w/ CSS and stuff [09:25:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> JS might be involved [09:47:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> bootleg tabber w/o page reloading gonna be definitely JS [09:53:30] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [1/2] how do i change the x logo to twitter (userprofilev2 extension) [09:53:31] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321777906518724693/image0.jpg?ex=676e791a&is=676d279a&hm=00867ec2c5f93dd9f7c0655af767928966c5248452ebdff492c413f466e719a5& [10:41:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> My requested pages are still not being updated [10:41:59] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> My wanted pages are still not being updated [10:57:46] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> they update once a week iirc [11:07:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> isn't kinda illegal to use not approved logos? [11:07:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> in this case old twitter birdy [11:08:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> companies have like, a bunch of logos for press and stuff [11:08:45] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> havent they fully dumped the bird [11:09:46] <MirahezeRelay> <canyada> i would like to see elon chase down petty cases like that [11:24:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to snowstacked> I mean they did, exactly xd [11:25:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you are asking about changing x to bird? [11:26:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> off topic but birdy was perfect and iconic [11:26:31] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> yep [12:15:42] <MirahezeRelay> <calbe040> Merry Christmas everyone 🎄 [12:49:37] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [1/2] do i need to phorge to enable this? got some templates i want to appear differently for different languages [12:49:37] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321822225967480882/image0.jpg?ex=676ea260&is=676d50e0&hm=2ff4af46a4bd3b3ba3d99c10a1d199e75e372b1ded6e4d5729db4f64fc3167be& [12:51:20] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Check manage wiki [12:52:14] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321822884393648228/image0.jpg?ex=676ea2fd&is=676d517d&hm=1318eeb83d73170807e970dffdc3175cc7de0e1bcca42b5a0a362322a39b2273& [12:58:06] <MirahezeRelay> <keiya> Okay this is kinda ridiculous but... I'm kinda paralyzed when trying to figure out what to do with the main page on the Svetaverse Wiki, does anyone have, like. Advice. Other than "Just try something you can always change it later" anyway? [12:59:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to keiya> So not motivation, just what to do! [13:00:27] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> What’s the wiki about? A show, game? [13:00:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to snowstacked> Remove wg [13:01:29] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321825213154857001/image0.jpg?ex=676ea529&is=676d53a9&hm=d150743692c75862178544de814b2caf48249cb62213277075f8cad710ce2f9e& [13:01:57] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Probably not added then [13:02:10] <MirahezeRelay> <keiya> [1/2] yeah, something like that ._. it just. feels too big. [13:02:10] <MirahezeRelay> <keiya> [2/2] and it's for books by an author I like (with a focus on the setting many of them share, just because that's the most useful focus) [13:04:07] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to keiya> Maybe go and open to a random book and page, read through like your not the wiki person, and note things you’d like to learn more about, collect the information you can find and make an article [13:04:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> And for things that should be their own pages, link to them, even if they don’t exist [13:04:34] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Use the red links as a guide for what to work on [13:05:28] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> Who to bother if I want the cargo extension enabled [13:06:29] <MirahezeRelay> <keiya> Nod... that makes sense. [13:06:54] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to lole5309> [[SR/RC]] [13:06:54] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC [13:06:54] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC> [13:07:20] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> The bots love that one [13:07:21] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> Thanks [13:29:22] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> [1/4] hello. I don't know if this bug is reported: [13:29:23] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> [2/4] https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Archivo:Ciudad_Fractal_por_Jakeukalane.png [13:29:23] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> [3/4] The description doesn't appear, while there is one in the original: [13:29:23] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> [4/4] https://intercriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Archivo:Ciudad_Fractal_por_Jakeukalane.png [13:31:00] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> happens in many [13:50:57] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to snowstacked> each three days [13:51:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> while in this is shown correctly: https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Archivo:Errores_Fractales_por_Jakeukalane.png [13:51:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> And it's been a week [15:12:13] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [1/2] hypothetically is there a way to add legacy citizen like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/0/07/20221121235712%21Screenshot-skin-citizen.png [15:12:13] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> [2/2] theres a section for the last design [here](https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-skins-Citizen/blob/main/README.md) [15:51:52] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked, replying to pixldev> do i have to phorge [16:00:37] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Sure ig [16:09:54] <MirahezeRelay> <yonic_soseki> [1/2] I thought Cargo was comparatively more performant than SMW? [16:09:54] <MirahezeRelay> <yonic_soseki> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1321872629304528896/image.png?ex=676ed152&is=676d7fd2&hm=cf4abb7dfee475ef3ff7394f2d94561a754cae48d6c6d11794ba9522cab15912& [16:11:00] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to yonic_soseki> It is [16:11:18] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> But still can cause just a bit too much trouble to be left free [16:15:49] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13037 [16:22:02] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to snowstacked> Probably would just add to manage wiki [16:29:25] <MirahezeRelay> <yonic_soseki> Yeah I guess I can see that with SQL being involved, but in a more destructive way rather than throttling way [16:35:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> since I joined I remember cargo getting globally disabled like twice [16:35:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> security issues and taking down the entire farm [16:36:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> after the latter limitations were added [16:49:18] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I think there’s performance issues too? Don’t recall [16:49:30] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> When was this lol [16:53:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> clearly before you joined lol [16:54:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I feel like early 2023 [16:54:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Definitely [16:54:39] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to pixldev> I mean yeah, a lot of wikis had it enabled but haven't used, and then bam - all wikis are down [16:54:43] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Well I think I had joined the site back then [16:54:50] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> But not in the community [18:12:10] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> i have a question about the donation banner... i don't care about it showing up on my wiki, but it's very unclear to a visitor that the donations are for the hosting service, and not being asked for by the wiki creator. can that banner be changed to make it more clear to visitors who's asking for donations? [18:13:13] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to quaraxkad> It won’t be round much longer but very good idea [18:13:16] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> @serverlessharej? [18:13:40] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Translations will need to be updated though [18:15:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ah well, it's only like 5 days left? [18:16:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> but honestly, this time the banner is very big, it's especially bad on mobile [18:16:34] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> yeah, there's a whole lot of whitespace [18:16:34] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Definitely notes for next time [18:19:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> The theming is also not very miraheze like you said [18:23:13] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> second question for the day... my previous host used /index.php/ instead of /wiki/, is there a way to forward index.php links so old urls to the website will still work? [18:27:23] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> and a third question for the day! can i modify the default monobook skin? i have some css tweaks i need to make for proper layouts [18:31:04] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to quaraxkad> We may be able to do that, not sure. Also your previous host is demented. [18:31:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to quaraxkad> You can apply CSS to [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] [18:31:19] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Common.css [18:31:20] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css> [18:31:21] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> it was a very old version [18:31:21] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Actually [18:31:33] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> [[Mediawiki:Monobook.css]] [18:31:33] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Monobook.css [18:31:34] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css> [18:31:48] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to quaraxkad> MacFan4000: can we do oath redirects [18:39:47] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> fixed my css, thanks! [18:41:18] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> turns out i have a fourth question today! my domain only works without www, is that something i need to investigate with my domain provider or with miraheze? [18:42:58] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to quaraxkad> www isn’t a technical thing that always redirects it’s just a convention to put the site on that subdomain. Your domain name is on the root domain so going to a sub domain won’t do anything [18:43:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> You could set up I believe a CNAME record to redirect to the root domain? [18:44:31] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> my provider doesn't let me edit CNAME unless it's using the default nameservers [18:44:44] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hm [18:44:50] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to quaraxkad> What provider [18:44:51] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> "Your domain is no longer using default nameservers and is pointed to private or third party nameservers. You must manage your DNS records through your hosting service or DNS service provider or reset to default nameservers to manage them here." [18:44:54] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> web.com [18:45:09] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Never heard of that one, anyways we should be able to do it [18:45:11] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to quaraxkad> It should do this already [18:45:11] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Rhinos? [18:45:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It'll be using our dns [18:45:28] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> it used to be mydomain.com, but they were bought out or merged with web.com [18:45:39] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Haven’t heard of that one either [18:45:40] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Make a task if you want a redirect with www and you pointed at us [18:46:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I don't think the index.php is on cp* [18:46:35] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It's on cf [18:46:54] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> my /index.php/ links redirect to /wiki/index.php/ [18:47:30] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> If the custom domain is working then I assume it’s pointed to us [18:47:38] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> I meant dns at us [18:47:47] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to quaraxkad> Which wiki? [18:47:54] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> acuralegendwiki.org [18:47:54] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Doesn’t the CD need DNS pointed at us? [18:48:13] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> Not the nameservers [18:48:35] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Huh [18:49:21] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> You either point at our nameservers or just the one record [18:49:42] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> We can add www if you request it [18:50:05] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> We can probably add the /index.php to /w/index.php to cp* if you request it [18:50:11] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> ok, should i just comment to my original domain forward request? or make a new request? [18:50:23] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Please make a new ticket for new requests [18:50:34] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> alright, thanks! [18:51:59] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> on the RequestSSL form or phorge? [18:52:16] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Phorge [18:52:28] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> i must admit the different method of requesting help are a bit confusing [18:53:51] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Phorge is for basically anything that requires the technical team that can't be done on wiki [18:54:43] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> for a new user like myself, i don't already know what does and doesn't fall under that category [18:58:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> There's nearly always someone here to ask if needed and we're happy to help [19:03:11] <MirahezeRelay> <quaraxkad> ok, thanks [19:45:44] <MirahezeRelay> <iskander4> uhhhh my templates always end up broken-