[01:55:34] is mw.html.create enabled for modules? [02:18:59] Hello everyone. Can someone tell me if Mihareze has stopped accepting wikis? Tell me about some requests made 1 year ago, I found out about the site today and decided to request one too. [02:20:30] We have not stopped accepting wikis. The review process is just slower since we have so many more requests. [02:21:04] You can request one at [[Special:RequestWiki]] [02:21:05] [02:22:18] I understand, but is it possible to change the name and URL of the request I made? I noticed that they had already added a different name, possibly because there is already a site with the same name, or do I do another request with a different name? [02:23:12] Have you requested and not been approved? [02:23:41] If there is an existing wiki on the topic there probably shouldn’t be another one. [02:24:05] I requested it just now, but I regretted the title and wanted to change it, also the URL. [02:24:37] Go to [[special:RequestWikiQueue, find yours and edit it [02:45:44] But is it normal for it to take 1 year? From what I've seen, there are some made in early 2023, and they are currently under review. I completely understand the slowness, but it says on the website itself that it takes 24 hours or days at most for the response to the request? [02:51:40] Waiting more than two years for a wiki to transfer. What a goal. Not related to Mira, presumably. Just...endlessly...sitting by.... [02:56:31] Im not an expert, but as far as I can tell just by looking at the request queue is that the old wiki requests that you are seeing were originally just waiting for more details, and are now back in the "In review" status because the original requester has just updated the request with those details [03:03:58] absolutely not there’s no way something took a year to review [03:04:33] :100_this: [03:05:23] Please end the image import [04:45:11] [1/2] omg does anyone know why this thing is bugged [04:45:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325686583067672628/image.png?ex=677cb157&is=677b5fd7&hm=bc44900276d3ec955a198b7de588a550b60f881c5c33fd038282efd6034d9a24& [04:45:21] it keeps sending the same message when im not trying [04:45:36] all i did was reload the page and it keeps sending more [04:45:44] then i tried to say sorry then it sent the other thing again [06:51:43] Ladies and gentlemen: How do I fix this? [06:51:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325718433764999188/image.png?ex=677ccf01&is=677b7d81&hm=b1d641fc6523ddead702d34871c0fd426f451ebfa199c079da13cd4939085bde& [07:04:30] Nevermind. I fixed it. [07:24:49] It's a known bug. It just happens sometimes. Just ignore it, and no need to apologise! [07:25:32] We need a bit more info. Where does this happen? Link? [07:30:38] Here's the code. [07:30:38] {{nobold|({{wpl|Purchasing power parity|PPP}})}} [07:30:58] If I remove my madeshift linking address (The one called wpl). It's show normally as a page. [07:31:05] But if I add it. It's probably cause some syntax error. [07:31:16] I just can't wrap my head around it... Get it? Wrap around? [07:46:28] [1/2] what each of these templates supposed to do lol [07:46:28] [2/2] easier to link, I suppose [07:53:15] nobold is to keep it not bold. wpl is to link directly to wikipedia. the full sentence of ppp is to the page on wikipedia and PPP is the name displayed as text. [07:53:57] link them man [07:54:52] I'm too lazy man. [07:55:04] Okay fine. I will. [08:00:43] I remember why I didn't want to use link... The dreaded link icon that I don't know how to remove. [08:01:30] no man I mean post link to your templates here lmao [08:01:37] Ahhh oki thanks [08:01:56] also you can remove external link icon w/ CSS (I give them different color instead) [08:02:26] If you reopen the page in a new tab, it shouldn't happen. [08:02:45] Your browser should have told you something about resubmitting data [08:05:36] When I reloaded I never got a message like that and yea I did open a new tab and it stopped [08:06:07] Ok weird [08:37:55] Ah. Gotcha. [09:18:45] @theoneandonlylegroom Good news. I screwed up the template by not using "notinclude" for the extra spacing. [09:18:47] 🤣 [09:34:21] grah! [10:14:44] Real for this [13:00:32] [1/2] is there annyway to make this happen on my wiki [13:00:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325811238785253376/image.png?ex=677d256f&is=677bd3ef&hm=087091cd5149da7d437c84fc88492b84eecfef26314e04daf866974f8044cc29& [13:00:37] on this you hover and it shows that [13:00:42] but mine it just doesnt do anything [13:01:59] [1/3] extensions pageimages, textextract and popups [13:01:59] [2/3] some settings I don't remember rn [13:01:59] [3/3] and some patience cus hell knows when it actually starts to work [13:02:29] alrighty [13:02:48] ty [13:12:37] is there like a list of most popular wikis on miraheze? [13:16:54] doubt [13:17:14] wmcloud shows biggest/most active wikis tho [13:17:56] there are handful of wikis on popular things, like games, and maybe a couple of serious AND popular wikis [13:18:50] how can i reach wmcloud? [13:20:59] [1/2] should be [13:20:59] [2/2] [13:21:29] my phone doesn't seem to handle it lol [13:45:07] How can I lock wiki account creation in a way only staff can authorize it? [13:46:44] you mean that for someone to edit your wiki they need authorisation from an administrator? [13:46:46] no way buddy, accounts on Mira are global, it's a wiki farm after all [13:48:28] Yes [13:48:33] if you are confused by user list on your wiki - it attaches any Miraheze user who visited your wiki, not just those who actually created Miraheze account trough your wiki [13:49:08] that's completely different thing then, if it's about editing [13:49:21] Hmm yes [13:49:33] consider Moderation extension, I guess [13:50:19] what are the guidelines on private wiki creation? (like what can my private wiki be about?) [13:50:55] Content Policy applies regardless if the wiki private or public [13:51:04] same rules all the way [13:51:14] alright! thank you very much! [14:43:43] Any news from Miraheze? [14:48:57] … in regards to what? [14:56:12] Just in generel, I heard the Fundraiser is doing well [15:26:10] Well any general news would be posted in #announcements or #minor-announcements depending on how important it would be. So as you can see there, nothing for a while, partly due to the holiday break that been going, untill very recently [15:28:29] did MGE wiki got reported? [15:40:56] Which [15:40:57] Oh [15:41:33] the one that got loudly kicked from Fandom back in 2021 [15:41:47] Not to my knowledge [15:41:48] Why [15:42:04] just saw people talking it went private on bsky and Meta [15:42:31] ManageWiki log on Meta mentions T&S [15:43:22] Oh [15:43:38] Why was it kicked from FANDOM? [15:43:59] NSFW, that year Fandom started going strong on such wikis [15:44:04] I’m not privy to TS talks, it’s up to @serverlessharej whether to and what to disclose regarding the action in question [15:49:51] Is it true that FANDOMDesktop skin was made to add more ads? [15:55:08] That's totally true [15:55:37] not really add more ads but "optimizing ad space" that is even worse than just more ads [15:57:37] Is it possible to change the opacity of an image without changing anything else? Not the content on top, for example? [15:57:52] FANDOM: Getting worse each year [15:59:50] They have done work on improving the situation I think [16:01:11] tbh, not directly at least [16:03:30] My partner might send a wiki request 👀 [16:18:24] Basically anything fandom does in the end is done with the purpose of somehow increase the effectiveness, or amount of ads in some way. They are a corporate entity in the end, so money is their end goal [16:18:37] ^ [16:19:16] yeah, sadly [16:19:32] enshittification at its finest [16:20:21] but tbh, I'd rather have them exist than not, if it means its existence is tied to the existence of the thousands of wikis there too [16:33:13] That's an interesting debate topic. [16:33:27] what kind of image? can specify to a class/id [17:33:24] just got my domain sorted very happty [18:07:55] [1/2] I took a look into it and it's probably not the smartest thing to do. [18:07:55] [2/2] I would like just a way to have people not be able to edit by default (or just by having an account) that's not just a user group. [18:08:12] An image on a infobox? [18:12:40] [1/2] if infobox is portable there's some "pi" image class [18:12:40] [2/2] if not, then give to image cell some class, then `.classname img { ...` [18:26:43] Yeah, it is [18:28:26] If the thousands of wikis were all ported into like other hosts or something similar overnight, then Fandom's existence wouldn't be an issue [18:30:24] But we all know it's very unrealistic by any practical means and that there are plenty of good wikis out there that are still on Fandom, including both active and inactive wikis. [18:35:10] Inportant that the WikiTeam archives them all before it happens then [18:38:19] you can remove edit and related permissions from User group and keep them on some custom group instead, but you'll have to manually put users into that custom group [18:44:21] That's the smartest thing to do actually [19:25:29] Hello, is there a specific option for mass deleting images? Instead of just the image pages, since those still allow the images to remain. [19:26:19] I mean, that's how files work, they need file pages [19:27:19] I suppose only tech team can hard delete files, from file server or whatever [19:27:19] Well yes, but mass deleting file pages does not lead to the mass deletion of files. [19:27:32] I don't get what you mean [19:27:42] can you elaborate how files still stay? [19:27:49] you mean on pages [19:27:59] You mean delete in being hidden publicly or from servers [19:28:00] cache perhaps? [19:28:55] No I mean I used the nuke to delete all .png and .jpg pages, but that didn't also delete the files themselves. [19:29:01] They're still visible in Special:NewFiles [19:30:02] Can you view them from the file page [19:30:07] Yeah [19:30:09] cache [19:30:18] special pages need a kick [19:30:28] that's my guess [19:31:05] I want to assign a link with their respective icons and website name with a template, but sometimes i only need the icon, sometimes only the text and sometimes both, can i conditionally switch parts of it off or should i just make 3 different templates [19:35:59] [1/2] For example, if I manually delete a page it's properly gone. [19:35:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325910757598167071/image.png?ex=677d821e&is=677c309e&hm=0fcdbb6bb9e8c5f46ac2ec6a9c9dc27529c8e7edf8494eaf55dfff2f543d6f2e& [19:36:25] [1/2] While if it was deleted via DPL Query the file can still be accessed. [19:36:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325910867899846716/image.png?ex=677d8239&is=677c30b9&hm=505f23286eda2748b3042d087fe08a01ff99b2fc289b1fb994873df3e9a2cb9c& [19:36:52] [1/2] It's also reflected in the deletion log. [19:36:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325910980231954544/image.png?ex=677d8253&is=677c30d3&hm=cde7b3d5972df33e7e4d01fc7aa19d469cc664fbdfd486933e3e707801053e68& [19:37:23] Was there a Special page for getting rid of the cache of all pages or? [19:38:05] can you try to purge that file page? [19:38:18] `?action=purge` in URL [19:38:38] actually, maybe it's because you are admin [19:38:58] I'm not sure though [19:39:12] I already tried purging and that doesn't seem to do anything. [19:39:36] Should I just contact someone in #tech and ask them to nuke our images on their end? [19:42:10] Ok, thanks [19:42:28] Does anyone know how to put tabs below an image rather than on top in an infobox? Thanks in advance. [19:42:29] Sorry for the successive questions. [19:43:57] @rhinosf1 can you help/tell on this, is DPL deletion borked w/ files or it's admin thing that files are still visible? [19:44:36] Not my area [19:50:36] I'll just call deleting every page a finished deal and see if trust and safety agrees. If not I'll just undelete and delete it manually. [19:57:59] Please raise a bug [19:58:20] If you've been asked to delete content by trust & safety and you mislead them, it's not going to be seen well [19:58:32] We should be able to mass remove the images [20:16:35] [1/2] styled by wiki welcome page with a template. i mean i will add more to it [20:16:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325920973924466838/Screenshot_2025-01-07_at_02-16-15_Aceistan_Wiki.png?ex=677d8ba2&is=677c3a22&hm=811ee378469cf25ce6efe38a0aa27d1eb4d46a7da672f53ff5d77dbe91590e92& [20:18:20] like a youtube section where latest videos will be shown [20:19:00] @ochiverde can you provide the list of files you were trying to delete so we can batch delete them for you? [20:19:28] And yes, DPL deletion is buggy with files so it doesn't actually delete it [20:23:27] [1/2] Yeah sure [20:23:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325922703600910397/Filelist.txt?ex=677d8d3e&is=677c3bbe&hm=15bf07640709d31ecd16520d88558b8dca0ee18ccec5ddf047dc1e865e32b61e& [20:24:49] Thanks [20:25:54] What's your wiki name [20:26:09] monstergirlencyclopedia [20:26:35] It's currently privated so it can't exactly be accessed. [20:28:33] ah that's why it looked so familiar [20:28:36] thanks lots [20:30:40] np [20:46:44] still waiting for the themetoggle extension to, yknow, be on miraheze [20:46:54] not trying to be THAT impatient but yknow [21:28:02] Have you got an open task? [21:29:08] Yea [21:29:15] It’s approved [21:29:18] Needs a or [21:29:45] Okay [21:29:59] It'll be done in due course then [21:31:24] @the.king.cube A lot of tech were away for the holidays so it'll probably get actioned soon [21:31:49] It looks like it was out of our control for a while [21:36:11] Wait, why would they not have theme toggle? [21:38:35] Hey, does anyone know whats going on with Monster Girl Encyclopedia? I've been trying to access it but it keeps saying I don't have permission to read any pages. I'm very confused. [21:41:15] temporarily privated by trust and safety team [21:41:31] it seems like admins are working on fixing the issues [21:41:55] Ah, I see. Any idea when it might be made public again? [21:42:18] well, depends on admins [21:42:25] <9021007> does anyone know how to set my wiki's embed descriptions or images? [21:42:29] When the issue is resolved by the lock staff yeah [21:42:36] <9021007> [1/2] this thing [21:42:36] <9021007> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325942621813608599/image.png?ex=677d9fcb&is=677c4e4b&hm=0f056cd0cf1df11c1b55e01b5c08ffa652801e9aabe717c761766f7b0337cf55& [21:43:11] WikiSEO and Page Images [21:43:32] <9021007, replying to pixldev> I have WikiSEO enambed [21:43:39] When it's done. [21:43:53] Fair [21:43:57] <9021007> but thanks for the tip on PageImages [21:45:01] Thanks for the help [21:45:04] <.labster> Yeah, there are some systemic issues with Content Policy violations on Monster Girl Encyclopedia, but admins are handling it. It was a little bit beyond just a couple files that got missed, so we went for a lock so that it can be cleaned up a bit. [21:45:52] Honestly I just got the content policy violation warning but I didn't actually get anything specific, so I just settled on nuking the entire image repertoire. [21:46:01] I see [21:46:10] If its was ConPol it wouldn’t be TS, it would be Stewards I believe [21:46:38] <.labster> Some things fall under both. [21:46:46] It was TS. [21:46:47] That’s true. [21:46:58] <9021007, replying to 9021007> Is there a way to specify it? WikiSEO is only showing a period [21:47:18] Regardless, thank you Ochiverde for helping clean up, much appreciated 🍀 [21:47:28] It's my wiki. [21:47:31] I kinda have to. [21:48:06] Fair enough friend [21:49:13] <.labster> In our current case, since the MGE was created, we have added a rule against any form of sexualizing minors (including drawn), which wasn't there back then. We understand that striking a balance between free speech and safety and availability in most countries is really hard. [21:50:28] Yeah but I didn't instantly get nuked when it went into effect so I thought everything was cool. [21:50:39] And it's been a few months since then. [21:50:43] But oh well. [21:51:11] [1/3] pageimages might take some time to start working, WikiSEO is a manual way of setting up previews via parser functions [21:51:11] [2/3] check Additional settings > SEO tabs, there are some related settings at the bottom [21:51:11] [3/3] as for text you need to enable textextract extensions + see same settings [21:51:58] <.labster, replying to ochiverde> That's largely a consequence of that we cant police everything, so we expect our wiki admins to help us enforce our ToU. [21:52:57] [1/2] umm is this wiki problem or discords? [21:52:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325945227403460689/Screenshot_2025-01-07_at_03-52-26_198_Discord_commands_Aces_home_with_basement.png?ex=677da239&is=677c50b9&hm=2ae2abdbf151d7359a64fa1b28a22f56f292ee7b68c3217128f4801505ea19fe& [21:53:14] What the fuck [21:53:19] hmmmmm [21:53:30] thats my reaction few days ago [21:53:36] <.labster> I'm sure there are wikis out there that have never been viewed by staff -- after getting through the request wiki process, where we already don't have enough people to review, we don't review the active wikis so much either. [21:55:44] <9021007, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> okay so it looks like subpages are working for descriptions, but the main page is not. I think it might be because of the `NOTOC` i have at the top. Is there a way for textracts to ignore that and skip down to the main text? Also how long do the images normally take? [21:55:44] Anyways I'll just wait until image deletion is finished on the tech end and go from there. [21:58:43] Doesn't the ```NOTOC``` tag just force the page to not generate a table of contents? [21:59:05] [1/3] `NOTOC` shouldn't have an effect here [21:59:05] [2/3] text might take some time to arrange too [21:59:05] [3/3] in toolbar there should be Page information link, and at the bottom it would show WikiSEO info [21:59:07] You can just add it to the bottom if you think it's messing with it. [21:59:30] Not sure [21:59:34] Feels like mediawiki [21:59:46] But I have an open bug report for Discord with open graph tags now [22:00:09] <9021007, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> wait can i just... edit the page information page?? [22:00:21] <9021007> oh no [22:00:22] Yeah? [22:00:23] <9021007> i cant [22:00:26] no, it's a Special page [22:00:37] <9021007> [1/2] i want to edit this lol [22:00:37] <9021007> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325947157332885614/image.png?ex=677da405&is=677c5285&hm=6bdd7251b8f5eb6761cc13a236addbb67f398cd25d50173c0dfd6419e7746220& [22:00:40] it shows you technical info about the page [22:00:50] <9021007> content: "." [22:01:06] [1/2] I repeat, it takes some time to generate automatically [22:01:06] [2/2] OR you force it w/ WikiSEO syntax/code [22:01:14] and wait a bit quicker [22:01:24] https://aceistan.miraheze.org/wiki/Hymm_of_Ace [22:01:31] but that's manual work [22:01:37] <9021007, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] oh thank you [22:01:37] <9021007, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325947405883019446/image.png?ex=677da440&is=677c52c0&hm=dd3c3700f1db0a201fc76742021510747577f2d3947200e67e7d6c94d5247995& [22:01:40] It should be grabbing the first paragraph if it's generated automatically. [22:01:45] you'll have to do it on every page [22:02:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325947603879465140/image.png?ex=677da46f&is=677c52ef&hm=bfecf79ad010ae7196de7c4b1f8d0e372329b6126c1c42ec0be3c99f1ae99a72& [22:02:27] And you have a lot of pages. [22:02:49] Unless you mean to do it only for content pages, which isn't that much. [22:04:08] <9021007, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> that's fine, the wiki only has like... 30 pages? [22:04:14] <9021007> tedious, but doable [22:07:12] Is there a way to make redirects show up as the title of the actual page rather than this? [22:08:15] there's some extension I believe, I remember it messing up links? [22:08:23] I forgot which [22:08:26] ohh another dormant page [22:08:45] another yaseen's creation [22:08:57] need to change that but opinion is needed [22:09:21] maybe leave that? [22:09:30] anyways [22:09:41] could be [22:10:42] [1/2] If that's the case, then I can just use it temporarily [22:10:42] [2/2] I just need to easily view what items/sections need a redirect [22:12:17] [1/2] The conseqences of encapsulating info to as little pages as possible but you still gotta be compatible with Fandom [22:12:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325950091349200957/image.png?ex=677da6c0&is=677c5540&hm=fa19075c667930476c2659c5fffd167bcacae9de1a85eb4bacc82704306ac1ff& [22:14:03] ah, that's another thing, I misunderstood [22:14:28] redirect links here have their own class/id, maybe you can recolor it or something [22:14:55] I hid them for myself on my wikis [22:15:40] there used to be "hide redirects" checkbox, it's gone now because of miser mode (that's to tech team) [22:15:44] [1/2] i think u understood me the 1st time [22:15:44] [2/2] Its more that it's a lil tedious to hover over each redirect to look at what it is [22:16:27] [1/2] no, definately didn't xd [22:16:27] [2/2] I gotta sleep fr now [22:16:48] [1/2] damn [22:16:48] [2/2] good night [22:20:30] I mean that's a pretty fair rule to be honest, I kind of expect something like that at some point [22:23:47] <9021007, replying to 9021007> [1/2] looks great! thank you all! [22:23:47] <9021007, replying to 9021007> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325952985779409077/image.png?ex=677da972&is=677c57f2&hm=65aa6b2af098f3fc95ef4df7dda9b932bdafdd56eccd4b8031140ed594728531& [22:25:43] <9021007> [1/2] lol found a typo [22:25:44] <9021007> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325953474495512606/image.png?ex=677da9e7&is=677c5867&hm=8ab2c05e64a06839b2d355602abd5a22b49faf41e92252fb6e5a138623312e78& [22:30:40] <.labster, replying to 9021007> Pull requests are welcome: https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/c283a93a3d3eed99c09c2cafd27b8d5de5a63a44/ManageWikiSettings.php#L1320 [22:46:28] <9021007, replying to .labster> i had no idea where to find that lol, thank you! [22:48:30] <9021007> [1/2] :GUH: [22:48:30] <9021007> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1325959208012615772/image.png?ex=677daf3e&is=677c5dbe&hm=341357af0d13c6a5f6f6a2a8a33155375d85431cbfc7247d6f3f9b49e7a16c95& [22:49:23] <.labster, replying to 9021007> You need to #verify to post links [22:49:43] <9021007, replying to .labster> ah, i was verified in the past [22:49:56] <9021007> i feel like it should auto-verify you if you leave and rejoin [22:50:02] <9021007> anyway... https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5777