[00:07:31] how long does it take for a wiki to be approved? [00:09:20] With current backlog, usually 3-5 days, though we've experienced a glut of requests + absences from the reviewer group. [00:09:38] So currently closer to 8-9 days, though we're working on some projects to speed it up. [00:10:03] oh alright [00:10:14] was just wondering because i've been waiting for 3 days but there's nothing wrong with that [00:10:16] thank you! [00:10:32] Certainly. I'll try and cut a few days off the cue this evening if time allows. 🙂 [00:17:26] thank you for helping! [00:17:51] hopefully im in those few days haha [00:34:13] 🇧🇷 [00:43:06] Brazil mentioned [00:45:29] O melhor país [00:54:35] What's up chat [01:08:15] Sky [01:08:51] Shit... [01:09:07] For now [01:33:28] <.spacedancer.> How can I make a large expandable box with info? [01:34:11] [[mw:Collapsible elements]] [01:34:12] [02:02:43] is there a way to find the font sizes of images [02:03:01] or do i need to go count pixels 💀 [02:06:21] <.spacedancer., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> “There is currently no text in this page” [02:15:40] [1/2] that's ... weird [02:15:41] [2/2] I'm on phone so didn't check result but I'm 99% it was this page [02:16:17] nvm [02:16:34] [1/2] missed prefix [02:16:34] [2/2] [02:16:41] <.spacedancer.> Thanks! [02:18:50] <.spacedancer., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> So can I make a collapsible infobox? [02:20:51] [1/2] yeah, I don't have such examples tho, it depends on how you want to code infobox itself [02:20:51] [2/2] it's usually sections of infobox getting collapsed by default too (again, methods vary w/ infobox types) [02:21:52] <.spacedancer., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I’m saying like a big box with lots of info for my characters not sections [02:21:59] <.spacedancer.> I see it on fandom a lot [02:23:09] [1/2] that's called infobox, but people don't make it collapsed [02:23:09] [2/2] by sections I meant cells inside infobox [02:23:19] is there any rules on what some pages have to be [02:23:19] [[Infoboxes]] [02:23:20] [02:23:29] like lets say the about wiki page does it have to contain real info [02:23:34] or can i put a placeholder for now [02:23:46] standards vary between wikis [02:24:09] i meant would miraheze be annoyed if i did it on my own [02:24:18] [1/2] cuz this is just tempoary until i can write smth up [02:24:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327825452705910816/image.png?ex=67847951&is=678327d1&hm=c027b00be8e207b71e96f410337016c740d5fba417359085a8cfe4827143a211& [02:25:04] if you mean Project:About, it can describe purpose/scope of the wiki, have links to other project pages like General disclaimer, Copyrights, Code of Conduct, etc [02:25:21] well the page i sent just now has the cat as a placeholder [02:25:25] would that be fine until i write smth [02:25:28] in fact, I've a lot of wikis not having About at all [02:26:01] they don't seem to suffer [02:27:27] [1/2] you don't have to have placeholders - or stubs, short unfinished pages [02:27:27] [2/2] having loads of stubs or making placeholders constantly is regarded as poor practice [02:28:13] Oh i see [02:30:33] "Meow" [02:30:35] :3 [02:37:40] [1/2] how do i replicate this a move this down [02:37:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327828820212056095/image.png?ex=67847c74&is=67832af4&hm=0e2172d66e92eea8b3b3adbc42a4abc8b68b44b8872002ae49a6cb196a529444& [02:37:48] [1/2] cuz this happens [02:37:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327828851300110406/image.png?ex=67847c7c&is=67832afc&hm=702961e526cb7df8dd4b1729afcd16df83ff309239e385acb606ea8457f397b7& [02:38:55] div nesting 😍 [02:39:03] this is a table 💔 [02:57:23] do you guys prefer monobook or vector [02:57:47] i was thinking i’d use monobook just because it looked cooler but vector is just more convenient [02:59:36] [1/2] huh [02:59:36] [2/2] https://philosophyball.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Homophobia.png [02:59:58] its not even from Miraheze commons [03:00:01] I prefer monobook [03:00:56] Meow indeed [03:02:05] i apologize if i’m misinformed, it’s just miraheze by default uses the old vector skin from wikipedia and it just got me curious [03:04:49] current default is Vector 2022, what English Wikipedia is using [03:04:57] vector 2022 or legacy vector? [03:05:15] citizen 😝 [03:05:34] https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-speculation-we-do-a-little-speculation-gif-sharks-office-speculation-gif-24940290 [03:05:48] legacy/old Vector is what some other versions of Wikipedia still use [03:06:51] ehh, both [03:07:37] i prefer legacy [03:08:48] vector legacy is honestly better than 2022 [03:09:06] 💯 [03:09:22] I genuinely cannot use Vector 2022. [03:09:34] I tried it for the last two months and it was just so hard to navigate. [03:09:35] [1/2] like look at this [03:09:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327836851414765670/image.png?ex=678483ef&is=6783326f&hm=9a728fde9f98255f20d078354a1aa95c6c351cddc95d12b2903176063c6a876f& [03:09:46] Timeless is my preferred skin though, after warming up to it. [03:09:59] team Timeless [03:10:10] Monobook is fine but the default spacing and text sizes ruins formating for a lot of wikis nowadays. [03:10:34] I like Monaco for nostalgia purposes too. It looks perfectly 2000s-2010s. [03:11:21] I prefer Citizen which is pretty beautiful [03:13:09] 💯 [03:13:17] can we all agree that minerva sucks [03:13:20] or is it only me [03:13:37] everyone hate minerva [03:13:44] [LFG_c](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1151811778188161064.webp?size=48&name=LFG_c) [03:13:50] and fandommobile [03:13:58] Fandom mobile makes me depressed. [03:14:13] OMG THE HOME PAGES [03:14:16] ON EVERY WIKI [03:14:17] ON MOBILE [03:14:18] IS SHIT [03:14:25] this is very real [03:14:26] Fandom's obsession with making every wiki the exact same hit hard as a lurker/editor since 2009. [03:14:44] https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-23663947 [03:15:11] Also the wikis are virtually unusable if you dont have an account. [03:15:34] I lost my login info and now I can't even really look at images anymore? Because going to image source pages would take away adsense I guess? [03:16:04] i remember them removing monobook and saying it had something to do w/ security or data protection laws, but literally everyone I worked w/ over there said it's bullshit [03:16:49] Yeah. [03:17:24] [1/3] it looks like they made file namespace inaccessible for anons [03:17:24] [2/3] history and some other buttons gone from mobile [03:17:24] [3/3] I suspect it's for google crawlers [03:18:08] Ah. That makes more sense but it still sucks. [03:18:18] absolutely [03:19:01] hm yeah Citizen does look nice. [03:20:39] still waiting on that theme extension to come out [03:20:50] then ill be having hella fun on it in lagcy vector [03:21:04] citizen too is plain for me + that damn left side stripe [03:21:12] kill the `strip` [03:21:25] modern fandomdesktop.... [03:21:29] timeless has a style [03:22:15] [1/2] totally useful [03:22:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327840037949407253/image.png?ex=678486e7&is=67833567&hm=f5e349f31f686c4274f25617f015a4320e2fb86dd16faf64a856021ca093e9d2& [03:22:43] 2 big ass strips [03:23:02] what [03:23:06] Citizen is very plain and generic but it gives me the _I can do a lot with this..._ itch Timeless didn't give me because Timeless looks so good by default. [03:23:14] i really liked it being moved to the left though [03:23:41] Tfwiki has a running gag where they keep posting increasingly enshitified screenshots from the Transformers Fandom wiki and it never stops being funny. [03:23:42] it can be heavily modified [03:24:30] 💯 [03:25:05] i agree with this not gonna lie [03:25:57] why didn't they make mobile like miraheze's [03:26:24] cause fandom branding MUST appear everywhere [03:26:32] header footer sidebar everything 🤑 [03:26:52] pizzatower.wiki and argobdp.miraheze.org are on timeless [03:27:16] soon enough the wikis itself will be their logo [03:27:55] [1/2] fandomdesktop is like minerva (so wikipedia) but worse [03:27:55] [2/2] the thing is, fandom doesn't like customisations [03:27:59] Anyone remember that brief period where they were trying to ditch MediaWiki itself fro their own inferior clone [03:28:38] which is [03:29:14] i forget what they named it. The Hilda wiki used to use it. [03:29:18] I got there in 2015 so probably no [03:29:21] famn hates any custom css on discussions [03:29:24] like why??? [03:29:53] discussions aren't part of mediawiki I think [03:29:53] because uhh discussions [03:30:05] CSS doesn't work there, so yeah [03:30:17] [1/2] top 3 best skins [03:30:17] [2/2] citizen timeless and hassomecolours [03:30:38] what does citizen look like [03:31:49] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Citizen [03:32:23] looks nice i guess [03:35:37] [1/2] strange [03:35:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327843401969963100/Screenshot_2025-01-12-11-34-36-55_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=67848a09&is=67833889&hm=19be6cbc978a6e251a9a81e3cc0ba08b3e6a7490e937a6720ccf8d1fd76a9663& [03:36:05] wow I cannot find anything on this aside from some broken archive.org links [03:36:40] they're erasing their own history [03:37:01] Yeah I can find the archive version of a forum thread talking about it but all the links on it are not captured. [03:37:42] This whole thing lasted for like a month around late 2019 (November it seems to have started in earnest?) so I think they were super embarrassed. [03:38:51] ? [03:46:53] 2019? that sounds like they were planning the unified platform thing, after buying Gamepedia [03:47:54] Gamepedia's version of Vector was called Hydra [04:13:04] Does !important cause any major problems? [04:24:41] Let’s be honest if you’re using CSS you either already have problems or about to have a whole lot more (both) [04:33:07] I think I've gotten to the point where I understand most commands but I never quite learned the minutia of it. [04:40:33] [1/2] The main thing to my knowledge, is that the overuse of `!important`, can make further CSS changes down the line harder, as you are sort of "sidestepping" the hierarchy in a way, hence why it is considered bad practice. Due to the way MediaWiki works though, with the layers of CSS, not all of which is directly accessible by wiki admins, that "sidestepping" of the hierarchy is importan [04:40:33] [2/2] t(heh) more than average compared to traditional website design, where the admins have full access to all CSS used [04:42:28] [1/2] @theoneandonlylegroom !!!!!!!!! [04:42:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327860225335890022/image.png?ex=678499b4&is=67834834&hm=76e6511450da0b0b406cf78505837de1efe5936a1e1d097393ef52a5047edcec& [04:42:31] yipeeeeee [04:43:36] I get that but I cannot find a way to untangle this messy css web without important [04:44:23] Fpr reference I'm attempting to create a light-mode for my wiki but the css infoboxes use have two or three layers to them. [04:57:06] [1/20] ```html [04:57:06] [2/20]
[04:57:06] [3/20] {| [04:57:07] [4/20] | colspan="3"|
{{{title|Asylum Sports}}}/div [04:57:07] [5/20] |- [04:57:07] [6/20] | rowspan="3" width="50%"|
{{{hp|100/100}}}/div [04:57:08] [7/20] |- [04:57:08] [8/20] |
{{{walkspeed|16}}}/div [04:57:08] [9/20] |
{{{jumppower|50}}}/div [04:57:09] [10/20] |- [04:57:09] [11/20] |
{{{attack|1x}}}/div [04:57:10] [12/20] |
{{{defense|0%}}}/div [04:57:10] [13/20] |- [04:57:11] [14/20] | colspan="3"|
{{{item1|pro golf}}}/div [04:57:11] [15/20] |- [04:57:12] [16/20] | colspan="3"|
{{{item2|pegasus boots}}}/div [04:57:12] [17/20] |- [04:57:13] [18/20] | colspan="3"|
{{{item3|dunk}}}/div [04:57:13] [19/20] |}/div [04:57:14] [20/20] ``` the 18 lines of torture [04:57:30] :EpicFaceMH: [05:01:07] god i hate dealing with tables [05:01:12] and divs [05:02:15] lowkey not that bad [05:10:08] can still be improved by putting styles for item cards into a global CSS class, effectively staying away from inline codes [05:10:29] It is a global css class [05:11:23] I mean the `style` variable [05:12:45] Can you givr an example [05:13:37] give the repetitive css code a class [05:13:39] then [05:14:00] make css page for the template [05:14:49] [1/7] ``` [05:14:49] [2/7] .icespice { [05:14:50] [3/7] font-size: 22px; [05:14:50] [4/7] font-weight: bold; [05:14:50] [5/7] margin-top: -10px; [05:14:51] [6/7] } [05:14:51] [7/7] ``` [05:15:28] [1/4] so you can do [05:15:28] [2/4] ``` [05:15:29] [3/4] |
{{{defense|0%}}}/div [05:15:29] [4/4] ``` [05:15:31] or [05:16:06] [1/4] a more convenient way might be [05:16:06] [2/4] ``` [05:16:06] [3/4] | class="itemasylum-font icespice" style="margin-right: 7px" | {{{defense|0%}}} [05:16:06] [4/4] ``` [06:24:12] Ok im stupid what [06:34:40] i dont know how to use templatestyles [06:34:47] i can do this [06:34:51] but uh later im tired af [06:37:13] [1/2] why does this happen?? [06:37:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327889105127997440/image.png?ex=6784b499&is=67836319&hm=171c25a4c0d0fa1f96cef2d5237623a79905cee784d46f92af258767d9539901& [06:37:41] [11/34] |
{{{walkspeed|16}}}/div [06:37:41] [12/34] |
{{{jumppower|50}}}/div [06:37:41] [13/34] |- [06:37:41] [14/34] |
{{{attack|1x}}}/div [06:37:41] [15/34] |
{{{defense|0%}}}/div [06:37:41] [16/34] |- [06:37:41] [17/34] | colspan="3"|
{{{item1|item1}}}/div [06:37:43] [18/34] |- [06:37:43] [19/34] | colspan="3"|
{{{item2|item2}}}/div [06:37:46] [20/34] |- [06:37:46] [21/34] | colspan="3"|
{{{item3|item3}}}/div [06:37:46] [22/34] |} [06:37:47] [23/34] /div [06:37:47] [24/34] |rare1 = testing3 [06:37:47] [25/34] |rare2 = testing4 [06:37:47] [26/34] |rare3 = testing5 [06:37:47] [27/34] |epic1 = testing6 [06:37:47] [28/34] |epic2 = testing7 [06:37:47] [29/34] |epic3 = testing8 [06:37:48] [30/34] |legendary1 = testing9 [06:37:48] [31/34] |legendary2 = testing10 [06:37:49] [32/34] |legendary3 = testing11 [06:37:49] [33/34] }} [06:37:50] [34/34] ``` [06:38:56] [1/2] and this happens [06:38:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327889536860164168/image.png?ex=6784b500&is=67836380&hm=29e2cf65b0b929f9823efc1a0fffbec32f12a7b255dc312eac650b87ac80f5a0& [06:49:40] {{mw:Extension:TemplateStyles}} [06:49:41] [06:50:13] ah [06:57:15] wait [06:57:17] uhhhhhhh [06:57:25] @snowstacked [06:57:25] https://jbcstudios.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:KIT/styles.css [06:57:42] where do i add tag in this [07:00:44] oh i figured it out lol [07:03:25] nvm [07:03:31] i infact did not Figure it out [07:04:33] yeah i dunno [07:22:45] oh [07:34:35] `` in Template:KIT [08:34:09] [1/2] wnere does this bar come from 💔 https://utg.miraheze.org/Template:Fake_infotable [08:34:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327918531635056641/Screenshot_2025-01-12-16-33-24-29_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=6784d001&is=67837e81&hm=ac4346c98f4a270eb6cbf8514378be0fdb17882a26c129466e4ebd098443085f& [08:43:56] How do I enable /styles.css on my Wiki [08:46:27] can anyone tell me if this makes sense [08:46:28] is there a template somewhere to use #ifexist without having to replace all spaces wit underscores [08:46:49] or a template that does that automatically [08:46:50] Special:ManageWiki/extension [08:47:05] these subpages work from TemplateStyles extension [08:47:22] meanwhile i cant tell if mine works [08:47:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327921946473664553/image.png?ex=6784d32f&is=678381af&hm=d05b7576eedf45039c184a3cfcc0f805d9b08239e0ec856eb3f305e2c3f9c1fe& [08:47:52] Yes that’s what I am talking about @theoneandonlylegroom [08:48:04] dude enable syntax highlight [08:48:17] i disabled it to take a screenshot of it 💀 [08:48:33] are you not able to expand the windows of this without disabling syntax highlighting [08:48:43] I'm on phone buddy [08:49:17] and how all white makes it more understandable when I keep preaching for highlight [08:49:47] [pou](https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/889572356027220048.png?size=160&name=pou) [08:50:08] what the point of the switch function? [08:50:35] to switch between the different iterations of this template [08:50:38] theres 11 total [08:51:00] and how different they're? [08:51:13] their color and the amount of slots they have [08:51:49] is there a base set of slots same for all? [08:52:20] uhh i guess the one which has 3 slots [08:52:23] thats the common one [08:54:03] [1/2] I personally would make separate templates, sharing one /styles.css [08:54:03] [2/2] I'm trying to not use switch often [08:54:21] I do that w/ templates [08:54:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327923714360082452/IMG_4544.png?ex=6784d4d5&is=67838355&hm=6c80d5b99fbfbdd832d271ae8ea5886c043aabda03944efd396efed98acc9c74& [08:54:51] Is this what I needed to enable [08:55:43] CSS extension works differently, you can disable it [08:55:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327923962977456161/IMG_4545.png?ex=6784d510&is=67838390&hm=07323df4cff22805c5ff0f53fc234104907ab565dfd6c49f8b7bb82d9a04ebe4& [08:55:54] I got it Thank you for the advices [08:56:21] 🙏 [08:57:47] hmm [08:58:00] [1/2] for some reason this comes up [08:58:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327924534854291499/image.png?ex=6784d598&is=67838418&hm=9d7e303d34ee0ea1119d03e9663f3595e235aa1ec7938326c354a8859f429151& [08:58:11] ```{{KIT|common3}}``` [09:03:34] redirects dont seem to work with template [09:05:21] Is commentstreams being missing a known issue? [09:20:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327930096937341028/IMG_4566.png?ex=6784dac6&is=67838946&hm=de632bdda924df71ccddf0223785b21805d24f3b35aec46142a85ffd9e5b1db7& [09:20:19] I gave credit to your Wiki @theoneandonlylegroom [09:22:17] the Cosmos bit is incorrect tho, since it's styles template, it will work on all skins, even mobile mode [10:06:50] [1/2] # Anyone can someone help [10:06:50] [2/2] ## 35 hours already passed since i sign up for Request SSL from GiantessElsie.net to giantessdimension.net for my wiki [10:07:35] dude [10:07:48] you was told to wait [10:07:50] What usually it was already done [10:08:06] At this time [10:08:27] I think i waited 15 hours +- for my first time [10:11:01] Okay i will wait [10:12:15] @giantesselsie the desire to help you goes down significantly every time you ask [10:12:40] Oh sorry i know i am annoying [10:12:59] If you know you're annoying, stop [10:13:09] That's not an excuse [10:13:49] Okay [10:14:22] Wait i have a idea to help me and maybe help you [10:15:04] @rhinosf1 mute me for lets say 4 days or 3 days or whenever it is done [10:15:18] I wont be mad [10:16:08] You shouldn't have that little self control [10:16:15] Respect the volunteers hard [10:16:27] I do [10:16:29] That shouldn't be hard [10:16:40] It is just i don't have patience sometimes [10:16:44] Show it then because you're not [10:17:06] work on it man [10:17:21] A lack of patience towards those spending their evenings and weekends to help you for free is extremely disrespectful [10:17:40] Okay [10:17:54] Can we have a normal conversation [10:18:06] Trying to forgot about the wiki for abit [10:18:28] Why is there a blue football in your pfp @rhinosf1 [10:18:30] Hasn’t this person had a history of acting like this in this server? [10:18:30] you are the one who started not normal conversation but ok [10:18:37] also #offtopic [10:18:39] hi guys [10:18:40] It's a rugby ball [10:18:41] me bacck [10:18:45] And yes #offtopic [10:18:47] Roblox? [10:18:50] Or just be quiet [10:18:58] yuh [10:19:08] a:pepepog: [10:19:16] oh cool pressure wiki!!!! [10:19:24] a wiki with a cool custom domain... [10:20:42] The nefarious $8.99 [10:21:48] I think it’s renewing this may(?) [10:23:00] man [10:23:07] yall make dollars look like pocket change [10:23:16] dollars to rupees is legit `high` [10:25:13] if ssl cert wait time is bad you should see request queue [10:25:18] I get depressed just looking at it [10:25:51] I might tentatively attempt an 'easy process' where I go over a bunch of them and make the obvious call, then return to ones with more nuance, but that will still take a good chunk of evening [10:26:21] Oof [10:26:41] Can you link ur wiki really quickly? [10:26:46] On an unrelated note [10:26:48] https://jbcstudios.miraheze.org/wiki/JBC_Studios_Wiki [10:26:57] its for the game item asylum [10:27:04] named it this because [10:27:14] some confirmed hacker of the game went and made his [10:27:19] which is dying [10:27:20] yipee [10:27:21] It's really not bad [10:27:25] Did Stackd get to you :nervous: [10:27:27] It's been a few days [10:27:35] stackd did what now [10:27:42] Css [10:27:54] nah i did this way before [10:28:01] altho he did help me in few things [10:28:09] me and one more dude [10:28:09] Ah [10:28:45] honestly [10:28:49] That’s goated [10:28:58] a guy in our wiki discord wanted to buy a custom domain for the wiki [10:29:04] i was like "nah we dont need it now" [10:29:16] because he ended up buying the domain itemasylum.com [10:29:24] ty :3 [10:29:26] might change it [10:29:30] to match the game [10:29:31] but idk [10:30:04] they willingly chose citizen [10:30:10] looks too much like fandom [10:30:16] i opposed citizen [10:30:26] oh [10:30:27] but an admin was like 'this is cooler!!! more customizable" [10:30:28] and i was like [10:30:35] "ok fine" [10:30:40] but i still love vector legacy... [10:30:44] they unwillingly chose citizen but not becusee of me [10:31:00] (i did not know stacks existed before this) [10:31:14] (nor this server) [10:31:19] this is what happens when you associate yourself with a mediawiki skin [10:31:28] https://tenor.com/view/cat-this-cat-is-x-x-this-cat-is-glass-door-gif-1779637254761011194 [10:31:47] i have a cool concept for my wiki's main page design [10:32:57] I was looking more at the main pagr [10:33:01] [1/2] giant play button............ [10:33:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327948444324728892/image.png?ex=6784ebdd&is=67839a5d&hm=0fb50ac89ffe0b42937c7c76dd75e46e87746a1d7816ff88d766caabcb365b7b& [10:33:19] is there a way to make a div link to an external site [10:33:33] :3 [10:34:53] Official wiki? [10:35:09] riw invite 😍 [10:35:13] yeah [10:35:18] it aint done tho [10:35:39] no unfortunately [10:35:41] huh [10:35:43] Have you guys set up wikiSEO? :CerberHuh: [10:35:46] AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [10:35:54] im gonna explode [10:35:57] Server for admins of indie Roblox wiki projects [10:36:04] oo [10:36:08] https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244 [10:36:11] Dms [10:36:14] i dont [10:36:15] know [10:36:23] Do that as soon as possible [10:36:28] for real [10:36:42] how do you do it (im asking a stupid question arent i) [10:36:48] Extensions [10:36:49] enable the extension [10:37:00] then read {{mw:extension:wikiSEO}} [10:37:02] [10:41:59] ah [10:42:10] dont i need to add this to like everypage or smth [10:42:37] not really [10:42:47] just put it in homepage [10:42:53] mmk. [10:42:55] as long as you wikiseo and google search console [10:43:05] your results will boost by a lil bit [10:43:58] well i guess ill look into dis [10:47:21] [1/2] after a few months our wiki reaches 1.5k monthly clicks, which is an impressive numbers [10:47:22] [2/2] I can help you with that if you insists [10:47:45] i mean sure [10:47:50] i dont really know what im doing lol [10:49:10] There are a lot of good guides here [10:49:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Collei/Improving_a_wiki%27s_SEO [10:49:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/WikiSEO_-_Improving_Search_Ranking [11:17:43] [1/2] question [11:17:44] [2/2] does miraheze support unofficial extensions like jayktaylor's mw-discord (MediaWiki extension that sends notifications to a Discord webhook from MediaWiki) [11:18:21] As long as it can be installed [11:18:26] What makes an extension official [11:18:54] We don't usually install custom extensions though except in some limited cases [11:18:59] we already have an extension for Discord webhooks [11:19:12] Well that's for recent changes [11:19:25] Depends what sort of notifications [11:19:47] We don't install extensions that are specific to a single wiki [11:19:55] Custom is probably a poor word @reception123 [11:20:10] yeah my bad, I meant specific to a single wiki yeah [11:20:15] We're happy for you to come to us with a problem though and let us suggest a solution [11:31:41] note: this link is rotten [11:44:31] is there a way to create a redirect that works with a template? [11:48:21] redirects, like a short-named templates to references to a main one? [11:48:53] i want a dynamic redirect of sorts [11:49:24] ive made a template that chooses the correct page to redirect to [11:50:24] [1/3] but if i put the template into the redirect [11:50:24] [2/3] #redirect {{foo|generic article name}} [11:50:24] [3/3] it doesnt work [11:50:55] well, redirects doesn't work like that unfortunately [11:50:58] even tho the template returns a perfectly normal article link [11:51:07] is there a way to do that [11:51:33] #redirect [[{{foo|generic article name}}]] isnt working either [11:51:40] no idea for now 🤷 [11:51:46] :c [12:26:12] Are there others who have wiki's loading slow? [12:26:46] Nope, MediaWiki uses a regex pattern to find the redirect syntax in the page content and does not expand templates, to my knowledge there is no way to create dynamic redirects like that in MW (maybe there's an extension for it but I've never heard of one) [12:27:33] [1/2] oh there is: [12:27:34] [2/2] it's neither maintained nor available on Miraheze though [12:30:07] Sadly over a decade since last commit [12:32:04] i found a way!!!!!!!!!!!! [12:33:13] (i think) [12:33:58] extremely sad [12:34:25] dawg it works when i use inspect element [12:34:26] wtf. [12:35:26] [1/2] inspect element allows more stuff than wikitext does [12:35:26] [2/2] Mediawiki sanitizes the HTML and disallows certain tags and properties [12:35:48] https://tenor.com/view/bored-depressed-boredom-lazy-unimpressed-gif-23799140 [12:36:54] You could use JS to modify the div to have that link but Mediawiki probably has a reason to not allow it [12:37:54] boutta `rage` [12:38:05] is it possible to make standart html redircts then [12:38:06] [bruhno_c](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1118999626452840488.webp?size=48&name=bruhno_c) [12:40:23] do it like me and just upload a icon of a button and add an external link there [12:43:41] [1/2] What are the settings automatically set for [Extension:DynamicPageList3](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList3)? [12:43:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327981329807179849/image.png?ex=67850a7d&is=6783b8fd&hm=4b78e2b31ead2e6e3fab9db92a53c73a493d5b74a9c0a54fbc358867f94559d2& [12:44:22] its a big button [12:44:32] cant expect everyone to click the image [12:45:30] id honestly recommend something like `[[Ice Spicd|grah/span]]` [12:45:55] whats with you an ice spice... [12:47:34] put text on the button "click here" [12:49:22] what do you mean by that [12:50:43] it fucking worked [12:50:46] javascript ❤️ [12:51:35] I think it's not querying `/doc` subpages or something? [12:51:50] Writing my own php redirect function [12:55:40] Or javascript, or whatever you use there [12:57:21] I mean you could put the value from the template somewhere on the page you want to redirect and then use JS to actually redirect to another page but it would load the entire page content before the JS is actually executed [12:58:01] Also might cause problems since that is not really how Redirects are intended to be made and stuff like page previews or Special:WhatLinksHere will not work with the redirect [12:58:41] Very annoying, i need to be able to store different versions of articles [12:59:04] And would like the generic redirect to link to the latest version [12:59:48] Without having to edit every reditect to every article every time we have an update [13:02:15] Oh, it is. It's just DPL is bugged in MW 1.42-1.43: https://github.com/Universal-Omega/DynamicPageList3/issues/292 [13:03:23] instead of storing different versions you could also link to older revisions of the article [13:03:42] Its different game versions [13:03:59] Every major game version gets their own namespace [13:04:32] So mow i need my redirect to find the latest version namespace arrticle [13:04:36] do all of these redirects link to the same page? [13:04:53] No we have 90 articles [13:05:04] Will get about 200 in the end [13:05:28] so each article has multiple copies of it in separate namespaces? [13:05:31] trying to find its javascript [13:05:36] for each game version? [13:05:36] With each one getting mutiple versions in different namespaces and each needing a general redirect [13:05:45] Yes [13:06:00] Some more some less [13:06:06] why don't you just put the article for the latest version in the main namespace [13:06:24] Thats how we currently do it [13:06:26] or make a namespace alias (if that's possible on miraheze) like `Latest:` and point it to the latest game version [13:06:48] But i would like the main namespace link be the redirect [13:07:41] link each redirect in the main namespace to `Latest:` and then edit the namespace alias target for `Latest:` once the version changes [13:08:09] So latest is a global variable? [13:08:23] Where can i edit those? [13:08:41] Latest is a namespace alias (which is basically a namespace that redirects to another namespace), idk if you can edit those on miraheze [13:08:47] Also not all pages will have current version pages [13:09:00] Yes you can [13:09:04] I understand [13:09:28] This will still be a problem tho [13:10:21] redirect : to the latest existing version of the article i guess [13:10:51] That reduces the problem [13:10:59] are wikis loading slow for anyone else? [13:11:08] But a dynamic redirect would solve it entirely [13:11:16] Yes [13:11:33] ah [13:11:38] so it isnt only me [13:12:02] Mh are growing fast lately [13:52:24] Could someone tell me how to change the colour of my username like on Fandom? Thanks in advance. [13:55:12] Fandom lets you do that? [13:55:16] Also change where [13:55:19] [1/5] ```html [13:55:19] [2/5] a[href$="User:[YOUR USERNAME HERE]"{ [13:55:19] [3/5] color: red !important; [13:55:19] [4/5] } [13:55:20] [5/5] ```\ [13:55:23] they do [13:55:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1327999465801383998/image.png?ex=67851b61&is=6783c9e1&hm=5ad35db7d749f0294de725ea1bd65e399b470e782eb77c53b1094fe8e1dd5a9d& [13:57:27] with css [13:59:28] Already tried this [13:59:39] Will retry [13:59:50] ^^ [14:00:15] anyone know how to make things from dekstop look the same when viewed on mobile [14:00:25] [1/2] because uhhh [14:00:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328000619302223963/Screenshot_20250112_145130_Firefox.png?ex=67851c74&is=6783caf4&hm=950b447db615ddddffea350e3e1cab78db5b60639a7771552e26e7eb8ca54191& [14:00:51] media selectors might help [14:01:06] but this uses specific values [14:01:16] so like, i got fricking NO clue [14:02:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328001149747593286/No.PNG?ex=67851cf3&is=6783cb73&hm=ab765666f2393d783467be019bfa4288a88caaed03117fe0cfc9de469029dd00& [14:02:30] Seems fine? [14:02:50] yeah [14:02:58] idk how this will not work [14:04:00] I'll get back to you in a few minutes, but it doesn't look good [14:04:08] hmmm ok [14:06:32] No effect so far [14:08:49] In fact, this is all I can modify: [14:08:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328002774822158337/Okay.PNG?ex=67851e76&is=6783ccf6&hm=d8bc1900ab58fbae3f40def71d99addea97390147dcc80b3f77981b9194d38ec& [15:50:28] its miraheze in miraheze discord server [15:50:29] wow. [15:50:35] https://tenor.com/vhSqKZ8pIoL.gif [15:51:54] Xd [15:53:17] wow this is epic [15:53:59] Thank you lavoe:) [15:54:26] :pupCoffeeMH: :BanCatMH: [15:55:03] Wait no [15:56:12] But I’m out of coffee… [16:04:44] [1/2] can anyone help me add captions to this slideshow? took it from the fandom dev wiki [16:04:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328031918259830866/waterfox_Ed1jPGqI3F.gif?ex=6785399a&is=6783e81a&hm=95582f8bca8220bb2b0b0183c8f9bd338bc1bc83d9bc4d2672aaada65852535d& [16:31:25] u could probably just recreate it with css animations [17:17:31] can you have more than 1 mirazhe wiki?, ive been helping a fandom wiki but they want to move [17:19:58] Yeah [17:20:00] Just don’t go crazy [17:20:06] alrighty [17:20:15] i wanna help them move to miraheze but thats it [17:20:20] i dont have like 50 wikis lined up lmao [17:20:22] its just them haa [17:24:34] just sent it in your ai seems happy with it lmao [17:27:17] ai [17:27:31] artifical inteligente?!1?1?1?1?1? [17:27:33] [1/2] yeah look hes trying to pre approve me before the acutal staff lmao [17:27:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328052766693916854/image.png?ex=67854d05&is=6783fb85&hm=b0a43ff54c50f96e211daf1d03a75fd19d289a90bed76a2c3d77d15b04cdd559& [17:31:43] We’re trialing an AI reviewer in recommendation only mode because of the huge queue [17:32:25] i think ur ai is jumping the gun already haha [17:32:30] trying to take your job before its ready [17:32:39] How so? [17:32:44] read the end of the screenshot lol [17:32:57] Hm, weird misconfig maybe [17:33:01] maybe [17:33:26] https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-978532213316794273 [17:34:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328054507480813658/image.png?ex=67854ea4&is=6783fd24&hm=ee196efce683f854f2c4161c5243f91f17b924c0fff962582ac250c100c298d5& [17:34:40] Counter [17:34:44] we don’t get paid lmao [17:34:51] thats fair lol [17:35:20] if this can be at least as accurate as a human, having it take the easy requests so humans can handle the more complex ones is a win win [17:35:46] tbh with how it is rn i already have an idea how it can be abused to approve [17:35:55] like if u let it out rn out of just recommend [17:36:13] less burnout and pulling 3 hours review sprints, and we can calmly focus on giving sensitive topics consideration without worry for time [17:36:18] Do you wanna try? [17:36:28] i could give it a shot [17:36:35] You can register for mirabeta and file as many requests as you’d like [17:36:46] https://meta.mirabeta.org [17:37:03] is that like a test verision of the main one? [17:37:46] also i dont see a register button [18:01:46] That's the test version, yes. Looks like open registration has been locked down again, working on getting permissions re-added so I can onboard folks. [18:03:09] Please feel free to DM me the prompt in the meantime (or put it here) if you'd like me to test it against the model [18:03:16] registration has been restricted on mirabeta for a while now [18:03:26] Was lost when we reset [18:03:29] it was open a few days ago, weirdly [18:04:08] Beth pointed it to be a few days ago and i mentioned to rhinos [18:04:30] Ah, makes much more sense now [18:05:00] (I guess what I was trying to say is that the norm is for it to be restricted) [18:05:17] Yep, that was my understanding too, which is why I was surprised when it was open [18:05:23] if you give me your username on there I can give you the perms if you need them [18:05:32] Thought that had been a stance change, rather than a tech glitch [18:06:19] now mirabeta doesn't want to accept my password heh [18:06:44] Yep, both reception and myself need crat/steward/admin to handle onboarding. Oh no... I think your account got nuked in the reset too [18:07:36] Err, wait @reception123 needed global perms rather than local, I think. [18:08:07] Actually I mostly need wiki creator right now but I'll probably need tech/steward for future testing anyway [18:16:25] Well I gave you crat and admin, there's no user right on mirabeta that can give out wikicreator as far as I can see [18:16:52] Thanks, I can work w/ that [18:17:08] also gave myself steward to do that and can't give out steward how bizzare [18:23:48] heh I gave you global steward also [18:24:14] okay i gave you wc too and also reception [18:24:20] that should be all i think? lmk if different [18:24:57] Can I have perms too OA? [18:25:26] what you need [18:25:49] Admin + crat'll do [18:26:11] done [18:26:20] :) [18:26:53] can i have crat / wc on metabeta and test beta [18:28:08] Done meta [18:29:42] dinner time heh [18:30:21] Ye I need to make food too [18:31:02] i gotta clean my keyboard oh my [19:00:25] Got around this issue with Cargo (kinda like Star Citizen Wiki does with SMW already), and it seems to be working pretty well. [20:35:24] is there a list of all miraheze wikis with a custom domain (not on a .miraheze.org subdomain) [20:36:13] eatyourglory: what do you need it for [20:37:26] This file has a lot, not sure if it's all though https://github.com/miraheze/ssl/blob/master/certs.yaml [20:37:56] That should be all ye [20:38:02] My count says there's 679 [20:38:08] is it possible to delete a wiki you've been with from your centralauth page? [20:38:36] @eatyourglory nope [20:38:42] damn [20:38:46] oh well [20:55:58] don't worry about it if its not possible [21:30:33] people regularly like to at least wonder about it if they attach to something they don't want to affiliate with [22:01:28] [1/2] does everyone get this message? [22:01:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1328121698058244196/image.png?ex=67858d38&is=67843bb8&hm=62ef17f079a05c3fd564d78bff3c879fe5c9dbf57aaa50cba213baed655fcd97& [22:02:04] the message is hand delivered by people who are bothered to do that at a given time, which right now has been ro on a very large spree [22:02:13] oh nice [22:02:19] feels nicer knwoing its hand given [22:02:36] the actual message text is a template but yeah, posting is manual [22:02:39] fair [22:02:52] well when i can/ am allowed id love to help out your team [22:03:27] what would you be interested in working with [22:03:47] since your backlogs for wikis is huge id assume thats where you would need the help most [22:04:12] i have way to much time on my hands so if i can offer support id glady give it [22:04:38] that role comes down to a sturdy sense of judgement, familiarity with platform policy, and some collaborative skill/ability to defer depending on the issue [22:05:19] in your case I don't think the record is necessarily there to know off the bat, but it is still possible to demonstrate these things perhaps with a sufficiently strong request and if you were to work with someone more closely [22:05:40] yeah im still new to this community so i wouldnt expect to be just let in haha [22:06:09] well, it could be quick, it's just that the upfront requirement to demonstrate these things would be rather high and not assumed by experience [22:06:29] miraheze has several times set a precedent that people who have what it takes can rise very quickly despite being on the new or obscure side [22:06:46] subwayfares is an example who came in almost out of nowhere and became wiki creator rather quickly; that might be a useful request to review [22:06:52] thats nice you let people show theirselfs before juding [22:07:08] only way to know [22:07:44] unfortunately quite a few recent requests have been slapped in giving nothing at all to work with, so an attempt that does attempt to cover bases and does fit the minimum requirements would be taken serously [22:08:01] but again, the questioning would be heavy as it has to account for a lack of experience with your ways [22:08:29] it is less about you knowing all there is to know and more ability to adapt/reasonable line of judgement that can be fine tuned [22:08:37] yeah thats fair [22:10:01] i think just scrolling through that list of wikis waititng i already found an issue haha [22:14:51] there's some odd stuff in there [22:15:03] I mean to chomp at it tonight but it's looking more tenacious than I hoped [22:15:10] yeah i agree [22:15:23] tbh before now i do just go through the list and read some for fun lmao [22:15:26] see what people are up to [22:16:01] good to know what the market is up to, also good to think how you might approach them perhaps as examples [22:16:13] yeah true [22:40:37] Nice to see it is appreciated 🙂 [22:41:02] (I'm Ro by the way 😄 ) [22:41:47] nice to meet you [22:41:54] i think we spoke a few time here before [22:42:32] That's quite likely 🙂 I am just really bad with names, so I really don't remember [22:42:44] honestly im the same with names haha [22:47:33] When you see as many people as we do [22:47:34] expected [22:48:39] This [22:51:20] ngl i love the fact miraheze is a thing as i love wikis and wiriting pages but wikipedia is so strict [23:01:15] I mean what kind of stuff do you write [23:04:23] i love to do topics about micronations [23:04:35] ive done work on micro wiki, dove archives and now stretwiki [23:05:13] Noice [23:05:27] i also like to talk about my home country but [23:05:38] due to its dipstued status it gets alot of aurgements over it [23:06:27] My wikis are on mobile games :p [23:06:36] nice [23:07:08] Muriverse is on pc, but that one is still on the doc stage [23:07:13] fair [23:07:20] on a really random note [23:07:54] yk on tv shows when 2 chracters just kiss randomly because of a simple action but they are both taken why would they do that?, it never happens like that irl but in shows its 1 bit of affection and kiss [23:08:04] [1/2] 💤 [23:08:04] [2/2] 🛌🏻 [23:08:24] good night (if that is what your saying) [23:08:59] God nat, Sov godt! Good night! Sleep well! [23:09:15] (Danish) [23:09:34] nice Nos da [23:09:39] (Cornish) [23:19:50] Is there a bot/automated way to mass-optimize PNG files on a wiki? Is it even recommended to do/not do so? [23:47:31] hi