[00:00:04] Has anyone managed to get the AI to do something it shouldn't based on biasing? [00:00:11] Sounds like an interesting way to get something denied [00:00:30] my pc will explode if i ran that many tabs [00:00:42] rip [00:00:53] 4gigs will kill itself [00:00:55] i movved to linux yesterday and my pc feels so much faster [00:00:58] bro I have like 25 Miraheeze tabs right now [00:01:06] my PC is running perfectly line [00:01:11] Claire also did a ton of testing on the early models on beta so makes sense [00:01:13] NASA Supercomputer according to me [00:01:17] Are you using an actual potato or what [00:01:31] well cpu aint bad but ram is [00:01:35] 4gigs ddr3 [00:01:42] We did a bunch of stuff on beta which has mostly been, uh, wiped [00:01:46] 1600mhz [00:01:48] sad [00:01:49] well I'mn literally hearing my computer's fan turning [00:01:49] I think most of those were fixed [00:01:55] So yeah it's taking the hits [00:02:34] this has been your regular reminder that i have trauma from data loss [00:02:34] o7 [00:02:34] Amen [00:02:46] Is there a way to see what prompt you guys are using? Or has that been intentionally left private [00:02:50] [1/2] well linux to my pc [00:02:50] [2/2] "LINUX WOULDN'T ADD "RAM" TO YOUR PC" 🗣️ 🔥 (I hid a reference here) [00:02:54] So are the Templates there just for you to steal the source code? [00:03:07] Yeah basically [00:03:20] here's my list for my tests pre-mirabeta wipe: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:BlankEclair/AI_draft?oldid=444412 [00:03:21] <.labster, replying to dullbird173> rookie numbers [00:03:27] 😔 [00:03:41] Private yes [00:03:45] 35 would be more correct [00:03:48] just recounted [00:03:51] bro actually borrowed NASA Supercomputer [00:03:52] We are open to testing though [00:04:10] Talk to someone with an account on Mirabeta to get an account and test all you want [00:04:16] <.labster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329602153668411402/image.png?ex=678af000&is=67899e80&hm=fef22dd5901e1768a1854f9e2ef974fad439c2cca4646bb976131339f2a3f203& [00:04:33] 🙏 [00:04:45] jesus [00:04:58] how many does one person need [00:05:08] <.labster> Firefox tends to get more unstable around 1600 tabs. Or with one Jira tab open overnight. Either way. [00:05:12] praying for bro [00:05:12] i know people in the thousands [00:05:17] my pc will result in explosion comparable to 500 crore times more powerful than tsar bomba [00:05:17] Hm [00:05:24] if i do that [00:05:28] @cosmicalpha what’s your open tab average [00:05:30] can i ask what this relay thing is? [00:05:31] why would one need to talk through an app [00:05:38] ? [00:05:38] You’re horrifying in every other metric [00:05:40] ah, irc [00:05:42] irc to discord its cool [00:05:46] oh whats irc? [00:05:48] Referring to the app tag on bots [00:05:52] [[IRC]] [00:05:53] [00:05:56] thanks [00:05:59] [[w:Internet Relay Chat]] [00:06:00] [00:06:01] <.labster> Internet Relay Chat. It's like Discord but 30 years older. [00:06:04] ancient chatting method still used today [00:06:23] is there a revolt bridge here too? [00:06:27] No [00:06:28] did most Gen Z learn CSS from MySpace? [00:06:28] aw [00:06:31] i love revolt [00:06:35] or at least that's what I think it is [00:06:43] btw any matrix space? [00:06:46] I’m Gen Z and MySpace is well before my time [00:06:48] nope :( [00:06:52] Not for Miraheze [00:06:58] ive heard of myspace never used it# [00:07:00] Oh I probably meant Millennials and late Gen Z [00:07:00] MySpace never used internet back then [00:07:07] what [00:07:21] brotha i got access to internet in 2015 [00:07:25] <.labster> Yeah, you had to walk into a MySpace store to see the profiles. [00:07:27] i love the sounds and looks of the old internet [00:07:32] Same [00:07:36] Retro is fun [00:07:40] I use IRC myself sometimes [00:07:44] :3 [00:07:44] before that i just got access sometimes [00:07:51] like with my uncles vista laptop [00:07:53] And always loved terminal [00:08:02] its amazing how far we have come icl [00:08:14] Nooooo [00:08:18] After so long it happens [00:08:25] Discord removed my active dev badge [00:08:26] technology is advancing 😔 [00:08:27] i think we just need to stop at ai lmao [00:08:36] rip [00:08:43] you could just buy some badges [00:08:45] zad [00:08:52] No ew [00:08:52] i just saw you use crore and 2015 is sorta around when Jio came in so let me guesss - India? [00:08:53] Gross [00:08:57] i dont mean from discord [00:09:04] I have that badge because I’m an actual developer [00:09:04] use gen ai to forumulate an email so that the receiver can use gen ai to summarise said email [00:09:05] i mean from supporting the devs of ven [00:09:06] i am bangladeshi lmao [00:09:07] what's badges [00:09:13] ehh, close enough [00:09:14] Oh, fair [00:09:20] real [00:09:25] Easier solution: pipe to /dev/null [00:09:33] :thumbsup: [00:09:37] :thumbsup: [00:09:45] <.labster> I saw the name Ashley and I briefly was hoping Jack Phoenix had joined our chat. [00:09:48] I'm still wondering how Islam jumped to Bangladesh [00:10:01] <.labster, replying to dullbird173> Mughals [00:10:02] merchant [00:10:11] i dont think i get the refrence 😭 [00:10:12] by Sri Lanka right? [00:10:13] nah way before that times [00:10:22] hmm alot of places [00:10:23] He’s a member of the Mediawiki development community [00:10:27] ohh i see [00:10:32] <.labster, replying to ashley.cornwall> He's an extension developer and guy with Shoutwiki [00:10:39] the only Ashley I can think off is Co- [REDACTED] [00:10:43] til that ashley is unisex [00:10:43] Or what’s left of it [00:10:51] islam reached here 14th century somehow [00:11:14] (Okay I have to admit that keeps popping into my mind too) [00:11:19] oh i remember [00:11:23] ed* [00:11:29] i need an anti-horny hammer [00:11:31] is it possible to have a different home page for different wiki skins? [00:11:56] it was turco-afghan forces that islam reached indian subcontinent [00:12:14] iirc Mughals also played a huge role right [00:12:21] <.labster, replying to eatyourglory> Probably? I'd have to know exactly what you mean by that. [00:12:32] well they were later power in the 17th century [00:12:33] because they're Chogatai iirc = Central Asia = Muslim (at least nowadays and for the most part) [00:12:48] I will keep an eye out once I am a WikiReviewer next week [00:12:58] mughal means mongol lmao [00:13:14] > [17/01/2025 11:11] is it possible to have a different home page for different wiki skins? [00:13:17] What happened to the wikis taht got hit by the Database 451 (or whatever) failure [00:13:26] did they get vanished completely [00:13:27] <.labster> It does, the Mughals called themselves Gurkani, the sons-in-law (of Genghis Khan) [00:13:33] eatyourglory: the easiest way is to have separate home pages all in one page, and use css to show only one of them [00:13:35] Backups [00:13:39] Mongols reached as far as Belarus [00:13:56] everyone invaded crimea [00:13:57] And their empire included Central Asia [00:14:03] my back is killing me [00:14:07] everyone hates crimea ahh moment [00:14:14] from korea to crimea [00:14:55] [1/2] they went full conquest and conquer [00:14:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329604832490950666/clj64siubeqz.png?ex=678af27e&is=6789a0fe&hm=b51b8cfad1a0b0a8909e75e2e2d3f799150f3fca63d3faba0c311c58c4737777& [00:14:56] <.labster, replying to kingplaystation> Yep, at one time Crimea was known as New England because Anglos leaving England after the Normal Conquest were given permission by the Roman Emperor to establish a vassal state in Crimea. [00:15:17] What's MOGAI [00:15:32] Holy Roman Emperor right [00:15:46] i see [00:15:53] <.labster, replying to dullbird173> No, emperor of the Romans, in Byzantium. [00:15:56] history is weird [00:15:57] they were germanic lmao [00:15:57] Marginalized Orientations, Gender Alignments and Intersex [00:16:05] Roman LARP'ers [00:16:11] that weren't even LARP'ing Romans [00:16:18] That's a name I haven't heard in years... [00:16:25] and by years I mean like 6 months [00:16:36] damn we went full history here [00:16:42] aligns with my wiki topic [00:16:44] lmao [00:16:47] didn't said emperor die for good 2 centuries later [00:17:04] is Aceistan fictional country LARP [00:17:14] <.labster> Nogai is another horde: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nogai_Horde [00:17:36] [1/2] indeed [00:17:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329605504913117269/Globe.png?ex=678af31f&is=6789a19f&hm=717f8d74a61b9bcbe151294b32f8e84ef25e57468da5051a89f84f34f9c74d31& [00:17:46] what is this abomination [00:18:06] well thats what our community of 3k members made [00:18:21] <.labster, replying to dullbird173> The roman empire ended in 1453 when the Ottomans finally took Constantinople, which is after things like Charlemangne and the War of the Roses. [00:18:28] gahh that has like 4 ethnicites alone [00:18:35] 3k goodness gracious how the hell [00:18:36] Does a civil war happen every week [00:18:42] I didn't realize country stuff was that popular [00:18:51] alot in "alt history" yea [00:18:58] there's an entire genre of RP called Nation Roleplay [00:19:04] i'm here just sipping my metaphorical drink as i watch but don't read this conversation [00:19:08] well what about this [00:19:11] We should take this to #offtopic [00:19:19] Yeah I didn't realize it was popular enough for 3k people on one wiki [00:19:23] why are you hiding behind a MirahezeRelay [00:19:25] Actually yeah we move to off topic [00:19:33] #offtopic [00:19:35] IRC is better than Discord trust me [00:19:37] left door hallway [00:19:42] <.labster, replying to dullbird173> William the Conqueror was 1066, the end of the Eastern Roman empire was 1453. [00:20:14] well recent one is Jiteshistani Revolt and Khalistani Yogist Separatist KYS (creative name fr) [00:20:21] We should take this to #offtopic [00:20:28] yea for sure [00:20:51] * Thank you! [00:20:58] sorry for inconvenience though [00:32:16] I am off... 💤 [00:40:13] do the custom themes you make using themetoggle have classes> [00:42:45] Yes [00:54:48] <_mana_> [1/3] anyone know why the site notice when not logged in doesn't show on Main Page but does for other pages? maybe its just on my end? [00:54:48] <_mana_> [2/3] https://hardcoded.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:54:48] <_mana_> [3/3] https://hardcoded.miraheze.org/wiki/Cadence [01:17:16] can i ask what your wiki is about [01:17:18] it looks cool [01:24:51] > [17/01/2025 11:54] <_mana_> [1/3] anyone know why the site notice when not logged in doesn't show on Main Page but does for other pages? maybe its just on my end? [01:24:56] _mana_: likely answer is blame caching [01:27:50] <_mana_> i purged the cache and now its working >.< so simple oops, i swore i tried that [01:28:36] <_mana_, replying to ashley.cornwall> ty ty, its about the cyberpunk dating-sim hardcoded, its pretty niche but the style is great. if one is into that type of game [01:28:51] huh, didn't know that the caching was on your end [01:28:58] oh well, it works now :3 [01:29:56] oh nice, im not into those sorta games but your wiki looks cool asf [01:35:09] Is this that one robot game? [01:38:44] <_mana_> the protag is a robot, so i think ur thinking of the same game [01:45:04] Ah [01:45:04] Neat [01:46:35] It is [01:46:40] Found where I was thinking of it [01:46:42] Gl with your wiki [02:31:47] Interesting combination of concepts :hm: [02:31:56] Anyways, wikis on niches are great [03:23:43] Button wiki when [03:25:41] Probably about 1500-2000 on my phone (my PC browsers can't handle it as much lol) [03:47:31] Nice to see you’re living up to your reputation [03:55:21] [1/2] does this have a option for me to put cornish? [03:55:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329660308955861105/image.png?ex=678b2629&is=6789d4a9&hm=1e0be37e150deaf283ae9e4be4640796eeec9e977e3a6ae38316d01c2770b86e& [03:55:26] if i wanted it on my own profile [03:56:40] Is there a language code for it [03:56:42] if so, tru [03:56:52] im pretty sure its KW [03:56:58] MediaWiki typically just takes from the standard language codes [03:57:33] one question [03:57:37] how do i add it to my profile [04:04:06] this thingy is provided by Babel extension, then you need to either use the function directly on make a template [04:04:22] if you talk about Meta Wiki it's all already there [04:04:31] yeah im trying to do it on the main website [04:05:16] i only see babel end and babel letsgo [04:05:32] you check code on other users' pages [04:05:41] [[User:Legroom]] [04:05:42] [04:05:49] wait, I'm stupid lol [04:05:59] [[login:User:Legroom]] [04:06:00] [04:06:04] huh [04:06:06] okay [04:08:09] [1/2] i put KW but its reverting tto en [04:08:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329663529657176074/image.png?ex=678b2929&is=6789d7a9&hm=6756bdfea7d7ad16e3c61a3b9e5b406e3b527613b2a398772a953f88634da78a& [04:08:30] nvm got it [04:08:31] check the language code table just in case [04:08:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329663658414051368/image.png?ex=678b2948&is=6789d7c8&hm=80169b6eb76e3e7e0565d170c959b27822999d8308512585c5aeb88fdd6d809f& [04:09:20] [1/2] there we go [04:09:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329663826949308469/image.png?ex=678b2970&is=6789d7f0&hm=5598b40406ab2dc352f5df0c0fb775afb0b3a1754713d37389122c7635276d3c& [04:09:22] thanks [04:10:27] Hey how is everyone? [04:10:35] good u [04:10:57] I cant sleep so I'm just chilling [04:11:01] fair [04:11:09] Its like 4:11am here [04:11:45] same [04:11:52] I'm from the UK [04:11:56] Yeah [04:12:22] same [04:17:14] You guys hurt you know that ? Saw your discussion and looked at the time... 5:17am [04:18:41] Hm? [04:18:52] The joy of being up late XD [04:18:59] Sorry been a while since I was active here 😅 [04:19:56] the nighttimne is my daytime tbh [04:21:39] hey man [04:22:00] 👋🏼 [04:22:14] woo [04:23:01] [1/2] Your discussion also made me think of doing the user page on the Mira wiki, so you have my language if needed 🙂 (hope its done right) [04:23:01] [2/2] [05:16:34] i'm begging someone to please make portable infoboxes a direct feature in VE "insert" [05:36:30] eh? You can import templates directly into VE as well as you can edit PI in VE too [05:38:41] You need to make your PI as template so you can edit PI in VE [05:41:09] If you want to really edit portable infoboxes in VE, you may need templatedata extension [05:41:33] ^I mean make the PI usable for other users when they edit in VE [05:44:39] Little question, someone here use DataMaps ? I wanted to use Kartographer but doesn't seem to be the one I'm looking for so wanted to try DataMaps but can't find a proper documentation (unless I'm blind) [05:46:18] admin experience is "you are not a user w/ user tools anymore, you are making things for users" [05:46:31] Nvm can't even seem to be able to enable it XD [05:58:24] I'm still up [06:00:29] Its 6am now [07:08:42] could someone help do a simple edit for me [07:10:02] happy to help [07:10:49] so i imported a template and its all working just i need to swap out some text to make it make sense i would do it myself but i dont have my glasses on so im a bit usesless with source editor atm [07:11:43] [1/2] so this is what i imported but i just need to change the text to This page contains information about an ongoing event [07:11:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329709724760932424/image.png?ex=678b542f&is=678a02af&hm=31d4d2b84ef2658691eeb30a283c03864b5e673507c4705689815a12d66d95f0& [07:11:47] if its not too much of a bother ofc [07:12:05] what page? [07:12:09] https://www.stret.org/wiki/Template:ONG [07:13:14] [1/2] good? [07:13:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329710108200009812/Screenshot_2025-01-16_at_11.13.11_PM.png?ex=678b548a&is=678a030a&hm=eb4f831b2b8ef2dc493ba826c3a2e9f260a4d6dd94a1d381cbebc56395859989& [07:13:29] yeah thats perfect thank you [07:13:39] oh you can approve changes yourself too? [07:13:58] oh didnt see your other role lmao [07:14:04] I'm a global admin for Miraheze, heh [07:14:16] thanks for your help [07:14:16] I'm probably empowered on moderation globally [07:14:22] of course! happy to assist [07:14:29] feel free to reach out if you need anything else [07:14:35] thanks [07:14:49] there is one thing i do need help on but its a little more complex [07:15:11] if it's template-related complexity, i'm not as well versed in that [07:15:19] i think its an infobox [07:15:21] but always happy to see what the issue is and direct you to the correct person [07:15:23] [1/2] its like this [07:15:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329710645637025804/image.png?ex=678b550a&is=678a038a&hm=efd60cf2c729c2e86531f245212dac816af7a38a3923e9900dfd7748f53f818e& [07:15:27] example from dove archives [07:15:31] i need to make election boxes [07:15:43] ah, yeah, that's not my area of expertise [07:15:48] ah okay [07:15:57] infoboxes are just a nightmare haha [07:15:57] if you create a ticket in #support, someone will likely be able to help [07:16:06] o yea i forgot about that chat lmao [07:16:12] +1, can't tell ya how much trouble i've had with them [07:39:16] bump [07:39:26] bump [07:42:59] boop :3 [07:49:54] not judging but what is this [07:50:03] an election box [07:50:09] no no [07:50:18]  c a n d i d a t e s  [07:50:28] is this a world where there's only anime girls? [07:50:40] they didnt want to share their real faces [07:51:12] is this a fictional election [07:51:19] no [07:51:22] or a community one that just used anime girls [07:51:23] its for the micronation [07:51:44] well does cornwall have corn [07:51:54] and does it have a wall? [08:50:06] [1/3] how do i move the themetoggle menu to the citizen sidebar settings [08:50:07] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329734484341293168/Screenshot_2025-01-17-16-49-38-32_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=678b6b3e&is=678a19be&hm=30a43e2b4487836c16ccf3af304fe4fb39defaa81e8307e712dec513c1892b0b& [08:50:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329734484655996979/Screenshot_2025-01-17-16-49-50-91_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=678b6b3e&is=678a19be&hm=a18715782643d702976109bb9aad3f25ea3acf6be5be39a803b59991c7e7f010& [08:54:13] this is miraheze?? [08:54:24] yep [08:55:56] miraheze is a such a pain in the butt to look cool [08:56:17] also why sit eh Special:InfoboxBuilder taking YEARS to load [08:56:26] have u tried refreshing [08:56:33] or used Special:PortableInfoboxBuilder [08:57:43] wait [08:57:44] i heart miraheze for their customizability [08:57:45] i'm dumb [08:57:57] i did not give a reason and Miraheze didn't confirm the save button]] [08:58:04] this is a bruh moment [08:58:06] lmao [09:03:17] so pi's are essentailyl just blank out for you to fill later right> [09:03:34] they work the same like fandoms [09:04:06] i have never edited on fandom [09:04:11] that place sucks [09:07:31] gosh i hate miraheze and it's complexity [09:07:39] it's the only thing I dislike about it [09:07:41] its not complex [09:07:50] i'm a newbie [09:07:53] they've tried to simplify it as much as possible [09:08:05] where you dont have to edit the php [09:08:34] the what [09:09:04] for self hosted wikis one file controls everything(? dont quote me tho) [09:10:39] i'm gonna become a villain if I have to read one more stupid guide /hj [09:18:09] what does the page name do [09:18:11] Read, read, read mister ... I have loads of guids for you 9n WikiBooks 😉🤭 [09:18:28] WHAT DOES A HEADER DO [09:18:34] I'M LOSING MY MIND [09:19:46] Depends on what header you are referring to. And please do not shout [09:20:03] infobox header [09:21:01] [1/2] Managed to get it working, sadly many functions simply don't work, tho to be fair it's Beta but the lack of documentation makes it far worse since no idea how to setup at first. [09:21:02] [2/2] Anyway, night everyone. 🙂 [09:22:12] i'm just gonna type whatever and hope it works [09:22:41] It refers to the top box and gives the name you want. [09:23:04] i'm making a country template so like the name of the country? [09:23:45] Yes. [09:24:15] should i just yeet the page name thing [09:24:31] but the page name would be the common name [09:25:32] Pagename will take the name from the page you are on. Indeed [09:26:51] Alright I'm keeping it [09:27:03] How do you Mirahezans deal with this [09:27:21] My amateur brain cannot comprehend such complexity /hj [09:31:26] [1/2] I learned by trial and error. But really I did learn it from WikiBooks actually. [09:31:27] [2/2] https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Help:Editing [09:32:13] ... [09:32:17] And by looking on other wiki pages that already had an infobox [09:32:27] See how it worked there [09:32:35] yeah if New York gets destroyed next week it's your fault ||/j|| [09:33:03] I take full responsibility 😄 [09:33:30] hey wanna join the wiki [09:33:40] We have on Acestani guy, me and that's about it [09:44:46] What's it about? [09:44:50] Link? [12:13:00] bad gateway [12:13:38] Aware [12:13:54] alright [12:19:54] "let us know" leads to static-help.miraheze.org which isnt a valid wiki btw [12:25:43] [1/2] Is this latest bad gateway issue known at present? [12:25:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329788745721053305/image.png?ex=678b9dc7&is=678a4c47&hm=fe1adcb611c896c68a209914aff6aa86caebfda77ae914897fa1dd8c3d1f8c91& [12:26:01] yea [12:26:29] about my own personal world. it's a mess rn but I promise it's gonna be such a good rabbit hole later down the line https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [12:26:32] oh god [12:26:37] i've had like 7 of these now [12:26:52] Yeah that always confused me [12:26:52] it's been hours and I still can't even make a portable infobox [12:26:54] getting a bunch of bad gateways rn [12:26:55] So this is not just me [12:27:05] what do you mean this is the easiest option [12:27:15] this is MY screenshot [12:27:18] anyways epic [12:27:34] what is bro doing [12:27:44] well unless you pull a fisch and that is making divs after divs [12:27:44] please for the love of GOD someone help me [12:27:51] with what 😭 [12:27:58] THE TEXT WON'T LOAD [12:28:01] portableinfoboxes are easy lol [12:28:02] let me show you [12:28:04] ? [12:28:22] graghhh [12:28:28] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Arcadia [12:28:28] grah [12:28:32] source code [12:28:34] what is dawg on 🙏 😭 [12:28:41] i sused a reference image to help me [12:28:51] [1/2] i call this vector 2025 [12:28:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329789532371025921/image.png?ex=678b9e82&is=678a4d02&hm=adae2ca6f3b942fe5cd8d8a8685962b811f566349900a2a1008e121522fafed0& [12:28:54] i already typed the stuff in edit source but the text is not appearing [12:28:56] aint nothing loading [12:29:02] what [12:29:13] yeah Miraheze is getting cooked rn [12:29:24] or did I be dumb and set the skin to something stupid [12:29:48] i dont even know what your problem is [12:30:25] miraheze is dying rn [12:30:33] lemme wait a bit for it to load [12:31:07] [1/3] parameters dont match the parameters on the arcadia page [12:31:07] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329790102305636374/Screenshot_2025-01-17-20-29-54-28_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=678b9f0a&is=678a4d8a&hm=e7ad245f602b5220b108088879926f7b2832770b26c765df837892583637383a& [12:31:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329790103001759856/Screenshot_2025-01-17-20-30-29-62_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=678b9f0a&is=678a4d8a&hm=ae93d066659ae33b876d686899a57f677e875d04e154c4b7c840da942b8a82dd& [12:31:26] ohhhh [12:31:33] ... [12:31:41] please don't tell me I have to redo the entire template [12:31:44] THAT TOOK ME 2 HOURS [12:31:48] just replace em [12:31:49] example is like `|data20 = grah`, not `|Currency = grah` [12:31:53] just change it [12:31:56] why would you redo it [12:32:01] i used portable infoboxes [12:32:02] you and icespice these days... [12:32:08] and I don't think I can change it [12:32:14] `` to `` [12:32:18] wdym??? [12:32:27] ???? what r u on about [12:32:33] I just spawned here [12:32:35] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/Template:Country?action=edit [12:32:39] edit [12:32:46] oh [12:32:54] dude just change the parameters ^^^ [12:32:57] I need some reading skills I'm dumb [12:33:02] will try to [12:33:10] https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-stan-twitter-homer-simpson-rain-gif-25606317 [12:33:10] but it's taking years to load- [12:33:13] ohh it just loaded [12:33:18] is this even a good time to ask for help [12:33:21] while its down [12:33:29] [1/2] my icons... [12:33:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329790698651648050/image.png?ex=678b9f98&is=678a4e18&hm=8f03fb3f74e8180719cdac3d8ac7c9be3f3fc16195443014549c397ad15ce857& [12:33:30] they're.. [12:33:32] not down for me [12:33:36] it's just super slow [12:33:37] THEY'RE GONE MY ICONS ARE GONE!!! [12:33:41] it will [12:33:47] mine's not loading either [12:33:53] [1/2] When I was looking at a page on Countryballwiki, a warning screen like this appeared. [12:33:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329790798899974215/Screenshot_2025-01-17-21-31-38-002.jpg?ex=678b9fb0&is=678a4e30&hm=f3958cc3058ef2bbabe20ec2de013ba5e93a7bc1cb03ecd6da6c3442243b7e5b& [12:33:54] oh its down alr [12:34:04] because down [12:34:15] wait what's parameters [12:34:27] I saw it on the editing screen when making the infobox but didn't really pay attention to it [12:34:33] [1/2] the thing in `source=""` [12:34:33] [2/2] `` to `` [12:34:34] did you just leak your ip or am i dumb [12:34:43] oh [12:34:46] so just data source? [12:34:53] theyre things you use for a template [12:34:55] yea [12:35:00] thank god [12:35:05] somehow miraheze is still alive for mne [12:35:12] but my compuer's fan is turning like crazy [12:35:36] yoooo delete your message you just leaked ur ip [12:36:22] WHERE'S SUPRESSION WHEN YOU NEED IT [12:36:26] ip addresses are always public anyway :shrug: [12:36:39] huh [12:36:45] why are you screaming chill [12:36:50] sorry [12:36:52] bad habit [12:37:13] @snowstacked tf is 🍘 for??? [12:37:34] no STOP!.... [12:37:34] this is the unofficial logo of TM (my world) now [12:37:35] pls [12:37:45] r i c e c r a c k e r [12:38:33] If multiple reasonable people reasonably ask you to stop doing something - stop it. [12:38:49] [1/3] i am back [12:38:49] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329792040229146705/Screenshot_2025-01-17-21-38-09-440.jpg?ex=678ba0d8&is=678a4f58&hm=b6f5615060e11a859e1c34d71d8c4805708042057b47738615fb74fbf60a2710& [12:38:49] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329792040636125256/Screenshot_2025-01-17-21-38-17-185.jpg?ex=678ba0d8&is=678a4f58&hm=2747a61f509c8495e3e7bdc96fc839ba9f6e7f53f494635dc1d0ab260c2b79af& [12:39:14] nice colors [12:39:59] where are people getting these fandom looking style wikis from [12:40:13] the cosmos skin [12:40:27] i am foreign born [12:40:33] cosmos skin? [12:40:43] i out that. In extensions [12:40:45] no its only 2 people lol [12:40:49] but nothing ever happened [12:41:10] because you didn't set it as the default skin/change in your customization preferences [12:41:35] oh [12:50:08] cosmos [13:04:05] Outage is over by the way and we know the cause [13:04:15] For those that got bad gateway errors [13:10:35] It should be static.help.wikitide.net [13:10:51] I can't see where that comes from though [13:13:55] [1/2] it's present in an outdated fork of the ErrorPages repo so maybe the error pages haven't been updated [13:13:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329800872695435314/image.png?ex=678ba912&is=678a5792&hm=dae4623907764891b2ccfefaba76a58a18981ac68db1985330c23a8d60ab52e6& [13:14:07] was fixed here https://github.com/miraheze/ErrorPages/commit/b958621fe0caba777e5f73376697bccd9bc74fe3 [13:15:01] It looks fine in cf preview [13:15:11] So must be mw* nginx [13:15:16] Or something [13:15:51] yeah [13:16:54] I've asked someone to check [13:17:01] GitHub looks fine and so does cf [13:19:51] yo can the data source have spaces [13:19:57] i'm making a portable infobox [13:21:42] nah just found out myself - no [13:26:32] congrats [13:33:52] > [18/01/2025 00:19] yo can the data source have spaces [13:33:55] it should be possible actually [13:37:19] https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Sandbox/Infobox_with_data_source_space [13:46:37] We looked and ye we have no idea [13:47:28] The correct link if we're offline is https://static.help.wikitide.net [13:48:04] i honestly expected it to be on the github subdomain [13:48:15] because isn't it for when we're really fucked and stuff is down? [13:48:17] The correct link is https://help.static.wikitide.net [13:48:26] i- [13:48:27] wow [13:48:29] okay then [13:48:41] BlankEclair: heavily fucked but not fucked enough that we've lost dns [13:48:46] More like wikis are down [13:48:56] https://help.static.wikitide.net/tech-docs/techcloudflare/ [13:49:00] i sure love the monospace text [13:49:01] There is a GitHub repo with it in [13:49:05] at least the UI is fancy, i like that [13:49:23] am i being too harsh? ^^; [13:49:41] It's a disaster resilience tool [13:49:45] Not a work of art [13:50:07] i wouldn't expect black on black though [13:50:49] You can submit a patch [13:51:19] oh, my fucking god, it's because i had js disabled [13:52:52] https://files.catbox.moe/unb48b.png; no way, scp [14:10:23] why do i see so many people working for WMDE lol [14:20:24] What I mis [14:20:53] Germans [14:21:04] wow [14:21:17] i also love the claire internal wiki experience lol [14:23:00] https://files.catbox.moe/7w01zx.png [14:24:23] It's been 5 hours since I started [14:24:31] and I still haven't figured out portable infoboxes [14:24:40] please stop this madness* [14:26:04] <.guardianx., replying to BlankEclair> BlankEclair, totally unrelated but I wish that page descriptions could be told to ingest information from a info box or any formatted content via variable >< [14:26:20] page descriptions? [14:26:35] huhuhu... [14:26:36] <.guardianx.> Yeah the stuff for embeds [14:26:52] <.guardianx.> like your test page just shows as a "." [14:27:01] oh [14:27:07] as in uhh og:description? [14:27:17] from an infobox should be possible [14:27:23] <.guardianx.> I guess, I don't know enough how it works to say for certain [14:27:57] <.guardianx.> I was just using and trying to use wikiSEO for doing it via {{#seo: description:Blah}} [14:28:26] <.guardianx.> but you can't pass variables to that [14:28:52] sorry for interrupting but can someone please help me. https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Country. I have been suffering for the last 5 hours on and off and I'm just done with trying to reconfigure it [14:30:20] .guardianx.: what about https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:BlankEclair/Sandbox/Infobox_with_data_source_space?meow [14:30:51] can someone just do it for me i beg you [14:31:07] i have been losing my mind over this and have asked 7 times atp [14:31:19] trying... [14:31:26] thank you [14:31:42] modqueued [14:32:07] what's modqueqe [14:32:09] <.guardianx.> BlankEclair, you know as I was typing out to you about the seo stuff I was having a shower thought moment of "I wonder if SEO can go at the bottom of a page" [14:32:22] lmao, you're welcome [14:32:28] dullbird173: oops, i meant the moderation extension [14:32:34] my edit is currently up for moderation [14:32:37] <.guardianx.> indeed thank you! LoL [14:32:58] whar [14:33:04] what? [14:33:11] i'm new to miraheze so do you mean like [14:33:26] oh [14:33:28] let me see [14:33:50] thanks [14:33:53] you enabled the moderation extension, so all edits from most users are up for review [14:34:17] please tell me it works [14:34:34] i swear if that arcadia article doesn't- [14:35:04] New York is getting destroyed next week [14:35:07] it technically does [14:35:23] though the data sources don't line up except for the image, so that's why there's only that [14:35:51] well if it doesn't work [14:35:58] i'm doing america a favor [14:36:02] hm? [14:36:06] destroy the rat epidemic once and for all [14:36:28] don't you DARE hurt jocelyn,,, (/j) [14:36:41] who's Jocelyn [14:36:46] JoJo? [14:36:54] Jocelyn Samara DiDomenick [14:37:00] uh [14:37:01] your resident trans rat [14:37:05] you're the rain person right [14:37:14] yeah [14:37:20] lemme see [14:37:24] https://mis.thecomicseries.com/comics/154/ [14:37:27] please god please god please god [14:38:03] Bro how are you still struggling 😭😭 [14:38:17] YES [14:38:18] Y7ESSS [14:38:20] yes [14:38:23] it works! [14:38:27] holy moly [14:38:31] you're welcome <3 [14:38:32] I have been trying for 7 years atp [14:38:43] Oh god [14:38:53] Creating another one of these is gonna be HELL [14:38:53] why does my trans ass read atp as stp [14:39:05] how do you mirahezans deal with this [14:39:20] i'm an expert computer toucher, but i don't think i'm the average mirahezian [14:39:58] fancy words to say non-grass toucher ?j [14:40:12] i can show you a picture of grass a few days ago [14:40:22] no Mirahezian touches grass [14:40:26] I don’t know if there is an average [14:40:35] average is usually the fandom user [14:40:37] i think? [14:40:44] actually [14:40:45] Eh [14:40:49] It jumped 20% this year alone [14:40:49] there's technically an @avghelper [14:40:52] @dullbird173 what part were you even struggling with [14:40:56] 1/5 of us rn are former fandom users [14:41:00] parameters [14:41:07] parameters in infoboxes [14:41:11] In what way [14:41:23] i didn't know why it didn't work [14:41:26] and every fix was useless [14:41:34] i just gave up until now [14:41:40] I mean [14:41:46] Did you read docs? [14:41:56] in this case, it was malformed xml [14:42:03] duplicate closing tags [14:42:03] i did read the guide [14:42:17] But it was using like 7000 terms and I just gave up [14:42:20] Damn so that's why it wasn't work [14:42:31] i still have trauma [14:42:39] > [18/01/2025 01:40] i can show you a picture of grass a few days ago [14:42:43] on second thought, that might doxx me [14:42:45] no thx [14:42:47] It aint that big of a deal [14:42:49] Chill [14:42:50] please tell someone to make infobox an insert feature I beg you [14:42:58] You have far worse things to worry about [14:43:13] do you think everybody here is rainbolt [14:43:20] rainbolt? [14:43:21] well the Chinese Agent is going away but still [14:43:22] wdym [14:43:24] as in a rain beau? [14:43:40] geoguessr guy who can guess something from just a blurry image [14:43:47] A geoguesser youtuber [14:43:49] i'm paranoid :p [14:43:52] sometimes he even guesses correctly before it even loads [14:43:57] can i show a funny picture of blahaj in these trying times? [14:44:21] i swear if there's anything harder than infoboxes- [14:44:33] trying to understand the internals of the mediawiki parser [14:44:43] There is [14:44:46] i spent like uhh 20m trying to do that [14:44:47] For sure there is [14:45:02] Dawg infoboxes are the easy ones LOL [14:46:03] okay, i can show a picture of grass [14:46:06] dated 2025-01-03 [14:46:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329824134703874181/2Q.png?ex=678bbebc&is=678a6d3c&hm=c20c2a01f78cc460859676098febc126e6056c4ce6f4146bc9928bf18d0bd525& [14:46:29] https://files.catbox.moe/8zjgo4.jpg [14:48:04] i don't know U.S copyright [14:48:15] wait wdym [14:48:17] so can I yank images off of DeviantArt if I provide the link [14:48:27] legally or technically [14:48:31] and the creator doesn't say anything about propertyu [14:48:53] whar [14:49:03] are we talking in the legal or technical sense [14:49:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329824824918409216/9k.png?ex=678bbf61&is=678a6de1&hm=a736ee93c70346ca428f4c78ca0d9ac6f4afdfc3eb8be65e07d475368827a0d7& [14:49:17] the latter i can infodump about [14:49:21] the former i can try to talk about [14:49:24] what does that even mean [14:49:27] wdym? [14:49:43] like, in terms of the law, or in terms of being a computer toucher [14:49:44] as in I just save as image, provide a link in the description and leave it at that [14:50:00] there's no functionality to do that, no [14:50:18] you basically have to save the actual image, and then upload it on your end [14:50:25] i do that [14:50:28] so allowed? [14:50:37] allowed would depend on the law [14:50:44] do you have permission from the copyright holder to use it? [14:50:46] if so, yea [14:50:53] if not, it should be fair use [14:50:54] it has no copyright afaik [14:51:02] it's just laying in deviantart [14:51:23] <.guardianx.> Naah those two things aren't the same [14:51:24] depends on where the author lives and how old the artwork is [14:51:35] https://www.deviantart.com/arcadianemperor/art/Flag-of-Arcadia-391638458 [14:51:36] and in some cases, when the author has died [14:51:38] something like this [14:51:42] this shit is complicated and i hate it lol [14:51:48] I just used it as a basis temporarily [14:51:51] If theres no provided license anywhere, All Rights Reserved is assumed [14:52:16] what if it was All Lefts Reserved,,, [14:52:18] Your ability to use it is governed by the [[w:Fair use]] doctrine [14:52:19] [14:52:19] ok yep that checks out [14:52:24] <.guardianx.> And, now we have even more amazing things to deal with since so many places are tryingt o claim copyright of created works on their platforms if they are hosted with them as the primary host >< [14:52:29] no C's anywhere [14:52:41] thank the U.S law system [14:52:50] But attribution should be provided [14:52:53] in the US, copyright is implicitly assumed when it was made after 19xx [14:52:56] idr the exact year [14:52:59] i reference them in description [14:53:07] good enough? [14:53:11] Link back [14:53:16] yh i do that [14:53:27] also why does my mind always think "squid game thanos" before "n" [14:53:33] when seeing your pfp [14:53:34] you also should consider the resolution too lol [14:53:45] Who’s [14:53:46] Mine? [14:53:47] <.guardianx., replying to dullbird173> the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and disney. [14:53:49] is that even N [14:53:52] oh [14:53:58] I'm literally blind [14:54:01] that's an OC [14:54:06] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Image_resolution [14:54:20] And a laundry list of other corps [14:54:24] <.guardianx.> right? [14:54:30] how do i know if my wikis part of nexttide because i literally have no clue if it is or not 😿 [14:54:33] But for copyright [14:54:38] Mouse to blame [14:54:45] <.guardianx.> Flippin nintendo out here making me feel bad for watching youtube content that wasn't created by them >< [14:54:46] If you don’t know it probably isn’t [14:54:48] what did we even buy nexttide for? [14:54:49] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Arcadia [14:54:52] quality is good enough right [14:55:06] Like I said if you wanna opt in email tech damn it [14:55:08] 😿 [14:55:14] you enebe told me [14:55:17] what the freak [14:55:23] Check S:Version to see if it’s on 1.43 [14:55:28] uts not [14:55:33] you cursed 😲😲😲😲😲 [14:55:36] where do i email [14:55:39] how to email [14:55:39] /j [14:55:47] <.guardianx.> What is email?! [14:56:02] [[Contact us]] [14:56:03] [14:56:06] i look away from the chat in two mintues and i'm already confused [14:56:09] tech@miraheze.org [14:56:11] what do i say [14:56:17] do i type one line [14:56:19] help [14:56:19] literally me but in school [14:56:20] Stackd isn’t mucho esparto [14:56:27] is that a threat [14:56:29] take un-autism pills first /j [14:56:45] i'm turbo autistic [14:56:46] No [14:56:46] <.guardianx.> You can tell it's a friday >< LOL [14:56:51] my turbo button is unpressed [14:57:11] do you want to be featured in TM as an actual char lol [14:57:12] I honestly aren’t entirely sure if I’m autistic, the testing history is confusing [14:57:13] oh wait no [14:57:13] who manages the email and are they scary [14:57:16] my turbo button is pressed [14:57:21] > [18/01/2025 01:57] do you want to be featured in TM as an actual char lol [14:57:23] wdym char? [14:57:27] character [14:57:34] hmm, unsure [14:57:35] Fuck around and find out [14:57:38] Autism was an integral part of the Finno-Korean Hyperwar [14:57:45] I just stick to ADHD/neurospicy [14:57:51] my hands are tremenling...... [14:57:59] And there's currently an effort by the North Korean Utopia and the Khaganate of Un Finlandia to cure autism [14:58:04] ew [14:58:07] somewhere in Thule (Zerreich) [14:58:09] THE COUNCIL SHALL DECIDE YOUR FATE [14:58:23] neurospicy conversion therapy [14:58:27] di i say something like "i would like to request utgwiki to be a part of nexttide" [14:58:30] whar [14:58:32] and send it like one line [14:58:35] what? [14:58:42] what [14:58:44] what is nexttide again help [14:58:46] okay cross emoji reaction [14:58:54] is that the wikitide people [14:58:56] like idk upgrade to 1.43 [14:59:01] is wikitide even a thing [14:59:07] uhh [14:59:08] miraheze is wikitide [14:59:09] it's complicated [14:59:20] its kinda like gamepedia and fandom [14:59:25] there's wikitide, the hosting service, and the wikitide foundation, the foundation that supported the hosting service [14:59:30] but replace gamepedia with wikitide and fandom with miraheze [14:59:31] [1/2] 5 hours later [14:59:31] [2/2] So we're Miraheze, Wikitide, but they're both seperate? [14:59:32] but wikitide (the server) merged into miraheze (the service) [14:59:50] and the wikitide foundation assumed control of miraheze (the service) (after a community vote) [14:59:52] Wikis opting into 1.43 [14:59:58] pixldev: oh okay [15:00:01] Ooooh boy [15:00:03] do i say something like "i would like to request utgwiki to be a part of nexttide" [15:00:04] why do we have another domain name though? [15:00:06] send it one line [15:00:18] Legacy? [15:00:27] Yeah [15:00:29] ok [15:00:38] So we are Miraheze but legally operated by the WTF [15:00:46] omg that acronym- [15:00:50] more like. New management [15:00:55] this just feels like the British Isles debae again [15:01:11] WikiTide Foundation! as WTF sounds like an in-community joke [15:02:06] btw, pixldev: why email tech? why not open a phorge task or comment? [15:02:24] ok i sent email [15:02:29] exactlyyyy [15:03:22] Hi. Where can we talk about Wikis being approved by an automatic LLM making use of Miraheze resources when accepting wiki creations? [15:03:40] avengium: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/CreateWiki_AI_%26_Wiki_Reviewers_RfC [15:03:41] Idk [15:04:27] [1/3] Only on the RFC? Can we talk about it on Discord? [15:04:28] [2/3] I'm not sure I know what it implies. [15:04:28] [3/3] I have doubts [15:04:33] ah, you can talk about it here [15:04:49] i assume you meant to officially voice your opinion [15:04:53] are recent volunteers getting cooked by the influx of new users and wikiws [15:05:17] personally, executive dysfunction is cooking me [15:05:26] though i generally do phorge stuff [15:05:37] i like, wanna do the approved extension backlog [15:05:47] but my brain's like "ehh... i'm not really in the mood for it tho" [15:05:52] Yes. I want to talk about the specifics and how we made that to yave an informed opinion before voting support or oppose on the RfC but I don't want to monopolise the channel [15:06:02] I can't believe people request a wiki then never touch Miraheze again [15:06:10] same [15:06:17] there's so many [15:06:30] like, how do you forget about it wtf [15:06:31] Yes. But there are thousands of people who requests and never touch Miraheze again [15:06:44] I absolutely can [15:06:51] i fucking hyperfixated on my domain name when i was trying to buy it [15:06:53] You can talk here [15:07:00] We’ll answer best we can [15:07:02] even though it took like 2-3 days for payment to go through because direct debit [15:07:10] ain't the first wiki miraheze have is just about spirals [15:07:30] yes [15:07:41] Yes. I think that kind of people do that with every hobby. Is not special on wiki [15:08:08] there was the animated muscle women wiki [15:08:16] when i was going through discover wikis there was like 5 pages for wikis requested on the 13th alone [15:08:21] choco chocochip icecream ❤️ [15:08:31] R.I.P. to the brave volunteers [15:08:41] there's an autistic characters wiki [15:08:43] i wish for miraheze to have an adoption request similar to fandom 🙏 the current system is kind of confusing not gonna lie [15:08:46] oh hell yeah :3 [15:08:57] [1/2] How are we preventing the "request a wiki and never tiuch it again" case with the RfC? [15:08:57] [2/2] How an auto-approved request made by an AI and automatic script is helping us with that? [15:08:59] beth actually stumbled upon that once [15:09:10] 30 days and it disappears [15:09:12] agreed, most new people wouldnt even know how to request for admin rights [15:09:12] An adoption system used to exist until it was declared unconstitutional \:P [15:09:24] truly a democracy [15:09:29] the best and the worst [15:09:29] lmao- [15:09:38] can it re exist again [15:09:44] pls 🙏 [15:09:45] extension? [15:10:34] https://tenor.com/view/v-ideo-game-dance-goro-majima-yakuza-dancing-gif-17678213 [15:11:23] hmm [15:11:33] does miraheze skew towards folx who like to read documentation? [15:11:35] [1/2] Unfortunately, just like a human, the AI can’t read minds. To prevent the case of “request a wiki and never use it”, that requires institutional change that goes beyond the reviewer. To that end, some changes have been made to RequestWiki to make requesters think more thoroughly about their request. With much quicker response times, I would think that users ar [15:11:35] [2/2] e more compelled to use their wikis if they receive a response within a minute when they’re still inspired rather than a whole week later when your dedication or even desire for a wiki may have been crushed by the wait. [15:12:01] because i did read the UPP back when it was called Local Elections [15:12:16] if approved by the an RfC, yes [15:12:17] havw yall ever thought about making a miraheze mascot... [15:12:25] flower? [15:12:29] can we just make it flowie [15:12:29] bee! [15:12:30] dozens of times but no one can agree what it should be [15:12:34] yellow cat [15:12:48] ginger cat [15:12:53] called idiot [15:12:54] please [15:13:01] because the logo literally just is a group of hexagons that sort of looks like the MediaWiki logo, not a honeycomb or anything else [15:13:03] why are we dragging me into this /j [15:13:14] pwease? [15:13:18] creative liberty [15:13:25] 1984 [15:13:32] vote for [[User:BeeBot]] to be the miraheze mascot [15:13:33] Ok jorjor wel [15:13:39] fucking wm-bot [15:13:43] vote for ME to be the mascot [15:13:57] I represent it perfectly [15:14:15] [1/3] - 0 sense how it works [15:14:15] [2/3] - 0 traction [15:14:16] [3/3] - 7 bugs [15:14:20] lmfao- [15:14:46] maybe bugs should be the miraheze mascot... [15:14:52] wait no thats bad [15:14:54] bi the way, the bi mediawiki logo goes hard [15:14:54] but bees are a bug [15:14:56] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki-2020-large-bi.svg [15:14:58] this is ties perfectly in [15:15:07] r/hardimages2 [15:15:09] when does purple and pink not go hard [15:15:15] TRUE [15:15:28] its either blue or purple or purple to pink [15:16:24] [1/2] Good. I think could help for the first week. But maybe we end with that wikis approved with between 1 and 5 articles before that people change their hobby. [15:16:24] [2/2] I think AI-approved wikis could increase the amount of empty wikis. [15:16:40] 30 days rule is gonna take out half of them [15:16:51] but there'll be some who'll make 1 edit and then disappear until the next 30 days [15:16:56] the 30d rule only applies if the wiki has not had any edits [15:17:08] just remembered as I was typing [15:17:12] I don’t really think there’s anything either wiki creators or the AI could do to stop empty wikis [15:17:32] can some bored people just scroll throuhg the wiki list to find abandoned wikis and nuke them [15:17:37] wiki creators don’t stop requesters and ask “will you really use this wiki?”, they just approve if it looks fine [15:17:48] don't we have an auto deletion process though [15:17:58] the 30 day rule isn’t enforced actually [15:18:11] oh yeah, forgot about that lol [15:18:12] [1/3] i think to combat the "never touch miraheze after requesting" issue: [15:18:12] [2/3] 1. there should be a thing to check if wikis have been updated once it is created [15:18:13] [3/3] 2. a 10 day timer. if no edits made, close temporarily [15:18:13] it if it were, I’m sure we could tackle a lot of empty wikis [15:19:00] https://github.com/miraheze/CreateWiki/pull/605 [15:19:03] i'm waiting on UO before i merge [15:19:27] or put it into read only mode with a popup leading them to a miraheze meta page "Why can't I edit my wiki?" [15:19:28] It looks like CI didn’t pass? [15:19:53] Miraheze mascot thread is on general > Threads > Miraheze Mascot, Pet [15:20:30] miraheze mascot should be a bee fr [15:20:56] beverly from the prettiest platypus [15:21:16] https://tenor.com/bDA7v.gif [15:22:06] reminds me of that time where i had a partial screenshot of the bee movie script on wikimedia phab [15:22:47] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383390 [15:23:21] [1/2] my ass cannot find out why the color changes when its wide and standard [15:23:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329833448839581797/waterfox_AKRDu1N4xg.gif?ex=678bc769&is=678a75e9&hm=035b549ad67452d9811be457b4e9655d3520b1de5a932b7e49bf2ab9bd51f0ba& [15:23:35] i remember match the color when its in full [15:23:39] ????? [15:23:44] chat i think i have dementia [15:24:06] it happens [15:24:39] maybe for :root.citizen-feature-custom-width-clientpref-standard and wide, put background page highlight as transparent? [15:24:57] I thought It was merged lol [15:25:05] lmao [15:25:10] We have fast track for 7 days [15:25:52] o [15:25:56] i forgot lol [15:26:01] Well [15:26:02] We will [15:26:38] whar [15:26:48] who are we waging whar against [15:27:13] what is this [15:27:21] css [15:27:26] css [15:27:27] oh [15:27:29] oh yeah [15:27:36] that can be the ninth circle of hell sometimes [15:27:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099127093419311237/1272598651432079371/ezgif-5-a911dafe12.gif [15:27:45] clair please just get a discord account [15:28:02] alright bet, give me your phone number /hj [15:28:08] doesnt rhino switch from discord to irc half the time lol [15:28:12] gives phone number [15:28:14] you don't need phone numbers? [15:28:15] yeah he does [15:28:25] dullbird173: in my experience, it begged for it right after registration [15:28:38] [1/2] its no longer void oh god [15:28:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329834778547195925/image.png?ex=678bc8a6&is=678a7726&hm=c33e4092b3e1007186d141b41aa1b3f27d12d030a05bfad64e653c92c894ffa4& [15:28:40] MY [15:28:43] :eyes [15:28:47] oh yeah, sometimes when it detects “suspicious activity” [15:30:11] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/User_talk:AwesomeGamerX?diff=prev&oldid=5945 [15:31:48] i think i will also speedrun discord ban customclient% tbh [15:32:17] Mirabees: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/901057109951647754/1223405049049518100 [15:32:43] bee ❤️ [15:33:38] bee-chan [15:33:42] They don’t enforce that too much in my experience [15:33:47] oh okay [15:34:02] gotta get past the phone number unskippable cutscene though [15:34:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329836242422071396/image0.jpg?ex=678bca03&is=678a7883&hm=f8b1370b0d3d2992461a19ae7c0d9daaff4cf47504ffe6bbcd0e99f51bbbdb7d& [15:34:46] [1/2] WHY IS THE RIGHT SIDE MOVING LMAOOO [15:34:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329836321946206249/waterfox_IbaiTjUjeg.gif?ex=678bca16&is=678a7896&hm=d4d91e5f325a620bd6d3863d8ea0ed14895305630e96fde57bbf7cfa32e82749& [15:35:06] :O fancy animations [15:36:49] ty [15:36:55] im confused why is that even moving [15:37:03] my wiki is cursed i swear [15:37:23] well whatever shit i did, didnt work [15:37:26] and now it works [15:37:27] my wiki has specially cursed enabled [15:37:27] cool ig! [15:37:55] whar [15:38:05] there's an extension called specially cursed [15:38:13] that lets you create special pages on wiki using lua [15:38:25] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/special:comiclinktowikipage [15:39:19] too brainy for me [15:39:35] good choice [15:39:35] is making a custom scrollbar worth it chat [15:39:50] wdym custom scrollbar? as in one with different colours and sizing? [15:39:59] [1/2] also why [15:39:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329837633861582858/waterfox_xwd6LxVpiu.gif?ex=678bcb4f&is=678a79cf&hm=ae0ecb298b8cb74d30fc16cb18cf70dfcaa9dc96e5c5252caae1995eb0c02025& [15:40:03] yeah mb lol [15:40:43] i shall now `eep` [15:41:02] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_scrollbars_styling [15:41:06] i should now `eep` [15:41:21] [1/2] tabs of me watching mrbeast reacts and figuring out shit [15:41:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329837977970675754/image.png?ex=678bcba1&is=678a7a21&hm=f4393c18fca7bbec9332de3a01258ab132134cc0d708d693272d36bc2518b0ca& [15:41:24] cool i guess [15:43:41] i remember opening up like 30 tabs to add something [15:43:47] i wish i knew masseditregex sooner [15:44:49] If these custom themes had their own classes I would have a field day experimenting stuff exclusive for those themes only [16:25:45] guten tagen guys [16:26:19] that theme looks like a horror game menu [16:30:05] guten tag [16:30:43] hru? [16:30:57] good [16:30:59] and u? [16:33:38] same [16:39:21] Hallo [17:11:42] Holla [17:14:40] [1/2] > there's technically an @avghelper [17:14:41] [2/2] i woke up to find this buried in mountains of chat wth happened here [17:56:34] hey can i get your view on something? [18:06:59] What’s up [18:07:15] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1329822373012176976 [18:08:18] a [18:09:43] okay so one of my wikis is for stret merdhin right [18:09:48] and thetopic has to be around it only [18:10:02] would it bepushing that rule to put pages about groups it is in or would that be fine [18:10:33] You assume I know what stret merdhin is [18:10:38] micronation [18:10:42] [1/2] A micronation is a political entity whose representatives claim that they belong to an independent nation or sovereign state, but which lacks legal recognition by any sovereign state / A microstate or ministate is a sovereign state having a very small population or land area, usually both. However, the meanings of "state" and "very small" are not well-defined in international l [18:10:42] [2/2] aw [18:11:32] Mmmm [18:11:52] I think it’s fine [18:12:00] I’m not a steward though [18:12:12] fair and yeah i just wanted someone elses iew [18:12:13] view [18:12:17] as mine would be biased haha [18:42:21] Attributes of the micronations and information about the alliances/groups it belongs to are generally fine. [18:43:16] Where we've seen issues and where it crosses a line is when it starts functioning as a name and shame of real life people (including excessive pii) who are "adversaries" to micronations [18:44:15] Much more common when folks get into some online roleplay of their micronations and behave poorly, but not all fall into this category of problem [18:48:42] thanks for the info [19:36:32] <.guardianx.> [1/4] I could be wrong but I think, generally, the rule about singular topics revolves around an entire wiki and not just a page or group of pages. [19:36:32] <.guardianx.> [2/4] Like if your wiki is about a complex singular topic that takes multiple pages, I would assume that is fine. [19:36:33] <.guardianx.> [3/4] But if your wiki is about one thing and that thing can be easily explained in a a very simple way, it may be more of a question but could still be okay. [19:36:33] <.guardianx.> [4/4] I'm not an admin or anything, that was just my interpretation, that context plays a key role in the process. [19:49:28] tbh the poltical system for it is so complex we have had to make a learning course so people can understand [19:55:01] [1/3] Yeah, scope changes would be something like: [19:55:01] [2/3] * I want a wiki for one game, and now I want to make it a different game. [19:55:01] [3/3] * I wanted a wiki for this one book series, but now want to cover the entire genre instead [19:56:06] If the topic is materially the same but with a broader lens applied, this is generally fine and doesn't always require an approved change of scope [19:56:18] But we appreciate the ask to confirm! [21:18:31] How long does it take on average for a volunteer to see my ticket and accept the creation of my wiki? [21:19:18] A few days to a week at the moment, see the #announcements about AI [21:45:57] Anywhere from a few days to a week is my experience [21:46:33] There's only a small handful of people looking at requests, and current there are over 100. [21:47:12] Speaking of, I was actually going to ask if there is a system in place for becoming a volunteer. Or is that reserved for long-time trusted members of the Miraheze team/community. [21:49:41] Community volunteers are elected [21:51:20] Typically people are well known in the community first but that has been broken recently, and if the proposal in the RfC passes, we will have an appointment process for WCs (or soon to be Wiki Reviewers) [21:53:23] man that's a big ass preview [21:53:27] Are you interested in it? [21:55:30] I'd be interested in helping out with the queue/requests. I have quite a lot of freetime and I often go through the queue when I'm bored lol. [22:00:09] [1/2] Oh, are external links not allowed? (I was linking my Youtube and Miraheze server) [22:00:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1329933304102912000/image.png?ex=678c2468&is=678ad2e8&hm=9d444be44a8278c25f2e936dd316fc3acb3c55ca00e6400d8c22dcbb28423862& [22:07:35] Presumably not on user pages as a lot of spam bots tend to do that [22:08:46] Ah, ok! [22:08:57] Not as a new for spam yea user [22:08:58] I figured it had to do with link scams and stuff [22:09:08] One of our most efective filters ngl [22:10:12] Feel free to ask in #volunteering to our current Wiki Creators about helping out. [22:11:52] Autoconfirmed users are exempt I think? [22:22:44] Current backlog (oldest unhandled request) in request wiki queue is about 2 days 21 hours (128 requests). [22:24:19] We always can use good volunteers [22:24:46] It's likely the appointment proposal will pass, I'd say you could reach out to a Steward after it passes, and maybe serve as a first test of the process. I would advise hanging around and engaging with the community some more before that personally. [22:25:33] We have a volume of old example request tests [22:25:45] Ro is also dang good at making the,. [22:26:12] If you want us to drill you on some from an old RfP, let me know, I'd be happy to find one [22:29:04] I have quite a list ready if you want [22:30:29] How many do you want? 12, 24, 36? Just ask and I provide [22:33:00] I'd appreciate that [22:33:39] I'll post them in #volunteering ... 10 to start with! [22:47:26] I am off again. Going to watch "Orphan" on Netflix.