[00:30:15] [1/2] Is the scope of the [[mh:deltarune]] wiki considered a duplicate of the scope of [[mh:cyberpedia]] ? Cyberpedia's scope is about the Undertale and Deltarune games, and the Deltarune wiki's scope is well, Deltarune. If the Deltarune wiki ends up importing xml files of the Deltarune fandom wiki (which on its request form it says its forking from) then it will essentially share its co [00:30:15] [2/2] ntent with Cyberpedia, which has also imported xml files from the Deltarune Fandom wiki. [00:30:16] [1/2] [00:30:16] [2/2] [00:54:43] [1/2] hell yeah [00:54:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331789173790609448/image.png?ex=6792e4d2&is=67919352&hm=5e05cf8a40a16dc4e2e3e1671a3c19f929d4e92087be638fe4863e176de16f3f& [00:55:18] wait the order of this is wrong [00:55:20] _oh_ [00:55:28] whatever [01:02:55] Cc-by-nc-sa is correct order. [01:04:27] How do you figure that? deltarune has just been created and has no edits yet. [01:05:23] no i meant the order of the icons [01:05:33] Like I said, the wiki request at [[Special:RequestWikiQueue/53679]] [01:05:34] [01:06:34] And as far as I know the xml file dump of the Deltarune Fandom wiki is public, since that's how Cyberpedia got it [01:10:39] [1/3] Cyperpedia is about Undertale and Deltarune [01:10:39] [2/3] Deltarune is only about Deltarune. [01:10:39] [3/3] So closely matched, but the scope is different [01:12:58] [1/2] Would be the same if I was to write about Freddy Mercury and another wiki wrote about Queen. [01:12:58] [2/2] Or if you wrote about Denmark while another wiki was about Scandinavia [01:13:41] England - Great Britain [01:14:29] I see no problem there [01:18:18] Ok! I saw that the CP does say that subtopics are considered different scopes, just in my eyes it seems like an edge case since Deltarune content is (probably) about 50% of Cyberpedia. Thanks for answering! [01:19:42] You're welcome. [01:32:56] If Cyperpedia is Undertale+Deltarune and there’s also a Deltarune wiki i would recommend merging in ngl [01:35:19] Depends on how detailed Undertail and Deltarune are, and how detailed Deltarune will be. [01:36:06] If Deltarune is more extensive than Undertail and Deltarune are... I can see it as different scope. [01:37:02] I agreee that merging would be better if Deltarune and Undertail and Deltarune have the same info about Deltarune, that it would be a fork. [01:38:36] [1/2] ---- [01:38:36] [2/2] Good night all. [01:38:51] [1/2] πŸ’€ [01:38:51] [2/2] πŸ›ŒπŸ» [02:02:12] They have overlap but are different games with different universes (???) [02:03:10] Ohhh Undertale and Deltarune wikis on Miraheze, interesting, I wonder how well they might work. The Fandom ones are extremely established but I've seen a bunch of people who were tired of having to use Fandom for them so? [02:17:29] [1/3] Cyberpedia has been around for at least a year, but it never really gained any traction, and right now it's basically just a scuffed combination of the imports from both Fandom wikis since there's a bunch of template and css errors everywhere. Also the imports contained all of the Fandom discussion/comment pages, which make up at least 95% if not more o [02:17:29] [2/3] f the wiki's pages (50 thousand total). [02:17:29] [3/3] The Deltarune wiki request came after a recent discussion on r/Deltarune, though the requester never replied to say that the request had been made, so as far as I can tell nobody from that community currently knows about it. [02:59:22] sounds about right [03:00:25] @rodejong hi you’re orange but other now [03:18:40] why in the goddamn it's called Cyberpedia [03:19:08] I'd expect some kind of actually general cyberpunk wiki to have such name [03:19:51] not entirely sure [03:20:08] Chapter 2 of Deltarune has a strong cyber theme [03:20:20] Gives [[w:PBS]] show vibes [03:20:21] [03:20:23] usurping the entire genre? [03:20:34] god, what was that old show i used to watch on there [03:21:01] there's a whole ass game called Cyberpunk lol [03:21:06] https://pbskids.org/cyberchase/ [03:21:13] The nostalgia [03:21:17] Cyberpedia is a direct reference to the game but yeah it's a one-time mention and not the clearest haha. [03:21:28] Gives Cyberchase vibes real [03:22:20] Is [[w:Cyberchase]] an article [03:22:21] [03:25:44] The nostalgia hits hardwr [03:25:47] also [03:26:11] the VA for the main baddie was the doc from back to the future what [03:47:09] My Vietnamese ahh still don't know what PBS is [03:53:56] public blob store [03:54:32] https://blog.x.com/engineering/en_us/a/2012/blobstore-twitter-s-in-house-photo-storage-system [03:56:27] hence the link [03:57:01] no the other PBS not the code related one [03:57:53] what PBS did i link to- [03:58:13] nope thats right [04:00:46] outage? [04:00:57] You too, man? [04:00:59] backend fetch failed [04:01:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331836076150751325/image.png?ex=67931080&is=6791bf00&hm=81c50af58fa97f4f5ccbca987ec55e1664831207d751f32235fc724eedb00041& [04:01:09] 🀩 [04:01:18] I just published an entry to mine, then BAM. This page. [04:01:35] gotta love error 503s am i right [04:02:15] again? [04:02:43] believe so [04:02:44] is it related to that short database short circuit or whatever the term was [04:02:48] 😡 [04:02:51] what [04:02:55] not 141 but the other minor one [04:03:55] May wanna look into enabling Edit Recovery in preferences [04:03:58] Anyways [04:04:00] UGH [04:04:18] 😭 [04:04:33] let me edit in school 😭😭😭 [04:04:39] This happened right as I was about to fix a tiny mistake on mine ;v; [04:05:01] while we are all here does fandom java script port well to miraheze [04:05:11] some yes [04:05:22] if ur talking about like the fandomdev wiki [04:05:25] or is there some that dont port well at all [04:05:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331837191093227591/image.png?ex=6793118a&is=6791c00a&hm=a63520d8d61ae189cef45a881e12828c19240ea26501226fe167502008d31afd& [04:05:40] muira dewn [04:05:45] real [04:07:37] should be coming back now [04:08:34] miraback [04:08:38] 😍 [04:10:29] some yeah, they can have stuff unique to Fandom [04:10:38] will require rework for Mira [04:11:21] sobbers [04:12:02] I have reworked decorated tooltips if you wanna [04:15:35] actually how do you recolor those [04:22:25] recolor what [04:26:46] nvm [04:41:47] hmm apparently there's bfdi wiki on miraheze created in 2023, and seems like fandom users have found it [04:50:28] bfsi [04:51:08] expect problems [04:53:56] is there a way to add music [05:03:02] you didn't have to ping me or reply to unrelated message, just post your question and someone will reply [05:03:24] sorry [05:03:34] wdym by music [05:03:41] if you mean an mp3 file yea it hink [05:04:00] i dont know is autoplaying is an option [05:04:14] [1/2] extension TimedMediaPlayer, audio files will act like image files, same upload and add process [05:04:14] [2/2] but you shall not violate copyrights [05:04:44] using timed media player rn [05:04:51] Is fair use allowed? [05:04:54] autoplay isn't desirable thing in general these days [05:04:55] Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976 [05:05:05] I'm not from the states [05:05:14] fair use is a thing but music is the most copyright fucked type of media [05:05:29] if ur using it in the context of providing infomation [05:05:44] it doesn't matter where are you from, Miraheze is in US [05:05:52] just dont upload full songs [05:06:04] when Miraheze was based in UK we had Fair Dealing, more stricter thing [05:06:11] ohhhhhh [05:06:21] alright the only part I wanted was like a minute long anyways [05:06:24] thanks [05:06:59] make sure its relevent to the page and you're probably ok [05:07:11] not a lawyer nor do i know the law well [05:07:17] on Pizza Tower Wiki we embed music from official Bandcamp and SoundCloud of game's composers, and we asked them permission to upload music that exists only in the game, no official release [05:07:38] if you can ask for permission thats also good [05:07:53] OH it's from a movie [05:07:58] Well I can always change it [05:08:08] [1/3] This is not an official release and all rights belong to their respective owners. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tip [05:08:08] [2/3] s the balance in favor of fair use. This video is for entertainment purposes only. [05:08:08] [3/3] Can I just pull something like this? [05:08:18] are you trying to tie copyrighted media to your world building? [05:08:33] is driver coyprighted? [05:08:48] I just want le cool synthwave song [05:08:52] [1/2] dude everything is [05:08:52] [2/2] even wikis [05:09:05] embed from YouTube video [05:09:21] there are extensions to add YouTube and other video hostings videos [05:09:29] Spotify too, but fuck Spotify [05:09:47] well you gotta actually do one of those (criticism, comment, research, analysis, etc.) you can't just add the song and be done [05:09:53] and Bandcamp and SoundCloud tracks can be added via scripts [05:10:28] Alright [05:10:34] I'll keep this lateur in mind [05:10:38] le zenk yku [05:24:48] not the miraheze hiccup [05:36:01] idk works fine [07:09:28] [1/2] Having a lil issue with images not displaying [07:09:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331883487350882304/image.png?ex=67933ca8&is=6791eb28&hm=b5a55608e8d6b704d522f2c04f153cc1a1643e734b023279e4a9d5b6c87b9545& [07:12:15] oop it's working now [07:12:19] must've been a minor hiccup [08:49:57] is there any way i can make it so that a certain word typed in a page will automatically have a color for that text? [08:50:13] like every time i put ruby in there its automatically red without needing to put span [08:53:26] is there any alternatives to userlanguage since mira is still on 1.42 [08:58:26] Not sure what you're on about πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ Dutchies are orange πŸ˜„ [09:04:53] didn't I told you to create a template? easier solution instead of manual span typing [09:05:23] oh right [09:07:15] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MyVariables has `{{userlanguagecode}}` [09:42:47] you have officially saved my life [09:42:54] here i give you this big trophy [09:42:57] πŸ† [09:43:00] take it [09:49:44] thanks lol [10:08:22] [1/6] I think "color" is too long name for such template, so maybe go w/ "clr" or just "c" [10:08:22] [2/6] the code on template would be [10:08:22] [3/6] `{{{2}}}/span` [10:08:23] [4/6] where 1 is color name or code, and 2 is text [10:08:23] [5/6] usage code would be [10:08:23] [6/6] `{{clr|orange|This text is orange.}}` [10:09:33] [1/3] what if for example, [10:09:33] [2/3] ```apple costs 2 bucks. [10:09:33] [3/3] banana costs 1 buck.``` [10:09:47] i only want 2 and 1 be green. whats the most efficient way (in the page) [10:10:01] in case this isnt efficient enough [10:10:07] lol [10:10:25] what do you expect then? [10:10:44] this ain't google docs [10:10:49] ok lol [10:10:52] copy paste works i guess [10:11:14] it's not hard to type figure brackets and pipes [10:11:15] im a bit inexperienced on templates so can you tell me how i can use like 3 different colors in one tempalte [10:11:25] why? [10:11:38] to keep it uhh [10:11:39] neat [10:11:49] you want separate pieces of text to have different colors - use template separate on these pieces [10:12:04] oh wait nvm i realised lol [10:12:13] i can input hex on #1 right [10:12:35] it won't be much different if you'd code a site from scratch on neocities [10:12:43] also isnt it 2 {} instead of 3? [10:13:20] for template parameters it's triple brackets [10:13:26] ah [10:13:27] okay [10:13:29] I forgot to add color in the code btw [10:14:09] I tell this to every beginner wiki admin - lear template coding, learn HTML and CSS basics - not much but it will help a lot and take you far [10:14:19] im gonna try ```{{clr|#ffffff|this text is hopefully blue}}``` [10:14:34] thats white [10:14:38] #fff is white [10:14:40] that's white [10:14:43] lol [10:14:48] oh [10:14:52] i mixed up #0000ff [10:14:56] [1/2] Quick question, how could I make clickable icons like these as part of an index page? [10:14:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331930159875620914/image.png?ex=67936820&is=679216a0&hm=3d3ba12af419289c731abd64fdc1d4a3cfaf97476d10ea19934eb50960e86d74& [10:15:16] gallery? [10:15:52] [1/2] image syntax supports linking [10:15:52] [2/2] gallery too, but on your screenshot is most likely images w/ fancy CSS captions [10:16:24] Appreciate the info [10:17:00] [1/6] `[[File:Example.png|30px|link=Example]]` [10:17:00] [2/6] in gallery [10:17:01] [3/6] ` [10:17:01] [4/6] Example.png|Example caption|link=Example [10:17:01] [5/6] ... [10:17:02] [6/6] /gallery` [10:18:43] coming back here to say hex codes work on this [10:19:01] I told you it accepts codes [10:19:30] [1/2] also [10:19:30] [2/2] [10:20:03] [10:39:18] quick question because i forgot, how do i link a page from my wiki and a specific section in that page? [10:39:48] like in the url has #section [10:41:08] `[[Page#Section]]` [10:41:29] ah right [10:43:38] thanks [11:13:04] what does the subscribe button do [11:54:14] hello guys welcome back to my minecraft lets play [11:54:22] today we are going to be mining for diamonds [11:59:12] <7seasofq> [1/2] does anyone know how i can make a menu like this on my wiki that is always present on any page [11:59:12] <7seasofq> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331956399139328051/Screenshot_2025-01-23_at_3.58.05_AM.png?ex=67938090&is=67922f10&hm=b4122dcfef6aa0f1c2237eca15a5d01dbfd3f0d3c5713126feb9134ef29933f6& [12:06:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331958298978816174/Screenshot_2025-01-23_200600.png?ex=67938255&is=679230d5&hm=dd8a8af04271dcf914887feea38854fc536fc646c1ff43b5a4dac10c32b31f44& [12:07:18] <7seasofq> happened to me too, sometimes i just wait a little [12:08:21] ok [12:09:20] Oh, this brings me way back [12:09:33] [1/2] oop [12:09:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331958999100293261/image.png?ex=679382fb&is=6792317b&hm=cd49ed3e8ad8f359674124eb7b969c397c20250d5767e0a06cfafef78f00d0a0& [12:13:49] we're down at osca.avid.wiki as well [12:16:09] [1/2] horizontal navigation is a feature of Fandom skins, in this case Fandomdesktop [12:16:10] [2/2] Miraheze offers Cosmos, a port of old Fandom/Wikia skin called Oasis, it has the same horizontal navigation [12:17:27] <7seasofq, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> how would i integrate Cosmos or that type of horizontal navigation you're mentioning within my wiki [12:18:36] [1/4] as I said, Miraheze offers that skin [12:18:36] [2/4] first you need to enable it on your wiki via Manage this wiki's extensions admin menu [12:18:37] [3/4] then set it up as default [12:18:37] [4/4] I suggest first to check how it looks/feels, wait a sec [12:18:51] [[Miraheze Meta]] [12:18:55] huh [12:23:12] [1/2] again?????????? [12:23:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331962438513590384/image.png?ex=67938630&is=679234b0&hm=11c7d7a2a8e0e3c5254e64e1d5f96c9fff51ca07f83c3aae02f4649494f6ae99& [12:23:22] use either oasis or mirage [12:23:52] ok, figures if servers are having a fit [12:24:15] plz don't confuse folks [12:24:50] <7seasofq> servers had to have a fit the moment i had time to edit 😭 [12:25:16] WHAR [12:25:26] ok [12:26:42] test [12:27:47] funny how the servers lately take a break at exactly 12 UTC and go to sleep for 40 minutes, they need that time off [12:28:35] frisk? [12:28:41] ? [12:28:55] Oasis is dead, we have only Cosmos [12:29:35] nah [12:29:45] i just remember because of wiki bot [12:29:52] *and minecraft wiki admin [12:29:52] ahh, hehe, yeah [12:29:57] o/ [12:30:01] o/ [12:30:30] the world of wikis is small, some people pop up in many places ;) [12:30:39] indeed [12:31:04] there are maybe like 13 of us, 15 max /s [12:31:23] ohhh yeah [12:31:25] i forgot [12:31:27] frick [12:34:22] is there a way to add like forums or smth [12:37:50] [1/2] wikiforum extension died long time ago and no sane wiki uses it these days, however our Labster is looking into its revival [12:37:50] [2/2] so atm I can only suggest a bootlegged variant by using DiscussionTools and custom namespaces [12:38:01] hm [12:40:18] DPLForum is also an option. It's what we use on OSCA and AVID. It takes some template work, but it works alright for us [12:43:01] ah, I forgot about it [12:44:18] does anyone have any idea on how to add/edit site-wide messages? [12:45:46] such as? [12:47:00] MediaWiki:Sitenotice? [12:47:44] sorry, that's right i had no idea [12:47:56] it was sitenotice i was looking for - but thank you [14:05:26] My domain just expired but I don't have the fund to renew it yet... Can tech folks add an additional domain to an wiki when there is already one? [14:07:02] is there a more convenient way in mass changing names in the translation namespace because of a page name change [14:08:28] pywikibot, replacetext or masseditregex in order of convenience come to mind [14:08:41] doesn't mass edit just edit [14:08:43] not sure how well the latter two handle page name stuff, it's possible they don't [14:08:52] whats pywikibot [14:09:13] another way to make bulk changes but needs to be run from your system [14:09:34] 😰 [14:09:36] general summary of it [14:09:53] if replacetext is an option I'd go with that but pretty sure it's still not usable on wikis before a certain age [14:10:12] masseditregex is great if you know regex [14:10:23] [1/2] why does it need to be after a certain age [14:10:23] [2/2] i stumbled upon sr/rc and always wondered why [14:10:55] something about compression of older wikis that is different on wikis created after, therefore can run without a problem [14:11:16] someone tech would have to give a non slop explanation [14:11:36] Will new wikis never have it work or does it just take time? [14:13:42] I don't think we will... [14:15:41] Oh was it replacetext or just massedit regex that was not able to be used [14:16:42] ReplaceText are the only thing afaik to be restricted [14:17:01] Does ReplaceText apply to all pages or something? [14:27:24] hold on lemme check: {{mw:Extension:ReplaceText}} [14:27:25] [14:28:08] For the whole wiki as I see [14:28:57] How can I turn it on? [14:29:28] SR/RC [14:29:35] You have to request it at [[SR/RC]] [14:29:36] [14:29:36] MassReplaceRegex has serious limitations with the amounts of pages you can edit with it [14:31:42] I tend to use Java Wiki Browser for find/replace jobs [14:31:58] I did not know this existed [14:32:28] It's not an extension, but as an personal JS script [14:32:48] You have to put it in your personal JS pages, either common.js or global.js [14:33:16] And also import it into the wiki right? [14:34:01] No obligated, you can just have it for yourself, but if there is an use case for it, go for that [14:35:04] [1/2] https://taerel.com/w/User:TaerelAdmin/common.js [14:35:04] [2/2] This is an exsample of me using it [14:35:13] Can you show it to me on wherever it is stored? [14:35:46] [1/3] I just put [14:35:47] [2/3] mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Joeytje50/JWB.js/load.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); [14:35:47] [3/3] In my common js as my link says [14:37:42] You can just link to wikipedia and not import? [14:37:58] Yeah [14:50:50] can you show me [14:51:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1331999864455823461/4.png?ex=6793a90b&is=6792578b&hm=d22fdd12a3521a8b57e6f4a1322d54c8a57e1ccc2f55b7a2452a534706a5cad8& [14:52:11] https://www.avid.wiki/Forum:Index [14:52:13] what [14:52:29] wrong data [14:52:34] ok [14:52:52] ty [14:52:54] looks sick [14:58:23] that did take some love and care to put together [15:24:06] its a bot [15:24:09] similar to AWB [15:24:20] never used pywikibot [15:24:28] altho AWB is clunky imo [15:30:56] how do you enable special:editrecovery on a wiki? [15:31:23] or do you have to enable it on meta miraheze [15:41:59] It’s not a special page [15:42:09] You can enable it in Special:Preferences [16:05:22] oh yeah , i mean the option sorry [16:05:24] It's not available on my wiki atleast [16:05:41] Hm, check ManageWiki settings [16:05:52] I thought it was enabled by default [16:05:58] If the wiki is old enough though maybe not [16:06:13] oh sorry aha [16:06:14] it is in settings [16:07:30] Yeah it’s silly [18:35:29] is there a way to add a link that links to another wiki not on miraheze? [18:35:57] like for example that doing [[mc:Stone]] would take you to https://minecraft.wiki/w/Stone [18:35:58] [18:38:15] Yup [18:38:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Interwiki [18:38:22] Special:Interwiki [23:23:48] uh oh [23:24:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1332128863328800850/image.png?ex=6794212e&is=6792cfae&hm=9fa10aea3f54609e2194faf9d265fcbe11e02966096ff6f6c516fa7dd7ccfcab& [23:30:13] How odd, I can save edits and stuff. Just can't upload files. [23:44:07] Got an HTTP 500 error while uploading a file. [23:45:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1332134217743732807/image0.jpg?ex=6794262b&is=6792d4ab&hm=04ea72c8ddc8e38be430bcc397516d7a068ba26d9a7a8351574b4d0a6bffa173& [23:48:48] Having same issue with file uploads over on wiki.animalroyale.com [23:49:20] Though some go through, weird [23:52:38] I also had that happen [23:52:55] at first I thought maybe I'd set off a spam thing since I was uploading a lot of files [23:53:05] but then it let me upload one [23:53:21] so it's probably just a small tech issue [23:54:38] Yeah, I were wondering, because it feels really picky about files it allows to upload, I somehow thought it was some kind of built-in filter but it doesn't seem so since the 500 seemingly comes from nginx. [23:59:40] What is the content type and file size of what you're uploading?