[00:44:03] [1/3] Just the most used ones. We want infoboxes that are as good as ready to use, without more then 1 dependencies. a Template, a Module and perhaps a style.css nothing more if possible. [00:44:03] [2/3] It should be easy foor noobs to understand how it works. [00:44:03] [3/3] That basically goes for all templates, tables, sidebars, etc. [01:17:42] How can you make Search based on sub-page names, not just full page names? [01:19:16] [1/2] infobox is not being an infobox [01:19:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333244904813629473/Screenshot_2025-01-26_at_8.18.44_PM.png?ex=67983093&is=6796df13&hm=a64146fcf8db47c650ccd5d97b405c6efcd1c6387dd1e99ed94ce39c6232f1d2& [01:30:22] Of one user? or all users? [01:33:26] [1/2] If only for one user or page: `[[Special:PrefixIndex/User:Example]]` or `[[Special:PrefixIndex/Example]]` [01:33:27] [2/2] If for all users/pages... I'm unsure. [01:34:40] [1/2] šŸ’¤ [01:34:40] [2/2] šŸ›ŒšŸ» [01:34:48] Good night [01:44:16] Oh, I mean the search suggestions in the search bar [01:57:20] [1/2] How do I change the wiki logo [01:57:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333254485543223388/IMG_3153.png?ex=67983980&is=6796e800&hm=489bb3abae7087148b34161be65f7905ea2fef1d7f6cd2b09ffb4af25cf7a0d6& [02:01:14] [[mw:Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_logo?]] [02:01:15] [02:21:12] [1/2] for MH w/ ManageWiki: [02:21:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333260491056742430/sNi7VfS.png?ex=67983f17&is=6796ed97&hm=012cbb739f2031509fbc0f803376cf3c0de021e54677cf77ca79d4c0009b88a0& [04:45:17] I noticed this has `.vector-feature-zebra-design-disabled`. But at some point, on my wiki, this caused my CSS to no longer apply. Does it still work on yours? [04:57:36] [1/2] Is this dismissable after a while? [04:57:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333299853161136169/Screenshot_20250126_204527_Edge.jpg?ex=679863c0&is=67971240&hm=474847713382a4c302ed9d0138fe00d3754c3effe802f5975efa8b8423732ab7& [04:58:59] Like if its been more than 30 days? [04:59:16] I mean 60 not 30 [05:02:14] No, someone must reopen the wiki, otherwise it would get deleted [05:02:53] Public wikis can easily dismiss that notification by a simple edit. [05:24:43] I have reopened the wiki myself then [05:29:25] [[Dormancy Policy]] [05:29:25] [06:59:22] your wiki can be deletedā€½ [06:59:32] oh no... [07:02:01] [1/3] if you abandon it or it has no active admins or editors [07:02:02] [2/3] if you need a break or something you can request temporary exemption [07:02:02] [3/3] if the wiki is "completed", acts like an archive, it can be exempted indefinitely [07:02:40] it takes about a year for wiki to actually get deleted [07:02:49] ohh i see [07:03:05] and even after that it can be recovered, there's a window [07:03:10] just read the policy [07:03:31] oh! it can be recovered ā€½ interesting :0 [07:03:50] if the data base wasn't dropped [07:04:43] in any way, it doesn't mean that you can not care about your wiki to the point of getting closure notice [07:05:12] abandoned or never touched wikis are way too common here and it's not good [07:06:13] [1/2] it's your project it, work on it, make it thrive [07:06:13] [2/2] if you realised you can't, give it to someone who can, or let it go and request deletion [07:06:43] gotcha [07:07:10] would it possible to move it to shoutwiki to prevent deletion? [07:07:35] Miraheze lets you to retrieve dumps of the wiki yes [07:07:58] whether shoutwiki actually supports migrations these is beyond my knowledge [07:08:19] ohh okay [07:08:27] this hosting is in infamously poor state [07:08:58] oh [07:10:23] I wouldn't recommend it as an alternative to Fandom, support is non existent and nobody knows when they'll decide to end it [07:10:38] true [07:16:22] i mean in the worst case scenario the repos of wikis can be sent for people to continue it locally, right? [07:34:22] sure [07:34:34] ah, almost forgot about IA dumps [07:50:13] It can but you can request exemption. [07:50:18] And honestly? Just be active. [07:50:37] Create a featured page so they can be updated every weekend.. [07:50:41] By you, of course. [07:51:15] The activity guidelines are designed to be fairly relaxed [07:56:46] Ye. You just need to reserve 10 minutes every weekend to do a quick edit. [07:56:55] Like changing a featured article on the main page. [07:57:20] You really don't [07:57:53] You have 4 months until it's closed [07:58:03] And you get warned at 2 months [07:59:40] I'm just saying that it's more productive to schedule a routine than waiting till you get warned. [07:59:49] And easier. [07:59:57] But that's me opinion. [08:00:09] What do I know? I just work here. [08:00:18] I mean ye but you could schedule once a month or once every like 6 weeks [08:00:36] Telling people once a week makes it sound like if you miss a few weeks we'll close you [08:00:39] Which is untrue [08:00:58] Fair. You got your point. [08:06:35] [1/2] gotcha [08:06:36] [2/2] thanks yall ! [08:12:51] PS: As the wiki admin. You should also download backups. [08:12:54] šŸ˜‰ [08:13:01] I usually keep 3 backups for my wiki. [08:20:39] i keep uh [08:20:43] nine months worth [08:20:54] for reference, my wiki has been open for nine months [08:21:21] oh true! how do i do that againšŸ˜… [08:21:31] go to Special:DataDump [08:21:37] or the link that says "Manage this wiki's backups" [08:22:26] (heading off for a late dinner now :p) [09:09:20] ohh right! tyy [10:50:33] heloo chat [10:50:55] Hello [11:21:28] Yes, it works on mine [11:56:01] we also put them on IA [12:48:12] [1/2] is there a way to make the translation selector show specific languages? tried to display none but excludes some stuff but the empty spaces šŸ„“ [12:48:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333418282564456551/Screenshot_2025-01-27-20-47-19-35_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=6798d20c&is=6797808c&hm=05a0ca9c4f2d1bd5cab10cd7a93d1669946cc2a9d6ccc955e77942cf5be629d4& [14:27:41] has miraheze moved to mediawiki 1.43 yet? [14:48:07] That will happen today, starting in about 3 hours [14:55:56] Soonā„¢ļø [14:56:14] yeah, planning on importing thats why [14:56:26] ill wait for miraheze to move to mw 1.43 [14:56:41] and wait for other events to happen, then i can import all pages [14:57:45] just import it [14:57:58] they'll probably help you import once the upgrade is over anyway [14:58:05] will do later [14:58:25] can i request the tech team to exclude pages under the user namespace? [14:58:29] if so then thats pogchamp [14:58:40] because nuking is pain [14:58:46] have u downloaded the dump though [14:59:02] ????? just enter some input boxes and it mass deletes automatically [14:59:07] have u even tried it at least obce [14:59:42] oh i can just mention the namespace? [14:59:49] yes [14:59:55] {{mw:Extension:Nuke}} [14:59:57] [15:00:17] https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/DmSZmONE3oLyJ8BghtMklHUXqcRoHBSuVA_jOI7zMyQ/https/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Nuke_extension.png/1200px-Nuke_extension.png [15:00:18] not rn [15:00:29] its best to generate it early [15:00:36] takes a while for big wikis i believe [15:01:23] doesnt it take like a week or smth? [15:03:21] No [15:03:29] If it does theres something wrong [15:04:36] o ic [15:11:25] Is there a specific page that one can use to mess around and test how things work while waiting for a wiki request to be approved? I don't want to accidentally mess with someone's wiki and searching isn't pulling anything up. [15:14:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333455073136611369/image.png?ex=6798f44f&is=6797a2cf&hm=d7e41cf7d3c4d218f45fbbf640adf8aad60749d122c8b180e412c4e6dec48495& [15:15:08] [1/2] There is, however I don't recall what it's called [15:15:08] [2/2] Lemme try to find it, unless someone else gives it to you [15:17:46] The Public Test Wiki @giraffeinapigpen [15:20:17] Thank you!! [15:20:47] Don't know why I didn't think it having such a straightforward name šŸ˜­šŸ©µ [15:25:31] [1/2] any other wikis using commentstreams? [15:25:32] [2/2] dreamsphere wiki had all commentstreams mysteriously disappear for some reason [17:31:44] [[mw:Extension:CommentStreams]] [17:31:45] [17:32:43] I vaguely remember some extension being marked as unmaintained [17:32:54] guess not it [18:12:47] Why no 100th? :( [18:14:23] is it just me that has styles failing to load on their wiki? [18:14:44] [1/2] wait nvm what the heck [18:14:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333500455074005115/image.png?ex=67991e93&is=6797cd13&hm=01106ce4333ea7dfe7529f934a8733d9264ce59e699571ed3269be36e235ba3a& [18:15:17] see #announcements [18:15:22] should be back in a few seconds [18:15:34] wiki not found [18:15:46] got it, was worried that it was deleted for inactivity lol [18:16:16] same mine [18:16:33] We can address after upgrade if that is in fact the case, but definitely worth letting things settle down first [18:16:44] all wikis should be up [18:16:52] when is the upgrade? [18:16:58] In progress [18:17:02] oh [18:17:22] is not working [18:22:08] is working now in my wiki [19:10:03] Maintenance has concluded, how are things looking now? [19:11:23] all fixed now thanks! [19:15:25] Good job on successful update! Overall went pretty smooth I'd say, so far only thing I found is there is plenty to fix with styling, not too surprising considering we've done custom style Vector 2022 dark mode. Hope the update didn't make Miraheze tech team tear up from frustration ;) [19:16:56] I love Miraheze. [19:17:00] No homo. [19:20:11] The tech team can better opine on this front, Frisk, but the work that went in to multi-version support has made these upgrades so much more of a breeze than was historically the case. [19:20:36] Being able to upgrade in place with having to force all wikis into read-only is a game changer [19:21:19] I'm very pleased with this migration [19:21:37] certainly smoother than 1.41 [19:21:56] šŸ‘šŸ» [19:22:24] It looks like the WhatLinksHere problem is still there, any chance itā€™s just a more gradual change than the update? [19:22:51] it'll probably be resolved the next time the script runs [19:23:30] [1/2] I'm getting DB errors all over. Any thoughts on whether this is server issue or some incompatibility introduced with the update? We use dpl and cargo extensively [19:23:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333517764081750079/image.png?ex=67992eb2&is=6797dd32&hm=a25df46c13452ed57ad88ae753c62da5778a3307a451fa80f313a0841994f53e& [19:24:05] what wiki? [19:24:40] bluearchive.wiki [19:24:53] i.e. https://bluearchive.wiki/wiki/Kaede [19:25:31] oh [19:25:40] > Error 1054: Unknown column 'pl.pl_title' in 'SELECT' [19:26:02] it seems DPL3 doesn't support 1.43 [19:26:14] cc @cosmicalpha ^ [19:26:16] Uh ohā€¦.. [19:26:33] How did we test 78% of extensions and not DPL huh [19:26:38] ...and the whole of miraheze migrated without anyone checking? [19:27:49] DPL3 isn't a super highly used extension but the problem didn't manifest on testing because the pl_title column was never dropped on db172 wikis [19:28:03] we could try to repopulate the table as a stop-gap solution [19:29:06] tbh my wiki uses DPL3 in one place, though it seems to be fine for now [19:29:19] seeing no errors [19:29:28] Hm [19:29:53] I'm more concerned by Dark mode button not existing for unlogged view on Vector 2022 now [19:30:19] Let me know if someone finds it lmaooo [19:30:41] Mmmmm is that reaaaaally a loss though [19:30:46] I am using a couple DPL3 statements too (mostly with custom mode), and seeing no issues either with those [19:30:54] I'm looking into it [19:31:09] > Mmmmm is that reaaaaally a loss though [19:31:10] YES [19:31:18] I suspect maybe the drop only happened on one db [19:31:19] I stopped the pl_title drop [19:31:21] My pages started failing after purges/cache expiry [19:31:29] I completely forgot about it. I remember I got a lot of email reports a few weeks ago about it too... [19:31:41] it was around 12% completed [19:31:44] <.guardianx.> Hmmm did "Vector.css" change to a new path or did just some of the id's and classes change? [19:31:52] Did you make a taaaaask [19:32:01] Change [19:32:01] it's likely classes changed [19:32:33] I hate working with DPL queries. I hardly understand much of it myself. [19:32:51] oof [19:33:07] Frisk: an incredibly large amount of work went into making upgrades seamless [19:33:16] I see [19:33:30] smoothest yet, apart from the DPL3 troubles \:P [19:33:36] <.guardianx., replying to cosmicalpha> I wonder if DPL queries are more expensive than SMW asks [19:35:49] temporary fix applied for now\ [19:36:08] Thank you! [19:37:11] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/bb6c6e417407a066872740b5a94993a9fee1bc2c [19:37:19] @cosmicalpha ^ [19:38:14] Should I be rushing off DPL? We're generally moving towards cargo for content that needs queries, but there's tons of old dpl code, too [19:38:50] They used to be but I added a lot of caching to make DPL3 not actually all that expensive anymore. Although probably still a bit. I'm not sure if less then SMW or not. Potentially still... [19:39:02] I still aim to get DPL3 working again. [19:39:27] <.guardianx.> I Wonder about Cargo vs VisualData [19:41:01] <.guardianx.> is Cargo literally a small DB or is it just some other data format displayed as a DB / table? [19:41:29] It's a bunch of sql tables [19:41:35] It's backed by a MySQL db [19:41:55] Separate to the main mediawiki one though [19:42:23] Same servers but different db [19:42:29] And different creds for cargo [19:42:31] Same issue as the links haha [19:42:52] Are all issues this update caused by this drop lol [19:54:37] mediawiki 1.43 šŸ”„ [20:01:53] <.guardianx.> So, I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one that mildly cares but the Vector2022 skin css / js has moved to vector-2022.css or .js [20:03:13] <.guardianx.> pretty sure vector.css / .js applied to it prior, or I was stupid and didn't relize that only I was seeing the CSS changes on my wiki >< ...which is entirely possible [20:06:46] @cosmicalpha https://github.com/Universal-Omega/DynamicPageList3/pull/291 [20:16:57] That will actually break things since the Article class in that instance is the article class from DPL3 I think? So it isn't the MediaWiki article class and those properties still exist in the DPL3 one. [20:17:12] Complicated I know lol. [20:17:50] oh [20:22:24] links to project namespace pages are acting weird; they look like they don't exist, but they do, and searching them up results in "No sitename set.:etc"; will this resolve itself later? [20:23:28] [1/2] eeeevening [20:23:28] [2/2] any chances of messed up css after update? [20:27:47] Yes [20:27:57] [1/3] dear lord [20:27:58] [2/3] -# this is way better why wasn't it like this from the start [20:27:58] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333533982960128010/image.png?ex=67993dcd&is=6797ec4d&hm=06bb38f66779e6a1f395005ae05fbb67e1028ab97247143b8de50f830dc891bb& [20:28:32] šŸ„² [20:28:35] Did mediawiki do a w [20:29:40] If I understand correctly they set colours directly from :root instead of on every single new element [20:29:52] so that's a win in my book [20:30:00] what are the new changes from update [20:30:22] [[MediaWiki/1.43]] has some [20:30:23] [20:30:58] most of the changes are under the hood changes [20:32:38] hey there, i am novice wiki creator and was wondering what the name of this kind of element is called [20:32:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333535164302626908/image.png?ex=67993ee7&is=6797ed67&hm=9746113e7bbcb539305890caf1dda0a2ae39bcd01dc45e6551ce3d79d2766564& [20:32:47] just a grouped collection of links at the bottom [20:32:52] i can figure it out once i know the name (hopefully) [20:33:14] [1/2] IKR [20:33:14] [2/2] Can actually style ooui elements without losing my sanity now [20:33:30] Navbox iirc [20:33:36] thank you <3 [20:35:32] Bet [20:35:42] [[dev:]] may have one you can use [20:35:42] [20:47:21] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Navbox/doc [20:47:35] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Navbox/doc this? [20:49:10] thank you!!! was puzzled on this for a bit haha, I keep making template loops somehow [20:49:16] im excited to set this up its gonna look soo cool [20:50:01] Yw [20:53:54] sounds good! do you know when thatā€™ll be? [21:18:02] As far as I am aware, this has been for a long time. The name of the skin is "vector-2022". IIRC it has never been called "vector2022" [21:20:57] So is Special:WhatLinksHere expected to work after the update? [21:24:02] [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp37 at Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:23:39 GMT [21:24:03] [2/2] Varnish XID 56033335, serving 2a0c:5a80:2202:6100:8681:e5af:5493:79c6, 127.0.0.1 (your IP!). [21:24:24] I just got that too [21:24:40] same [21:25:12] @agentisai ā¬†ļø [21:25:36] Joined to see, yeah it's down [21:25:51] rip :sigh: [21:25:57] thankfully i copied my template to my clipboard [21:26:10] :EVE_skeleton: [21:26:21] i was in the middle of doing a very complex template šŸ˜­ [21:26:25] guess i'm waiting [21:26:26] hopefully autosave catches mt edits šŸ˜­ [21:26:52] the only reason i knew to copy mine was because the preview stopped loading for a second [21:27:02] so i was like okay lemme copy the template, reload and that should fix the preview [21:27:10] instead the page didn't load, but i still have it thankfully [21:27:19] i hope so too šŸ™ [21:27:26] tbh, I wouldn't dare do a xomplex template so soon after an MW update [21:27:33] https://tenor.com/view/powercat-catpower-gif-13874994171711907652 [21:27:38] anyone know what's happening? [21:27:40] i didn't knew there was an update tbf [21:27:43] https://tenor.com/view/powercat-catpower-gif-13874994171711907652 [21:27:46] Good thing my complex edit was saved just before the issue [21:28:08] https://tenor.com/view/server-power-saga-server-power-server-power-cat-server-power-low-cat-gif-3211613041394372241 [21:28:43] <0phiuchus.> https://tenor.com/view/powercat-catpower-gif-13874994171711907652 [21:29:01] Please Do Not Spam with Gifs! [21:29:29] sorry šŸ˜” [21:30:12] my page is attempting to load i think... [21:30:17] oh nvm [21:30:34] 2025-01-27 21:30:05: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" [21:30:56] [1/5] šŸ”“ Varnish XID 77103907 Error 503 cp37 [21:30:56] [2/5] MediaWiki internal error. [21:30:56] [3/5] Original exception: [1853fe3651cd55ba9d3a0807] 2025-01-27 21:30:00: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" [21:30:57] [4/5] Exception caught inside exception handler. [21:30:57] [5/5] Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information. [21:31:00] meta has too many connections? [21:31:18] anyone else getting bad gateway? [21:31:23] Everyone is [21:31:26] ah mb [21:31:35] mediawiki is trying its hardest here. its doing its best. [21:31:57] Then it needs to do better than its best, as it is clearly not good enough šŸ˜› [21:32:12] mediawiki is the goat [21:32:44] be happy with what you have. they'll succed [21:33:12] i will be patiently waiting for it to return, as i don't want to loose all my progress on the big template i'm making [21:33:21] same here [21:33:26] i have so much motivation to work on my wiki rn [21:33:38] real [21:33:41] Did we just upgrade to MediaWiki 1.43 [21:33:43] why do i get a surge to edit as soon as i cant edit [21:33:52] smh [21:33:54] yes!! like 2 hours ago [21:34:02] literally MEEE [21:34:11] :EVE_gloomy: [21:34:23] I hope the upgrade resolves the technical problems I was facing. They were really making it a lot more difficult to edit than it should have been [21:34:34] this issue is not caused by the upgrade [21:34:54] Oh. Not even tangentially? [21:34:54] what are the css changes with the new update? some of my bg's are slower to load [21:35:35] Any ETA on resolving the outage? [21:35:52] "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" does that mean "mysql needs a kick up the backside" [21:35:53] Iā€™m not around to check [21:35:56] šŸ˜­ [21:36:19] Beautiful avi [21:36:32] [1/4] MediaWiki internal error. [21:36:32] [2/4] Original exception: [1d81e0a39134d0b1bedfad11] 2025-01-27 21:36:23: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" [21:36:33] [3/4] Exception caught inside exception handler. [21:36:33] [4/4] Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information. [21:36:47] <44nifty> of course my wiki gets approved the day miraheze goes down... just my luck lol [21:37:07] [1/2] this is definitely accurate guys [21:37:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333551387908374620/image.png?ex=67994e03&is=6797fc83&hm=a5ca99b451a069d12cd8f117472b13bfdd460e9d17928b878e33126f3579c65f& [21:37:38] well [21:37:53] Free service - no fixed amount of uptime promised - Cannot fault it [21:38:02] don't worry i was joking [21:38:03] You can fault it [21:38:08] did admin noticed it? [21:38:12] or yet [21:38:27] Things will get lost here [21:38:31] I understand it is a free service so no fixed amount of uptime promised, you are doing your best with volunteers [21:38:42] That is the error [21:38:49] <44nifty> it's voluntary, nobody owes you a Miraheze [21:39:12] <44nifty> and downtime is inevitable with any online service no matter how much money you dump into it [21:39:20] so true [21:39:27] i love that we even have miraheze to begin with [21:39:36] Please use https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/20/?parent=12840&template=12840&status=open [21:39:37] me too [21:39:50] we will burn alive whoever pushed unverified code to prod šŸ˜ [21:40:00] šŸ¤” [21:40:07] :thonk_3D: [21:40:08] If you're getting a new exception since the update, please feel free to open a task using https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/20/?parent=12840&template=12840&status=open [21:40:17] And an engineer will get to it [21:40:21] well then I have to use obsidian for a while [21:40:25] whats burning now [21:40:30] a db toppled over but I donā€™t know which [21:40:31] worldbuilder too? [21:40:35] It's an exception if it has [random numbers and letters] at the start [21:40:45] I do think Phab is the best place for errors as stuff does get lost on Discord [21:40:51] well, I got an error logging in to the issue tracker lol [21:40:52] Can't as that also gives a Error 500 [21:40:53] If you're reporting us being completely down, that should now be fixed [21:40:59] <44nifty> [1/2] my bad guys, miraheze couldn't handle the NBWiki [21:40:59] <44nifty> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333552360940765276/image.png?ex=67994eeb&is=6797fd6b&hm=43705f7c4a993ebad3da642e0964ee4b2061a17977735a5617f96a0961092bef& [21:41:00] It should not [21:41:00] wdym new exception? [21:41:10] grafana says hi [21:41:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333552424450785351/image.png?ex=67994efa&is=6797fd7a&hm=5a6aaad9bd11736e4f483e5ba223439a655dbdd2021d0f66efc5dfb44c7bb3e6& [21:41:18] A new error with them random letters and numbers at the start [21:41:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333552481828999168/FypraWo.png?ex=67994f07&is=6797fd87&hm=13b1762bf08b4b4216203f9d648cb66857889c882e908013a8ad0e0d8c85d636& [21:41:29] gonna guess 171 [21:41:35] [1/2] should i report this? [21:41:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333552510228631553/image.png?ex=67994f0e&is=6797fd8e&hm=d0ea63b4f6baed38541c0e906b209f187c69c72ff496689b8bd8fc506d54f6ee& [21:41:43] ā„¹ļø Getting too much email? [21:41:49] We'll get to this [21:41:56] alright - just making sure [21:42:10] If you're getting errors about too many connections, hang fire [21:42:47] If it looks like this, we're working on it [21:43:05] On the plus side, seems progess is being made then [21:43:20] It is [21:43:26] im gonna play some balatro [21:43:28] If it's in this format and persists after the outage at the moment is resolved, please report it [21:43:28] ill be back [21:43:36] okay great! [21:43:42] If it's just random weird behaviour, please ask here [21:43:56] alright~ [21:44:01] [1/14] Current errors: [21:44:02] [2/14] ----------- [21:44:02] [3/14] šŸ”“ Varnish XID 77103907 Error 503 cp37 [21:44:02] [4/14] ----------- [21:44:02] [5/14] šŸ”“ MediaWiki internal error. [21:44:03] [6/14] Original exception: [1853fe3651cd55ba9d3a0807] 2025-01-27 21:30:00: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" [21:44:03] [7/14] Exception caught inside exception handler. [21:44:03] [8/14] ----------- [21:44:04] [9/14] šŸ”“ (Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Too many connections (db171)) [21:44:04] [10/14] ----------- [21:44:04] [11/14] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/auth/login/mediawiki:mediawiki.meta/ [21:44:05] [12/14] Unhandled Exception ("HTTPFutureHTTPResponseStatus") [21:44:05] [13/14] [HTTP/500] Internal Server Error [21:44:06] [14/14] ----------- [21:44:06] If you're css is broken, open a #support and someone who understands css will help you understand the new classes [21:44:07] good news folks i think i found the issue [21:44:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333553145288196116/5MAtJ5d.png?ex=67994fa6&is=6797fe26&hm=e2d98d6ed3f6cb65019c2a3f757f2d5bd17c53734aceaa8b395bbb610672fa74& [21:44:15] WOW [21:44:21] I also got an original exception [21:44:22] Honestly they are impressive numbers [21:44:23] šŸ˜§ [21:44:26] h o w [21:44:33] is this a new record [21:44:34] Math does not math up xD [21:44:39] Yes? [21:44:55] oh so db171? [21:44:58] Iā€™ll restart it [21:45:05] that's exploit [21:45:17] the CPU is literal lava at this point [21:45:23] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333553465560924231/3t5pyAk.png?ex=67994ff2&is=6797fe72&hm=90ebb5e0d054bf2fc9773b1ff2e271e065369523a81c0b7bb76546f2e013ba9b& [21:45:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333553465846140990/wDOdsYJ.png?ex=67994ff2&is=6797fe72&hm=a3dd2a19b2230da858af780e01593f3f08fbb32fec119041b352634d5ae0c47b& [21:45:27] bc is down >:( [21:45:29] not even grafana wants to deal with this [21:45:49] [1/2] working on itr [21:45:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333553575133184060/lFHKBcY.png?ex=6799500c&is=6797fe8c&hm=d90f3a06964946bc3e1f4558c8631a9bc0b05959b2ebd7947339602f3f06d977& [21:45:54] are you guys playing minecraft with shaders on that [21:46:10] listen [21:46:14] how do you even go above 100% [21:46:16] Ye please reboot 171 @agentisai [21:46:20] It's very unhappy [21:46:26] we havent done that since Tropical Wiki [21:46:27] Above 100% is possible [21:46:31] we host [21:46:33] And kinda semi acceptable [21:46:36] ugh [21:46:41] what other games have servers anyways [21:46:43] ok but thats 12k% [21:46:48] 12,000% is a bit excessive [21:46:55] just a touch [21:47:01] Not to be annoying but i genuinly wonder what is 100% of a CPU if you can go at 12594% [21:47:10] It's not going @volcanojungle [21:47:11] same [21:47:15] It's pretty damn fucked [21:47:21] i understand that [21:47:24] It will need rebooting [21:47:33] i just wonder how it come to withstand that data [21:47:36] like where does it comes from [21:47:44] how can it be more than itself [21:47:50] Overclocking [21:48:05] Ripe for the šŸ—‘ļø [21:48:24] wastebasket emoji [21:48:41] sigh how did you manage to max out your hard ware this time? [21:48:41] the aws fees are gonna be crazy [21:48:51] what's aws? [21:48:59] Amazon Web Services [21:49:01] Or it treats 1 full core as 100% [21:49:22] dedicated hardware or are we the noisy neighbor? šŸ˜› [21:49:24] Still means that is at lest 10 cores maxed out if that is the case [21:50:11] They are 6 core machines [21:50:18] So no it's just massively overloaded [21:50:30] we're colocated thank god [21:50:31] it feels like a fever dream i only undestand like half of what's being said mao [21:50:32] I wouldn't be surprised if that's just total nonsense tbh [21:50:43] load average != cpu itil % [21:50:44] its still funny af [21:50:55] also prometheous crashed out for a few windows so [21:51:12] Time to inverst in more hardware? [21:51:23] So this isn't a me issue? [21:51:29] colocated with aws? are you going to ask jeff bezos to not do that [21:51:30] we are going to get more yeah [21:51:37] It is not a you issue [21:51:43] no the servers just went on vacation to the fucking sun [21:51:45] Unless you've done something seriously crazy [21:51:53] https://tenor.com/view/well-shrug-i-dont-know-the-good-place-eleanor-gif-14622723624732296466 [21:51:54] no utah [21:51:55] i deleted sys32 [21:51:57] I do not think even Cargo can do thus [21:51:59] So what was the potential cause of this? A lot of people editing at once or was there a data leak or something? [21:52:06] @agentisai are you rebooting it? [21:52:12] red hawks in utah [21:52:12] I guess a database packed up [21:52:15] Cause is not yet known [21:52:17] *mysql thing [21:52:24] Went to save an edit and it went oopsie daisy [21:52:27] Probably databases being the wonderfuck they are [21:52:35] Either way, the volunteers will fix when they can [21:52:44] It is being worked on [21:52:46] yes [21:52:56] yall are the goats [21:53:02] Nicely or power off style reboot? [21:53:14] [1/2] there's a simple fix for this [21:53:14] [2/2] ```DELETE * FROM table_name;``` [21:53:22] [21:53:25] youre welcome guys [21:53:26] what is this lmao [21:53:27] I was able to ssh in so Iā€™m restarting mysql [21:53:29] no swearing [21:53:37] Hm [21:53:41] [21:53:42] I'm impressed you could ssh in tbh [21:53:47] But I'd go for the kill tbh [21:53:49] Is MariaDB a user or system process [21:53:51] My wiki tends to have problems with mysql packing up time to time so no wonder [21:53:54] I'd be amazed if that nicely restarts [21:53:58] System [21:54:02] https://tenor.com/view/loading-discord-discord-loading-loading-discord-loading-gif-discord-gif-20330357 [21:54:05] Yeah [21:54:10] The spike in CPU is system [21:54:16] this gif is evil [21:54:19] so would everyone after seeing 12,000% of CPU being used lmao [21:54:20] There are 2 ways you can restart things and reboot computers [21:54:22] User went up some too but itā€™s 28% [21:54:41] One is asking it to please restart nicely when you are able [21:54:48] Iā€™m looking for anything that correlates [21:54:50] One is basically pulling the plug and screaming die now [21:54:51] Where is miraheze hosted? [21:54:58] There was a big spike on the network ones [21:55:02] Utah [21:55:02] FibreState Salt Lake City [21:55:10] But that was hours ago [21:55:21] Oh [21:55:24] We've been getting that every lunchtime [21:55:37] So what your saying is the Mormons potentially sabotaged Miraheze? [21:55:37] No one understands that spike at 12 UTC - 12:45 UTC [21:55:40] oh is everything down? i just tried accessing osdev.wiki [21:55:40] Something in Sockstat TCP seems to match [21:55:43] https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816 [21:55:45] Yes [21:55:45] Yeah [21:55:49] noted [21:55:57] Servers are on vacation to Venus [21:56:13] no more osdev time for me. time to find a snake [21:56:20] snack* [21:56:24] snake [21:56:35] @rhinosf1 sockets waiting close is a result of this not a cause right [21:56:36] Go outside if you're some where with nice weather for a bit [21:56:46] average complotist [21:56:51] its 34f outside rn [21:56:51] More likely a result of this I'd say [21:56:57] *nearest supernova [21:57:04] Actually sockets in use also went up [21:57:15] That would be logical [21:57:24] how much in Ā°C? [21:57:33] And TCP connections [21:57:35] almost 0 [21:57:40] just above [21:57:44] That's 2C I think [21:57:47] 54 degrees for me [21:57:52] F to C is subtract 30 and half it [21:57:54] It's too cold [21:57:55] TCP direct transition floored [21:58:06] C to F is double it and add 30 [21:58:34] Same with ingress I think [21:58:40] Read a book then [21:58:40] You think itā€™s backups again? [21:58:50] Backups aren't that bad [21:58:57] In theory [21:59:05] 54ĀŗF is 9.7ĀŗRĆ© [21:59:45] <_arawynn> We had 11Ā°C this afternoon... [21:59:48] Or about 513 rankine iirc? [21:59:49] did miraheze die [22:00:01] We had 2 thunder & hailstorms [22:00:03] oh neat [22:00:04] Yes, and they're blaming you specifically. [22:00:07] They're working on it [22:00:08] 2C is ok [22:00:14] And a massive jump in wind in the morning [22:00:16] do you guys have snow? [22:00:23] miraheze died and we killed her [22:00:24] Anything below 80 degrees F is cold to me. [22:00:25] let me pull out my ukelele real quick [22:00:26] We had hail but no snow [22:00:43] That's insane [22:00:47] 80F is boiling [22:00:57] how about the -20 of a few days ago [22:01:01] I was just about to report lol [22:01:02] i can't understand F [22:01:02] My thermostat is set for 75 typically [22:01:03] does it loop back to fine or [22:01:12] Chat is SSB eternal frostwhale good for ssb normal meg [22:01:23] 80F =26.667 Ā°C [22:01:24] I remember last summer we got a record breaking 116 degrees F [22:01:25] did mediawiki crash [22:01:28] i love san francisco weather, constant 60 degrees [22:01:35] No MariaDB did [22:01:41] 46.6C [22:01:47] wait [22:01:52] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/808001911868489748/1333555625531015220 [22:02:01] Answeeer [22:02:02] Maybe we can move the Weather talk to #offtopic ? [22:02:15] No it keeps users calm [22:02:29] wha [22:02:32] There's nothing useful we can say wiki related [22:02:35] we must distract ourselves from Madam Miraheze's stroke [22:02:45] The weather talk keeps users thinking of something else [22:02:58] [1/2] it could be fatal you know [22:02:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333557892846194849/image.png?ex=67995411&is=67980291&hm=7118c438501d978bb494696857cb9263c73fe6c76d24931aaa186a7946489f44& [22:03:01] Welp... I need to go to sleep but https://mylittlefandompolska.miraheze.org/ have some MediaWiki internal error. [22:03:05] The servers declined to open the door for the missionaries [22:03:16] Go to sleep, it'll be back when you wake up [22:03:34] i hope :3 [22:03:36] Life crystals are so yummy looking [22:03:37] 26.667Ā°Cā€ˆisn't boiling but let's agree that if it's long it's annoying [22:03:44] i had 40Ā°C once and i don't even live in a desert [22:03:57] I live in the valley [22:04:01] I live in England [22:04:01] did the reboot work [22:04:02] i'm going to bed too [22:04:06] 27C is boiling [22:04:13] i live in France [22:04:14] 2pm for me rn, wish I could sleep [22:04:15] We're looking to get much better than 15C [22:04:20] pst? [22:04:24] You had thunderstorms too? [22:04:38] yup [22:04:41] I used to live in eastern france, and tbf temperatures there are much worse tahn in the north [22:04:54] I would like to visit Europe one day but the cold man [22:04:55] amazing [22:04:57] this is not the fisch server [22:04:58] western caost where my parents live did, not the north (even though we got rain) [22:05:12] no worries, spain got you covered [22:05:14] They were bloody mental on the south coast of England [22:05:27] I've left my state once and it was when I was ~8 to the neighboring state of Nevada (Las Vegas is boring if you're 8 btw) [22:05:31] it is currently 57 degrees in san francisco [22:05:34] We had a couple of massive thunderstorms today [22:05:36] also it was like a 7 hour drive [22:05:46] vegas is smokers galore [22:05:47] my mom sent me a message that they got electrecity cuts at some point [22:05:53] I feel sometimes Europeans don't realize how big the US of A is [22:05:53] Power stayed on here [22:05:57] It's so annoying [22:06:05] you know what else is massive [22:06:14] 7 hours on a train and I'd be the other end of the UK @the_mrbob [22:06:18] not in current time, but the last storms that came west destroyed some trees etc [22:06:23] _low taper fade šŸŽµ_ [22:06:24] Takes 6 hours (if we include traffic) to get from CenCal to LA. [22:06:27] most of Europeans don't, but I do [22:06:47] i honestly find amazing the fact that yall don't use trains lmao [22:06:49] [1/2] my wiki is temporary unavalible [22:06:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333558863357804605/image.png?ex=679954f9&is=67980379&hm=43f87471a0aa8fb1d2384af7590b21ce7944368ae5470b75f9e5e9f1fec6b5ea& [22:06:52] like everyone does but yall [22:06:53] Well not at this time of night, there'd be no trains till about 5am now [22:06:57] OK. [22:06:58] As is every wiki [22:06:58] they are working on it [22:07:07] Itā€™s a widespread issue lol. Just be patient. [22:07:09] US also severely lacks proper civilian train infrastructure. [22:07:14] well, in france we got night train idk if everyone has that [22:07:21] in the US everyone either has a stupid big car or is given a ride because you can't really get anywhere in a geographic majority of the country without one [22:07:24] we have imaginary california hsr [22:07:30] yeah [22:07:35] to be built sometime in the next 50 years [22:07:44] cars designed to stomp toddlets [22:07:48] Donā€™t even mention that šŸ˜­ [22:07:58] and wheelchairs etc, indeed [22:08:07] that one meme about china and california saying they'll build a train network [22:08:13] I remember they announced that crap around the last time the orange guy got elected, right? [22:08:19] 2015 [22:08:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333559253633339472/Fy07RAXXoAAzDZP.jpg?ex=67995556&is=679803d6&hm=11ee59e5ae433478d2e8f4886124478f7c86908a3a4968e5a172b72170826ded& [22:08:24] they started construction then [22:08:26] We have 2 sleeper trains. The CalSleeper and Night Riveria. [22:08:38] Now itā€™s billions in the hole and theyā€™ve shortened its planed route so now itā€™s basically useless (to me). [22:08:50] story of US transit [22:08:52] At least youā€™ll ā€œwinā€ every car crash you get into (actual quote) [22:09:01] Iā€™m getting a weird error message. Something about a ā€œDBConnectionErrorā€. The update was supposedly completed a while ago, so whatā€™s going on? [22:09:01] constantly sabotaged in a self eating cycle [22:09:07] they are currently building the bakersfield to merced connection [22:09:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333559492801069066/eIMh6tt.png?ex=6799558f&is=6798040f&hm=c0602221abac770be850a2b91c3268d4cf216ee069de487e727b0524119bdf85& [22:09:20] bro's car look like a dumpster, and funnily enough the country is slowly going to look like aburning one [22:09:24] so dumpy place to home of the uc that no one wants to go to! [22:09:30] See, now why would I want to go to Bakersfield [22:09:39] When should this be resolved by? [22:09:42] so you're saying the system has a bit of load [22:09:42] Thatā€™s like willingly going to Detroit [22:09:49] bakersfield is probably worse [22:09:55] cuz there's bakers there (that's joke jail time for me) [22:09:56] never been to detroit [22:09:58] but bakersfield [22:10:01] its something [22:10:09] I think the update broke Miraheze. [22:10:12] bro've seen everything [22:10:23] Fresno always shits on Bakersfield. Itā€™s ingrained in our collective culture. [22:10:24] the timing is uncanny but I got here after the event [22:10:39] who is Fresno [22:10:48] Ok, youā€™re going in the hole. [22:10:55] How long is a piece of string [22:10:58] fresno is still bad [22:11:03] but not as bad as bakersfield or redding [22:11:04] Yes [22:11:11] https://tenor.com/view/sad-mario-walking-in-rain-mario-sad-mario-walking-gif-7966847823215482947 [22:11:12] Dude who's fresno?? [22:11:14] i'm no american [22:11:19] i'm french [22:11:21] Itā€™s a city and county [22:11:24] city in the california valley [22:11:28] central valley [22:11:30] oh okay [22:11:39] i'm a geography nerd and still never heard of it until today [22:11:46] now i'll know [22:11:50] LMAO [22:11:53] Itā€™s one of Californiaā€™s more prominent cities [22:12:04] we hit raid alert [22:12:08] Unlike Bakersfield [22:12:16] I can't reach any miraheze wiki [22:12:18] its really not that prominent [22:12:22] surprisingly enough i've never heard of it until today [22:12:34] Just like you probably never heard of Nantes [22:12:36] or Brest [22:12:45] when people think of california they only think sf, la, and san diego [22:12:49] one of the DBs are down [22:12:50] It produces a lot of the valleyā€™s produce and has a population of over a million [22:12:51] Miraheze is down for a moment [22:12:52] Someone should probably make an announcement about this lol [22:12:56] thank you [22:12:57] and gavin newsom [22:13:00] [1/2] or up [22:13:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333560420107161672/TT9Q02C.png?ex=6799566c&is=679804ec&hm=6fc1fe54a4ca3ef7ee017a74afe269b24bf215d5debb352c2492f83c20bd25db& [22:13:01] exact [22:13:05] not exact [22:13:08] what is that [22:13:19] No way people think of San Diego when they think of CA. [22:13:20] our governor [22:13:25] lmao [22:13:26] actually correction [22:13:30] thought it was a place [22:13:33] Iā€™ve heard of San Diego maybe twice [22:13:39] no when i think of a californian governor i think of Arnold [22:13:44] (the only one i know lmao [22:13:47] What happened to the wiki [22:13:48] when they think of california they see LOS ANGELES [22:13:54] it's down temporarily [22:13:55] I hope no data was lost! A DBConnectionError is very scary. [22:13:57] HOLLYWOOD [22:13:57] can't you just look up bruh [22:13:58] RICH PEOPLE [22:14:04] FIRE [22:14:08] ah no i mean [22:14:09] Silicon Valley too [22:14:09] Ah the wiki service is down, alright! [22:14:11] RICHā€ˆPEOPLEā€ˆONā€ˆFIRE [22:14:20] they associate it with rich tech bros [22:14:25] agreed [22:14:26] But if you live in CA, Fresno is definitely a pretty notable city [22:14:27] not as silicon valley [22:14:34] Iā€™m not talking from a foreignerā€™s perspective [22:14:41] yeah then [22:14:45] i'm not saying it isn't, just that is isn't as known as the rest on the international field [22:14:45] Iā€™m talking from a residentā€™s perspective [22:14:50] and not Oakland šŸ’” [22:14:53] do we know how long the wikis will be down [22:15:01] most californians who do not live under a rock should know what fresno is [22:15:04] Fresno is fairly notable [22:15:09] bro's profile is Oakland [22:15:10] No. One of the enginners is working on it [22:15:10] I still remember the day we got mentioned in a Jack Stauber video [22:15:16] ok cool thx [22:15:17] did you ask the mayor to pay you bills for advertisement :trol: [22:15:18] That moment shook me [22:15:25] SHENG THAO!!!!!!!!!!!! [22:15:28] can we have more than one engineer working on it [22:15:40] Fresno? [22:15:44] Iā€™d live California but Iā€™d die without In and Out [22:16:02] the place where the drive through lanes block the actual road [22:16:08] in and out! [22:16:11] Yep! [22:16:14] [1/2] We're all unpaid volunteers. [22:16:15] [2/2] And we lack engineers šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø [22:16:22] The best fast food place to work ngl [22:16:37] sorry, theres only one engineer in the universe who can fix miraheze's stroke for us [22:16:42] can we hire engineers [22:16:51] You can get a 401k even if youā€™re part time [22:16:51] idk, my hometown never gets mentionned cuz it's too small except last year because there was a big flood there (yipee), my birthtown isn't mentionned a lot either but it's bigger than my hometown. The town i live atm gets mentionned fairly commonly because it's a commune of one of the largest and most known french cities: Lille [22:16:53] can we become engineers [22:17:02] if you have skills and background sure [22:17:07] what if i dont [22:17:15] then outta luck [22:17:17] Everyone asks where are the engineers but nobody asks how are the engineers [22:17:19] :( [22:17:23] bad [22:17:36] It's cuz we know the answer: Stressed the fuck out atm [22:17:36] @z3dt Watch your language. [22:17:37] I assume like this: [22:17:38] why are engineers [22:17:45] who are engineers [22:17:50] when are engineers [22:17:51] is true tbh [22:17:53] my city is just collectively lumped in with san francisco [22:17:54] https://tenor.com/view/station19-maya-bishop-fire-extinguisher-putting-out-fire-extinguishing-fire-gif-27069901 [22:17:55] engineers? [22:17:58] No better time than the present [22:17:59] are engineers? [22:17:59] why are the engineers [22:18:01] Get into that github [22:18:06] Just like Tourcoing with Lille [22:18:08] :loveyou: [22:18:09] Roubaix as well [22:18:15] git gud can begin at any time [22:18:21] trio of French Nordic Death (and poverty fr fr) [22:18:25] any prospective engineers begin the path today [22:18:27] r u french [22:18:31] Could be worse, we literally ate Clovis [22:18:32] yes [22:18:42] what a chat [22:18:43] a city being called clovis is a funny idea [22:18:44] And LA as an actual city is pretty small. [22:18:47] Remember always publish everything directly without any testing or documentation [22:18:49] :loveyou: [22:18:52] But it ate like 100 other cities [22:18:57] Why? [22:19:06] test your changes in prod, best way to troubleshoot yes [22:19:08] it's the name of an old french king [22:19:17] like prolly lived at least 500 years ago [22:19:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333562000071987313/IMG_3027.png?ex=679957e5&is=67980665&hm=559d673e899bd5187d5edea76b3eca45b7fd75985a2b05c8dc149519e2548b13& [22:19:24] Bad bad place to be [22:19:32] ok mb 1500 years ago [22:19:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_I [22:19:46] that guy [22:19:59] There mustā€™ve been a lot of people named frank [22:20:05] [1/2] Well, looks like I got something, bad. [22:20:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333562200429826078/image.png?ex=67995814&is=67980694&hm=5d3bdf33ef1bfdba72569808b1ecdda198111f1bf6c8e98020b550e1457860cd& [22:20:18] Will never be able to comprehend who thought ā€œLlanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogochā€ was a good town name [22:20:21] one of the databases is having a day [22:20:22] lmao the Franks are why france is called france [22:20:25] [1/2] this is what people think the bay area is [22:20:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333562284957765662/image.png?ex=67995829&is=679806a9&hm=892397d1746d669aa17d016f24dfeda5e58dc94be5430c5ea9ff634a00e90dca& [22:20:33] and yep, lot of FranƧois [22:20:41] agent is going in to kill it since asking nicely didnt work [22:20:42] As someone who has lived in Ca since birth, even I see it as this [22:20:58] please dont say you call it san fran [22:21:03] ok i'm curious to know which french cities you know apart from paris [22:21:04] they use that name on purpose iirc [22:21:12] to get more tourists and stuff [22:21:27] the real/old town name is shorter [22:21:27] [1/2] wuh oh [22:21:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333562547026137098/image.png?ex=67995867&is=679806e7&hm=eb67fc0cc81a0ee2f21faeae6c5d4a4d022257db8fe09a730372b366d3105a74& [22:21:36] We're aware [22:21:39] TaumatawhakatangihangakoauauoTamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu honest reaction [22:21:41] gotcha my bad [22:21:42] They're working on it [22:21:47] [1/2] What people think when they hear LA [22:21:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333562627238002698/IMG_3028.png?ex=6799587a&is=679806fa&hm=1484d36bef3028f4bd81791dfc22e100d33b1e721b6d450401844b594928d068& [22:21:54] normandy, brittany, le havre only because of ww2 [22:21:59] les angels [22:22:01] i am in fact not a geography nerd [22:22:06] the first two are regions... [22:22:11] yeah then no [22:22:13] [1/2] What LA actually is [22:22:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333562738227810406/image0.jpg?ex=67995895&is=67980715&hm=0ed15c1e073aaeb0d14a4f128b2df2165b3a8e5f93d88f2bdac823b183b449a6& [22:22:14] zero [22:22:17] but yeah aight [22:22:21] le havre is a real city [22:22:30] Actual LA has a population of 3.8 million [22:22:34] surprising that you know the havre but not like Lyon or Strasbourg [22:22:36] Any more errors? [22:22:55] i love annexation [22:22:55] brb driving to utah to pour a few buckets on the servers [22:23:06] i know someone from Utah [22:23:08] could ask him [22:23:11] Find a Latter Day Saint šŸ™‚ [22:23:15] with a bit of luck they don't live too far away [22:23:15] [1/14] ----------- [22:23:15] [2/14] šŸ”“ Varnish XID 77103907 Error 503 cp37 [22:23:16] [3/14] ----------- [22:23:16] [4/14] šŸ”“ MediaWiki internal error. [22:23:16] [5/14] Original exception: [1853fe3651cd55ba9d3a0807] 2025-01-27 21:30:00: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBConnectionError" [22:23:17] [6/14] Exception caught inside exception handler. [22:23:17] [7/14] ----------- [22:23:17] [8/14] šŸ”“ (Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Too many connections (db171)) [22:23:18] [9/14] ----------- [22:23:18] [10/14] šŸ”“ https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/auth/login/mediawiki:mediawiki.meta/ [22:23:18] [11/14] Unhandled Exception ("HTTPFutureHTTPResponseStatus") [22:23:19] [12/14] [HTTP/500] Internal Server Error [22:23:19] [13/14] ----------- [22:23:20] [14/14] How many do you want? šŸ˜„ [22:23:22] Again, is someone going to release an announcement here on Discord? [22:23:25] as is mine [22:23:27] or nah [22:23:36] funniest shape lmao [22:23:37] Goddess d__n it, so many errors [22:23:40] i remember seeing a video about it [22:23:40] Now I want to see a parody film where LA ā€œannexesā€ its neighboring cities like some action film. [22:23:54] a minor announcement is possible and may be required, a full announcement requires admin and some select roles rarely on hand in time [22:24:02] but isn't like every american metropolis doing that anyways [22:24:05] heres a fun question. do you think palo alto and east palo alto are in the same county? [22:24:10] like memphis or smth did that no? [22:24:16] Thatā€™s literally just how metropolitan areas work [22:24:33] Palo Alto spoilers ||I'd imagine if you're asking that question that one's in San Mateo and one's in Santa Clara? didn't know that, that's cool|| [22:24:36] working on it, we're trying to restart the server and if we succeed itll be fixed soon [22:24:36] Hello quick question about lard. Need open storage to dry out after you cook it up. Can I just put it in a barrel or what's the best way? [22:24:40] possibly @nibblypup could do the honors but it would only be essentially it is known that things are down and miraheze is working on it, will be an update when possible [22:24:42] yeah but i mean there's a lot of ways to make it work out, some are just englobing the rest [22:24:45] Hey uh [22:24:54] I think thereā€™s a teensy weensy little issue [22:24:58] mystical announcement [22:24:58] so an announce at this point isn't super needed if we fix it in a few minutes [22:25:10] I mean they both have ā€œpaloā€ in their name, whatever that means. So sure. [22:25:12] I like having official recognition on file myself tbh [22:25:19] even if it's rather short [22:25:19] fair [22:25:21] "stick" in Spanish [22:25:30] wronggggg. palo alto is in santa clara county, east palo alto is in san mateo county! [22:25:32] ifg we find the cause more so yeah [22:25:34] seeing the question i'm quite sure they have like 3 different counties [22:25:40] east palo alto used to be ghetto but is now rich people [22:25:41] just like the eection zone thing [22:25:43] "alto" is tall, by the way [22:25:43] we also rarely do followup when things go out [22:25:47] i find that funny as well [22:25:49] palo alto is still full of rich people [22:25:49] I forget how many forgettable counties CA has [22:25:57] a lot of Spanish city names in the US are interesting [22:26:07] I find it funny every time I drive by Los BaƱos (The Bathrooms) [22:26:18] we are now recovering, apologies for the downtime [22:26:20] For some reason Orange county is a very memorable one, even though its name is a lie and theyā€™re not very ā€œbigā€ or special. [22:26:21] Most are copies of European places [22:26:25] [1/2] russia's real size [22:26:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333563793195794483/image.png?ex=67995990&is=67980810&hm=47b46a341f8abd77db287ef9d5c1e91aab8c3b7f11ae860c3eb7604f1d1baa34& [22:26:26] just wait until you hear how we pronounce them [22:26:29] Guess because their name is so simple [22:26:31] there's always forgettable counties and regions, then there is the King Ranch County, biggest county ever [22:26:36] san rafael, san rah-fell [22:26:42] (it was meant to mean "the baths", but it certainly sounds a lot more like "the bathrooms" to me) [22:26:46] Ranch? Like the condiment? [22:26:47] oh trust me, I know [22:26:52] I live in the Bay [22:27:02] no the Ranch like there's cows n horses inside [22:27:02] Disneyland likely [22:27:03] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:27:05] its a good way to tell if someone is a local [22:27:06] with big ass plains [22:27:06] some are, some aren't [22:27:07] IS BACK [22:27:16] bencia buh-nee-sha [22:27:18] yeah [22:27:19] King Ranch County, TX [22:27:23] [1/2] I forgot we have ā€œshastaā€ county šŸ’€ [22:27:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333564039376408718/image0.jpg?ex=679959cb&is=6798084b&hm=af0c128d9b1769fd1161fcd4db155e71c07282c75d183f4396aaa7b1ff810933& [22:27:24] try San Pedro (in LA) [22:27:29] (my uncle lives there) [22:27:36] When I hear shasta I only can think of the crappy soda [22:27:55] WOOO we're back online [22:27:56] epic [22:27:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Ranch [22:28:02] win! [22:28:10] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta [22:28:11] [2/2] META is up and running [22:28:11] thank agent [22:28:12] orange being orange: šŸŸ  [22:28:25] omg it's working [22:28:25] thank you agent <3 @agentisai [22:28:26] lets go [22:28:28] They barely produce oranges anymore [22:28:31] you guys are the goats [22:28:39] i think they were named after the city [22:28:41] or the river [22:28:43] who knows [22:28:47] <0phiuchus.> Nice work guys, weā€™re back [22:28:54] Like, who on Earth has heard of ā€œglenn countyā€ (sorry glenn fans) [22:29:00] we also have nevada county [22:29:04] which is in california [22:29:09] And Nevada city right? [22:29:16] we are so back [22:29:23] it is the county seat of nevada county [22:29:27] of course [22:29:37] You know that America is called after a little village called America, right?! [22:29:56] isn't it named after Amerigo Vespucci, a contemporary of Columbus's? [22:29:59] I actually have no clue of the names of the continent on which I reside [22:30:19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America,_Netherlands [22:30:21] USA is a really generic name though [22:30:36] it's the other way around [22:30:45] America in the Netherlands is named after the continent [22:30:46] United States of America. Because itā€™s a bunch of united statesā€¦ in America. [22:30:49] Amerigo Vespucci is the right answer [22:30:55] Yeah [22:30:59] Iā€™ve heard this before, but wasnā€™t sure. [22:31:02] which is named after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci (Latin: Americus Vesputius) [22:31:16] Also because how did Amerigo become America [22:31:19] Latin [22:31:24] imagine your country is called Canada because the first people to arrive are people who don't give a fuck about pronunciation and even about local native vocabulary so they call your country "village" [22:31:26] i think its the generally agreed upon fact [22:31:43] linguistic shifting [22:31:46] and that village might be the us of a's 51st state! [22:31:48] there's a lot of stuff like that [22:31:56] I thought that was greenland [22:32:02] greenland honest reaction [22:32:05] no, we're going to war with greenland [22:32:09] o i c [22:32:15] in this case it's just Latin [22:32:16] Americus [22:32:18] greenland being called "green" land because it was green when discovered will never not be funny to me [22:32:22] as well [22:32:26] America being...a genitive form? [22:32:32] i don't know [22:32:36] Wiqipedia [22:32:41] it's funny when compared with Iceland [22:32:43] Nah... He said that about Canada [22:33:05] he wants to annex that too, but I don't think as the 51st state [22:33:07] theories says that they called iceland "ice"land because they wanted more people to go to greenland (and not iceland instead) [22:33:14] i love it but i don't think it's real [22:33:18] even though it sounds cool [22:33:18] And Iceland was discovered in Winter šŸ˜„ [22:33:27] a 69th state? [22:33:34] The 420 states of America [22:33:48] Iceland is so smol. I hear itā€™s a beautiful place though. [22:33:49] <.guardianx., replying to rodejong> Sorry, I just meant that the version 2022 of skin vector apparently is now only using vector-2022.css/.js where it used (or rather, accept as A use(?)) vector.css/.js [22:33:56] The United Skibidies of America (USA) [22:34:09] It isn't. Greenland was discovered during athe medieval warm period so it was green. That's the story [22:34:12] Wiki issue seems fixed [22:34:13] no tbh i see trump as a massive toddler who somehow have found no one to stop him [22:34:31] You talk about the Legacy Skin [22:34:36] Why does Trump want Greenland? Does he just hate Denmark? Or do they have oil under that ice. [22:34:43] i'm talking about the second theory [22:34:45] resources [22:34:46] > The notion that Iceland's Viking settlers chose that name to discourage the settlement of their verdant isle is most likely a myth. [22:34:49] Or is it him being schizo [22:34:51] i just agreed upon greenland being green though [22:35:02] he is secretly of swedish descent [22:35:05] plus it has a pretty good strategic placement for national defense [22:35:14] right in between europe and america [22:35:18] alright i'll sleep less dumb [22:35:40] Honest Nuuk resident reaction: [22:35:44] There are many raw natural sources in Greenland, which wasn't reachable untill now, where everything is melting [22:35:44] German and Scottish, apparently [22:35:44] https://tenor.com/view/hang-suizide-desgosto-suicide-rope-gif-15405316 [22:35:48] <.guardianx., replying to rodejong> Kinda? It seems like Vector and vector-2022 both used vector.css/.js up to this patch. After this patch I had to place vector-2022 css and JS settings in the location you talked about. [22:35:52] Iā€™m glad I donā€™t drink coffee, because I have a feeling those tariffs are going to mess up coffee prices [22:36:01] this too [22:36:17] the tarriffs just got rescinded [22:36:18] i honestly am wondering how greenlandic people are feeling atm [22:36:21] like [22:36:24] wtf is going on even [22:36:32] so enjoy your coffee from colombia [22:36:42] Anyway, does anybody need any Miraheze related support? [22:36:46] What about their 50% tariffs on us? [22:36:51] not sure [22:36:52] I wasn't aware of that. But it seems logical to have that separate [22:37:07] if they do I'd recommend a support thread unless it's very small, at least while chat is busy [22:37:56] [1/2] The call for independence is growing again. [22:37:56] [2/2] They are autonomous, but dependent on our navy and defence [22:37:59] I really appreciate splitting vector themes, I found the overlap rather annoying [22:38:06] <.guardianx., replying to rodejong> Yeah it was just a strange happenstance I think that vector.css/js worked or something because thats where I was putting my CSS for vector-2022 [22:38:53] right, now that sona pona's back up I'll be off [22:38:54] how do you feel, as a danish? [22:38:55] see you all [22:38:58] You can just move them over [22:39:02] i'm intrested to see both sides of the situation [22:39:32] I'm Dutch living in Denmark. So I am not having opinions on it [22:39:45] I still wish I kept my old CSSes now to retool into a base one [22:40:32] I generally stay neutral on politics [22:40:44] <.guardianx., replying to rodejong> hehe I did, it was more a PSA for anyone else that was in my boat doing strange things breaking things >< [22:40:54] <44nifty> [1/2] portable infobox builder gets stuck loading, anyone know whats going on with it [22:40:55] <44nifty> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333567441174794361/image.png?ex=67995cf6&is=67980b76&hm=8f87a8b06b515ffb029fba152267e74fac079ff53aabec9486205663a5d1f7ef& [22:41:00] alright [22:41:07] well intresting anyways [22:41:22] <44nifty> nevermind of course it finished loading as soon as i said that [22:41:46] [1/2] oop the update i think broke my wiki [22:41:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333567656107708496/image.png?ex=67995d29&is=67980ba9&hm=382c2560b350c7708e66ea82d0c6e09cd2447c9e846d165a70197ab1c9efbecd& [22:42:04] does anyone know how to get the protection indicators [22:42:46] might be a caching issue, try clearing your cache or reloading with ctrl shift r [22:43:31] Nevermind it fixed itself somehow lol [22:47:17] That is just something that occasionally happens when the CSS doesn't properly load [22:49:42] When you protect a page, the indicator will appear on top [22:49:53] its disabled by default right [22:50:16] pages are by default not protected. [22:50:29] im talking about the protection indicator setting [22:50:39] the new one with version 1.43 [22:50:44] i cant find the setting for it [22:50:50] They appear as soon as you protect a page [22:52:05] IIRC not on Main Page though [22:54:01] do i need to toggle a setting though to get it to work [22:55:01] Link please to the protected page? [22:56:24] [1/2] im talking about this setting [22:56:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333571341206552606/image.png?ex=67996098&is=67980f18&hm=d01ae9a900a3e82ea52bcbb08d751e06ccc6c0c63c6b1018663016eb3858624e& [22:56:30] <0phiuchus.> [1/2] Weā€™re having a slight issue since the recent outage on 1d6chan.miraheze [22:56:30] <0phiuchus.> [2/2] Any pages in the 1d6chan: namespace have suddenly disappeared and any links to them have obviously reverted to redlinks. [22:56:32] its new with 1.43 [22:56:46] <0phiuchus., replying to 0phiuchus.> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333571429970739221/IMG_0043.png?ex=679960ad&is=67980f2d&hm=e3b2da4e0a047cf19fc217fe069fa6c94bae286ba9b3ea2434db6b4d9005799a& [22:57:12] <0phiuchus.> Any insight on this issue would be appreciated. [22:58:20] Please create a support post for this. [22:58:52] I'll check [22:58:58] thanks [23:00:46] Itā€™s a bug with CreateWiki [23:00:52] it usually resolves by itself [23:08:19] [1/2] @agentisai Protection indicators are now bundled in core - Rather than copying protection indicators from Wikipedia, MediaWiki now natively bundles them in core. This can be controlled via $wgEnableProtectionIndicators. [23:08:20] [2/2] This is not a setting in ManageWiki as far as I can see. [23:08:57] It has not been added yet. [23:09:03] It will be. [23:09:07] Ah... [23:09:12] Thanks [23:09:31] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1333574498288668732 [23:09:44] good to know [23:09:45] thank you [23:15:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333576260487745548/image0.jpg?ex=6799652d&is=679813ad&hm=4f635743aab2ff5ade79e08b6bb1fcc362e6ee23aa91e9bc3a498f8e20038200& [23:16:06] https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-16078907558888063471 [23:16:15] o7 @abaddriverlol [23:17:54] Link to diff or it didn't happen šŸ˜› [23:18:18] hi um i dont mean to be annoying but how long does a wiki request take to be accepted if the ai put it on hold ? ^^ [23:18:41] how long is a piece of string? šŸ˜‰ [23:18:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:PixDeVl#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20250127221100-Tech_News:_2025-05 [23:18:53] nah jokes aside, its whenever a volunteer is able to look [23:18:53] Still donā€™t get that [23:18:57] Depends a lot [23:19:01] Exactly [23:19:03] Iā€™m not sure about on hold specifically [23:19:06] Thats the whole point heh [23:20:06] i also added warnings when creating broken redirects in december [23:20:22] neither made it in 1.43 unfortunately [23:20:35] @pixldev im gonna work on another bot, miraheze specific one for spam etc to open up the possibility of being able to send events to irc/matrix in the future if needed heh [23:20:51] alright, thank you ! : ] [23:20:58] Do you have a link to your gerrit profile [23:21:03] Certified based [23:21:13] Ooooh [23:21:15] Just because i wanna look at them but i cant be arsed to try and find your profile [23:21:18] Cross moderation? [23:21:21] yeah 1 sec [23:21:30] Thats the idea [23:21:43] So if you have any "must haves" lmk [23:21:54] Hm [23:22:04] Maybe we could do canned messages in that [23:22:09] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/owner:thisisnotmyname275@gmail.com [23:22:23] Ie I type a shortcut and it sends a answer to a common question [23:22:35] Iā€™d talk to the rest of the mod team bout it [23:22:45] Legend, nice work [23:22:48] Is it intend to integrate with or replace @Dyno ? [23:22:49] new code colours look epic [23:22:56] Ah yes that was the first think i was gonna implement [23:23:08] thx [23:23:38] Idk, i guess thats up to the mod team if they wanna use it or not. If not it will be an MVP in the ever abyss [23:23:41] To answer with less jokes, the queue has been bouncing around between a 3 and 8 day wait for review depending on our volunteer availability [23:24:45] We aim to implement some automation in the very near future to make the review process less variable. [23:24:51] DeepSeek when [23:26:20] Self hosting soon hopefully [23:31:26] thanks ^ - ^ [23:43:47] [1/4] * Edit patrollers now have a new feature available that can highlight potentially problematic new pages. When a page is created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted, a tag (`'Recreated'`) will now be added, which users can filter for in `[[{{#special:RecentChanges}}]]` and `[[{{#special:NewPages}}]]`. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56145] [23:43:47] [2/4] * Later this week, there will be a new warning for editors if they attempt to create a redirect that links to another redirect (a `[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Redirects#Double redirects|double redirect]]`). The feature will recommend that they link directly to the second redirect's target page. Thanks to the user `SomeRandomDeveloper` for this improvement. [https://phabricator.wiki [23:43:48] [3/4] media.org/T326056] [23:43:48] [4/4] These are two great updates!!