[00:43:04] [1/2] my friend's wiki is really bizarre on my end can someone help? [00:43:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333598181996363870/IMG_4883.png?ex=67997997&is=67982817&hm=eee31b83691960c09daac32c80a784bb407a0496ab79206c4eda0ff7a6582cd1& [00:44:17] [1/3] the main icon wont show [00:44:18] [2/3] background wont show [00:44:18] [3/3] the images are glitched [00:45:53] yeah, logo icon won't show on mine and my users can't upload images atm. is the team still working on issues that happened from the changes today? [00:46:26] oh thank goodness its not just my friend's issue [00:46:33] i see [00:46:43] i hope theyre fixed soon [00:49:47] Was the analytics update in #announcements referring to the recent graphs? Or is there something new im too blind to see... [00:50:43] Do wiki requests take long? My wiki request is urgent right now at the moment.. [00:55:33] what's the link to the portal again for wiki support? [00:57:41] I can’t really see how a request for a wiki can be urgent.. if there really is an extraneous circumstance I can take a look but otherwise [00:57:56] Wdym, restricted Changes? [00:58:56] [1/2] our wiki is a little busted from the upgrade today. we can't upload images at the moment and our logo has disappeared even though it's set correctly. [00:58:56] [2/2] "An unknown error occurred in storage backend "miraheze-swift"." [01:00:01] [[phorge]] [01:00:02]

[01:00:12] thank you [01:04:38] 5–8 days [01:04:44] Is what I've observed [01:04:51] Sometime less, sometimes more [01:05:33] In the meantime you can familiarize yourself with Miraheze and prepare pages on Google docs or another notekeeping app. [01:05:40] Then you can transfer it to Miraheze [01:06:49] Sometimes, when I can't access Miraheze in the moment, I'll even write down infobox source and then later "transfer" it over. [01:06:51] I mean my friend has submitted a wiki for our group chat’s fictional world, and it’s pretty much time sensitive. Can you take a look please? [01:08:00] Can you your request? [01:08:35] Hold on let me ask them [01:09:19] You do know wiki requests are public right? [01:09:52] Oh I didn’t know that 😭 But they sent me the link [01:09:58] Here [01:10:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/54233 [01:11:05] Yeah, anyone can view the queue and inspect the contents of a request; including any discussions between you and the reviewer. So make sure not to put any super private stuff in it. [01:11:06] [1/2] is rhis happening to other ppl too after the upgrade? Just to confirm [01:11:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333605240603279460/image.png?ex=6799802a&is=67982eaa&hm=0f6794fc0600529653c772853b0b958715e2dedf2e5573cc763540af882d20d5& [01:11:22] *that you don't want others maybe seeing [01:11:25] sorry for the odd text color css is still wip* [01:11:39] though very few people just go through requests—I'm an outlier in that regard [01:11:57] Pretty much [01:13:02] Oh well good thing they didn’t do anything rash lol [01:13:41] yes, I just opened a ticket about this [01:14:24] [1/2] tried to log into summitpedia (technically antonball.miraheze but shhh) and i got this [01:14:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333606070798782596/image.png?ex=679980f0&is=67982f70&hm=d413c9a0f5f2b8a5a4ae870277e1a687ed426ba9fc5d11fe940e78ae82267592& [01:14:30] but im logged in on the PT wiki [01:14:35] All of my CSS from MediaWiki:Vector.css seems to have stopped working after the update [01:14:36] I’m pretty much desperate for someone to review this tho (no pressure, they can view it on their own time) since this thing’s time sensitive, and maybe after our assignment is done we can continue it after [01:14:49] I have the same issue [01:14:53] seems to be a problem with private wikis [01:15:33] I just counted manually and you're around ~#200 in the queue [01:16:05] Will this wiki be in use for only a short time? [01:16:39] had to sign in on meta for it to work, whoops [01:16:43] [1/5] I'm unable to use search on any wikis since the upgrade. [01:16:43] [2/5] https://pandorastale.wiki/w/index.php?go=Go&search=something&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns4=1&ns502=1&ns3006=1 [01:16:44] [3/5] I get [01:16:44] [4/5] >An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later. [01:16:44] [5/5] I see the same error on other wikis (including Meta). [01:16:45] I don't believe tempoary wikis are accepted (to my knowledge). Miraheze is intended for long-term wikis (hence why inactive ones are eventually deleted). [01:16:51] Not really, we’re indulged in it but it’s a class assignment so we have to get it up and running asap, but then when it’s all done we’d like to continue it after [01:18:21] Well, I would recommend you use something like Obsidian or Google Docs for now. The chances of the volunteers skipping 200 other requests to accept yours for special cause is slim to none. Though don't let me stop you from asking yourself, maybe they're feeling charitable idk. [01:19:01] But I wouldn't procrastinate your schoolwork for this. I'd recommend you start now using something else on the likely case you have to wait. [01:19:22] Clear your cookies [01:20:26] Thank you we’ll make sure to keep that in mind but it’d be nice if they are feeling charitable 😭 [01:22:47] [1/2] Notion is also great, but it costs money if you have multiple people on one project. So while it'd likely work better than Miraheze in this case even, only if you're willing to pay their ludicrous fees lol. If you need a fast wiki, Fandom is also always an option. Now, I hate Fandom. But it's great for making quick wikis. It's also far more user friendly (kee [01:22:47] [2/2] p in mind Miraheze can have a steep and frustrating learning curve for new users). And if you create an account with Fandom then the ads are minimal in all honesty [01:24:09] I mention the learning curve since you have iterated that this is a time sensitive project. So you may not have the time to learn how to use Miraheze to its best extent. [01:24:17] Anyone having issues with different files on the farm? My wiki logo isn't appearing [01:24:26] Give it a while [01:24:33] Sounds good, thank you [01:24:44] Also clearing you browsing cache can hekp [01:24:58] but everytime I've updated the favicon or logo it's taken a while to apply; same with skins [01:25:01] it's a bigger issue. my logo also isn't loading. [01:25:10] How long have you been waiting? [01:25:19] Also what file direct did you enter? [01:25:23] since the sites came back up after the database problems hours ago [01:25:33] Ah okay, yeah wasnt a new logo upload, has been the same for a while. and same timeline as Mebo [01:25:38] It's taken me maybe 30 minutes to apply in the past? [01:25:52] and the logo was working prior to the maintenance. it hasn't changed in two years [01:25:54] If it's been hours then yeah, that's unusual [01:26:13] You'll want to ask tech about that [01:26:29] Let me check if mine are fine [01:29:29] yeah im having problems with uploading files adter the upgrade [01:29:29] Mine seem to be fine. So not a total outage. But seeing as both of you and now Dexter are having issues, may be a bigger problem. [01:29:29] yes [01:29:29] seems to be related to private wikis as public wikis have loading images [01:29:29] [1/2] and I also get this issue with uploading files regardless of if it's private or not [01:29:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333609581112332318/ufTgzld.png?ex=67998435&is=679832b5&hm=3d6bc2edae8006339ba1529a3b094c5496ebaf8315196b336e43406addf50f7b& [01:29:29] yeah my public wiki logo is fine, just having that same error [01:29:30] Most images are fine, just seems to be my logo as far as I can tell. My wiki is semi-public. [01:29:30] You could file a ticket I suppose? [01:29:32] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13136 looks like there already is one [01:29:54] <44nifty> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333609968062169151/image.png?ex=67998491&is=67983311&hm=b37aefa17e07ad94c22a778e8bd780cbfcd260cbeb35359be3951a6ae93f23d4& [01:29:57] Sounds good [01:30:04] CSS seems to have just fixed itself [01:30:05] <44nifty> oh this is being discussed already [01:30:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333610066326065193/2025-01-27_19-28.png?ex=679984a9&is=67983329&hm=e1693e4278e5bbd4cecb2c81af60af4272b401d194e4329bc1918b4251c86b95& [01:30:20] Does Miraheze tracker use the same login info as Miraheze? [01:30:30] My saved password isn't working on it [01:30:34] you can log into it with mediawiki iirc [01:40:36] My friend also says that "google sites" is a good alternative; especially for school projects. So keep that in mind as another option as well I suppose. [01:45:54] I mean we don’t not allow them [01:46:06] Click login with mediawiki [01:46:19] my wiki's logo also isn't appearing. This also is happening to the wordmark for the Minerva skin and a custom header font, oddly enough [01:47:05] Ours isn’t temporary tho so I’m hoping we’re safe? [01:47:41] Yeah probably fine [01:48:00] <44nifty> i can't upload any images [01:48:06] Alright good [01:48:10] We're aware [01:48:28] <44nifty> a [01:49:43] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13136 [01:50:10] Okay cool people know :3 [01:50:19] Thanks, didn't notice that button before. [02:02:29] lol wut, was gonna check that task librarian sent... but well issue-tracker css don't seen to load for me xD, so kinda hard to decipher then xD. And yes I tried reloading the page multiple times [02:02:49] hm that's weird [02:02:53] it loads like normal for me [02:03:36] Just refresh. [02:03:50] Looks like the loading time took too long [02:04:01] done many times already, and tried a different browser, with same result [02:04:12] erm.. [02:04:45] No, no issues at my side either [02:05:00] Slow internet? [02:06:21] nah, other sites works fine, including MH wikis themselves [02:06:49] Weird. [02:13:25] <44nifty> [1/5] how can i get these to show the images and not text? [02:13:25] <44nifty> [2/5] (images for Advanced at Nothing, Jumping the Shark, Something Stupid, and Jellyfish Jams haven't been uploaded for obvious reasons) [02:13:25] <44nifty> [3/5] is this perhaps just another side effect of the issues we're experiencing right now [02:13:26] <44nifty> [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333620919452700693/image.png?ex=67998ec4&is=67983d44&hm=da37363947855e55a91d2aed8ca6f6a8c0cd2c51a282e0c06461749f90d30d7f& [02:13:26] <44nifty> [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333620919687450679/image.png?ex=67998ec4&is=67983d44&hm=97dc796902a2e57f9c0a62b0263d096bab0f1dd8ef47f8d0b83a7cf505ec79d0& [02:22:17] do you need to do File:Something.png or have u tried Something.png [02:23:03] <44nifty> doing it without file: still results the same [02:23:08] At the moment many are experiencing images not loading. So we cannot determine if it is a result of that update [02:23:10] @rodejong Robert [02:23:17] what time is it for you [02:24:46] 3.24 am [02:27:33] Go sleep! [02:27:48] [1/2] Any idea why parser tags and JS broke on my front page [02:27:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1333624542089707605/image0.jpg?ex=67999224&is=679840a4&hm=255f048dcbaf0dbf08df75d533c9940bebae3e35e1584afb2aab8992c0279aa4& [02:28:29] I [02:28:42] Update to MediaWiki 1.43 [02:28:56] It has made some changes. [02:29:07] im kinda surprised your wife doesnt get upset at you for wiking at 3 in the morning /hj [02:29:12] huh [02:29:19] 😄 [02:29:24] isn’t the upgrade automatically done by mh [02:29:37] do i needa go into managewiki and do something [02:29:39] It has been updated. [02:30:17] so… [02:30:19] That's likely to cause the changes. [02:30:36] ie if an extension hasnt been updated to 1.43 yet [02:30:46] or css values changed [02:45:28] After the upgrade, some wiki's need to move `MediaWiki:Vector.css` to `MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css` (plus the .js equivalent) in order for the custom CSS/JS to show. [02:47:37] Yeah, that's pinworthy [02:47:50] Also a bit goofy [02:47:57] (on MW’s part) [02:48:02] curious to the cause for that [02:48:04] I'll add something to minor announcements too unless pix has more energy [02:48:13] I'm still pretty out of it [02:48:20] I may have more energy but i also have math homework [02:48:23] i can see later [02:48:26] Fair [02:48:40] I wanna compile all the main issues we see to address them at once [02:48:59] I think they only have MediaWiki wiki's in mind. They don't really care about personal wiki's on farms [02:49:42] There could definitely be more representation of third parties in Wikimedia’s priorities yea [02:49:52] but i mean they get money for their projects so [02:50:36] even then though [02:50:37] silly [02:51:37] I agree. [02:53:41] Added [02:54:47] It works™️ [02:55:18] feel free to add we are aware of more issues and are currently triaging and investigating how to resolve them [02:55:51] Looks like agent may have already dealt with the search one [02:56:28] Or not… [02:56:45] Tomorrow is going to be a long day for some of us.. [02:56:47] Going to hold off until we have a cohesive list, don't want to suppress new reports [02:56:54] Fair [02:57:03] not that i can do much [02:57:25] Yet [02:57:46] To me images/swift are top issue, followed by search, and then DPL [02:57:56] I don’t think we can do anything about CSS? [02:58:45] But when we finish here a look back on how/what we did here and how we can improve in future updates(ie rolling release, push Nexttide more) would be good [02:59:35] all images broke on one wiki but not the other D: [03:00:05] if the images are located in the wiki's domain rather than the wikitide domain it seems to break it [03:00:14] oh huh yeah [03:00:23] fsr phighting.wiki is in wikitide and my private wiki is its own domain, im assuming bc its private? [03:00:30] yeah that's why [03:00:32] Yuppers [03:00:37] do you guys have the error already? [03:00:55] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13136 [03:00:57] To enforce authentication, if it’s on the wikitide one anyone can see the images [03:01:34] The images on Commons do load. [03:01:35] the wiki that user links doesnt appear to be authed?? [03:02:14] deep breath [03:02:35] tommorow is going to be a long day for infrastructure folks [03:02:39] D: [03:02:43] well.. atleast phwiki is ok LOL [03:02:48] Blame swift [03:02:52] tech issues sure are fun [03:02:59] mhm [03:03:06] y u p [03:03:30] im kinda surprised none of the wikis in beta rollout had this, but it was a pretty small pool [03:03:53] adverting early beta opt in and rolling release seems like the big things we should try [03:04:16] although if we stay on LTS we may not do this again for more than a year [03:04:39] I had no issues on my wiki either. [03:05:41] [1/4] 04:05 (am) [03:05:41] [2/4] 💤 [03:05:41]