[00:03:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TreeAndMenu [00:05:41] If you get it to work... give me a hawler. [00:11:41] [1/2] kind of [00:11:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337938938387759205/image.png?ex=67a9443c&is=67a7f2bc&hm=f58c5272eafc73b2ea051174d2bccbf180de98bb5990ca1c1f493525ac510dcd& [00:11:45] unreadable in dark mode [00:15:20] That's with a lot of skins [00:16:13] [1/2] When I visit wiki's in Citizen or Cosmos, they have light fonts. [00:16:14] [2/2] When I visit with my vector-2022 global settings, I can't read anything either [00:16:42] i mean it's meta on the default skin (vector 2022) [00:16:47] should still be readable imo [00:16:55] true [00:17:56] But look at for example the signatures. Like @pixldev uses dark mode or a dark skin. His signature is however undreadable in the default skin on Meta [00:18:58] Does Fandom's DiscordIntegrator work on Miraheze at all? I see this was asked back in 2022 to where the answer was no, but I'm asking again incase this changed. [00:19:04] I don’t typically use dark mode [00:20:43] I assumed, as your signature is all in light font and unreadable 😄 [00:21:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337941463547383848/image.png?ex=67a94696&is=67a7f516&hm=7895ebdffec245c3006efb40a75c1072a2530ba75572c4f226cac2974e6d767e& [00:22:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337941681860772021/image.png?ex=67a946ca&is=67a7f54a&hm=f45836c5be2fb1e04e125b84370be07130188b1f1ffc2dbf16a82d9e6cc38d61& [00:22:57] No your browser just doesn’t load it correctly [00:22:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337941785888161802/image0.jpg?ex=67a946e3&is=67a7f563&hm=7911b62712db5e007406c3f584607eeb2f8549277fabd512a56ae56520898f17& [00:23:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337941862367105165/image.png?ex=67a946f5&is=67a7f575&hm=e8e855cbe7a0434367db03609336057f6793eb5725aea9ddb6784cb4edd06ff2& [00:23:32] Seems like there is something wrong indeed [00:25:09] Maybe an older version that doesn’t support gradients [00:25:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337942392623599646/image.png?ex=67a94774&is=67a7f5f4&hm=247ec4c26d11abbd076599732535a9ab1a7be8f73564625cca5d8c775e3fba68& [00:25:33] hmmm. Incognito does show it [00:25:43] That's weird [00:26:18] [1/3] could just be a wikipedia import thing but is there something i'm missing [00:26:19] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337942619254292520/image.png?ex=67a947aa&is=67a7f62a&hm=51ca5af484f888c63da516081a5eb47df73068390f70db587f00b91923ede2bf& [00:26:19] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337942619682115584/image.png?ex=67a947aa&is=67a7f62a&hm=692ed7cb9c932d22574664e86fbd0f0deb1855b7d186387fbc7136d74bcd25be& [00:26:29] I like my fancy sig but ngl I’m getting tired of how stupidly long it is [00:26:37] this is like. my third time using the wikipedia military conflict infobox and the first time i've ran into this [00:27:16] [1/11] / After removal of the class "floatright" from WikiMedia (per 1.41) this needs to be added here / [00:27:16] [2/11] .floatright { [00:27:17] [3/11] margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em; [00:27:17] [4/11] clear: right; [00:27:17] [5/11] float: right; [00:27:17] [6/11] } [00:27:18] [7/11] .floatleft { [00:27:18] [8/11] margin: 0 0.5em 0.5em 0; [00:27:18] [9/11] float: left; [00:27:19] [10/11] clear: left; [00:27:19] [11/11] } [00:28:05] let me try that [00:28:09] I shortened mine yesterday as well [00:28:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337943086944227379/image0.jpg?ex=67a94819&is=67a7f699&hm=214d95ff9932df44e85f3a2fd7e9e5c1b0c38651a37b645362514ce7c5c54bbc& [00:28:20] It’s a carry over from Stoneworks wiki [00:28:26] how do fandom wikis always be first in google search [00:29:01] sweet sweet SEO engineering and making dirty moves that incontinence their users [00:29:15] that's not the right word auto-correct [00:29:28] hi frisk deltarune [00:29:30] oh [00:29:42] sdkashfdsbfsfsdgfdgbvcxb [00:29:52] so you gotta pray that the fandom wiki gets closed due to inactivity [00:30:08] They’re a massively large platform and have dedicated staff working to squeeze it [00:30:30] fighting a fandom wiki for SEo must be really hard then [00:30:39] If it’s a small wiki you can sometimes ask and they’ll comply [00:30:44] It can be done [00:30:53] The inconvenience I have in mind is for example they really don't want search engines to see the file pages. Apparently file pages are very bad for SEO so when you are unregistered and click on an image they do some annoying things and you can not see the actual file page [00:30:58] Especially if all the editor move over and more content is released [00:31:26] [1/2] Ie [00:31:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337943909967335454/image0.jpg?ex=67a948dd&is=67a7f75d&hm=9ee3f15b65ee59a2c060e911a5cfb6ae82c9da123a0bf08ffa05b7bde00a434e& [00:32:18] i thought duckduckgo was spyware [00:32:43] everything is a spyware if you ask extremist enough privacy enthusiast [00:33:42] Does it work? [00:33:42] we are spyware [00:33:50] how is miraheze speaking [00:34:05] nope, it's in both common css and the styles.css module [00:34:09] talking [00:34:20] Oh? [00:34:37] is there a place i can import the military conflict infobox without wikipedia ? [00:35:03] Try dev wiki? [00:35:07] there is an active spy in the word spyware [00:35:08] nothing is safe [00:35:11] What’s your source? [00:35:21] IIRC it didnt have it [00:35:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337944981582643252/image.png?ex=67a949dd&is=67a7f85d&hm=5769240fccfa9e6e11257fca0e74ca9a07c0b6f3ef159fa121fa00be92f0378e& [00:36:21] this video and YouTube and the fact that when i got a virus on my tablet only duckduckgo ads showed up and serveral other things changed to duckduckgo and i had duckduckgo eventhough i didnt instal it [00:36:45] fr? [00:36:53] Interesting, and suspicious [00:37:00] *on youtube [00:37:13] For things that may border on personal projects maybe [00:37:43] What is the link to your page? [00:37:52] https://sixsectors.miraheze.org/wiki/Razorvani_Civil_War [00:37:53] Weird, and sus [00:38:14] Although that’s not DDG itself [00:38:25] I suspect a virus or something used it as a wrapper or host [00:38:48] [1/2] https://sixsectors.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Navbar/styles.css?action=edit&redlink=1 [00:38:48] [2/2] Not relevant, but you do miss it [00:38:58] yeah i need to fix that [00:39:10] the navigation boxes are still a WIP though [00:39:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337945890748502056/IMG_4432.jpg?ex=67a94ab6&is=67a7f936&hm=5fa55d2d48075461368623b1827b343634fb250e126f5464c793894d9b70379c& [00:39:23] what if its a official wiki and the owners agree moving [00:39:38] Yeah they ain’t closing it [00:39:39] https://sixsectors.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Uses_TemplateStyles?action=edit&redlink=1 [00:39:48] Wait [00:40:01] Owners of the topic franchise or “the owners of the wiki” [00:40:07] franchise [00:40:12] potato chicken [00:40:26] The owners may be able to revoke its official status [00:40:30] [1/2] @avramforever : https://sixsectors.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki.Common.css [00:40:31] [2/2] This is empty [00:40:54] yeah, in general revoking official status on the old wiki I've been told is a no problem [00:41:24] by the owners of franchise anyways [00:41:44] so they can't ask to close it down [00:42:03] ehhhh, in theory they can send DMCA for assets franchise owners own [00:42:29] [1/2] @avramforever https://sixsectors.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_military_conflict [00:42:30] [2/2] The examples do work. so that's weird [00:42:36] Looking further [00:43:16] [00:44:07] yeah that's why i'm confused [00:44:07] In some cases, if the developer believes the use of their content on fandom causes harm to the brand or value of their creation and therefore doesn’t comply with fair use, the copyright holder can file a takedown request [00:44:16] To mixed results [00:44:34] @avramforever Could you try to add https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css to your https://sixsectors.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [00:44:57] where did you get that from pixldev [00:45:06] should i replace what's in there or just throw it under the current code [00:45:17] i have the current code saved so i suppose i could try both [00:45:27] replace [00:45:42] harming the brand has nothing to do with copyrights, which is the ground you say you could send a takedown request for [00:45:44] You can add the existing code later [00:46:06] Get what? [00:46:14] Some brands are more rigorous [00:46:33] umm, the general claim you mentioned in your message [00:46:34] Formula1 and Disney for example file claims constantly [00:46:50] Other brands don't as they see it as marketing value [00:47:10] In the US, legal precedent is that fair use is based on 4 factors [00:47:23] [1/4] >>> the purpose and character of your use [00:47:23] [2/4] the nature of the copyrighted work [00:47:23] [3/4] the amount and substantiality of the portion taken, and [00:47:24] [4/4] the effect of the use upon the potential market. [00:47:33] That last one is the relevant bit [00:47:34] i wonder if it's just leftover code from when i tried to make it in PI lol [00:48:06] Still sounds more like trademark claim than copyright claim to me [00:48:07] template data probably [00:48:27] shouldn't conflict [00:48:40] Shouldn't conflict though [00:48:52] I’m not familiar with trademark law personally, [00:50:00] wait [00:50:02] its fixe [00:50:02] d [00:50:04] fixed [00:50:11] i think the css just needed a minute to kick in [00:50:18] [1/2] Trademark means that you cannot use that logo for example. [00:50:18] [2/2] Like make a food shop with the famous McDonalds "M" even though you are Don McDonald, you can't use that name as a fastfood restaurant [00:50:18] maybe you are right, though the last thing of fair use I've always associated and seen used in form of monetary harm as a result of copyright infringement, not harm to the brand itself [00:50:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337948708209299557/image.png?ex=67a94d55&is=67a7fbd5&hm=bfe5b4bfdd2a49158e808a8fab5940fbc4740dc948b9933b2f3c9f6fab0c0615& [00:50:31] Nice! [00:51:08] True, but it's part of it [00:53:11] To be fair that’s definitely more common, but a case could be made [00:53:29] I suppose [00:53:42] I am off to bed! [00:53:49] 💤 [00:53:52] 🛌🏻 [00:54:16] eats your bed [00:54:24] good night! [00:54:33] ፨ [00:54:49] Example you may have saw before leaving Discord [00:54:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447104142729674755/1329521521957535894/Screenshot_2025-01-16_at_11.43.17_AM.png?ex=67a8f768&is=67a7a5e8&hm=47987978c194301da4a8bac1950fb27082d0058159cdfcdc2e405021192d2ad4& [00:55:16] what the hellç si that [00:55:19] the vandalism on MCW was legendary [00:55:48] creaking [00:56:03] If someone’s first impressions of Minecraft was this and stuff like this on an outdated vandal ridden wiki [00:56:16] and I mean, I feel like serving ads on the wiki in general could be harmful to entire Minecraft brand, I've heard publishers don't really enjoy where near their game there are sus ads [00:56:21] They’d probably think what the fuck is this absolute nonsense [00:56:37] That too, though to their credit Fandom has been working on improving that [00:56:44] yup [00:57:22] it's so strange to be chatting on Matrix, where it gets relayed to IRC and then finally to people on Discord [00:57:28] two layers or relays lol [00:57:59] Times that by god knows how many people who heard about this funny block game [00:58:06] And that can be serious money lost [00:58:24] Granted, for big MC, calling it pocket change would be hyperbole, but still [01:06:45] Frisk where is the matrix room that gets bridged here? [01:08:12] oh, it's just my personal server. It's 1 to 1 type bridge with only me in it powered by something funnily called heisenbridge [01:09:06] I really needed a bouncer not to lose messages if someone on Discord responds to me and doesn't realize I don't see messages on IRC when I'm offline, so that's a nice thing to have [01:17:13] Is there some sort of list of popular or well made Miraheze Wikis? [01:17:19] Public ones in specific. [01:17:44] there is one managed by justleafy https://justleafy.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Miraheze_wikis [01:17:51] that's all I'm aware of personally [01:19:35] Dang. [01:29:03] [1/2] There's the Gzetteer of Wikis [01:29:04] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Gazetteer_of_wikis [01:30:21] mmm [01:30:37] I should probably put the wiki I help maintain there [01:30:48] good to know [02:24:35] [1/2] https://digdug.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Character_infobox is there a way I can add a "physical description" header to separate everything under "Portrayed by"? [02:24:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1337972385596313701/image.png?ex=67a96363&is=67a811e3&hm=ddd75be6e0d018289b06347e979cdd2e80298b875e6854b694c3eabf0fc7a4f7& [02:51:15] do the same thing as ur title [02:51:46] ! colspan="2" style="font-size:125%" | Physical Description [03:22:51] hi. is there a way to change a prefix to another? [03:27:20] You mean an interwiki prefix? [03:27:49] no, i mean a namespace [03:28:02] ive just migrated and i have to change one namespace to another [03:37:31] Howdy folks, has anyone else encountered an issue where visual editor extension isn't working at all? [03:37:37] I don't see an option for it when I try to edit my wiki pages [03:45:19] this is fortunately why source editor is better [03:45:27] also aren't you that guy on twitter [03:49:36] how long ago did you enable it [03:49:56] a while ago [03:50:01] i just tried enabling and disabling it [03:50:02] it's never worked [04:16:26] Okay that’s weird [04:27:10] 53.5k xeets though [04:49:58] What should my course of action be? Do I need to submit a ticket for somene to look at it? [05:03:22] I want to make the title of my first page gone. How can I disable it? [05:24:28] `NOTITLE` [05:24:35] u must have the no title extension enabled [06:06:21] [1/3] hey @atxatx, the citizen overflow thing appears buggy [06:06:21] [2/3] [06:06:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1338028193860550656/Screenshot_2025-02-09-14-05-23-32_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=67a9975c&is=67a845dc&hm=946fa16c40b73c7db2f1cdf317ad129b85c16104d7ea618a7a52bb644bb3b0fa& [06:47:13] is it possible to create collapsible text? [06:47:30] or a text-sized image that has a text tooltip [06:50:20] [1/2] also, I see that Wikipedia has 'notes' that look like citations. I want to add these to my wiki as well, but I dont understand this. [06:50:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1338039263513677856/image.png?ex=67a9a1ab&is=67a8502b&hm=88eaa93dbb8f497b83f53588a114ee6090a50501dffb993a48fc044f475dbc6c& [06:55:16] put class mw-collapsible [06:55:24] mw-collapsed for closed by default [06:55:48] [1/2] also how do I remove the [edit edit source] after headings [06:55:48]