[00:02:00] ..yeah? [00:02:08] No reason to not [00:16:08] psst. hey chat. i forgot how to like. hide the page title for the main page. cause i tried looking at pizza tower wiki and i have no clue how it got like that. and i wanna do it on summitpedia [00:21:19] [[mediawiki:mainpage-title]] maybe [00:21:19] [00:21:22] It’s something like that [00:23:37] i blanked it, but it doesn't seem to be Doing anything [00:24:15] Visit the main page and add ?uselang=qqx to the end of the url [00:24:46] oh yeah. its still there [00:27:21] OH I GOT IT [00:27:24] IT WAS ``MediaWiki:Mainpage-title-loggedin`` [00:27:28] i had to blank that as well [01:05:16] You can't see the categories in that first image because I did something along the way that made the text black. So just image there are categories there. [01:43:46] [1/4] @tali64 crat here, these men are requesting page deletion [01:43:47] [2/4] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/Savoinism [01:43:47] [3/4] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/DELETED [01:43:47] [4/4] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/Rejuvenative_Hamburg_thought [01:49:58] Your request has been forwarded to the Steward team; I'm not quite sure if this falls within the scope of Global Administrators, so I'll err on the side of caution [01:50:22] Alr thx [01:50:31] Didn't know who's behind page deletion [01:58:44] This has been done, thanks for patience. [01:59:03] Bigdelete is locked to stewards and T&S, so steward requests board is a great option if it comes up again [02:22:13] Alright thanks [02:36:31] @tali64 Hello, I need a password reset on an account that I neglected to add an email address to [02:37:18] If you lose to password to the account and have no set email isn’t really anything we can do [02:38:21] I understand [02:38:57] If it’s a very new low risk account Tech may be able to help [02:39:18] It was the admin account of a personal wiki [02:40:43] No, not a personal wiki. Serioushall wiki. I didn't take admining that wiki very seriously so I neglected to write the password down [02:41:17] Yeah I don’t think we can do anything [02:41:24] I highly recommend just adding an email [02:41:38] I'm not sure if I can do that without logging in the first place [02:41:48] Are there other admins or bureaucrat [02:41:54] are you still logged in anywhere? [02:42:00] Might be one [02:42:03] And meant in general not now [02:42:23] They gave admin to me in the first place and they don't like the community they left, but I could ask them when they're awake [02:42:49] I’m not sure if you need a password to change email [02:43:01] Do you also have bureaucrat? [02:43:13] I don't know [02:44:36] If there's no way into the account I figured I might just make a new wiki and make sure I don't repeat the same mistakes [02:47:21] I mean if it’s a single person public wiki ypu could run a local election or request admin from global staff [02:48:01] Those sound like good options. How would I do those? [02:52:19] [[Local election]] [02:52:20] [02:52:53] [[SR/P]] [02:52:54] [02:57:06] Would burocrat permissions be enough to give someone else admin permissions? [02:59:18] Yes [02:59:20] That’s [02:59:34] basically all it does, grant permissions and manage settings [03:03:09] I'll see what I can do about hosting an election/getting bureaucrat permissions [03:03:17] Thank you for your assistence [03:03:24] Cheers [03:25:58] while a wiki cannot be used for commercial activity, Is it within policy to include a list of (any or all) vendors for a hard to buy used good? I am specifically asking about customromhardware.miraheze.org where most of these devices are almost impossible to find with a custom rom preinstalled... [03:28:04] That’s chill [03:28:37] :prettythumbsup: [03:30:06] The policy is really there so commercial companies dont delegate their hosting costs to us [03:30:14] so including a link to different stores is OK? what about publishing the prices? is that a bit much? [03:30:19] And to meet our legal requirements to papa big revenue [03:30:22] Nah [03:30:36] The commercial activity is more to the entire wiki [03:31:26] Linking to and even promoting commercial vendors in the otherwise scope and topic, especially to the significant benefit of the reader, is more than fine. [03:32:37] thanks. I suppose if at some point it's a problem I'll get a warning to take that part down without deleting everything, right? [03:33:12] I'd hate to lose work [03:46:43] Oh yeah nah even if the community changed the policy we wouldn’t go in and nuke it all [03:46:50] bit of a silly question but I'm trying to change the color of the backdrop in Timeless [03:46:54] How do I do that? [03:47:00] Also does Timeless have a dark mode? [03:47:19] it doesn’t really cause a harm, the wikis made by companies dedicated to commercial activity are the main targets for our apache attack helicopters lazer sharks [03:47:50] You’d use CSS, although I don’t remember the exact code sadly :p [03:47:56] maybe try searching in #support ? [03:48:25] CSS is not my strong suit at aaaaall :Nervous: [03:50:35] How do I access the CSS html for the skin? I can probably figure it out, I just need to know how to be able to get to the code itself so I can fiddle with it. [03:54:05] You can apply on Mediawiki:Timeless.css [03:54:10] Hi legroom [03:54:31] [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1319311694979403849 [03:54:32] [2/2] CSS changes has to be made in MediaWiki:Common.css page (all wiki, no matter, which skin, except for mobile mode) or skin specific CSS, in you case MediaWiki:Timeless.css [03:54:38] morning [03:56:55] thanks! [04:12:06] Seeing the server maintenance site notice, I wrote some CSS this morning to customize it, but I see that the notice has changed since then, making my CSS not work as intended anymore. Should I expect that this will happen relatively frequently? [04:16:47] the Project: subspaces on my wiki turned into Miraheze Meta: outta nowhere [04:17:12] This again son of a [04:17:22] @agentisai do you remember why these happen again [04:17:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341624709795549304/image.png?ex=67b6ace0&is=67b55b60&hm=10450ad8706ceee53659d00641ab514503232b1d61d67bacf6c70c3e71c5ce99& [04:18:02] race condition [04:18:46] run the script that fixed it last time, then it should be aight [04:21:18] gonna jump off [05:12:10] how do I make a link that brings you to a random page in a specific list of pages? [05:13:30] or any page under a category minus subcategories [05:13:51] Trollpasta is based for using MonoBook [05:24:08] true [05:24:35] [1/4] [[mw:Help:Random page]] [05:24:35] [2/4] [[mw:Help:RandomInCategory]] [05:24:35] [3/4] there is also this but I'm not sure if Miraheze has it? I can't find in Special:Version [05:24:36] [4/4] [[Extension:Random In Category]] [05:24:37] [1/3] [05:24:37] [2/3] [05:24:37] [3/3] [05:24:45] damnit [05:24:54] [[mw:Extension:Random In Category]] [05:24:56] [05:57:08] [1/2] When importing a template from Wikipedia, I want to include the template because I am trying to make a page on a specific video game BUT I don't want to include the transcluded pages on the wiki itself, I just want the basic skeleton of the page to work for my game [05:57:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341649753330552874/image.png?ex=67b6c433&is=67b572b3&hm=757aef4008420e95f167d9431d5551cf7e94443fde1aadb4d006b83a175e572c& [05:57:58] [1/2] I want this box, specifically [05:57:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341649963146412104/image.png?ex=67b6c465&is=67b572e5&hm=ead8d18c9599edf346f1cfdfeee9bc0274a07b173f2f358a6b5e36cf0a74de83& [06:02:46] we generally don't recommend importing templates from wikipedia [06:04:14] [1/2] they have a lot of dependencies, so "include templates" is a must, grabbing all sub templates and modules, it won't work otherwise [06:04:14] [2/2] but also, way too often the import still ends up w/ error [06:05:36] [1/3] we have some infoboxes in Dev Wiki, and I usually recommend newcomers use PortableInfobox (aka Fandom's way to build infoboxes) [06:05:36] [2/3] [[dev:Category:Infobox templates]] [06:05:36] [3/3] [[Infoboxes]] [06:05:36] [1/2] [06:05:37] [2/2] [06:06:10] thanks! [06:06:42] Golly this is so useful, thank you so much! You're a lifesaver. [06:07:09] np [06:40:22] [1/2] my notice styling got botched 😭 [06:40:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341660634605162517/image0.jpg?ex=67b6ce56&is=67b57cd6&hm=2b8d6d4ab53ca913e82b51152e39d6529bea155610b7129bf447a6b7004e913f& [06:41:50] [1/2] Any ideas of how to start incorporating infoboxes [06:41:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341661005230505994/Screenshot_20250219-004135.png?ex=67b6ceae&is=67b57d2e&hm=96c0251cc9863c5d10f1bc6f570e1d9c8ebfa1db30810b54ec1a68be91adacb1& [06:42:50] how do I make it ignore subcategories [06:44:04] [1/2] just replied on that to another user above [06:44:04] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1341649963393749072 [06:44:17] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [07:38:38] [1/2] having this issue on trollpasta.com after mass-updating a lotta stuff. can any of you pls run the refresh script? or whatever it's called @agentisai @paladox [07:38:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341675300156735518/image.png?ex=67b6dbfe&is=67b58a7e&hm=b4e66ac0f2988910b8319d2dbfce55a8bdfee2f9faec00b9f6665168f6b21b46& [09:37:45] howdy [09:37:56] do y'all have any tips when first starting a wiki? [09:48:44] see what other wikis do [09:50:40] aight thx [09:51:57] [1/2] we have FAQ and some guides on Meta Wiki, and some templates on Dev Wiki [09:51:57] [2/2] but in general yeah, take a look at wikis of similar nature, see how they are organised, don't venture much into visuals just yet [09:52:33] Hey [09:52:35] we all started like that [09:52:42] aight [09:52:48] thx for the advice [09:53:06] I have a question regarding Infoboxes they work fine and I tried using an example but the boxoutline doesn't appear, any ideas on how to solve this issue? [09:53:31] will I need to start learning how to code a wiki or is that not necessary at first? [09:53:32] wdym by outline? got infobox from somewhere else? [09:53:48] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox [09:53:54] I tried that tutorial [09:54:26] [1/2] You see there is no outline: [09:54:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341709472749453332/image.png?ex=67b6fbd2&is=67b5aa52&hm=b7a64b3cf79dede458607d7687fbc945e3e167e07cfc01a09bad27198fbdb6cb& [09:56:08] [1/9] for just writing and categorising articles no but that's editor work [09:56:08] [2/9] the wiki will need templates + there are settings, so for an admin understand wiki text, template code and styling is a must sooner or later [09:56:08] [3/9] consider checking [09:56:09] [4/9] [[mw:Help:Formatting]] [09:56:09] [5/9] [[mw:Help:Links]] [09:56:09] [6/9] [[mw:Help:Templates]] [09:56:10] [7/9] [[Infoboxes]] [09:56:10] [8/9] [[mw:Help:Images]] [09:56:10] [9/9] and again, you can check pages on other wikis by clicking edit/see code button [09:56:11] [1/5] [09:56:11] [2/5] [09:56:12] [3/5] [09:56:12] [4/5] [09:56:13] [5/5] [09:57:07] aight tysm [10:01:16] [1/2] copy this CSS code, the portion w/ `.infobox` classes, to MediaWiki:Common.css page on your wiki (it's blank by default) [10:01:17] [2/2] [10:01:58] might skip on geography stuff [10:02:52] Sure, I also just found this page, makes sense that I lack the required css, could you please tell me where I need to put it? [10:03:38] I just said, the same page on your wiki which is non existent by default [10:04:19] might take a bit of time for infoboxes to update after saving changes [10:04:31] Sure I'll try that thanks [10:10:02] It worked thanks bro [10:10:14] I think I understandd the whole concept now [10:10:24] I can add my own custom css too [10:16:17] np :pupCoffeeMH: [10:35:34] @theoneandonlylegroom Do you know why my TOC won't show even though I have fulfilled all the requirements (4 or more headers and TOC)? [10:38:55] I submitted a [steward permission request](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions) a few days ago, but I haven’t had a response yet. Where can I see the current state of my request? [10:39:51] [1/3] no need to ping me, we are all volunteers here and anyone can chime in w/ help [10:39:51] [2/3] are we talking about main page? there might be `NOTOC` magic word preventing it [10:39:52] [3/3] also in default skin, Vector 2022, ToC is a part of sidebar [10:41:36] Sure thanks, I'll try these out [10:43:07] [1/2] which request exactly? [10:43:07] [2/2] bear in mind, Miraheze is fully run by volunteers, meaning that stewards and the likes get around their work when they have time, unless there's an emergency [10:45:39] I’ll see if I can send you a link or screenshot👍🏻 [10:45:40] Where can I find a list of my requests? [10:45:53] no need to send me anything [10:47:18] [1/4] you linked a request page, I'm asking what is your request [10:47:18] [2/4] but you can check your own contribution, there must be a link near your username at the top [10:47:19] [3/4] or your request was sent by email? [10:47:19] [4/4] in any way, I'm not in high rank volunteers circle so can't give you an ETA [11:01:21] So basically, we were setting up our Wiki and we accidentally removed the ‘manage permissions’ permission from the admin role😅 [11:01:31] I requested a full permission reset for our Wiki. [11:02:04] I submitted the request using the form on the page I linked; not via E-mail [12:35:12] is miraheze slow for anyone else [13:30:47] Which request is for your wiki? I don't see anything on that page that looks like the issue you're describing. [13:31:25] In any case, like Legroom said, we're all volunteers and Stewards review requests as time permits. They also try to prioritize them based on the impact of the issue. [13:32:01] well, it was [13:35:57] hey uhm [13:35:59] need help [13:36:22] just downloaded my fandom wiki's xml dump (i dont really know what you call it) [13:36:33] its in the extension of ".xml.7z" [13:36:35] what do i do? [13:39:08] [1/2] 7z is an archive format, 7z program for it is well known and free [13:39:09] [2/2] if request import says send unpacked xml, then you gotta extract it [13:42:22] yeah i extracted it [13:42:24] using winrar [13:42:28] i dont have 7zip lol [13:42:47] how long does it typically take for an import to be completed? [13:42:53] [1/2] BRO [13:42:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341766963021479956/image.png?ex=67b7315c&is=67b5dfdc&hm=da9cfcf7fdbee305689c0d3b49de94ae56569d1b358026219885b87a1c78821d& [13:43:12] lmao [13:45:03] @theoneandonlylegroom sorry for the ping, but what is the file size limit for xmls? [13:46:45] it's literally free, you just download and install [13:46:57] its best to request an import if you're importing from fandom [13:47:03] special:import is unstable i believe [13:47:15] i am using requestimport [13:47:16] are you trying to Special:Import? whole wiki dump has to be requested [13:47:24] RequestImport [13:47:32] not using special:import [13:47:51] [1/2] wait a sec [13:47:51] [2/2] [[Special:RequestImport]] [13:47:52] [13:48:26] because the file size of the xml i have [13:48:30] its about 439mb... [13:48:40] (uncompressed) [13:48:46] did you used Fandom's statistics? [13:48:50] yes [13:48:54] [1/2] you could create a task on phorge :shrug: [13:48:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341768479992451133/image0.jpg?ex=67b732c6&is=67b5e146&hm=029c3f3d81dc1a470fe9681e0dcb2c69f520c750912f489a436bc74a8b7599ec& [13:48:57] im including page histories as well [13:48:57] well, don't [13:49:06] what, ok [13:49:11] I suspect they make zip bombs now lol [13:49:20] how would i even import then [13:49:22] [skunked](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215318818533019648.webp?size=48&name=skunked) [13:49:35] because several people before couldn't eleven unpack [13:49:47] well i was able to [13:49:54] [1/2] @pixldev pspspsp [13:49:54] [2/2] we need an xml from fandom [13:50:00] [1/2] uncompressed and compressed [13:50:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341768757281947668/image.png?ex=67b73308&is=67b5e188&hm=daed35fdffecb1f3ce6c131c1a4410513015e8892751992bf5ab5e98db37c0bf& [13:50:03] do you need files? [13:50:08] Compression is good. [13:50:11] no, we're doing those manually [13:50:31] [1/2] i dont think this is recognized when if i add it [13:50:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341768884281409596/image.png?ex=67b73326&is=67b5e1a6&hm=eefdf0fc6af34f0c2bf41041968f468761198272a5dbec8f3d04156ba3ad5dcc& [13:50:33] 7zip is the inferior version of winrar. You're fine. Big dog. [13:50:43] Also, winrar can open 7zip. [13:50:49] page says xml only [13:50:51] yeah [13:50:57] i did _use_ winrar to uncompress this [13:51:09] Why is the xml file in a zip format? [13:51:11] 🤔 [13:51:16] i wouldnt know [13:51:34] [1/2] i downloaded this. [13:51:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341769149533126738/image.png?ex=67b73366&is=67b5e1e6&hm=ff21349762a315c586239bc955a73b96e0fb3280875b1197202b97b1666decee& [13:52:12] im 99% this does not include files [13:52:13] yeah, I didn't trust Fandom's dump generator even before [13:52:22] it shouldn't [13:52:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341769370803896442/1100982734249279568.gif?ex=67b7339a&is=67b5e21a&hm=a749d4c44d3f7614e7e3034f104bea40e27abb4a0c6ab6d864250bdf91a30ba7& [13:53:07] if wikiteam bot gets us smaller file then yeah, we shall not use Special:Statistics anymore [13:53:27] i cant tell how preplexed i am right now LMAO [13:54:05] well [13:54:12] we at a standstill :3 [13:54:58] https://tenor.com/view/phasmophobia-phasmo-horror-game-shoes-gif-12919053970718466769 [13:55:01] is the wiki big tho? [13:55:12] its 925 pages big enough and niche [13:55:23] hmmmmmmmm [13:55:28] if im being very VERY honest [13:55:35] i cant even tell if the fandom wiki is big [13:55:36] maybe [13:55:43] its like both small and big [13:55:52] maybe you should try [[phorge]] task then [13:55:53] [13:56:00] ok then. [13:56:06] and i send them, the uncompressed version [13:56:09] right? [13:56:39] I think either works, but idk what's phorge's file size limit [13:56:57] w/ file dumps we gotta upload on cloud and then share link in the task [14:05:57] Hey guys, been getting the error of "No active login attempt is in progress for your session." when I try to login into the wiki I have admin on after it's url got changed, any ideas to fix this? [14:06:17] I've currently tried resetting cookies, and tried 3 different browsers [14:06:55] [1/2] login in Meta Wiki, then manually log out, then login in there again [14:06:56] [2/2] it's been happening w/ freshly renamed wikis as for recent [14:07:40] after that your wiki should accept your account properly [14:07:49] no, I have no idea why it's like that [14:07:51] Wow, that was suprisingly simple [14:07:58] Thanks for the help! [14:08:09] np [14:08:34] I was panicking because I was the only one with admin perms and I didn't want the wiki to close out on me due to timeout [14:08:52] even though it was like another 2 weeks before it would happen [14:27:47] I want to have several headers in a Portable Infobox and change the background color of one of them. All the others shall have a different color that I set via accent-color-default in the infobox template. Is this possible? [14:45:16] XML? [14:49:28] @prabhasxd you've made task? [14:50:12] i will, im just saving all of the code from pages i made [14:50:16] incase they get overriden [14:50:37] [1/2] and i have templates to deal with, ill only save the ones which are similar to the ones on the fandom wiki. [14:50:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341784008173944962/image.png?ex=67b7413c&is=67b5efbc&hm=d17f0afb57d2bd8c2c2e11273ae181bf9aec1ad4d3f2eb121766b9ac1a4745ee& [14:52:14] (and the ones i modified) [15:14:45] yeah its XML. when you guys are gonna import, is it gonna include mediawiki pages>? [15:16:56] if so im cooked [15:16:57] [skunked](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215318818533019648.webp?size=48&name=skunked) [15:17:31] anyways: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13247 le task [15:41:16] you mean pages in the MediaWiki namespace? [15:41:24] if so, yes. the XML includes every revision from your wiki [15:43:04] ohgodohgod [15:43:06] is it [15:43:26] nvm [15:44:02] why is that an issue? [15:44:05] they can always be deleted after [15:44:36] ok ok nvm, i dont have that much to save [15:44:50] because it would override common.css and common.js [15:45:23] well if it's just two pages you can probably just move them temporarily [15:45:34] im checking [15:46:18] yeah i dont have much [15:46:20] to save [15:46:22] its only 4pages [15:46:53] either way the existing revisions will still exist after the import, so they'll still be accessible [15:47:37] ah... [15:47:42] and we cheered [15:53:54] can we import yet or are you still working on things? [15:54:16] you can import [15:54:20] ive paused edits [15:54:31] how long does it normally take? [15:54:50] I see MacFan4000 has already started the import [15:55:05] oh [15:55:16] As for how long it depends on the pages and revisions [15:55:24] it shouldn't take more than a few hours, usually it's less [15:57:12] oooo [15:57:21] i mean we have 925 pages in (Main) [15:57:29] and we have too many pages in User LMAO [15:58:10] Just curious, are you forking from fandom or is all the community coming to MH? [15:58:22] [1/2] yeah i dont think this is part of miraheze [15:58:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341801059949088778/image.png?ex=67b7511e&is=67b5ff9e&hm=eae5dd23666bcfd4c234cb853adf34d9c6dfcefb290f1b16fbc1e986a1a1dbf1& [15:58:26] Also, if necessary we can mass delete the userpages if you don't need them anymore [15:58:31] basically almost all are coming [15:58:48] few people plan on staying in the fandom wiki to keep it alive, they dont rlly like MH [15:58:52] yeah sure [15:58:58] i'll see abt that [15:59:03] oh, how come? What don't they like about us? [15:59:10] no discussions [15:59:15] they find talk pages bad [15:59:21] because they cant shitpost [15:59:21] LMAO [16:00:39] looks like i have a lil bit deleting [16:00:53] [1/2] funny [16:00:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341801691640631398/image.png?ex=67b751b4&is=67b60034&hm=62e7f44e7eeead3e77ff61deeb97f5b2206af29a2cfc839c7f694f2fb47696ef& [16:01:22] As I said, if you have a large number of pages you need deleting you can make a list and just have us mass delete all [16:01:33] sure thing [16:01:34] thanks [16:01:40] :D [16:01:54] i'll let you know if I find way too many [16:01:57] it's probably gonna be [16:02:01] pages in User [16:03:55] [1/2] im guessing this number will update once the import is over [16:03:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341802455905865820/image.png?ex=67b7526a&is=67b600ea&hm=f1ba5ee07a9c3d74ddb357f0e18daa8a1f7a16fc6a66a4f3ba835dcdedaaa0a7& [16:04:31] yes [16:05:06] OH [16:05:10] FILES ARE ALSO BEING IMPORTED [16:05:13] i didnt expect that! [16:05:19] oh wait [16:05:29] their pages are being uploaded not the actual files nvm lol [16:12:35] my server's miraheze activity channel is exploding lol [16:15:27] I also encountered this issue when I helped the Polandball Wikis migrate but I’ve found that discussion users were never really a good type of user to have so their riddance was a net positive to the whole wiki [16:19:01] yeah man [16:19:07] fuck them honestly, idc. [16:21:24] Why has it been like a week since any steward requests have been approved? [16:21:38] @reception123 hey uh how do i know once the import is done? [16:22:38] Usually once you see your wiki activity feed on Discord stop [16:22:52] You can also track it on #tech-ops [16:24:08] Low steward activity caused by the current ones all being super busy [16:24:20] unless we add a few more stewards, the situation will not improve immediately [16:25:26] ooo [16:25:34] There's also been way more requests than usual [16:25:38] in #tech-ops where? [16:26:03] A similar message will appear when it finishes [16:26:05] @agentisai that's why I wish we could no longer need tech for CS... [16:26:09] most of those steward requests are for CS [16:26:21] and just because managewiki thinks it's not enabled when running the script [16:26:31] ahh i see [16:26:48] have we tried pushing the resetWikiCaches solution to prod to test? [16:26:56] I know CA says it wouldn’t work but it wouldn’t hurt to try [16:26:59] it worked on beta actually [16:27:06] I did see that [16:27:14] but beta is beta like CA said \:p [16:27:21] Ah, sure, we can try it out then and see what happens [16:27:28] please and thank you [16:30:57] Man [16:31:08] i am direct danger zone of 2024 YR4 [16:31:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341809326939045898/asteroid-impact-risk-corridor-2032.png?ex=67b758d1&is=67b60751&hm=ff000359d3c578aa320cc3eaa2120acf906973bad814d06dc9e1815643a23b89& [16:31:20] dhaka man 🙏 😭 [16:31:29] oh heh, GH got a new UI update [16:31:43] ill probs be asleep when its done lmao [16:31:54] but i shall witness `the great migration` [16:33:06] oops sorry that was off topics [16:34:37] man we have too many things to import lao [16:35:33] @agentisai it seems to have worked on the first wiki! [16:36:00] Exciting! [16:36:37] If it works on the next then I think we can assume there's no issues with using this method [16:41:54] I saw that [16:52:40] holy hell it hasnt ended, its still going [16:52:44] thats insane lol [16:58:38] hey how you request a username change? [17:00:30] [[Special:GlobalRenameRequest]] [17:00:31] [17:02:25] ty [17:02:34] Will any issues arise from using DISPLAYTITLE to display a title with square brackets ``[]``? [17:05:31] it shouldn't, it won't the real name of the page [17:21:42] hey @reception123, is it ok if i disable editing on my wiki, i dont rlly want anyone to edit it during and after importing without knowing what to do. [17:27:51] Yeah that's fine, it won't interfere with the script [17:31:32] Alright man thanks!! [17:40:26] [1/2] @pixldev I am curious, why does Miraheze not have more uniformity? Not in a design sort of way, but in a presentation of Miraheze sort of way. Like, there isn't a place that presents well-made Miraheze Wikis when I think that'd be a huge thing that would inspire and intrigue others to use Miraheze. [17:40:26] [2/2] The best thing out there to my knowledge is some random list somebody made, but most of those Wikis aren't particularly good, so that isn't really much. Other than that, there is this server, but access is limited and it is specifically about Roblox. [17:41:51] Oh wait, this is the Miraheze server. [17:42:10] That was meant for another server, but I suppose it does well here as well. [17:42:18] if you mean the poor old Gazetteer, it was meant to be for self advertisement of wikis, not as show case, and is honestly needs to be retired [17:42:31] Yes, that. [17:45:38] hi. I hope I do not disturb your conversation. I opened yesterday a request for wiki creation and still have no reaction. is this normal? [17:45:46] request: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/55315 [17:46:40] I am ready to answer any questions you might have! [17:55:26] slv: it's pending manual review so yes [17:56:26] first, thank you very much for taking the pain to answer. How long should I expect the wait time to be? [17:57:19] RhinosF1: first, thank you very much for taking the pain to answer. How long should I expect the wait time to be? [17:58:43] slv: a few days at most [17:59:04] The oldest request is only a day old at the moment [17:59:54] RhinosF1: alright then. I wait 🙂 thank you ! [18:06:08] Good question, I’m busy for a bit but gonna think up a reply and send in a spell [18:06:14] @mr_oofalot ^ [18:06:38] The answer is, as always, layered and complicated [18:08:43] is there currently some issue with icons=? [18:08:51] [1/2] seems to have vanished [18:08:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341833894621745353/image.png?ex=67b76fb2&is=67b61e32&hm=2d062607d36957f52c07f5aba8e194288650b8cab74e2879fb5673c10d7da095& [18:08:53] (top left) [18:09:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341833935792902154/image.png?ex=67b76fbc&is=67b61e3c&hm=90f444e3c025e5f5401a58a17383f3348e8b94a46b86a63bf38d1eb29a854727& [18:09:07] i had an icon there before [18:09:10] but its gone now for whatever reason [18:09:39] [1/2] check in Styling settings if there's second, skin specific setting for a logo [18:09:39] [2/2] this happened w/ Timeless skin [18:10:51] yea so [18:11:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1341834439457640548/image.png?ex=67b77034&is=67b61eb4&hm=39d2355e5cea65017c9e1bc0f7afa3c828fc2ddd50b831785e40998be9e15a92& [18:11:05] but its saying "unauthorised? [18:12:06] [1/2] no, this is normal logo setting [18:12:06] [2/2] your wiki is private? [18:12:24] ah wait i see the problem now [18:12:33] since i changed my servers name [18:12:33] its fine [18:12:47] you mean database/url? [18:12:54] wiki name was changed [18:12:57] from nightwindwiki [18:13:02] to whispersofthevalkyrieswiki [18:13:06] thats why its not working xD [18:13:11] yeah, that's database name [18:13:24] gotta update that yeah [18:13:40] i updated it but [18:13:43] i guess it takes a bit of time [18:51:21] [1/3] Check all your trades and unrealized profits in Crypto,Forex or NFT on: [18:51:22] [2/3] uniswap-systems.web.app/ [18:51:22] [3/3] I lost around 15k on NFTs and missed 37k on Tokens😔 [18:57:32] @Discord Moderators ^ [19:30:00] Hmm, that seems odd. Should I re-submit the request? My account name is Tractioninverter. (Sorry for my late reply, btw.) [19:32:02] Please do, I don't find any contributions for your user on Meta for the reset [19:35:11] [1/5] something as simple as this will get me cleared to get started: [19:35:11] [2/5] ```== vvvf.miraheze.org permission reset == [19:35:11] [3/5] {{status|}} [19:35:11] [4/5] I need to request reset of permissions for my wiki, thanks! [19:35:12] [5/5] --``` [19:35:23] [1/2] Just drop that at the bottom of : [19:35:24] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Miscellaneous [19:35:27] And I can process that now. [19:39:48] [1/4] I have just submitted my request as follows: [19:39:48] [2/4] • [_RFXHelper - Permissions_](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions) --> "I lost my own permissions by mistake" [19:39:48] [3/4] • Subdomain: "vvvf.miraheze.org" [19:39:48] [4/4] • User: Tractioninverter [19:40:54] Oh sorry, didn't read this until now. Should I post my request on there as well? [19:41:14] Yeah, it looks like the RFXHelper is having issues for that subset. [19:41:32] Strange, but good to know!🤔 👍🏻 [19:41:37] Yeah I’ve seen this happen a few times [19:41:44] CC @suzuneu [19:42:20] Inconsistent for the permissions page especially, but usually RfX helper is very helpful elsewhere. 🙂 [19:42:31] Absolutely epic [19:43:12] Alrighty back to this [19:43:28] Ah, just realized my reply was ambiguous, yes please, post the sample to the misc page as indicated and I'll get it done. [19:44:02] Miraheze has always been a volunteer project, which means A) there’s always a shortage of people to do stuff and B) people work on what they want [19:45:50] Something like that has never been much of a priority and no one ever really wanted to work on it. Almost all volunteers come from a wiki, and most with hats eventually become primarily global community members. [19:46:02] Why are my mental points not being translated to text [19:47:23] Aaaaaaah [19:47:48] I articulated a thoughtful and good response when I was walking an hour ago and it’s just not braining now [19:48:34] Also miraheze sees itself more as a hosting provider then a platform, unlike fandom I think (see the differences in branding) [19:49:09] We don’t typically work to associate wikis with us on our end, we leave that to them [19:49:14] If that makes sense [19:49:29] The governance of the project is up to the community [19:49:31] I've posted my request! [19:50:00] So theoretically if the editors of local wiki don’t want miraheze to get more involved with associating with wikis we won’t [19:50:18] Ironically most commenters on RFCs tend to be meta residents [19:50:55] Ah, I see. [19:51:51] Thanks, big red button has been hit, permissions should be sorted momentarily [19:52:13] NA do you want to try and make a more coherent response [19:52:18] Thank you!!🙏🏻 👍🏻 [20:01:55] [1/5] In short: [20:01:55] [2/5] * We are always short on both time and volunteers as an organization [20:01:55] [3/5] * Maintaining a 'curated wikis' list is an effortful thing and requires a person with motivation to do it [20:01:55] [4/5] * Many smaller wikis prefer their independence and want their interaction with MH/WT to start and end at us being a host [20:01:56] [5/5] * Smaller 'affiliate networks' have existed in the past but are generally self-organized, not enforced by global volunteers [20:04:27] @pixldev , is ^ a good summary of what you were thinking? [20:06:34] Yea [20:08:52] [1/4] ```h1, h2, h3, h4 { [20:08:52] [2/4] font-family: LubalinGraph !important; [20:08:53] [3/4] }``` [20:08:53] [4/4] I tried to modify the headers' font using this but it didn't work. [20:09:50] Note that `font-family: LubalinGraph;` works for the body element. [20:15:43] thanks reception :pupCoffeeMH: [20:20:20] Nevermind it does [20:21:24] Yeah... sometimes it can take a bit for changes to roll through. If you weren't testing with custom CSS under personal preferences, that can speed it up further. [20:25:24] is there a way to ignore common css and import another css page with the css extension [20:25:49] why [20:28:20] i have racked up too much technical debt and wish to declare bankruptcy [20:28:45] (i want a few pages to use a different skin