[00:00:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> Thank you
[00:08:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian> no problem
[02:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> hi friends, i just received the email regarding dns hosting on miraheze - we have nameserver records on miraheze for an email service for phighting wiki, will there be any issues with that when im moving it all over?
[02:15:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tedkalashnikov> Ooooooo, good question, I don’t think so, but Mr domain man @rhinosf1 would be the person to say so
[02:15:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Networking is confusing
[02:15:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> MacFan4000: may also know if he’s on the IRCs
[02:15:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> i assume ill need them smited off miraheze first
[02:18:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tedkalashnikov> Hm?
[02:19:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> like
[02:19:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> the records on mira removed so tbe email works
[02:19:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov> at time of switchover
[02:21:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Well, as I recall we manage the DNS so unless the mail provider would need them changed we’d just need to copy them over
[02:21:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Actually wait never mind
[02:21:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I’m getting confused
[02:22:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Yeah I believe we’d nuke them on our end
[02:29:03] <MacFan4000>	 we would remove the config for your domain from our DNS, you can see the records that are set (find your domain on https://github.com/miraheze/dns/tree/master/zones) - just copy them over to your new provider
[02:30:35] <MacFan4000>	 and yeah the email went to bureaucrats of wikis with custom domains using our DNS
[02:31:10] <MacFan4000>	 If you received the email more then once, then you are a bureaucrat on more then one of these wikis
[02:38:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yogurtsf> [1/2] What is this?
[02:38:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yogurtsf> [2/2] > Pages in category "Pages with image sizes containing extra px"
[06:09:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> can you identify if a user is blocked via css classes
[06:14:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309> Does it take time to update the password at the backend? I have changed my admin user password and now I am unable to login
[06:17:36] <BlankEclair>	 avengers9309: oh dear, it shouldn't...
[06:22:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you have email attached?
[06:24:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yes
[06:27:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309, replying to BlankEclair> I tried 'forgot password' and got an email with a temp password, but unfortunately it is also not working
[06:27:55] <BlankEclair>	 huh..
[06:29:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tedkalashnikov> You'll need to move these records to your new DNS provider
[06:32:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309, replying to BlankEclair> strange, I just used my previous password and it is logged in
[06:32:21] <BlankEclair>	 computers do be like that huh
[06:34:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309, replying to BlankEclair> hmm, but it is totally strange, anyways - trying to change password again and see what happens
[06:36:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309> this time successfully logged in after changing the password
[06:38:52] <BlankEclair>	 oh computers, you're so funny
[06:38:58] <BlankEclair>	 (let's game it out voice)
[06:50:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avengers9309, replying to BlankEclair> yeah they are playing with ys
[08:29:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dullbird173> What is the best CSS'd (because I don't have another word lol) wiki on Miraheze that you have seen
[10:06:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tedkalashnikov, replying to MacFan4000> thank you Mac and @rhinosf1
[10:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> No problem @tedkalashnikov
[10:43:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Let me know if you need anything else
[14:08:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realplanita2> Hey just wondering how long is the approval process for getting a wiki approved generally?
[14:12:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> [1/2] sorry, im not super knowledgeable on DNS. so i have a registrar currently pointing the nameservers to miraheze. it appears they have their own DNS for adding CNAME and other records. im hoping to do an instant carryover. so looking at the issue tracker steps, am i supposed to right now change nameservers to the registrar's DNS and make a CNAME to 'cp36.wikitide.net', and then agree
[14:12:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> [2/2]  on a time to switch the CNAME to ' cf-lb.miraheze.org'?
[14:18:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> oh i have to go through cloudflare if i want it be a root domain?
[14:29:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn, replying to realplanita2> [1/2] It should be pretty fast, I think two days or so? Though it depends on your request and if there's need for more information.
[14:29:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn, replying to realplanita2> [2/2] I also think there might be a counter for how long it takes, though I can't look it up right now.
[14:47:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69> Hey guys, new here, i had a question about mirahezes standard footer, is it allowed to remove this footer if we made a seperate page for all copyright related items?
[15:01:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realplanita2, replying to _arawynn> Its been more than a few days for me, but it was also the weekend so I'm not sure
[15:02:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to realplanita2> check comments tab
[15:03:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realplanita2> yeah the AI commented but that was it
[15:08:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thetrueannoyingdog_56011, replying to _arawynn> mine took two weeks
[15:16:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realplanita2> ah well no problem, I can wait
[15:21:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to realplanita2> it forwarded to human reviewer?
[15:21:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> well, we used to have long review times couple of months ago
[15:22:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realplanita2, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> not sure
[15:31:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> If it’s in in review then it’s waiting for a human
[15:33:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to .florigon> Hey, happy to help!
[15:34:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Once you've got your dns moved, you can let me know and I should be able to activate it in Cloudflare fairly quick
[15:34:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you want to switch it to cf-lb
[15:36:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon, replying to rhinosf1> ok, i just made a cloudflare account. so basically, just switch the nameservers from miraheze to cloudflare at the registrar, then just add a CNAME for cf-lb.miraheze.org, and tell you?
[15:38:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to .florigon> Yup!
[15:39:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @.florigon what's the wiki?
[15:39:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Domain
[15:43:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon, replying to rhinosf1> comprehensibleinputwiki.org
[15:44:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> i changed the nameservers. cloudflare says it can take up to 24 hours to go through though
[15:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> when i try to add a cname, it says "An A, AAAA, or CNAME record with that host already exists". should i delete the existing A and AAAA record that got auto created?
[15:46:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> there's an A pointing to cp36.wikitide.net.
[15:46:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> point it to cf-lb.miraheze.org
[15:47:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to .florigon> Yup, delete the other records
[15:47:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I refreshed Cloudflare
[15:48:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> [1/2] got it, do i need to delete these other two CAA records as well:
[15:48:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1351220636374007849/image.png?ex=67d995c8&is=67d84448&hm=c68a6779fc5b9ffce73819273a29a8656ad454d8ea8d571b698bccacc3ddf549&
[15:50:22] <MacFan4000>	 I would remove that, yes since CF may try to use other SSL providers
[15:51:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> ok thanks
[15:52:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> and the little warning icon next to the CNAME says "This hostname is not covered by a certificate." do i need to worry about that
[15:52:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> [1/2] ah it says "If you recently added your domain to Cloudflare - meaning that your zone is in a pending state - you can often ignore this warning.
[15:52:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> [2/2] Once most domains becomes Active, Cloudflare will automatically issue a Universal SSL certificate, which will provide SSL/TLS coverage and remove the warning message."
[15:53:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> so i guess i just have to wait for the nameservers to update. google ns lookup still says the domain points to miraheze
[15:53:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> oh actually now it says cloudflare
[15:54:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> and it seems like the domain still points to the wiki, so i think it's all good?
[16:03:17] <MacFan4000>	 yup, all set now
[16:06:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> MacFan4000: can you do SSL & NS
[16:06:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm mobile today
[16:06:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @.florigon do we have a task or did we just discuss everything here?
[16:07:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> Just here i think
[16:07:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.florigon> Thanks guys
[16:07:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ok cool
[16:08:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69, replying to gait69> could someone help me out with this?
[16:08:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to gait69> No
[16:09:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69> https://tenor.com/view/emoji-gif-24664106
[16:10:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I don't think that would be prominent enough
[16:10:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Copyright laws are there to protect you
[16:11:02] <RhinosF1>	 Oh MacFan4000 did all the other steps :)
[16:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69, replying to rhinosf1> oh wait that was a serious response, i thought you didn't want to help whoops
[16:13:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69, replying to rhinosf1> Okay but what if i don't mind not being protected?
[16:15:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Probably a @notaracham question as he owns the risk
[16:15:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69> sorry i'm not familiar with anyone in this server yet 😓
[16:15:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I guess we can't technically stop you blanking the message if you find it with ?uselang=qqq
[16:16:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I wouldn't recommend it though
[16:16:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69> i was more concerned with if miraheze would take the wiki down if it got removed
[16:16:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69> but i believe i have enough information to give the others now
[16:16:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gait69> thanks a bunch :)
[16:19:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to gait69> We won't take it down
[16:22:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> licenses are a like, basic thing on all wikis
[16:44:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> Hello again!
[16:44:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> What are people up to? I'm editing my CSS
[16:49:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> [1/2] Hello, Im really sorry but does anyone know how I can go about getting my IP unblocked from the site? I tried making an account but I think because I forgot to turn my vpn off I got IP blocked, I tried doing the things mentioned in the notice that told me that I was blocked but because I'm not logged in I dont have access to administrators emails and I cant post anything about i
[16:49:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> [2/2] t on site anywhere, honestly just anything that could get me in contact with someone who could help would be really appreciated! Sorry if this is the wrong place to post about this I just want to help my friend edit their wiki and I'm at a loss for what to do.
[16:50:16] <MacFan4000>	 The blocked message should include an email to contact
[16:51:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> It did not :( It told me to use the "Email this user" function but because it won't let me log in, I cant see peoples emails.
[16:51:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you tried to login w/o vpn tho?
[16:51:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> Yes I did! I tried on multiple devices but nothing worked
[16:52:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @keyboard.txt what's the exact message
[16:52:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> Let me get it rq
[16:53:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1351237037759397938/image.png?ex=67d9a50e&is=67d8538e&hm=ce5f01c738ca17f6073dc6b191f588d48e4db0b01ad6500aa23028efe271a71a&
[16:54:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to keyboard.txt> I can see an email in that
[16:54:41] <MacFan4000>	 as it says towards the top, you should email cvt@miraheze.org
[16:54:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> OH MY GOD THANK YOU SORRY IM SO DUMB i didnt see the @ sign so my brain didnt register 😭
[16:55:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <keyboard.txt> Sorry for wasting your time thank you so much
[16:59:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> I finally got fonts working!
[17:02:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dramaturgyeve, replying to keyboard.txt> Lol
[17:19:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> I broke infoboxes though so I'll need to do some fixing
[17:44:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jimscott2025> Hello
[17:47:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks, replying to jimscott2025> Hello
[17:58:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jimscott2025> How you doing
[17:59:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks, replying to jimscott2025> I'm good. I'm currently tweaking common.css for my wiki
[17:59:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jimscott2025> I’m doing good
[18:00:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <luasucks> Good to hear
[18:01:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jimscott2025> I’m still working on the migration of the AVID Wiki
[18:01:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> why it's migrating tho?
[18:41:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kanserlaft> Hi, is there any way to contact Stewards via email?, regarding a situation that is occurring now, that involves my wiki and a banned user that is threatening to take actions against us
[18:41:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kanserlaft> `stewards@miraheze.org`
[18:42:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kanserlaft, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Thank you
[20:13:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> [1/2] why does my wiki have vector 2022 signed out but normal vector signed in?
[20:13:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> [2/2] (my wiki is set as vector)
[20:14:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kindking1> [1/2] are you sure legacy vector is set as default wiki skins in admin settings?
[20:14:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kindking1> [2/2] and you haven't changed your user preferences
[20:15:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> hm lemme check again
[20:15:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> [1/2] yep its default
[20:15:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1351287955079168101/image.png?ex=67d9d47a&is=67d882fa&hm=f18ecbe526e6a9513bf56d3c1f5074a3a1997c62e1df7688a8c4ce7bf25ffab6&
[20:15:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> other editors can see it too
[20:18:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> cache i guess
[20:19:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> its like it for all my browsers except my phone
[20:19:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> if i spam cache refresh you can sometimes see vector but then it reverts back to vector 2022
[20:20:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> so it does seem like a preference but im signed out
[20:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I meant wiki's cache
[20:22:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> hm maybe yeah
[20:22:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> try adding `?action=purge` in URL while logged out
[20:23:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> okay
[20:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> interesting
[20:23:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> all the other pages are vector but the main page
[20:23:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> its still 2022
[20:24:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I can't tell if it'll work, I just heard that cache is inconsistent between logged in/out and desktop/mobile
[20:24:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> tech folks would tell better
[20:25:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kindking1> hm okay
[21:32:20] <hollisb>	 The PAGEBANNER extension (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikidataPageBanner) just doesn't seem to be working for me. I've enabled it, and pasted "{{PAGEBANNER:Grand_canyon.jpg}}" straight out of the docs, but I just see no image at all (and no error).
[21:32:48] <hollisb>	 https://portlandnet.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Version says {{pagebanner}} is a working parser function hook, so the extension seems to be active...
[21:33:58] <hollisb>	 https://portlandnet.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Grand_canyon.jpg works fine, so it doesn't seem to be a file access problem.
[21:39:33] <hollisb>	 Any suggestions for further debugging?
[22:15:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bisti_> [1/2] i got 2 footers on my wiki, does anyone know where i would edit the top one? xd The bottom one is: MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-tagline?action=edit
[22:15:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bisti_> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1351318119964086322/image.png?ex=67d9f092&is=67d89f12&hm=7401e021988415e9f3ddd8c9d2ffc7bd419f5b3f62291c7741462fc852c8063f&
[22:17:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> appending ?uselang=qqx to the url will get you all interface messages in use
[22:22:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bisti_> hmm still dosent show the name of the footer
[22:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bisti_> forget it.. found it in my history 😛