[06:55:13] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [5/22] <format><span style="text-align: center">{{{title}}}/span/format [06:55:13] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [6/22] <default><span style="text-align: center">{{PAGENAME}}/span/default [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [7/22] /title [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [8/22] <image source="image"/> [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [9/22] <data source="item_type"> [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [10/22] <label>Item Type/label [06:55:15] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [11/22] /data [06:55:15] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [12/22] <data source="method_of_obtaining"> [06:55:16] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [13/22] <label>Method of Obtaining/label [06:55:16] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [14/22] /data [06:55:17] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [15/22] <data source="item_use"> [06:55:17] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [16/22] <label>Item Use/label [06:55:18] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [17/22] /data [06:55:18] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [18/22] <data source="tooltip"> [06:55:19] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [19/22] <label>Tooltip/label [06:55:19] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [20/22] /data [06:55:20] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [21/22] /infobox [06:55:20] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [22/22] ``` [06:55:21] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd, replying to whosreyou63627> its css [06:55:24] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> dont add it there [06:55:28] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> oh mk [06:55:29] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> add it to your wiki's common.css [06:55:40] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> yeah [06:55:41] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> very confused how i can edit that in miraheze [06:55:43] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> im so new to this im sorry [06:55:51] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> its ok to ask mate [06:57:07] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> where ic common.css located [06:57:22] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> MediaWiki:Common.css [06:57:28] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> add that at the end of your wiki's url [06:57:59] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> do i just edit the source [06:58:14] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> yeah [06:58:46] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> aight [07:14:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to whosreyou63627> it's same on fandom [12:00:16] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [1/4] damn i think ive got some lost media 😔 [12:00:16] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [2/4] i want to make like this huge essay-ish thing about Kinder World [12:00:17] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [3/4] and i want to talk about their earlier projects, one of them being a game called Keepsake [12:00:17] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [4/4] The itch.io page is gone and the archive doesn't have it [12:49:05] <BlankEclair> ouch [12:49:12] <BlankEclair> just like the first demo of shangri-la [12:58:55] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd, replying to prabhasxd> anyone [15:43:11] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> also one more thing [15:43:14] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> i made a list [15:43:23] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> and it just straight up fucking skips all of them [15:43:28] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> anyone know the reason? [16:00:44] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso> [1/2] How can I make the Discord embeds for my wiki show an image, like this? [16:00:44] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353398067218612324/image.png?ex=67e181ac&is=67e0302c&hm=83937dfa59616dffcb166ea90ab8aaa80a9a4a481af72cb969940df7784dfc80& [16:04:48] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353399089647325295/image.png?ex=67e1829f&is=67e0311f&hm=92589486ca98f84ee7ad352d88ba1ef64eae98fd650e93a6ca72e1c30c8a7fc7& [16:06:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to fcso> PageImages and TextExtract extensions + settings in SEO tab (of Manage this wiki's additional settings) [16:07:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> alternatively image can be manually set/forced by WikiSEO parser function, can be hooked into infobox for example [16:09:50] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Sounds simple enough, I'll try that out [16:21:13] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> if anyone sees anything with Citizen, blame me, I just updated it [16:27:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> rip [16:30:04] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to rhinosf1> the border radii of citizen templates will likely break because the css variable for that was renamed [16:30:19] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> yep they did [16:30:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> blame @blankeclair and @aeywoo for that [16:30:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> they did the change but never actually pushed it earlier [16:32:41] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> welp [16:33:24] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> o [16:41:25] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [1/6] in case anybody needs a temporary fix for the citizen template border radii (the optimal solution would be to just update the templates), you can just redeclare the old property: [16:41:25] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [2/6] ```css [16:41:25] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [3/6] :root { [16:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [4/6] --border-radius--medium: var(--border-radius-medium); [16:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [5/6] } [16:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [6/6] ``` [16:56:19] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> aw man [16:56:36] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> can we push back just so i can get my variables back in order [16:56:41] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> my css is all messed up now [17:03:51] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> may i suggest a revert of the citizen update [17:04:07] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> so we can like figure out how to update and keep our css in order [17:04:32] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [1/2] this is what it looks like now [17:04:33] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353414123639017735/image.png?ex=67e190a0&is=67e03f20&hm=06518262f0f68009bca53b082913c3702d41aad93f7f856437d66a1cf6815de4& [17:04:46] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [1/2] and this is what it looked like before [17:04:46] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353414181315149924/Screenshot_2025-03-22_at_5.09.19_PM.png?ex=67e190ae&is=67e03f2e&hm=8b12d047b7d3d631dc6899a79efe020245256171652c917aa6c51e155206d0e7& [17:08:31] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to rhinosf1> https://tenor.com/view/simpso-riot-gif-4545300067745410584 [17:09:20] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> No blame the citizen devs /j [17:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> i was having a good day up until this point [17:11:20] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-my-class-gif-15768348532634343334 [17:20:15] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> @rhinosf1 what changed in the citizen update i have no clue 😭 [17:22:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @abaddriverlol [17:23:34] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> everything that's listed here https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-skins-Citizen/pull/993 [17:31:37] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> why it changes constantly man [17:32:12] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> they're using OKLCH instead of HSL now which is bad for custom css because OKLCH hasn't been around for that long and it's not compatible with older browsers so wikis basically need to declare both oklch and hsl versions of the variables as a fallback [17:35:11] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> so cute [17:53:05] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to abaddriverlol> is there a color-primary-h equivalent for oklch [17:55:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Cause headaches? [17:55:50] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to a_wildvoltaireian> [1/2] `color-progressive-oklch_h`? [17:55:50] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to a_wildvoltaireian> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353427030775173130/image.png?ex=67e19ca5&is=67e04b25&hm=0aa51c672e3665750cde92415e5a96b5dad9b9ef887a2f94c2a1bf56ef983bcb& [17:56:07] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> The citizen dev is in here I think [17:56:21] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> yep [17:56:50] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> oh shit there is [17:56:53] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> IM SAVED [17:57:11] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> now i gotta find the exact equivalent lol [17:57:39] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> you need to define both oklch and hsl for the progressive color [17:57:46] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> because hsl is used as a fallback in older browsers [18:00:42] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> i was living a nightmare for like an hour straight lol [18:00:43] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> thanks [18:11:15] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> np [18:26:36] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> Ah, is that why some of my code just stopped working? [18:27:41] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Possibly [18:27:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to rhinosf1> vicious cycle of headaches [18:28:45] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> And will it come back at a time when I have to do it all over again? [18:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> You'll need to make the changes mentioned above [18:29:20] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @abaddriverlol @theoneandonlylegroom can probably help [18:29:30] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> okay [18:29:35] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> sure [18:29:36] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> will try that, thanks [18:29:38] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> what exactly is broken? [18:29:42] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> My job is breaking the servers not the UI [18:30:10] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> Part of my text has lost its color [18:30:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm not, I don't use Citizen [18:30:21] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> https://sherlockholmes.wikitide.org/wiki/Sherlock/Manga_series [18:30:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> I don't know if you'll see it [18:30:50] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> ah i see it in light mode [18:31:30] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> I am on light mode [18:33:16] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> was the text color lighter before or the background darker? [18:33:30] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> which colours exactly changed that caused this [18:34:29] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> The color that changed was the same as that of the main text. [18:38:48] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [1/2] `--tg-color-base` causes the text to be too dark, but that shouldn't be caused by the update from what I know [18:38:49] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353437846949724270/image.png?ex=67e1a6b8&is=67e05538&hm=b2d42a9ad42555e3d4be1e0d398c4363af429b606ffc6ce3d06c9273956e68d0& [18:39:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> So, what I have to change ? [18:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> are you sure the text is not intended to have this dark color? [18:41:35] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> to me it looks like the background color is wrong in lightmode instead [18:43:05] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [1/2] when I change the background color to something brighter (like white in this image), it looks less broken [18:43:06] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353438924994904126/image.png?ex=67e1a7b9&is=67e05639&hm=dc030d7193de8a0b964a86311af48080ba47f2ef7836d62c1ea2cfe798eb0ca9& [18:48:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> don't know [18:49:15] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> In fact, it's the templates that are the problem. [18:49:18] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> Mostly [19:08:41] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> well without knowing how it used to look like or is supposed to look like I can't really identify what exactly broke with the update [19:11:34] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Hello. There seems to be a broken page in my wiki. [19:12:25] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> I don't know where do I put my problems. [19:14:22] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to guimitomoisreal> Could you elaborate on your issue please? [19:14:37] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Sure. I can do that. [19:16:41] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> Finally, I'm changing everything manually [19:17:00] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to guimitomoisreal> [1/3] So I imported a page (as a test), and it seems to be broken on the search engine. Unfortunately, it seems I can't delete the broken part of the page, even on the Wiki's deletion tools. [19:17:01] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to guimitomoisreal> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353447458692399204/image.png?ex=67e1afab&is=67e05e2b&hm=1affed52ac3612d42540acb36e1d77adccc88f66ea60df9dc98664a06b27918d& [19:17:01] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to guimitomoisreal> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353447458968965200/image.png?ex=67e1afac&is=67e05e2c&hm=11b0a62fe65e11438b85b44f2319c0eab614bdd518a66e9fc03e6fd2bbf9f532& [19:17:30] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> There's nothing I can do unfortunately. [19:23:27] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> I think images are broken again. [19:25:46] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to mrbradlerz> What [19:25:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> :zuka_bored: [19:27:03] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to guimitomoisreal> Huh, so the stuff showing in search is glitched and not in the page? [19:29:00] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Yes. It's glitched in the search. [19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> [1/2] And also in the import page [19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353450637945344020/image.png?ex=67e1b2a1&is=67e06121&hm=e72eb751fb89a22b90b43a608207bb0686f43c79226e93f2017f83b92ff70ddd& [19:30:27] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Did the page exist pre impor [19:33:28] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz, replying to pixldev> I was browsing a wiki and in place of images I saw a question mark. [19:34:01] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to pixldev> Nope. Wheni I imported it it wasn't created. [20:43:07] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [1/3] kind of an odd question - the community i'm in is planning 2 move from f\ndom but there have already been two people who have made a miraheze wiki. the issue is these people seem 2 be... not very capable. one of them was permanently blocked from the f\ndom wiki for vandalism and most of the pages and templates are poorly copied. they are not good fits for the operation and p [20:43:07] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [2/3] robably won't promote the people who will actually work on the wiki in a comprehensible manner (the community in question is infamous for being full of what we like 2 call "dumb kids," and these two seem 2 fit that description very well). [20:43:08] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [3/3] what are we 2 do in this situation? do we just propose the creation of another wiki under a different url? do we contact the stewards? [20:43:20] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> spologies if this is not the place 2 ask; i'm uncertain of where is best [20:44:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> is mira wiki in question is private? [20:46:00] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> no, it's public but like. i don't trust the people who run it, especially given that one of them says they "hate the wiki" and the other literally has chatgpt bullshit on their userpage [20:46:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ah you can see templates [20:46:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> understandable yeah [20:48:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I think it's worth to discuss w/ stewards [20:48:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] community approved forks are more preferable + if that wiki is barely active more power to you [20:57:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to macabreexude> I think in this case, you may want to consider [[Local election]]s, which can include an revocation vote against the current staff with compelling reasoning [20:57:01] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Local_election> [20:57:12] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I helper handle a similar case [20:57:14] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> ooh, will look over [20:57:32] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> But I’d want a Steward input since it’s a sensitive thing to coup a wiki [20:58:35] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to macabreexude> Important thing is that if current administration abuse their privileges and interfere with the election to try and meddle the outcome, we can and will smack that down. [21:04:23] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to macabreexude> [1/3] for reference these are their profiles [21:04:23] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to macabreexude> [2/3] https://learningblocks.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Numberblocks_Studio [21:04:23] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to macabreexude> [3/3] https://learningblocks.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Kirby [21:05:16] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [1/2] this is the second guy's f*ndom profile where they state they "hate the wiki" [21:05:16] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353474705054761050/image.png?ex=67e1c90c&is=67e0778c&hm=b1fcb0e93bad8e6f8384e1c3d0efa68a0585019597c0b6577de5292f3209c2c9& [21:05:38] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> i genuinely hope this individual is lying about their age [21:06:22] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn, replying to macabreexude> also pretty much nobody significant to the fandom wiki actually supports this move [21:07:14] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn> the move we want to do has support from people including admins from the fandom wiki [21:07:31] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hardly inspires confidence to say the least, but a removal of rights will follow a revocation by a community, we won’t remove on this alone [21:07:44] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Although somehow I doubt that would be an issue [21:16:35] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> I can look into this [21:17:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> hi agent [21:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to porfformelyn> [1/2] an addendum: we’ve only encountered blowback from two of the wiki’s staff members, who gave incredibly arbitrary reasons against the move (highlights include: “if the wiki moves i will get irrationally angry”, “i was put on a reception wiki 5 years ago by someone who was like 10 at the time so the entirety of miraheze is bad and gave me trauma”, and “th [21:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to porfformelyn> [2/2] e smear frames blog post is important and would take forever to move”) [21:17:43] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> the learningblocks community is Not the most mature LMFAO [21:17:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> not reception wikis lmao [21:18:14] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn, replying to macabreexude> TRUE [21:18:20] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> literally move blog to user subpage [21:18:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> do you guys also have horribly chaotic discussions part? [21:19:10] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> oh god yea the discussions on the f\*ndom wiki are. Something [21:19:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] my advice - do not have discussions or any kind of its recreation on fork [21:19:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] there will be complaints, like w/ pizza tower wiki fork, but it's the right thing to do, redirect to discord at least [21:20:19] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> It appears that wiki is a walking copyright violation [21:20:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> raw copy pasting? [21:20:31] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> yep [21:20:33] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> yea LOL [21:20:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> rip [21:20:43] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> it will have to be deleted as unreconcilable copyright violations exist [21:20:49] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> so the domain will be freed up [21:21:10] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Goodbye some wiki. [21:22:50] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> alrite, informed the owner of the f\*ndom wiki that the miraheze domain has been freed [21:25:07] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to agentisai> From the FANDOM Wiki? [21:25:45] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn> yea [21:25:57] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai, replying to pixldev> Yes [21:26:03] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> Literal copy and pasting [21:26:27] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> If it were a small number of pages then that’s one thing but it seems the entire wiki is that [21:42:37] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to pixldev> if the users are active, holding a vote as new users to the platform to straight up usurp them on the spot would not be very chill. There's another route here given the wiki has deep problems otherwise, but typically the first comers are given the opportunity to address issues before going that route [21:42:50] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot, replying to agentisai> Then what is the point of a wiki dump when forking from somewhere? [21:43:02] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to raidarr> mhm [21:43:14] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot, replying to mr_oofalot> Wouldn't that just be a copy and paste? [21:43:14] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> the point of a wiki dump is to grab the pages properly with attribution which is the key [21:43:32] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai, replying to mr_oofalot> No, the wiki dump contains all the revisions necessary for proper copyright attribution [21:43:45] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot> Ah, I understand. [21:43:49] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot> Thanks. [23:32:53] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> PLEASE revert citizen to the release [23:32:56] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> and not the beta [23:35:41] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2, replying to rhinosf1> why and can it be reverted [23:36:54] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868, replying to macabreexude> hi brimstone :D [23:37:36] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> also wowie lb miraheze will be real in [23:38:12] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> hi Hot steamy milk [23:38:20] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> SKDGDKDDHJ [23:45:37] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to dgox2> the same problems would've happened if the skin had been upgraded to the full release [23:45:53] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> people have already started updating their css now [23:46:19] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> a warning would've been nice to transition away from already deprecated stuff tho [23:46:46] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> ngl they should've added a disclaimer to anyone that uses the citizen skin before publishing it [23:46:47] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> because a large amount of the breaking changes were removing deprecated varialbes [23:47:05] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> ig it should've been updated with the 1.43 upgrade already [23:47:46] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to dgox2> and renaming ones that were usdd [23:47:57] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> usdd? [23:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User:Miraheze [23:48:56] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> no way it exists,,,, [23:49:30] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> no fucki*g way [23:51:57] <MirahezeRelay> <realcastle> does that mean there's a user named Fandom on Miraheze [23:53:08] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to realcastle> [[Special:CA/Fandom]] [23:53:08] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Fandom> [23:53:24] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> :stare: [23:53:43] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> [1/2] LMAO [23:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> [2/2] they're real.. [23:56:36] <MirahezeRelay> <omardude> for citizen skin can I make certain sections collapsed by default

[04:25:24] im extremely new to miraheze but is it possible to center text [04:26:20] is it possible to center text [04:28:42] What is the role of a Campaign Editor? [05:59:39] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q120640257 [05:59:40] wth lol [06:46:25] [1/2] anyone know how to prevent this loop of restarting [06:46:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353258567477497958/image.png?ex=67e0ffc0&is=67dfae40&hm=eca28cd3eb4cb57fc52a52cce216553ccebf7a954debf1308f893ce3e2555ce8& [06:46:33] i can old register edits under my account [06:46:41] but i literally made a bot account for mass editing [06:46:58] and it doesnt work when i log into, it just gets stuck in an infinite restart loop [06:51:16] @whosreyou63627 your wiki is private [06:51:50] please drop a screenshot at least [06:51:56] lowkey just gonna send a pic for now [06:51:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353259962075320420/image.png?ex=67e1010d&is=67dfaf8d&hm=26545a8ae689dd3878f755198db336912326e3f77ab4434c309cc00dfc9865af& [06:52:01] matilda needs to be centered [06:52:17] i made this with the portable infobox extention [06:52:44] `.portable-infobox.pi .pi-title {} [06:52:57] the top one? CSS, what Prabhas said [06:54:03] anyways this [06:54:09] this, this is pain [06:55:12] [1/22] where should i put this [06:55:12] [2/22] ```cs [06:55:12] [3/22] [06:55:13] [4/22] [06:55:13] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [5/22] <format><span style="text-align: center">{{{title}}}/span/format [06:55:13] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [6/22] <default><span style="text-align: center">{{PAGENAME}}/span/default [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [7/22] /title [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [8/22] <image source="image"/> [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [9/22] <data source="item_type"> [06:55:14] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [10/22] <label>Item Type/label [06:55:15] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [11/22] /data [06:55:15] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [12/22] <data source="method_of_obtaining"> [06:55:16] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [13/22] <label>Method of Obtaining/label [06:55:16] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [14/22] /data [06:55:17] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [15/22] <data source="item_use"> [06:55:17] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [16/22] <label>Item Use/label [06:55:18] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [17/22] /data [06:55:18] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [18/22] <data source="tooltip"> [06:55:19] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [19/22] <label>Tooltip/label [06:55:19] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [20/22] /data [06:55:20] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [21/22] /infobox [06:55:20] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to prabhasxd> [22/22] ``` [06:55:21] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd, replying to whosreyou63627> its css [06:55:24] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> dont add it there [06:55:28] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> oh mk [06:55:29] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> add it to your wiki's common.css [06:55:40] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> yeah [06:55:41] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> very confused how i can edit that in miraheze [06:55:43] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> im so new to this im sorry [06:55:51] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> its ok to ask mate [06:57:07] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> where ic common.css located [06:57:22] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> MediaWiki:Common.css [06:57:28] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> add that at the end of your wiki's url [06:57:59] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> do i just edit the source [06:58:14] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> yeah [06:58:46] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627> aight [07:14:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to whosreyou63627> it's same on fandom [12:00:16] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [1/4] damn i think ive got some lost media 😔 [12:00:16] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [2/4] i want to make like this huge essay-ish thing about Kinder World [12:00:17] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [3/4] and i want to talk about their earlier projects, one of them being a game called Keepsake [12:00:17] <MirahezeRelay> <ghaztliousmoths> [4/4] The itch.io page is gone and the archive doesn't have it [12:49:05] <BlankEclair> ouch [12:49:12] <BlankEclair> just like the first demo of shangri-la [12:58:55] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd, replying to prabhasxd> anyone [15:43:11] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> also one more thing [15:43:14] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> i made a list [15:43:23] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> and it just straight up fucking skips all of them [15:43:28] <MirahezeRelay> <prabhasxd> anyone know the reason? [16:00:44] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso> [1/2] How can I make the Discord embeds for my wiki show an image, like this? [16:00:44] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353398067218612324/image.png?ex=67e181ac&is=67e0302c&hm=83937dfa59616dffcb166ea90ab8aaa80a9a4a481af72cb969940df7784dfc80& [16:04:48] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353399089647325295/image.png?ex=67e1829f&is=67e0311f&hm=92589486ca98f84ee7ad352d88ba1ef64eae98fd650e93a6ca72e1c30c8a7fc7& [16:06:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to fcso> PageImages and TextExtract extensions + settings in SEO tab (of Manage this wiki's additional settings) [16:07:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> alternatively image can be manually set/forced by WikiSEO parser function, can be hooked into infobox for example [16:09:50] <MirahezeRelay> <fcso, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Sounds simple enough, I'll try that out [16:21:13] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> if anyone sees anything with Citizen, blame me, I just updated it [16:27:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> rip [16:30:04] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to rhinosf1> the border radii of citizen templates will likely break because the css variable for that was renamed [16:30:19] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> yep they did [16:30:36] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> blame @blankeclair and @aeywoo for that [16:30:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> they did the change but never actually pushed it earlier [16:32:41] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> welp [16:33:24] <MirahezeRelay> <whosreyou63627, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> o [16:41:25] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [1/6] in case anybody needs a temporary fix for the citizen template border radii (the optimal solution would be to just update the templates), you can just redeclare the old property: [16:41:25] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [2/6] ```css [16:41:25] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [3/6] :root { [16:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [4/6] --border-radius--medium: var(--border-radius-medium); [16:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [5/6] } [16:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to abaddriverlol> [6/6] ``` [16:56:19] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> aw man [16:56:36] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> can we push back just so i can get my variables back in order [16:56:41] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> my css is all messed up now [17:03:51] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> may i suggest a revert of the citizen update [17:04:07] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> so we can like figure out how to update and keep our css in order [17:04:32] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [1/2] this is what it looks like now [17:04:33] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353414123639017735/image.png?ex=67e190a0&is=67e03f20&hm=06518262f0f68009bca53b082913c3702d41aad93f7f856437d66a1cf6815de4& [17:04:46] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [1/2] and this is what it looked like before [17:04:46] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353414181315149924/Screenshot_2025-03-22_at_5.09.19_PM.png?ex=67e190ae&is=67e03f2e&hm=8b12d047b7d3d631dc6899a79efe020245256171652c917aa6c51e155206d0e7& [17:08:31] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to rhinosf1> https://tenor.com/view/simpso-riot-gif-4545300067745410584 [17:09:20] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> No blame the citizen devs /j [17:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> i was having a good day up until this point [17:11:20] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-my-class-gif-15768348532634343334 [17:20:15] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> @rhinosf1 what changed in the citizen update i have no clue 😭 [17:22:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @abaddriverlol [17:23:34] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> everything that's listed here https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-skins-Citizen/pull/993 [17:31:37] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> why it changes constantly man [17:32:12] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> they're using OKLCH instead of HSL now which is bad for custom css because OKLCH hasn't been around for that long and it's not compatible with older browsers so wikis basically need to declare both oklch and hsl versions of the variables as a fallback [17:35:11] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> so cute [17:53:05] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to abaddriverlol> is there a color-primary-h equivalent for oklch [17:55:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Cause headaches? [17:55:50] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to a_wildvoltaireian> [1/2] `color-progressive-oklch_h`? [17:55:50] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to a_wildvoltaireian> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353427030775173130/image.png?ex=67e19ca5&is=67e04b25&hm=0aa51c672e3665750cde92415e5a96b5dad9b9ef887a2f94c2a1bf56ef983bcb& [17:56:07] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> The citizen dev is in here I think [17:56:21] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> yep [17:56:50] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> oh shit there is [17:56:53] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> IM SAVED [17:57:11] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> now i gotta find the exact equivalent lol [17:57:39] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> you need to define both oklch and hsl for the progressive color [17:57:46] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> because hsl is used as a fallback in older browsers [18:00:42] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> i was living a nightmare for like an hour straight lol [18:00:43] <MirahezeRelay> <a_wildvoltaireian> thanks [18:11:15] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> np [18:26:36] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> Ah, is that why some of my code just stopped working? [18:27:41] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Possibly [18:27:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to rhinosf1> vicious cycle of headaches [18:28:45] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to rhinosf1> And will it come back at a time when I have to do it all over again? [18:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> You'll need to make the changes mentioned above [18:29:20] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @abaddriverlol @theoneandonlylegroom can probably help [18:29:30] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> okay [18:29:35] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> sure [18:29:36] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> will try that, thanks [18:29:38] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> what exactly is broken? [18:29:42] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> My job is breaking the servers not the UI [18:30:10] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> Part of my text has lost its color [18:30:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm not, I don't use Citizen [18:30:21] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> https://sherlockholmes.wikitide.org/wiki/Sherlock/Manga_series [18:30:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> I don't know if you'll see it [18:30:50] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> ah i see it in light mode [18:31:30] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> I am on light mode [18:33:16] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> was the text color lighter before or the background darker? [18:33:30] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> which colours exactly changed that caused this [18:34:29] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> The color that changed was the same as that of the main text. [18:38:48] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [1/2] `--tg-color-base` causes the text to be too dark, but that shouldn't be caused by the update from what I know [18:38:49] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353437846949724270/image.png?ex=67e1a6b8&is=67e05538&hm=b2d42a9ad42555e3d4be1e0d398c4363af429b606ffc6ce3d06c9273956e68d0& [18:39:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> So, what I have to change ? [18:41:26] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> are you sure the text is not intended to have this dark color? [18:41:35] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> to me it looks like the background color is wrong in lightmode instead [18:43:05] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [1/2] when I change the background color to something brighter (like white in this image), it looks less broken [18:43:06] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353438924994904126/image.png?ex=67e1a7b9&is=67e05639&hm=dc030d7193de8a0b964a86311af48080ba47f2ef7836d62c1ea2cfe798eb0ca9& [18:48:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> don't know [18:49:15] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> In fact, it's the templates that are the problem. [18:49:18] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger> Mostly [19:08:41] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> well without knowing how it used to look like or is supposed to look like I can't really identify what exactly broke with the update [19:11:34] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Hello. There seems to be a broken page in my wiki. [19:12:25] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> I don't know where do I put my problems. [19:14:22] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to guimitomoisreal> Could you elaborate on your issue please? [19:14:37] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Sure. I can do that. [19:16:41] <MirahezeRelay> <jeanboulanger, replying to abaddriverlol> Finally, I'm changing everything manually [19:17:00] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to guimitomoisreal> [1/3] So I imported a page (as a test), and it seems to be broken on the search engine. Unfortunately, it seems I can't delete the broken part of the page, even on the Wiki's deletion tools. [19:17:01] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to guimitomoisreal> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353447458692399204/image.png?ex=67e1afab&is=67e05e2b&hm=1affed52ac3612d42540acb36e1d77adccc88f66ea60df9dc98664a06b27918d& [19:17:01] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to guimitomoisreal> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353447458968965200/image.png?ex=67e1afac&is=67e05e2c&hm=11b0a62fe65e11438b85b44f2319c0eab614bdd518a66e9fc03e6fd2bbf9f532& [19:17:30] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> There's nothing I can do unfortunately. [19:23:27] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz> I think images are broken again. [19:25:46] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to mrbradlerz> What [19:25:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> :zuka_bored: [19:27:03] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to guimitomoisreal> Huh, so the stuff showing in search is glitched and not in the page? [19:29:00] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Yes. It's glitched in the search. [19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> [1/2] And also in the import page [19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353450637945344020/image.png?ex=67e1b2a1&is=67e06121&hm=e72eb751fb89a22b90b43a608207bb0686f43c79226e93f2017f83b92ff70ddd& [19:30:27] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Did the page exist pre impor [19:33:28] <MirahezeRelay> <mrbradlerz, replying to pixldev> I was browsing a wiki and in place of images I saw a question mark. [19:34:01] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal, replying to pixldev> Nope. Wheni I imported it it wasn't created. [20:43:07] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [1/3] kind of an odd question - the community i'm in is planning 2 move from f\ndom but there have already been two people who have made a miraheze wiki. the issue is these people seem 2 be... not very capable. one of them was permanently blocked from the f\ndom wiki for vandalism and most of the pages and templates are poorly copied. they are not good fits for the operation and p [20:43:07] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [2/3] robably won't promote the people who will actually work on the wiki in a comprehensible manner (the community in question is infamous for being full of what we like 2 call "dumb kids," and these two seem 2 fit that description very well). [20:43:08] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [3/3] what are we 2 do in this situation? do we just propose the creation of another wiki under a different url? do we contact the stewards? [20:43:20] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> spologies if this is not the place 2 ask; i'm uncertain of where is best [20:44:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> is mira wiki in question is private? [20:46:00] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> no, it's public but like. i don't trust the people who run it, especially given that one of them says they "hate the wiki" and the other literally has chatgpt bullshit on their userpage [20:46:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ah you can see templates [20:46:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> understandable yeah [20:48:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I think it's worth to discuss w/ stewards [20:48:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] community approved forks are more preferable + if that wiki is barely active more power to you [20:57:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to macabreexude> I think in this case, you may want to consider [[Local election]]s, which can include an revocation vote against the current staff with compelling reasoning [20:57:01] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Local_election> [20:57:12] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I helper handle a similar case [20:57:14] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> ooh, will look over [20:57:32] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> But I’d want a Steward input since it’s a sensitive thing to coup a wiki [20:58:35] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to macabreexude> Important thing is that if current administration abuse their privileges and interfere with the election to try and meddle the outcome, we can and will smack that down. [21:04:23] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to macabreexude> [1/3] for reference these are their profiles [21:04:23] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to macabreexude> [2/3] https://learningblocks.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Numberblocks_Studio [21:04:23] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to macabreexude> [3/3] https://learningblocks.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Kirby [21:05:16] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [1/2] this is the second guy's f*ndom profile where they state they "hate the wiki" [21:05:16] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1353474705054761050/image.png?ex=67e1c90c&is=67e0778c&hm=b1fcb0e93bad8e6f8384e1c3d0efa68a0585019597c0b6577de5292f3209c2c9& [21:05:38] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> i genuinely hope this individual is lying about their age [21:06:22] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn, replying to macabreexude> also pretty much nobody significant to the fandom wiki actually supports this move [21:07:14] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn> the move we want to do has support from people including admins from the fandom wiki [21:07:31] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hardly inspires confidence to say the least, but a removal of rights will follow a revocation by a community, we won’t remove on this alone [21:07:44] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Although somehow I doubt that would be an issue [21:16:35] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> I can look into this [21:17:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> hi agent [21:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to porfformelyn> [1/2] an addendum: we’ve only encountered blowback from two of the wiki’s staff members, who gave incredibly arbitrary reasons against the move (highlights include: “if the wiki moves i will get irrationally angry”, “i was put on a reception wiki 5 years ago by someone who was like 10 at the time so the entirety of miraheze is bad and gave me trauma”, and “th [21:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude, replying to porfformelyn> [2/2] e smear frames blog post is important and would take forever to move”) [21:17:43] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> the learningblocks community is Not the most mature LMFAO [21:17:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> not reception wikis lmao [21:18:14] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn, replying to macabreexude> TRUE [21:18:20] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> literally move blog to user subpage [21:18:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> do you guys also have horribly chaotic discussions part? [21:19:10] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> oh god yea the discussions on the f\*ndom wiki are. Something [21:19:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] my advice - do not have discussions or any kind of its recreation on fork [21:19:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] there will be complaints, like w/ pizza tower wiki fork, but it's the right thing to do, redirect to discord at least [21:20:19] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> It appears that wiki is a walking copyright violation [21:20:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> raw copy pasting? [21:20:31] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> yep [21:20:33] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> yea LOL [21:20:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> rip [21:20:43] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> it will have to be deleted as unreconcilable copyright violations exist [21:20:49] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> so the domain will be freed up [21:21:10] <MirahezeRelay> <guimitomoisreal> Goodbye some wiki. [21:22:50] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> alrite, informed the owner of the f\*ndom wiki that the miraheze domain has been freed [21:25:07] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to agentisai> From the FANDOM Wiki? [21:25:45] <MirahezeRelay> <porfformelyn> yea [21:25:57] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai, replying to pixldev> Yes [21:26:03] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> Literal copy and pasting [21:26:27] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai> If it were a small number of pages then that’s one thing but it seems the entire wiki is that [21:42:37] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr, replying to pixldev> if the users are active, holding a vote as new users to the platform to straight up usurp them on the spot would not be very chill. There's another route here given the wiki has deep problems otherwise, but typically the first comers are given the opportunity to address issues before going that route [21:42:50] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot, replying to agentisai> Then what is the point of a wiki dump when forking from somewhere? [21:43:02] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to raidarr> mhm [21:43:14] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot, replying to mr_oofalot> Wouldn't that just be a copy and paste? [21:43:14] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> the point of a wiki dump is to grab the pages properly with attribution which is the key [21:43:32] <MirahezeRelay> <agentisai, replying to mr_oofalot> No, the wiki dump contains all the revisions necessary for proper copyright attribution [21:43:45] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot> Ah, I understand. [21:43:49] <MirahezeRelay> <mr_oofalot> Thanks. [23:32:53] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> PLEASE revert citizen to the release [23:32:56] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> and not the beta [23:35:41] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2, replying to rhinosf1> why and can it be reverted [23:36:54] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868, replying to macabreexude> hi brimstone :D [23:37:36] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> also wowie lb miraheze will be real in [23:38:12] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> hi Hot steamy milk [23:38:20] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> SKDGDKDDHJ [23:45:37] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to dgox2> the same problems would've happened if the skin had been upgraded to the full release [23:45:53] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> people have already started updating their css now [23:46:19] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> a warning would've been nice to transition away from already deprecated stuff tho [23:46:46] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> ngl they should've added a disclaimer to anyone that uses the citizen skin before publishing it [23:46:47] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> because a large amount of the breaking changes were removing deprecated varialbes [23:47:05] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> ig it should've been updated with the 1.43 upgrade already [23:47:46] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to dgox2> and renaming ones that were usdd [23:47:57] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> usdd? [23:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User:Miraheze [23:48:56] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> no way it exists,,,, [23:49:30] <MirahezeRelay> <macabreexude> no fucki*g way [23:51:57] <MirahezeRelay> <realcastle> does that mean there's a user named Fandom on Miraheze [23:53:08] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to realcastle> [[Special:CA/Fandom]] [23:53:08] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Fandom> [23:53:24] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> :stare: [23:53:43] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> [1/2] LMAO [23:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <alstene18_3868> [2/2] they're real.. [23:56:36] <MirahezeRelay> <omardude> for citizen skin can I make certain sections collapsed by default