[01:39:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <inkacorn> [1/2] howdy, i was just wondering how long a typical review takes for a wiki to be created? i was told it’d take a few hours but its been over 24 hours now
[01:39:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <inkacorn> [2/2] sorry if im being impatient, im bedridden and really want to do something to get my mind off of it, thank you <3
[01:52:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian, replying to inkacorn> it can take a bit
[01:52:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian> been waiting 6 days fir mine
[01:53:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <a_wildvoltaireian> but hopefully it takes shorter for yours
[02:09:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jasetendo> does anything rlly happen if you "fork" over the original wiki to mireheze?
[02:15:26] <BlankEclair>	 jasetendo: depends on where you're forking from
[02:15:43] <BlankEclair>	 if you forked from a decent host (and w/ permission from the community), they can shut down the old ver for you
[02:15:48] <BlankEclair>	 however, fandom is not a decent host
[02:15:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jasetendo> ohh ok makes sense
[02:16:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked, replying to BlankEclair> so true
[02:16:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jasetendo> ig nothing happens if u put fandom wiki
[02:16:59] <BlankEclair>	 i mean, fandom won't shut the old ver down
[02:17:01] <BlankEclair>	 but ig so yeah
[02:20:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jasetendo> ah alr
[02:20:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jasetendo> i only did it cuz in the topic's discord im in suggested to make another wiki in a place not fandom
[03:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koskirm> is it possible to make a custom user group that can be auto assigned to people after meeting a certain requirement?
[03:47:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> yes
[03:47:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> autopromotion
[04:20:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koskirm, replying to snowstacked> oh, alright, thank you
[05:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bigbee420> hi i'm so confused about this whole sitemap thing i need help...
[05:44:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bigbee420> i tried using a generator to download a sitemap but now i'm stuck cuz it gave me code
[06:10:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <inkacorn, replying to a_wildvoltaireian> thank you, i hope you don’t have to wait much longer
[06:11:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> I've also been waiting a fair bit
[06:11:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> Four days, in my case
[06:11:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens> Tbf the backup for the original wiki is also going really slow so I don't mind THAT much
[06:13:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <inkacorn> oh dear, are you also migrating from fandom wiki? or another site?
[06:52:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <voidinstructions> is there a way to stop an HTML heading from becoming a collapsing section on mobile? this is causing problems on my main page
[06:55:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to voidinstructions> do you need mobile mode?
[07:41:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bringyourmittens, replying to inkacorn> Skywiki, yeah
[07:53:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <voidinstructions, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I'm not sure what that means unfortunately 
[07:53:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <voidinstructions, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] Currently I'm using <h1> on the main page for the title but on mobile it causes the entire page to be treated like a section
[07:55:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to voidinstructions> [1/3] I mean the mobile mode as a whole
[07:55:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to voidinstructions> [2/3] MobileFrontend extension does this, it adds the switch button, the second and skin and does this section thing
[07:55:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to voidinstructions> [3/3] what skin are you using for desktop version?
[07:56:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <voidinstructions, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I'm currently using Vector 2022
[07:58:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <voidinstructions> I don't know if there's a way to override this section collapsing behaviour, whether completely or for individual sections/headings
[08:01:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] check this out, I never tried this tho
[08:01:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepage_formatting
[08:01:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> actually nvm
[08:01:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> sorry
[08:02:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I would expect some kind of setting in extension but I don't seem to find
[11:00:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kubaaa_k> 🏳️‍⚧️
[11:00:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kubaaa_k> Skibidibi
[11:17:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> is Miraheze no longer understaffed?
[11:18:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah?
[11:18:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> kinda of
[11:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> [1/2] I've been thinking of making an RFC about revisiting the "no reception wikis" rule
[11:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> [2/2] from what i've seen, reception wikis were banned from creation due to taking a significant amount of manpower, but now that that's no longer an issue, it might be time to revisit the rule in the future
[11:18:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> yes, reception wikis are terrible, i don't like them, but "i don't like it" doesn't mean that they shouldn't exist
[11:20:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> while the rule might not be able to be revisited now, I do think that it should be revisited at some point in the future
[11:20:38] <Frisk>	 dunno, I'd still say Miraheze is pretty understaffed but maybe that's just me
[11:20:49] <Frisk>	 at the very least tech team
[11:21:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> the issue of being understaffed does seem to be getting better, tho
[11:22:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> yeah, it's probably best to not revisit the rule now
[11:23:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> although to my knowledge, the whole drama about them has mostly been forgotten about
[11:27:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> [1/2] oh god what is this css
[11:27:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358040231206715602/image.png?ex=67f26506&is=67f11386&hm=2cc22336d9a0ec57db211ebe0e9a937c8bc7799cdeca118dc2eef2eae0f74e14&
[11:29:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> [1/2] might be better suited for css help, but this only renders correctly at a very specific resolution
[11:29:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358040929105084416/image.png?ex=67f265ac&is=67f1142c&hm=2747510fafab2e95de30de641d0510c63d047faac28f4a66123680f5539a9cac&
[11:37:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to _______________________________d> We're understaffed
[11:38:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to _______________________________d> It would definitely still be an excessive use of our time
[11:38:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We are better now but we could double our volunteers and still have spare stuff with ease
[11:47:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> I'd say we're understaffed but the situation is still way better than before
[11:48:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> We've had times with only 2-3 active volunteers
[12:08:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Honestly I would still oppose it, receptionwikis at their core typically border on defamation and libel attacks
[12:09:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> In my opinion, if you want a place to write about unsourced opinions like that theres other sites that will allow it
[12:22:56] <Frisk>	 sounds like I'm blessed enough not to know what reception wikis are, in my mind they were like wikis that had links to other wikis
[12:23:07] <Frisk>	 (no, I don't know if I want to know lol)
[12:26:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Frisk> [[reception wikis]]
[12:26:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Reception_wikis?action=edit&redlink=1>
[12:26:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Drat!
[12:27:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Frisk> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Reception_wikis
[12:28:20] <Frisk>	 okey, that was my second guess based on the chat
[12:28:45] <Frisk>	 Fandom closed those as well
[12:29:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> They live in wikiexile
[12:29:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Well
[12:29:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We still grandfather host the ones that survived
[12:30:21] <Frisk>	 They never spawn good environment or anything productive. If you want to complain about thjngs you like or hate there are things we call blogs, forums or personal websites for that _shrugs_ (yes, look at me defining what a wiki should be about, sorry not sorry)
[12:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Wiki is a term with varied meanings
[12:31:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> But I also don’t think they foster a good environment at all
[12:32:51] <Frisk>	 yeah, I know. Don't really want to gate-keep what a wiki should be, though in some cases its ehhhhhhhhh
[12:52:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie, replying to realadelie> .
[12:53:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to realadelie> either with an image, or with masochism, five energy drinks, and a thousand lines of code
[12:53:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie, replying to rodejong> every day? of the year?
[12:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie, replying to blankeclair> hmm
[12:53:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie> image it is then
[12:53:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> wise choice xD
[12:53:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie> but i do want clickable stations :c
[12:53:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oh true
[12:54:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> uhhh i think you can do image map or smth
[12:54:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> lemme see if i can find it
[12:54:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap
[12:55:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> can someone tell me how the [https://github.com/mc-wiki/mcw-calc/tree/main/src/tools/interactiveMap](minecraft wiki interactive map) and how i can integrate it to my wiki
[12:55:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> fumbled the hyperlink again
[15:24:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie, replying to blankeclair> thanks!
[15:25:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie> does it work with svgs tho
[16:10:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Thank you so much for CirrusSearch on the iCarly Wiki
[16:11:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> 🙏
[16:11:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Thank you
[16:41:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> [1/2] Did it happen only to me or did the formatting of infoboxes break down or something
[16:41:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358119428620816524/image.png?ex=67f2aec8&is=67f15d48&hm=38efce366a96146e9b90025ac59ec0c125cb21f2e0c036a85075d3a03ce2620f&
[16:41:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> It's not meant to be like that
[16:42:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [1/2] what do you mean? 
[16:42:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> [2/2] do you have an old screenshot of what it used to look
[16:42:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__, replying to snowstacked> yes hold on
[16:44:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> [1/3] @snowstacked
[16:44:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358120175513370714/image.png?ex=67f2af7a&is=67f15dfa&hm=2d1b62ac45f4075ec8b744d94ce23893db24fdfbbc9ef7db0e5e3d3c10837e55&
[16:44:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358120175903182879/image.png?ex=67f2af7a&is=67f15dfa&hm=0bafc4bd147f340fe556bcbc2db4a3a7d15022280da14623cd734696a378bb98&
[16:44:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> first pic is how it was before
[16:44:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> second pic is how it is now for some reason
[16:45:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowstacked> sorry what's the difference? i only notice the infobox being moved down 😓
[16:45:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> yeah
[16:46:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> thats the issue
[16:46:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> i didnt change anything and yet for some reason it went down
[16:46:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> no idea at all why that happened
[16:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> i even checked the edit history and nothing of significance was in it
[17:15:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Hey Frisk, just a heads up that the rename went a little sideways.
[17:15:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I've got tech team looking into it, but it'll mean your login is kinda broken until we can get it fixed.
[17:15:49] <Frisk>	 Lmao, no worries
[17:15:53] <Frisk>	 Thank you :)
[17:15:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to lyshaaa__> Link to your wiki?
[17:18:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__, replying to rodejong> nvm i figured it out
[17:18:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lyshaaa__> for some reason i was on mobile view
[17:20:20] <Frisk>	 Miraheze sponsored wiki break might be actually nice 😹
[17:37:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> [1/2] average fandom conversation
[17:37:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358133564838908054/image.png?ex=67f2bbf2&is=67f16a72&hm=928c72b979e6bc31ce44da1cc7bc936096fe1609e01a9c717094bf225db0a86f&
[17:38:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830
[17:39:53] <RhinosF1>	 Frisk: that should be fixed
[17:40:42] <Frisk>	 Welp, that break didn't take long. Haha. Thank you Rhinos :> Y'all really have scripts for everything
[17:48:57] <RhinosF1>	 Frisk: that was involved for a failed rename
[17:49:10] <RhinosF1>	 CentralAuth had lost track of another account for the old Frisk
[17:49:35] <Frisk>	 I see. How often do things like that happen on renames?
[17:49:35] <RhinosF1>	 which blew up when you got renamed
[17:50:26] <RhinosF1>	 Frisk: twice in my many many many years as a member of Tech have I had to rename an account locally and reattach cause it's got lost
[17:50:52] <Frisk>	 interesting
[17:51:05] <RhinosF1>	 they 'fail' all the time
[17:51:17] <RhinosF1>	 renames is one of the most buggy as fuck features
[17:51:27] <RhinosF1>	 but kicking the fix script normally does it fine
[17:51:59] <RhinosF1>	 it just forgets to finish renaming accounts sometimes
[17:56:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Great, now we can grab Frisk and ship him to CVT land
[17:56:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> can we make renames less crap first
[17:56:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> the fix script doesn't even really do anything
[18:05:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie, replying to realadelie> ?
[18:07:20] <Frisk>	 Hah! Trying to rope me into another volunteer thing :D
[18:21:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> 1984
[18:22:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thatonemagma> [1/2] Can anyone help me here
[18:22:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thatonemagma> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358144855175336167/image.png?ex=67f2c676&is=67f174f6&hm=eb615cebf5c4b2c93c105c55f7a2aa43221b1ac71ca24440545705cd576ea32e&
[18:23:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thatonemagma> Idk who i have to contact for this
[18:24:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> [[SR/RC]] @thatonemagma
[18:24:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC>
[18:28:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie> whats the quickest way to have a svg map of train route, with clickable stations that redirect to the city article
[18:39:13] <Frisk>	 Extension:ImageMap probably? Unsure if it supports svgs but I think it should
[18:43:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Frisk> [[Global Patroller]] exists I mean I’m not saying anything but 😊
[18:43:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_Patroller>
[18:46:48] <Frisk>	 One day I get a fancy hat and the next one I'm building a bot that ingests #miraheze-feed and uses simple algos to recognize patterns or common spam. I know how the rabbit hole looks like already! /s
[18:49:17] <Frisk>	 honestly I'm so conflicted where I want to put my time nowadays, doesn't help that my ADHD like symptoms make it really difficult to focus on one thing unless I'm really really enjoying it
[18:54:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Frisk> That already exists don’t worry
[18:54:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Frisk> I can understand that(fellow ADHDer)
[18:54:25] <Frisk>	 good
[18:54:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> #miraheze-cvt-feed maybe?
[18:54:54] <Frisk>	 don't think I were there
[18:55:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://trollpasta.com/w/index.php?oldid=340209&rcid=166424
[18:55:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Huh
[18:59:09] <Frisk>	 the deep web of Miraheze's user creative output, don't think my feeble mind can comprehend the magnitude of what trollpasta is
[18:59:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to Frisk> Probably a good thing
[19:00:26] <Frisk>	 I've seen such communities. I'm happy they have their own thing. I won't even attempt to try understanding them :D
[19:13:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Ditt and o
[19:38:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dardanilbmapper, replying to fungifungus> why does Red from angry birds look like Omsk
[19:38:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dardanilbmapper> if you know what I mean
[19:52:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> what wikis uses the Modern skin?
[19:52:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to Frisk> hi frisk (undertale)
[19:58:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Frisk, have you edited on zh animalroyale under the friskygoat alias before?
[19:58:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Trying to suss out some deep post rename weirdness
[20:01:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Disregard, figured it out
[20:13:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to dardanilbmapper> winged doom?
[20:13:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dardanilbmapper> yes that one
[20:16:14] <Frisk>	 Hah, I don't remember if I did anyways. But thank you for looking into weirdness.
[20:16:43] <Frisk>	 Hi bartomelow
[20:23:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to realadelie> [1/2] oh hmm, good question
[20:23:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to realadelie> [2/2] dunno tbh
[20:35:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jimscott2025> Is the OSCA Wiki still in development?
[20:36:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to jimscott2025> ask the wiki
[20:36:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> we're just the host
[20:40:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realadelie, replying to blankeclair> what should i do instead tho?
[20:40:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i'll figure that out once i get out of bed ^^;
[21:11:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> [1/2] I have the cirrussearch enabled but no related articles thing showed up
[21:11:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358187245709955244/IMG_1781.png?ex=67f2edf1&is=67f19c71&hm=d6a1406fb4d3ac6b74cdb0952a9c99817922dbf111a1bd4b5744e4e288b0a769&
[21:12:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> [1/2] Ike it does on my other Wiki
[21:12:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358187503034830859/IMG_1782.png?ex=67f2ee2e&is=67f19cae&hm=369990d8267903eb0e215fb78f07857c08ac4c885f729d47f3d354ae7cb95a3d&
[22:19:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> I have a question
[22:21:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> cirrussearch and related articles are enabled on my Wiki but I still don’t have the related articles thing on my wiki
[22:21:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358204932624351455/IMG_1783.png?ex=67f2fe6a&is=67f1acea&hm=97d344335f6369ef985d18c25be6cb2647d38b5b6a0122a3c75d5de06b3e6a5d&
[22:43:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to Frisk> hi!!!
[22:56:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> Is there a Styles/Skins 101 somewhere
[22:57:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tyrian_uk> You mean CSS styling?
[22:57:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> I'm trying to setup a wiki for an author, and he's got a bunch of series, and i wanted a basic style but with different background images for each series
[22:58:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I think we maaaaay but I don’t recall, maybe try a search of Meta’s help pages
[22:58:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> wait
[22:58:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to pixldev> Probably, i've got a 'skins' addin which lets me define different skins for each page, but i can't work out where to make new skins or how to make different style sheets for the different sections
[22:58:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [[special:prefixlist/Help:]]
[22:58:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Prefixlist/Help:?action=edit&redlink=1>
[22:58:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> what
[22:59:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> oh
[22:59:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> this aspect of coding is totally new to me. i've managed to get some templates setup for basic content which my happy bunch of gophers will be populating with next week, but i wanna make stuff look... well, not black on white
[22:59:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_customise_the_look_of_my_wiki
[23:02:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> thanks, i'm learning fast that being a database programmer doesn't help with creating web pages... Lol/
[23:03:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to tyrian_uk> Oh that is a solid mood. I’m a backender, fucking ass at frontend or making things pretty😂
[23:04:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Our line of work(or hobby for me) doesn’t lend itself to requiring pretty, thank ward.
[23:04:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> ok, so there's a "MediaWiki:Common.css" where can make site-wide changes, which is a start, but for more localised changes, say a background image which is different on different pages, can the CSS control that too?
[23:04:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to pixldev> IKR, half the time i'm feeding data into powerBI for someone artistic to design visualisations, i just need to make consistent tables, they can look like crap as long as the data is consistent and links correctly.
[23:36:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to pixldev> realest shit i ever did hear
[23:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> whats the best way of importing codex's css variables
[23:45:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> just `@import '@wikimedia/codex-design-tokens/theme-wikimedia-ui.css';`?
[23:45:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> would that actually work
[23:47:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [1/3] ok, so... mixed bag.  having read thru, my plan now is to use the common.css to set the overall tone, but then use individual <templatestyle> for each series {i.e. an opacity reduced background image} - i've tried on my first one;
[23:47:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [2/3] and it doesn't seem to do anything
[23:47:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358226497818595570/image.png?ex=67f3127f&is=67f1c0ff&hm=886ad54491fd909d9b2d39ccf6db46f790bb08cac4116891f47cba1e392d7a9a&
[23:47:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> is there a separate namespace just for the main page
[23:47:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> i've heard that there is a main page namespace
[23:47:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358226637618937968/image.png?ex=67f312a1&is=67f1c121&hm=a5a938c729518b867c26bff36421fd3a291a15422717ef9672faaa50d99c42ed&
[23:47:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1358226637916995815/image.png?ex=67f312a1&is=67f1c121&hm=71d9852b6baa5c42d188419c8ff317db64c113c0ea3e7867fd1ee36a0049176e&
[23:48:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2, replying to fungifungus> it uses Project: aka Your_wiki_name:
[23:48:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> well
[23:48:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> some wikis do that
[23:48:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> the mediawiki default is Main Page
[23:48:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> usually its in the main namespace
[23:52:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> my wiki just disappeared bro
[23:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> what happened
[23:53:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> All wikis just disappeared
[23:53:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <guardy107> i think mine just did too
[23:53:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> erm
[23:53:57] <Frisk>	 goodbye wikis
[23:54:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> Even meta is dead
[23:54:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> oh tfft. i thought i'd done something stupid then
[23:54:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> yep
[23:54:12] <Frisk>	 anyways, that's some kind of fatal error on Miraheze
[23:54:12] <BlankEclair>	 oh fuck
[23:54:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> oh dear me
[23:54:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> well, stupider.
[23:54:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel, replying to tyrian_uk> Yeah same, just starting getting a 404 error too
[23:54:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7101334> [1/2] OH GOOD MY WHOLE WIKI ISNT DEAD
[23:54:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7101334> [2/2] (I assume)
[23:54:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <7101334> just joined this server to ask and then perhaps sob
[23:54:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dgox2> hahaaaa
[23:54:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> whoops, that wasn't meant to be a reply, sorry @tyrian_uk
[23:54:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> someone at miraheze's getting fired /j
[23:54:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <souseisekirozen> Oh so it is server wide
[23:54:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <souseisekirozen> I got scared for a minute
[23:55:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk, replying to gummiel> np, tho if you've an answer for what insantity i've managed there, i'd appreciate it.
[23:55:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost> @Infrastructure Specialists I assume you are aware, but pinging just in case. all wikis are currently dead
[23:55:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> someone pinged in #tech
[23:56:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> was about to try something more basic, like change the BG colour to see if it's teh image command or the whole thing, debugging like a true coder "what, it doesnt work, change one thing at a time until you narrow down the cock up"
[23:56:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @tyrian_uk Watch your language.
[23:56:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> o.o
[23:56:12] <Frisk>	 seems to be back
[23:56:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> back
[23:56:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> it's back
[23:56:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dustydrago> I thought I messed up setting wiki bot in my own server, only to realize it was just miraheze  😅
[23:56:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> "just" xD
[23:56:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> i was kinda scared for a second
[23:56:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyrian_uk> mental note, Dyno doesn't like british colloquialisms
[23:57:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> yes
[23:57:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> ads on miraheze
[23:57:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> If it makes anyone feel better, the way you know your wiki is dead dead is if you see an error saying “Database not found”
[23:57:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to dustydrago> I'm just glad Wiki-Bot can handle some downtime before removing recent changes feeds 😄
[23:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <alexbnt> I was in the middle of creating a page when it stopped working, was scared I was going to lose it before remembering I had my information backed up 🥹
[23:59:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <markusrost, replying to agentisai> I don't know, ngix 404 error page feels kinda worse because no indicator of miraheze is left
[23:59:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <fungifungus> wow i love citing the testwiki home page
[23:59:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> if the wikis databases were on the same server then it’d be a worry
[23:59:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> but even if MediaWiki is deleted, all is well
[23:59:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> but if the database is deleted then you’re done for