<format>{{{type}}} by {{{artist}}} from the album {{album}}/format/title``` [00:20:39] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to slima11ng> Think you forgot a pain of {} around album (only have 2 there), but otherwise yes [00:21:03] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> thanks i didn't notice that [00:21:12] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> but yeah thanks [00:44:47] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [1/4] I'm trying to do a title type but it doesn't seem to be working and I'm not sure if it's just taking a while to update or if I did something wrong in the code. [00:44:47] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366938298110705704/image.png?ex=6812c3fe&is=6811727e&hm=184be1e47bcbeac49183d1a221bc6800086379d3ee51fd033d4af6ae32dd3c82& [00:44:48] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366938298395791541/image.png?ex=6812c3fe&is=6811727e&hm=3fd7e1fc14cade52eb7e7dbc524181c8484c8857fc00c4f6c3cd130a0ef686a2& [00:44:48] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366938298664353893/image.png?ex=6812c3fe&is=6811727e&hm=6f51409204cf209dcc801a133af0dcfea105602392bf0c8fcfad2873f1219a25& [00:52:34] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> [1/2] `type` is not a valid `<title>` atttribute, only the main `<infobox>` tag can have that as an attribute. You can add a `name` attribute though, that would be accessible under something like `.pi-title[data-item-name="yournamehere"]` [00:52:34] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> [2/2] Check https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Infoboxes/Tags to see what all the tags are, and what attributes, can be used on eache etc. MH implementation is the same as fandom, so that is, sadly, really the best documentation we have [00:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [1/3] Something like this ? [00:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366941518161641524/image.png?ex=6812c6fe&is=6811757e&hm=4ca06170d57b0485d788e089a5a75a8aa2f3814f9433c5f14ed4dc853a5e04cd& [00:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366941518581203060/image.png?ex=6812c6fe&is=6811757e&hm=32f6aad54dbca50ae64711ff7ecca7859a467c379da3850f5c38603a677f6dc6& [00:58:45] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> That doesn't seem to work. I'm probably doing it wrong. [01:12:54] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Looks correct. Ofc the usual caveats of, if you are doing it on the sitewise mediawiki css pages, it might take a while to kick in, and CSS and it's hierarchy rules can be weird to work with sometimes [01:14:08] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> right [01:14:22] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> I am doing it on Common.css [01:14:26] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> so it might just take a while then [01:14:38] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> Oh yeah it works now [01:14:56] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> Made the text way too small tho [01:15:06] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> but yeah thank you for your help [01:35:34] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> hey, absolute beginner here: i'm trying to make an infobox template for my wiki but I'm only getting "template loop detected" [01:35:47] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> wait hold up i'm pretty sure this goes in support [01:35:50] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> ill be back later [02:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366960042984869939/Screenshot_2025-04-30_at_10.10.53.png?ex=6812d83f&is=681186bf&hm=7847afabb2ef620b208062b02ea8c910d5d1741ad08063130b149f9bc39f2552& [02:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366960043211227237/Screenshot_2025-04-30_at_10.11.03.png?ex=6812d83f&is=681186bf&hm=748fa0db004d38bd569b22ab1cfda9899dfc030358df01960361d58e6f1d85cd& [02:11:37] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> friend of mine said he'd work on it but he didn't even bother texting me on discord about it [02:11:39] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> completely ignored [03:39:31] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> link to wiki would be the easiest to test [03:39:57] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> since we can directly touch and probe it, and figure out what's happening [03:40:10] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> can i dm? [03:40:28] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> sure, but fyi, i'll go have my lunch within like one minute [03:40:35] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> i'm sitting on the toilet rn ^^; [03:55:57] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> How do I move multiple pages between namespaces? GUIDES:PAGENAME to PAGENAME/GUIDES [04:14:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thisaintfunny> [1/2] Is it possible to customize portable infobox to this extent? [04:14:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thisaintfunny> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366991126556577822/image.png?ex=6812f532&is=6811a3b2&hm=86e4bbdb37e61699762f6713993137f02242517216785a760c4002f726fcc0aa& [04:37:23] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> [1/2] ah, i see what you're doing there; you have the {{Infobox country | ...}} invocation inside the template itself [04:37:23] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> [2/2] see [[mw:Help:Templates]] and [[Infoboxes]] for info on templates in general, and info on making infoboxes respectively [04:37:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates> [04:37:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes> [04:38:11] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to thisaintfunny> with javascript, i suppose so? [04:38:15] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> bro i am code illiterate 😭😭😭 [04:38:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i'll give it a try once i get home [04:38:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thanks [04:38:28] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz, replying to thisaintfunny> I don't think that it worth the effort, unless you have extreme supports from others [04:39:04] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz, replying to thisaintfunny> Try looking into its backend first, know how they get it to work first [06:41:05] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall> did miraheze just die? [06:42:56] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to ashley.cornwall> i don't think so [06:44:28] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall, replying to suzuneu> whenever i send someone a wiki link it says site not found [06:44:28] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall> but [06:44:33] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall> when im on the site myself and reload its there [06:56:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to ashley.cornwall> Not aware of any issues [06:56:11] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Did you send them the correct link? [06:58:59] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall, replying to rhinosf1> yep checked 3 times [07:28:15] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> [1/2] I renamed a user group but tried including a regular space in it, and now I can't get rid of it because apparently trying to edit the user group takes me to edit "wiki_moderator" instead of "wiki moderator" [07:28:15] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367039836015562853/image.png?ex=6813228f&is=6811d10f&hm=19d0d12f26977f9ea7fc6affdebdb69c4d4a912d4224c230dfdb12863ea83cd0& [07:30:34] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha, replying to dustydrago> Well you must have found a bug in the new system... technically they'd be the same in the system a space is an underscore in MediaWiki. I'll look at it and get it fixed for you tomorrow. [07:31:48] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> I apologize for that. [07:33:26] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> hmm I wonder if you found a long time bug... what if a group with spaces is created the normal way... [07:38:57] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> for the record, I did try to include a space when I first made the group, but it got turned into an underscore [07:40:04] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> then I tried renaming and well, now my groups are a bit of a mess lol [07:40:28] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> odd since it should have the same validation. Well nice bug you found then lol. I'll see what I can do to fix it tomorrow. [07:40:54] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> I guess with new systems bugs are sometimes inevitable but I thought I tested things enough lol. [07:40:59] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> Guess not. [07:59:43] <BlankEclair> welcome to computers ig x3 [08:10:02] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha, replying to dustydrago> please remove any users from that group if you can or it'll be in a huge mess when I fix it. [08:10:25] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> I can do it manually if it doesn't let you though. [08:46:13] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> no, sorry. I'm just going in circles [08:46:27] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> like i said, code-illiterate. I genuinely cannot figure out what's going wrong [08:46:32] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> I have the exact same error [08:47:35] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> -# autists when they don't immediately understand a completely different concept that they've never tried before [08:49:14] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> <small>i was about to go "oh hey, another autistic person :3", until i remembered that this is a server dedicated to creating wikis specialised on a single topic/small [08:49:25] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> (how do you that small test thingy on discord? ^^;) [08:52:49] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> -# high-functioning/aspie unintentionally left undiagnosed or unstudied until this year when i turned 17. My mum who already knew i was special did this so that I didn't walk around with a label that would get me ostracised by normal people. VERY risky but VERY successful because i'm seen as slightly weird instead of austistic lol [08:53:17] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> -# I still have the EQ of a rock though lmao [08:53:31] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> could you PLEASE help me 😭 🙏 [08:53:58] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> oh yeah, forgot to do that ^^; [08:56:05] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thank youuu [08:56:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i deleted the first article i shared and started over [08:56:19] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i'll send it [08:57:56] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> do you want it to be called Template:Infobox country, or Template:Country [08:58:37] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> also, bad timing once again, but i'm gonna go have dinner... ^^; [08:58:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> aw [08:58:53] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> whatever works but i prefer the latter [08:59:00] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> oki ^_^ [08:59:03] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> tyyy [09:00:21] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> (let's hope i don't forget and remember ten hours later) [09:03:06] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> alr [09:03:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> fingers crossed lol [09:10:56] <MirahezeRelay> <amanda_stock23> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367065675918606426/Screenshot_20250430_073802_Telegram.jpg?ex=68133a9f&is=6811e91f&hm=a23f3635a5d9704540aed1f1f2bdd346e8ad2319d8705826a157e6220d9b1800& [09:11:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> @Discord Moderators [09:12:31] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> Handled [09:29:51] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to blankeclair> i rember [09:30:36] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> YES [09:37:56] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> https://ferrusviscer.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Country [09:38:05] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> now added :3 [09:38:28] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> THANK UUU [09:38:46] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> oh shoot hold on [09:39:35] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> if you have some free time could you also add like a divider green area and calling extension titled "modern statistics" pls?? cos i don't wanna change the template completely as my project develops [09:40:03] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> (for your reference it's a nation role play spanning at least 100 years) [09:40:04] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> wdym? [09:41:00] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> making an image (maybe in something like paint) would probably help visualise it for me ^^; [09:49:44] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> alr alr [09:53:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [1/2] very sorry [09:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367076444655849473/Screenshot_2025-04-30_at_17.53.35.png?ex=681344a7&is=6811f327&hm=c4bacfc56c195aabd3adbc1907353e20e7133a33a4d115254de3a58ce53f5070& [09:53:50] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> oh shoot i forgot you could add text on GIMP [09:53:58] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> eh its readable enough lol [09:54:14] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> tell me if it isnt then ill use actual text [09:54:22] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> done ^ [09:54:36] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> ah oki :3 [09:54:47] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thanks claire- you're a lifesaver [09:55:03] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> modern info or modern statistics [09:55:21] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> yw :3c [09:59:28] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> opted for modern information [10:02:23] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> yah! [10:03:06] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> oh wait hold [10:03:08] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> hold on [10:03:10] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> 😭 [10:03:31] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i was under the assumption that fandom and miraheze used different software [10:03:32] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> smhhhh [10:03:37] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i know how to code that [10:03:46] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i once successfully made an infobox template for war [10:03:49] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> yk one with 2 sides [10:03:56] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> sorry 2 collumns [10:04:02] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> welp [10:04:13] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thanks a lot claire :))) [10:12:05] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> now you know x3 [10:12:12] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> yhhh [10:13:17] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> mediawiker…. [12:36:43] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> We just don’t force heavy modifications and ads like Fandom but the core software is same [13:08:09] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> [1/2] Hey guys! Quick question: I have dozens of Categories like "1966 births", "1972 births", "2011 deaths", "1999 deaths" used for biographical articles and sorting. [13:08:10] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> [2/2] Is there a quick way to make all move all these categories into "Deaths by year" or "Births by year" parent category? [13:11:33] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> Looks like [this](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MsCatSelect) extension can solve my problem, but the page says it's incompatible with MW 1.44 or later... [13:14:31] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> mass edit regex? [13:14:52] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> or hotcat gadget [13:17:08] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Or AWB or PWB [13:17:35] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Or loboriously loop over all the pages from an API call and edit them manually if you feel like being extra 💀 [13:22:49] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> JWB [13:26:28] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> guys what are AWB, PWB and JWB? [13:28:46] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> [1/2] [[WP:AWB]] = autowikibrowser [13:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> [2/2] [[WP:JWB]] = javascriptwikibrowser [13:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB> [13:28:48] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JWB> [13:28:48] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> pwb idk [13:31:03] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> Pywikibot probably [13:33:10] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> I guess on Mac, I have to use JWB. [14:27:51] <MirahezeRelay> <kingplaystation> Guten Tag [14:31:18] <MirahezeRelay> <realadelie> does anybody have a template for military conflict that isnt from wikipedia? [15:25:58] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to BlankEclair> BLankEclair: I have thought about your suggestion to enable tls 1.2 until October, what do I need to do to request this formally? [15:26:56] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Phabricator [15:27:02] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Phorge even [15:27:08] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> [[Phorge]] [15:27:09] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge> [16:33:16] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> Nah we just have people ping rhinos in #support [17:03:32] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Ye just ping me works [17:04:24] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> What browser is your friend using @snufkin_vc [17:04:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And which wiki [17:09:31] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to rhinosf1> thank you, I have asked him about the web browser in IRC, the wiki is <https://uxnomicon.miraheze.org/wiki/Uxnomicon> [17:09:57] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> I'll ping you back once I got his answer. [17:14:53] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> so just to understand this is because of his choice of web browser? my dad uses windows 7 with firefox (I guess updated version) and it works! [17:16:27] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> If this can be fixed by using an up to date web browser I wouldn't want to bother you. [17:17:20] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> probably he is using some small lesser known web browser and they havent added support for tls 1.3 [17:20:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to snufkin_vc> There are some tools that have genuine issues because .NET but the major browsers have all supported TLS1.3 for a few years [18:08:53] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham, replying to snufkin_vc> Almost 100% certain it's a browser problem. [18:18:01] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> [1/3] > I use a old version of Firefox (and have many reasons why I do not want to upgrade), but I also use Lynx as well. I also cannot access (and do ont want to access) Discord. [18:18:02] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> [2/3] > Another idea is to set up mirrors [18:18:02] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> [3/3] > (I have had other problems with Miraheze too, even before they changed it to TLS 1.3, and not all of the problems have to do with which web browser you are using) [18:18:27] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to rhinosf1> I wont be needing this after all, thank you very much for your support. [18:19:33] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> It is a choice, so I'll just keep focusing on adding content to my wiki, sorry for the noise :P [18:23:17] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> Miraheze "works for me ™️" in every device I have tested it, I know some of my friends don't even update their windows computers and software lol and it works, my other friend setup must be really custom. [18:25:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to snufkin_vc> It's normally automated applications that have trouble [18:41:24] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is there an empty character for templates? [18:42:04] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> my template is inserting a random line break it i dont give it some text import in the else result of an #ifeq: [18:42:54] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> but i dont want any text there [18:45:38] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> or is there a transclusion thats always returning empty [18:46:21] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> I've straight been trying to use the form to send a permission removal request for 5 or so days in a row, I dont think it's working ngl. [18:46:46] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to h0sm> the few volunteers are usually busy [18:47:00] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> can take a few days [18:47:01] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm, replying to lole5309> No i mean, it doesnt send. [18:47:07] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> Isnt meant to show up? [18:47:13] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> uh idk [18:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> If I have spammed these people for the past 5 day, I am so sorry. [18:48:56] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to lole5309> how about putting a zero width space? [18:49:26] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> let me try to see if it works [18:50:48] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to snufkin_vc> whats that? [18:50:54] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> html? [18:52:22] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> [1/2] I cant find it all, I think It might be a good idea to just straight up leave it for a bit. [18:52:22] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367211997023699054/EF6F4935-4E28-4E75-A2F5-8E929D0ACDDA.png?ex=6813c2e5&is=68127165&hm=e0ca8bcbac1d4b809370d40f5a221e295426d61b93ee71351fd63f0cb3ce4ddb& [18:53:20] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to snufkin_vc> worked thank you [19:05:04] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is there an alternative to tabber? [19:05:28] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> it sucks that it ignore all basic wiki syntax like onlyinclude and such [19:06:37] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> [[MW:Extension:TabberNeue]] [19:06:38] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue> [19:08:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Tabs [19:08:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> which I'm not sure will be supported in the future [19:08:53] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> TabberNeue is way more stable than Tabs from my experience [19:08:59] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> Tabs is a bit buggy [19:09:11] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> so I wouldn't really recommend using Tabs [19:11:50] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> i think i got it working with onlyinclude after all [19:12:02] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> the other was throwing me into a loop [19:13:51] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is it possible to transclude a page as it appears? without regenerating the templates for the current page? [19:15:04] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> subst? [19:18:23] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> embed an article without transclusion [19:24:39] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> rip [19:34:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to abaddriverlol> [1/2] for sure, but that's the only alternative to TabberNeue [19:34:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to abaddriverlol> [2/2] idk what's going on Tabber, there are lots pf complaints about it in the last couple of months [19:35:18] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> tabberneue is annoying that you cant make sections conditional [19:35:34] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> as soon as it detects |-| anywhere it WILL create that tab [19:36:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> for that you have `{{!}}` pipe replacement [19:36:35] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> didnt work either [19:38:56] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> also no magic word detects in what tab i am [19:43:08] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to lole5309> what would you need that for [19:43:18] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> can i give parameters for transcluded pages? [19:44:01] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to abaddriverlol> i want to make a list that automatically updates itself to different game versions depending on what articles are available [19:44:40] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> ideally id have the base list with all available articles and then tabs to go to their version secific pages [19:44:51] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to lole5309> don't think so, only for templates [19:45:26] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> i have no need for tabber then, simple links it is [19:57:40] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is {{PROTECTIONEXPIRY}} updated ever? [19:57:40] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PROTECTIONEXPIRY?action=edit&redlink=1> [19:59:19] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> [[MW:Manual:Checking_for_page_existence/PROTECTIONEXPIRY_method]] does this mean its never updated or just updated rarely [19:59:20] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Checking_for_page_existence/PROTECTIONEXPIRY_method> [20:05:15] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to lole5309> Never [20:22:06] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> rip [20:36:06] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [1/2] how do i make it not do that 😭 [20:36:07] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367238105282904284/image.png?ex=6813db36&is=681289b6&hm=18630ab300dd35682987e0eef4d5d7c6bb053fe88ba1dfa604e7e8e63fb17490& [20:37:46] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [1/2] (edited image) i want it to look like this [20:37:47] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367238524491006012/image.png?ex=6813db9a&is=68128a1a&hm=fa421a39780597e311cdd1a0f71da477b1ffb1a9ff2e51ebd161f2fe33602293& [20:53:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm not sure, correct me someone, but try to add `<div style="clear: both;">/div` after first image [20:58:49] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> ill try [20:59:10] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> WORKS [20:59:12] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> THANK YOU [21:06:57] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you make a template w/ this little code and use that instead [21:07:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Template:Clear -> `{{clear}}` [22:11:08] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> [1/2] erm [22:11:09] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367262022110281788/image.png?ex=6813f17c&is=68129ffc&hm=51d0209d2184228cae3571513fcb69940f8a45db4dc83204f3493608fd8c4970& [22:11:39] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> oh its on all miraheze wikis [22:13:00] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> why is css so slow to load [22:13:07] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> even personal [22:33:26] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to dgox2> The link is fine imo, as the real documentation probably is on the WM site, that is where you should got for the decumentation for the software in general, but yeah the first word should absolutely be changed xD [22:34:43] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> the wikimedia page is specifically about wikimedia's use of it so imo it should link to [[mw:Extension:CentralNotice]] [22:34:44] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralNotice> [22:35:45] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> ohh, yeah that was basically what I was confusing it with... it is kinda confusing having MediaWiki, and WikiMedia... they couldn't make the names a bit more distinch PLEASE? [22:36:02] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> rip [22:46:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to gummiel> its not that bad once you're used to it [22:46:24] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> is it a problem with mediawiki itself or [23:08:10] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to pixldev> i spent like an hour wondering why mediawiki/css-sanitizer wasn't being installed, until i realised that it was wikimedia/css-sanitizer [23:16:05] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> there are two css sanitizers?? [23:18:56] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> no [23:19:12] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> mediawiki/css-sanitizer doesn't exist [23:19:39] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> ah oops i misinterpreted that [23:31:51] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> ?

[00:14:25] [1/3] I have something that works but still don't know how to get multiple sources. [00:14:25] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366930657770737664/image.png?ex=6812bce1&is=68116b61&hm=6dd966cc1b87135dd3c88beab8f641399a1e6529565508d199c623ae976a24f8& [00:14:26] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366930658110345336/image.png?ex=6812bce1&is=68116b61&hm=e16e7dfcfba0a8ba639171aa859b8c800f79215d2676664716a67b9f48f1c33a& [00:17:12] the `source` parameter is kinda pointless when you use a `` tag, you can just put any of the templates parameters inside the `` tag, even if they are not otherwise connected to that particular data source [00:19:03] [1/2] So I could just do like this ? [00:19:03] [2/2] ``` <format>{{{type}}} by {{{artist}}} from the album {{album}}/format/title``` [00:20:39] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to slima11ng> Think you forgot a pain of {} around album (only have 2 there), but otherwise yes [00:21:03] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> thanks i didn't notice that [00:21:12] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> but yeah thanks [00:44:47] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [1/4] I'm trying to do a title type but it doesn't seem to be working and I'm not sure if it's just taking a while to update or if I did something wrong in the code. [00:44:47] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366938298110705704/image.png?ex=6812c3fe&is=6811727e&hm=184be1e47bcbeac49183d1a221bc6800086379d3ee51fd033d4af6ae32dd3c82& [00:44:48] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366938298395791541/image.png?ex=6812c3fe&is=6811727e&hm=3fd7e1fc14cade52eb7e7dbc524181c8484c8857fc00c4f6c3cd130a0ef686a2& [00:44:48] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366938298664353893/image.png?ex=6812c3fe&is=6811727e&hm=6f51409204cf209dcc801a133af0dcfea105602392bf0c8fcfad2873f1219a25& [00:52:34] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> [1/2] `type` is not a valid `<title>` atttribute, only the main `<infobox>` tag can have that as an attribute. You can add a `name` attribute though, that would be accessible under something like `.pi-title[data-item-name="yournamehere"]` [00:52:34] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> [2/2] Check https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Infoboxes/Tags to see what all the tags are, and what attributes, can be used on eache etc. MH implementation is the same as fandom, so that is, sadly, really the best documentation we have [00:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [1/3] Something like this ? [00:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366941518161641524/image.png?ex=6812c6fe&is=6811757e&hm=4ca06170d57b0485d788e089a5a75a8aa2f3814f9433c5f14ed4dc853a5e04cd& [00:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366941518581203060/image.png?ex=6812c6fe&is=6811757e&hm=32f6aad54dbca50ae64711ff7ecca7859a467c379da3850f5c38603a677f6dc6& [00:58:45] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> That doesn't seem to work. I'm probably doing it wrong. [01:12:54] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Looks correct. Ofc the usual caveats of, if you are doing it on the sitewise mediawiki css pages, it might take a while to kick in, and CSS and it's hierarchy rules can be weird to work with sometimes [01:14:08] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> right [01:14:22] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> I am doing it on Common.css [01:14:26] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> so it might just take a while then [01:14:38] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> Oh yeah it works now [01:14:56] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> Made the text way too small tho [01:15:06] <MirahezeRelay> <slima11ng> but yeah thank you for your help [01:35:34] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> hey, absolute beginner here: i'm trying to make an infobox template for my wiki but I'm only getting "template loop detected" [01:35:47] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> wait hold up i'm pretty sure this goes in support [01:35:50] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> ill be back later [02:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366960042984869939/Screenshot_2025-04-30_at_10.10.53.png?ex=6812d83f&is=681186bf&hm=7847afabb2ef620b208062b02ea8c910d5d1741ad08063130b149f9bc39f2552& [02:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366960043211227237/Screenshot_2025-04-30_at_10.11.03.png?ex=6812d83f&is=681186bf&hm=748fa0db004d38bd569b22ab1cfda9899dfc030358df01960361d58e6f1d85cd& [02:11:37] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> friend of mine said he'd work on it but he didn't even bother texting me on discord about it [02:11:39] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> completely ignored [03:39:31] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> link to wiki would be the easiest to test [03:39:57] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> since we can directly touch and probe it, and figure out what's happening [03:40:10] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> can i dm? [03:40:28] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> sure, but fyi, i'll go have my lunch within like one minute [03:40:35] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> i'm sitting on the toilet rn ^^; [03:55:57] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> How do I move multiple pages between namespaces? GUIDES:PAGENAME to PAGENAME/GUIDES [04:14:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thisaintfunny> [1/2] Is it possible to customize portable infobox to this extent? [04:14:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thisaintfunny> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1366991126556577822/image.png?ex=6812f532&is=6811a3b2&hm=86e4bbdb37e61699762f6713993137f02242517216785a760c4002f726fcc0aa& [04:37:23] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> [1/2] ah, i see what you're doing there; you have the {{Infobox country | ...}} invocation inside the template itself [04:37:23] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> [2/2] see [[mw:Help:Templates]] and [[Infoboxes]] for info on templates in general, and info on making infoboxes respectively [04:37:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates> [04:37:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes> [04:38:11] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to thisaintfunny> with javascript, i suppose so? [04:38:15] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> bro i am code illiterate 😭😭😭 [04:38:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i'll give it a try once i get home [04:38:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thanks [04:38:28] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz, replying to thisaintfunny> I don't think that it worth the effort, unless you have extreme supports from others [04:39:04] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz, replying to thisaintfunny> Try looking into its backend first, know how they get it to work first [06:41:05] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall> did miraheze just die? [06:42:56] <MirahezeRelay> <suzuneu, replying to ashley.cornwall> i don't think so [06:44:28] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall, replying to suzuneu> whenever i send someone a wiki link it says site not found [06:44:28] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall> but [06:44:33] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall> when im on the site myself and reload its there [06:56:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to ashley.cornwall> Not aware of any issues [06:56:11] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Did you send them the correct link? [06:58:59] <MirahezeRelay> <ashley.cornwall, replying to rhinosf1> yep checked 3 times [07:28:15] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> [1/2] I renamed a user group but tried including a regular space in it, and now I can't get rid of it because apparently trying to edit the user group takes me to edit "wiki_moderator" instead of "wiki moderator" [07:28:15] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367039836015562853/image.png?ex=6813228f&is=6811d10f&hm=19d0d12f26977f9ea7fc6affdebdb69c4d4a912d4224c230dfdb12863ea83cd0& [07:30:34] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha, replying to dustydrago> Well you must have found a bug in the new system... technically they'd be the same in the system a space is an underscore in MediaWiki. I'll look at it and get it fixed for you tomorrow. [07:31:48] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> I apologize for that. [07:33:26] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> hmm I wonder if you found a long time bug... what if a group with spaces is created the normal way... [07:38:57] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> for the record, I did try to include a space when I first made the group, but it got turned into an underscore [07:40:04] <MirahezeRelay> <dustydrago> then I tried renaming and well, now my groups are a bit of a mess lol [07:40:28] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> odd since it should have the same validation. Well nice bug you found then lol. I'll see what I can do to fix it tomorrow. [07:40:54] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> I guess with new systems bugs are sometimes inevitable but I thought I tested things enough lol. [07:40:59] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> Guess not. [07:59:43] <BlankEclair> welcome to computers ig x3 [08:10:02] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha, replying to dustydrago> please remove any users from that group if you can or it'll be in a huge mess when I fix it. [08:10:25] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> I can do it manually if it doesn't let you though. [08:46:13] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> no, sorry. I'm just going in circles [08:46:27] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> like i said, code-illiterate. I genuinely cannot figure out what's going wrong [08:46:32] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> I have the exact same error [08:47:35] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> -# autists when they don't immediately understand a completely different concept that they've never tried before [08:49:14] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> <small>i was about to go "oh hey, another autistic person :3", until i remembered that this is a server dedicated to creating wikis specialised on a single topic/small [08:49:25] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> (how do you that small test thingy on discord? ^^;) [08:52:49] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> -# high-functioning/aspie unintentionally left undiagnosed or unstudied until this year when i turned 17. My mum who already knew i was special did this so that I didn't walk around with a label that would get me ostracised by normal people. VERY risky but VERY successful because i'm seen as slightly weird instead of austistic lol [08:53:17] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> -# I still have the EQ of a rock though lmao [08:53:31] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> could you PLEASE help me 😭 🙏 [08:53:58] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> oh yeah, forgot to do that ^^; [08:56:05] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thank youuu [08:56:16] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i deleted the first article i shared and started over [08:56:19] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i'll send it [08:57:56] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> do you want it to be called Template:Infobox country, or Template:Country [08:58:37] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> also, bad timing once again, but i'm gonna go have dinner... ^^; [08:58:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> aw [08:58:53] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> whatever works but i prefer the latter [08:59:00] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> oki ^_^ [08:59:03] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> tyyy [09:00:21] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> (let's hope i don't forget and remember ten hours later) [09:03:06] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> alr [09:03:11] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> fingers crossed lol [09:10:56] <MirahezeRelay> <amanda_stock23> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367065675918606426/Screenshot_20250430_073802_Telegram.jpg?ex=68133a9f&is=6811e91f&hm=a23f3635a5d9704540aed1f1f2bdd346e8ad2319d8705826a157e6220d9b1800& [09:11:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> @Discord Moderators [09:12:31] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> Handled [09:29:51] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to blankeclair> i rember [09:30:36] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> YES [09:37:56] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> https://ferrusviscer.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Country [09:38:05] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> now added :3 [09:38:28] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> THANK UUU [09:38:46] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> oh shoot hold on [09:39:35] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> if you have some free time could you also add like a divider green area and calling extension titled "modern statistics" pls?? cos i don't wanna change the template completely as my project develops [09:40:03] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> (for your reference it's a nation role play spanning at least 100 years) [09:40:04] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> wdym? [09:41:00] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> making an image (maybe in something like paint) would probably help visualise it for me ^^; [09:49:44] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> alr alr [09:53:43] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [1/2] very sorry [09:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367076444655849473/Screenshot_2025-04-30_at_17.53.35.png?ex=681344a7&is=6811f327&hm=c4bacfc56c195aabd3adbc1907353e20e7133a33a4d115254de3a58ce53f5070& [09:53:50] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> oh shoot i forgot you could add text on GIMP [09:53:58] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> eh its readable enough lol [09:54:14] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> tell me if it isnt then ill use actual text [09:54:22] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k, replying to blankeclair> done ^ [09:54:36] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> ah oki :3 [09:54:47] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thanks claire- you're a lifesaver [09:55:03] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> modern info or modern statistics [09:55:21] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> yw :3c [09:59:28] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> opted for modern information [10:02:23] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> yah! [10:03:06] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> oh wait hold [10:03:08] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> hold on [10:03:10] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> 😭 [10:03:31] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i was under the assumption that fandom and miraheze used different software [10:03:32] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> smhhhh [10:03:37] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i know how to code that [10:03:46] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> i once successfully made an infobox template for war [10:03:49] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> yk one with 2 sides [10:03:56] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> sorry 2 collumns [10:04:02] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> welp [10:04:13] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> thanks a lot claire :))) [10:12:05] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to jesuschristin4k> now you know x3 [10:12:12] <MirahezeRelay> <jesuschristin4k> yhhh [10:13:17] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> mediawiker…. [12:36:43] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> We just don’t force heavy modifications and ads like Fandom but the core software is same [13:08:09] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> [1/2] Hey guys! Quick question: I have dozens of Categories like "1966 births", "1972 births", "2011 deaths", "1999 deaths" used for biographical articles and sorting. [13:08:10] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> [2/2] Is there a quick way to make all move all these categories into "Deaths by year" or "Births by year" parent category? [13:11:33] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> Looks like [this](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MsCatSelect) extension can solve my problem, but the page says it's incompatible with MW 1.44 or later... [13:14:31] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> mass edit regex? [13:14:52] <MirahezeRelay> <snowstacked> or hotcat gadget [13:17:08] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Or AWB or PWB [13:17:35] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Or loboriously loop over all the pages from an API call and edit them manually if you feel like being extra 💀 [13:22:49] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> JWB [13:26:28] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> guys what are AWB, PWB and JWB? [13:28:46] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> [1/2] [[WP:AWB]] = autowikibrowser [13:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> [2/2] [[WP:JWB]] = javascriptwikibrowser [13:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [1/2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB> [13:28:48] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> [2/2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:JWB> [13:28:48] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair> pwb idk [13:31:03] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> Pywikibot probably [13:33:10] <MirahezeRelay> <mayuxi_> I guess on Mac, I have to use JWB. [14:27:51] <MirahezeRelay> <kingplaystation> Guten Tag [14:31:18] <MirahezeRelay> <realadelie> does anybody have a template for military conflict that isnt from wikipedia? [15:25:58] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to BlankEclair> BLankEclair: I have thought about your suggestion to enable tls 1.2 until October, what do I need to do to request this formally? [15:26:56] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Phabricator [15:27:02] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> Phorge even [15:27:08] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> [[Phorge]] [15:27:09] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge> [16:33:16] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> Nah we just have people ping rhinos in #support [17:03:32] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Ye just ping me works [17:04:24] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> What browser is your friend using @snufkin_vc [17:04:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And which wiki [17:09:31] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to rhinosf1> thank you, I have asked him about the web browser in IRC, the wiki is <https://uxnomicon.miraheze.org/wiki/Uxnomicon> [17:09:57] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> I'll ping you back once I got his answer. [17:14:53] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> so just to understand this is because of his choice of web browser? my dad uses windows 7 with firefox (I guess updated version) and it works! [17:16:27] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> If this can be fixed by using an up to date web browser I wouldn't want to bother you. [17:17:20] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> probably he is using some small lesser known web browser and they havent added support for tls 1.3 [17:20:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to snufkin_vc> There are some tools that have genuine issues because .NET but the major browsers have all supported TLS1.3 for a few years [18:08:53] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham, replying to snufkin_vc> Almost 100% certain it's a browser problem. [18:18:01] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> [1/3] > I use a old version of Firefox (and have many reasons why I do not want to upgrade), but I also use Lynx as well. I also cannot access (and do ont want to access) Discord. [18:18:02] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> [2/3] > Another idea is to set up mirrors [18:18:02] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> [3/3] > (I have had other problems with Miraheze too, even before they changed it to TLS 1.3, and not all of the problems have to do with which web browser you are using) [18:18:27] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to rhinosf1> I wont be needing this after all, thank you very much for your support. [18:19:33] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to notaracham> It is a choice, so I'll just keep focusing on adding content to my wiki, sorry for the noise :P [18:23:17] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> Miraheze "works for me ™️" in every device I have tested it, I know some of my friends don't even update their windows computers and software lol and it works, my other friend setup must be really custom. [18:25:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to snufkin_vc> It's normally automated applications that have trouble [18:41:24] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is there an empty character for templates? [18:42:04] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> my template is inserting a random line break it i dont give it some text import in the else result of an #ifeq: [18:42:54] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> but i dont want any text there [18:45:38] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> or is there a transclusion thats always returning empty [18:46:21] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> I've straight been trying to use the form to send a permission removal request for 5 or so days in a row, I dont think it's working ngl. [18:46:46] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to h0sm> the few volunteers are usually busy [18:47:00] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> can take a few days [18:47:01] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm, replying to lole5309> No i mean, it doesnt send. [18:47:07] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> Isnt meant to show up? [18:47:13] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> uh idk [18:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> If I have spammed these people for the past 5 day, I am so sorry. [18:48:56] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc, replying to lole5309> how about putting a zero width space? [18:49:26] <MirahezeRelay> <snufkin_vc> let me try to see if it works [18:50:48] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to snufkin_vc> whats that? [18:50:54] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> html? [18:52:22] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> [1/2] I cant find it all, I think It might be a good idea to just straight up leave it for a bit. [18:52:22] <MirahezeRelay> <h0sm> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367211997023699054/EF6F4935-4E28-4E75-A2F5-8E929D0ACDDA.png?ex=6813c2e5&is=68127165&hm=e0ca8bcbac1d4b809370d40f5a221e295426d61b93ee71351fd63f0cb3ce4ddb& [18:53:20] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to snufkin_vc> worked thank you [19:05:04] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is there an alternative to tabber? [19:05:28] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> it sucks that it ignore all basic wiki syntax like onlyinclude and such [19:06:37] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> [[MW:Extension:TabberNeue]] [19:06:38] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue> [19:08:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Tabs [19:08:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> which I'm not sure will be supported in the future [19:08:53] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> TabberNeue is way more stable than Tabs from my experience [19:08:59] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> Tabs is a bit buggy [19:09:11] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> so I wouldn't really recommend using Tabs [19:11:50] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> i think i got it working with onlyinclude after all [19:12:02] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> the other was throwing me into a loop [19:13:51] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is it possible to transclude a page as it appears? without regenerating the templates for the current page? [19:15:04] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> subst? [19:18:23] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> embed an article without transclusion [19:24:39] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> rip [19:34:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to abaddriverlol> [1/2] for sure, but that's the only alternative to TabberNeue [19:34:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to abaddriverlol> [2/2] idk what's going on Tabber, there are lots pf complaints about it in the last couple of months [19:35:18] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> tabberneue is annoying that you cant make sections conditional [19:35:34] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> as soon as it detects |-| anywhere it WILL create that tab [19:36:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> for that you have `{{!}}` pipe replacement [19:36:35] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> didnt work either [19:38:56] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> also no magic word detects in what tab i am [19:43:08] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to lole5309> what would you need that for [19:43:18] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> can i give parameters for transcluded pages? [19:44:01] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309, replying to abaddriverlol> i want to make a list that automatically updates itself to different game versions depending on what articles are available [19:44:40] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> ideally id have the base list with all available articles and then tabs to go to their version secific pages [19:44:51] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to lole5309> don't think so, only for templates [19:45:26] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> i have no need for tabber then, simple links it is [19:57:40] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> is {{PROTECTIONEXPIRY}} updated ever? [19:57:40] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/PROTECTIONEXPIRY?action=edit&redlink=1> [19:59:19] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> [[MW:Manual:Checking_for_page_existence/PROTECTIONEXPIRY_method]] does this mean its never updated or just updated rarely [19:59:20] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Checking_for_page_existence/PROTECTIONEXPIRY_method> [20:05:15] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to lole5309> Never [20:22:06] <MirahezeRelay> <lole5309> rip [20:36:06] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [1/2] how do i make it not do that 😭 [20:36:07] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367238105282904284/image.png?ex=6813db36&is=681289b6&hm=18630ab300dd35682987e0eef4d5d7c6bb053fe88ba1dfa604e7e8e63fb17490& [20:37:46] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [1/2] (edited image) i want it to look like this [20:37:47] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367238524491006012/image.png?ex=6813db9a&is=68128a1a&hm=fa421a39780597e311cdd1a0f71da477b1ffb1a9ff2e51ebd161f2fe33602293& [20:53:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm not sure, correct me someone, but try to add `<div style="clear: both;">/div` after first image [20:58:49] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> ill try [20:59:10] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> WORKS [20:59:12] <MirahezeRelay> <angysharky> THANK YOU [21:06:57] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you make a template w/ this little code and use that instead [21:07:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Template:Clear -> `{{clear}}` [22:11:08] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> [1/2] erm [22:11:09] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1367262022110281788/image.png?ex=6813f17c&is=68129ffc&hm=51d0209d2184228cae3571513fcb69940f8a45db4dc83204f3493608fd8c4970& [22:11:39] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> oh its on all miraheze wikis [22:13:00] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> why is css so slow to load [22:13:07] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> even personal [22:33:26] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to dgox2> The link is fine imo, as the real documentation probably is on the WM site, that is where you should got for the decumentation for the software in general, but yeah the first word should absolutely be changed xD [22:34:43] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> the wikimedia page is specifically about wikimedia's use of it so imo it should link to [[mw:Extension:CentralNotice]] [22:34:44] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CentralNotice> [22:35:45] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> ohh, yeah that was basically what I was confusing it with... it is kinda confusing having MediaWiki, and WikiMedia... they couldn't make the names a bit more distinch PLEASE? [22:36:02] <MirahezeRelay> <dgox2> rip [22:46:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to gummiel> its not that bad once you're used to it [22:46:24] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> is it a problem with mediawiki itself or [23:08:10] <MirahezeRelay> <blankeclair, replying to pixldev> i spent like an hour wondering why mediawiki/css-sanitizer wasn't being installed, until i realised that it was wikimedia/css-sanitizer [23:16:05] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> there are two css sanitizers?? [23:18:56] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> no [23:19:12] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> mediawiki/css-sanitizer doesn't exist [23:19:39] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol> ah oops i misinterpreted that [23:31:51] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> ?