[01:00:45] This wiki is blatant copyright violations. Moving for deletion! [01:22:35] We'll discuss internally and get back to the wiki admin on next steps depending on what's needed. No action today. [01:59:28] [1/2] Thank you very much! [01:59:29] [2/2] This is also the first time I’ve heard of Vylet but I have to say your wiki looks _smooth_. [02:39:38] how do i ban people [02:41:55] [[Special:Block]] [02:41:56]

[02:42:10] ty [02:42:51] i had gamble ads show on my wiki so i wanted to ban them [02:44:33] H u h [02:44:44] might be actionable as global policy vio [02:44:49] Not sure rn [02:44:51] yeah someone made an account to post gamble sites on their user page [03:06:47] They did what? [03:07:46] Oh wait this isn't off-topic. [03:15:07] yeah [06:51:33] <90gq29> [1/2] Is there a way to remove this little arrow for links? [06:51:33] <90gq29> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1369929702156013568/G7YBksK.png?ex=681da5f5&is=681c5475&hm=d911b50fdb1b484076d041bb4706f0bb965526279764fabcb4b86f5a18b7b416& [06:51:54] <90gq29> ↗️ [06:55:50] ```(links)/span``` [07:07:29] <90gq29, replying to harmicelli> no way to do it through the common.css? [07:10:18] I have no idea‥ srry. [07:11:30] maybe someone knows [08:07:43] <90gq29> Figured it with a bit searching, thanks for trying though. [09:36:50] Hi there. I have a question if that's okay. [09:36:51] During the summer of 2024, I partially built up an article series on Wikibooks (Wikimedia website) that seeks to explain introductory real-world physics concepts (such as projectile motion, types of forces, work-energy theorem) via media from the multiplayer physics game Bonk.io. [09:36:51] Website Link: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Physics_Explained_Through_a_Video_Game [09:36:52] It was since brought to my attention that my uploaded media onto Wikimedia's services were likely in violation of Wikimedia's free-use policy. Namely, this is because the owner of the Bonk.io does not having a copyright policy for user-generated media on the Bonk.io website. As such, the owner of Bonk.io may own the rights to user-generated media [09:36:52] created by anyone who uses his software. Despite multiple attempts since August 2024, I have been unable to get clarification from the owner of Bonk.io concerning a copyright policy. [09:36:53] As such, I intend on making soon making a mass deletion request to remove the media (i.e. images, video) used on Wikimedia for this project. This is to comply with Wikimedia's copyright policy. To note, I already have all of the media backed up on my computer. [09:36:53] However, I would like to continue working on this project. That is, to continue making educational articles about physics by using levels either created my myself or by other Bonk.io players with appropriate attribution. To the best of my understanding, Miraheze allows for fair use content. [09:36:54] To cut to the chase, what would be the best way to verify that my project, in its current state, is indeed compliant with Miraheze's copyright policy? [09:38:37] @rodejong [10:19:06] [1/3] it’s funny how some people instantly assume every business is a scam. I actually started my own dropshipping business about a month ago, and it’s been going really well! Right now, I’m averaging around $4,000 a day, which is super exciting—and I’m aiming to hit $5,000 daily next. [10:19:06] [2/3] If you’ve been thinking about getting into dropshipping or want to scale your current store, feel free to reach out or add me as a friend. I’m more than happy to share what’s been working for me and help you crush your own goals too! [10:19:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1369981933898956822/WhatsApp_Video_2024-11-24_at_07.24.12_c773366d_2_1_1_1.mp4?ex=681dd69a&is=681c851a&hm=618b1e008e4375847ae5d6a05517a336a3dd9a8efbd9517e62e20e534103642a& [10:20:24] <90gq29> @rhinosf1 advertisement bot [10:20:50] why me [10:20:57] i can't do anything about that [10:21:06] i have miraheze root not discord root [10:21:10] @Discord Moderators [10:21:47] :BanHammerMH: [10:26:20] [1/2] @MonkeyButler: [10:26:20] [2/2] Copyright policy is indeed tricky. I need to research this first. [10:27:32] <90gq29, replying to rhinosf1> oh mb [10:27:38] <90gq29> able to help with an import request tho? [10:27:47] <90gq29> already pinged so might as well ask [10:27:51] that i might be able to [10:28:21] <90gq29, replying to rhinosf1> goat [10:28:22] <90gq29> https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13646 [10:40:31] [1/13] @MonkeyButler: [10:40:31] [2/13] In principle, everything is '''copyrighted unless otherwise stated'''. You can always find the rules regarding use of images, text, etc. in their terms of use. If a website doesn't have any ToU, then everything is copyrighted by the website, even if other users contribute to that website. [10:40:31] [3/13] 📜 '''[[w:Fair use|Fair use doctrine]]:''' [10:40:32] [4/13] * There exists the rule of Fair Use, under which you can use an image to explain the purpose of the game for example. [10:40:32] [5/13] Fair use is a legal doctrine that allows for the limited use of copyrighted material without permission from the copyright owner for purposes such as criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. [10:40:32] [6/13] * However, fair use is subject to limitations, including considerations of the purpose and character of the use, the nature of the copyrighted work, the amount and substantiality of the portion used, and the effect of the use on the potential market for the original work. [10:40:33] [7/13] Copyright law establishes the legal framework for creators to protect their original works from unauthorized use or reproduction, thereby restricting the scope of fair use. [10:40:33] [8/13] * [[c:Commons:Fair use|Commons:Fair use]] [10:40:33] [9/13] * [[w:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria|Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria]] [10:40:33] [10/13] * [[w:Fair use|Fair use]] [10:40:34] [11/13] Fair use is using copyrighted images which prohibits commercial use. It is one of the main reasons that [[c:Commons Wikimedia|Commons Wikimedia]] (The repository for [[Wikipedia]]) also prohibits the Fair Use Doctrine. It is simply not compatible with most [[Creative Commons]] licenses. [10:40:34] [12/13] So when you use a copyrighted image, make sure to state the Fair Use purpose. You can copy the template from Wikipedia: [[w:Template:Non-free fair use|Template:Non-free fair use]]. [10:40:35] [13/13] As you want to use items from other users, best practise is to credit them accordingly. You can ask these users to release their items under a Creative Commons license, or ask them to upload it on your own project. [10:40:35]

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[2/2] [10:42:13] If they do not respond, you can use the Fair use doctrine, and do as stated above. [11:58:10] is it allowed if there are existing wikis under the same topic but in a different language? say Ice Spice Polish Wiki and/or Ice Spice German Wiki [11:59:16] Yes. That is allowed [12:12:00] [1/2] does anyone else's wiki glitch into russian [12:12:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370010344348586157/image0.jpg?ex=681df10f&is=681c9f8f&hm=0e27557d57869ff6d60550f0249725b6ceabcbad43325bd07de7a08d9dd02dba& [12:12:04] im not even russian 😭 [12:16:11] i think english means english [12:16:38] Seems to be just the interface parts right?, check the `Special:ManageWiki/core` that the language there hasn't been changed for some reason. [12:17:00] still English [12:17:03] [1/2] eigo jozu [12:17:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370011615227019324/1746706619283.png?ex=681df23e&is=681ca0be&hm=4f15b8a9d43bdaecf289550dd6875ccfd255aeb400a54807af96e6620d404d24& [12:18:10] exactly what i was referring to [12:18:34] the interface language is in russian, no? [12:19:53] is there even russian for English [12:21:00] interface lang is a hella confusing thing [12:21:50] [1/2] I keep russian UI only on Meta, because I was translating [12:21:51] [2/2] otherwise all eng wikis give me eng ui, and so on [12:24:19] uhhh dunno what you mean by this [12:24:26] me too [12:26:19] [1/2] im just being silly about how the word "english", in an otherwise russian string, doesn't need translation [12:26:19] [2/2] not much else [12:31:38] that's w/ all lang options like you see lang list on wikipedia article [12:38:35] [1/2] anyway the text says "previous language:", implying the use of the language switcher in the header [12:38:35] [2/2] did you change it accidentally or did it just randomly turn into russian at one point [12:38:55] it changed into russian by itself [12:38:59] wtf [12:40:15] that is freaky, but at least you can change it back [13:29:07] Hey guys! Does anybody know something about CGNAT users don’t see Wikitide served images on Miraheze wikis (broken images); while upload.wikimedia works? [13:32:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370030542296449154/remix-e5de6718-b2f1-4839-88f9-233981512769.png?ex=681e03df&is=681cb25f&hm=04867df85846097ea99c65db89ed143a0617b610831c6a86ff6d37fdeb39e866& [13:33:46] I can check logs if you've got an ip [14:02:53] according to https://whatismyipaddress.com/ 216.205.163.161 [14:05:11] don't see any 4/5XX responses [14:17:04] Weird, thanks 🙏 [14:40:45] [1/2] > just tried to access https://static.wikitide.net/capoeirawiki/8/8e/Capoeirawiki-high-resolution-logo-transparent.svg at 14:18 UTC [14:40:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1370047780063674369/Captura_de_Tela_2025-05-08_as_21.40.07.png?ex=681e13ed&is=681cc26d&hm=2e358175d6ff8af85a3b61c1f04d8849c1943e29325ab78b1578cc15d9654fbb& [14:42:55] I don't see a request to static from that ip at that time [15:11:11] [1/2] I asked this guy to try and setup Cloudflare DNS Resolver and it did the trick 😄 Now everything works for him. 😄 [15:11:11] [2/2] thanks again for the help [15:11:52] cool [15:59:51] <.guardianx.> [1/3] I'm looking to make a module / template system that takes multiple inputs in through a "add" template and then displays them when a "list" template is used on the page, is thta possible? [15:59:52] <.guardianx.> [2/3] Basicly something like "addItem | Item1" "addItem | Item2" "listItems" [15:59:52] <.guardianx.> [3/3] but it seems like every time I call "addItem" on the page it wipes out the variable I created to store all the items and then when I "ListItems" it's an empty lua table [16:00:40] <.guardianx.> I'm thinking that it all needs to be done within one module reference [16:05:55] i'm guessing you want [[mw:Extensions:Variables]]? [16:05:55]

[16:06:21] <.guardianx.> I swear I had it enabled but I'll take a look, thanks! [16:06:43] it's not a drag-and-drop replacement, but it should hopefully be ~close enough [16:07:08] the feature you asked for sounded very variable-like, so i figured that i should suggest it :p [16:08:21] @blankeclair what am I going to say? [16:08:48] i assume that they'd notice the giant warning at the top of the page? ^^; [16:09:24] <.guardianx.> LoL me? [16:09:32] yeah ^^; [16:09:33] <.guardianx.> Yeah I saw that and was like Hmm [16:09:58] <.guardianx.> I need more foccee to read warnings though [16:14:57] <.guardianx.> [1/2] So the way that I read that, briefly, is that they are removing support for iterations on a page? [16:14:57] <.guardianx.> [2/2] I swear I thought that MiraHeze didn't / doesn't run parsoid though [16:16:50] multiple parser functions/extension tags will be parsed at the same time with parsoid, therefore you cannot have variables as wikitext is no longer parser in a linear way from start to end [16:17:23] and parsoid will replace the old parser eventually [16:17:40] / [16:17:48] <.guardianx.> So ya, one call, one return. [16:18:56] <.guardianx.> or thats how I understand it [16:20:06] <.guardianx.> Well, thankfully this was a first toe in the water test for this idea so, nothing really lost [17:01:12] <_plasticbottle> Is there a a way that allows you to display the code without it becoming code on a page? I'm making a page to help new editors, but explaining things without a visual is somewhat difficult- [17:03:45] [1/5] ``` [17:03:45] [2/5]

[17:03:46] 	  [3/5] ...
[17:03:46] 	  [4/5] /pre
[17:03:46] 	  [5/5] ```
[17:03:59] 	  if you need syntax highlighting you can also use the syntax highlighting extension
[17:14:17] 	 <_plasticbottle> So I'm working on a wiki for a game, how do i got about the licensing. I want to avoid copyright of course or are wiki's assumed free resource? I'm new to this whole thing
[17:16:31] 	  [1/2] if we talk about assets fair use is assumed in majority of cases
[17:16:32] 	  [2/2] ideally ofc permission to use is needed, but you don't usually expect that w/ big studios/AAA, unless devs/publishers get involved in supporting the wiki (like Terraria or LoL)
[17:19:03] 	 <_plasticbottle> [1/2] its a niche game with only a thousand people or so at this time, so I wasn't too sure.
[17:19:03] 	 <_plasticbottle> [2/2] When uploading an image from the game it gives a checkbox saying "This is my own asset" which it requires me to click to upload it... how do I go about making that not a requirement?
[17:20:21] 	  in upload form licenses can be setup and in there you can pick Fair Use, templates for that required
[17:21:39] 	 <_plasticbottle> Ouurhf, maybe I'm more in over my head than I thought because I'm not sure how to do that or what that means- I've been tryingto look through the Miraheze help pages too for this, but maybe I havne't found the right one yet
[17:28:41] 	  mediawiki.org is where general stuff/help
[17:28:57] 	  Meta Wiki is just things specific to Miraheze
[17:29:01] 	  anyway
[17:29:41] 	  licence templates look like boxes w/ text, which tells details
[17:29:52] 	  can be simple, can be complicated
[17:36:30] 	  [1/2] for example
[17:36:30] 	  [2/2] 
[17:36:49] 	  you can import templates from this wiki
[17:37:08] 	  
[17:38:31] 	  [1/4] once you have templates on your wiki, you go to MediaWiki:Licenses page and make this code
[17:38:32] 	  [2/4] `*Name of licence template|Option in drop-down`
[17:38:32] 	  [3/4] example 
[17:38:32] 	  [4/4] 
[17:40:00] 	  on already uploaded images you go to their file pages (like File:Something.png) and click edit - it will change description of image
[17:40:24] 	  [1/2] and you can put licence manually 
[17:40:24] 	  [2/2] `{{fair use}}`
[17:50:33] 	 <_plasticbottle> Last question, would I have to do any of that if I got permission to just say "All assets unless specified are owned by (game)"? Because I was waiting on a reply from the game and they just said I can say that ermmm
[18:02:52] 	  sourcing is mandatory regardless
[18:03:07] 	  great you got permission too
[18:03:30] 	  "uploaded w/ permission" template is a thing too
[18:30:17] 	  This is essentially what I did for my game wiki.
[21:49:17] 	  Bring back WikiGrid