[00:40:56] [1/3] How do you create templates like this? [00:40:57] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371285986503561216/image.png?ex=68229518&is=68214398&hm=de308fbe0b0b0b609193d814e5ce35d565ecd050a22b8035817f0e6980dae0a0& [00:40:57] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371285986755088394/image.png?ex=68229518&is=68214398&hm=6d1242e91feefc4261cbf00e84848cec05d6a22095b61ece6d1af03cf61dcc3c& [00:46:57] Either tables or divs, the easiest way to find out is probably just to look at the template's code [00:47:54] True, though for the Terraria example I couldn't locate the source for the life of me [00:50:29] [1/2] Terraria uses [Template:Msgbox](), example: [00:50:30] [2/2] it seems their template are a bit more complex than what's necessary for most wikis because they are translated to multiple languages [01:19:49] Got it working how I want it, thanks [01:54:16] I got an important question. Is there a way we can shadow our wiki link with our own domain? Or have it work with our original site wiki link? E.G. galaxypedia.org [02:00:36] Definitely [02:00:40] [[custom domains]] [02:00:41]

[02:19:30] awesome! thanks [03:16:02] Would changing a wiki's domain ruin page links? [03:16:50] Or would old wiki links that you've sent auto-redirect to the updated domain [03:17:28] like how old gamepedia links redirect to fandom [03:17:33] auto redirect [03:17:44] interesting, nice to know [03:17:48] although it will hinder SEO [03:18:15] if you registered console you'll have to register again and migrate data [03:18:59] I did w/ pizzatower.wiki but can't say it was effective, our seo still got worse but we stopped caring [05:17:26] [1/2] Why did they make an account with my name? [05:17:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371355567368441896/image.png?ex=6822d5e5&is=68218465&hm=e5887d4d617c1da8520dfad95c23850fa3b57c37cf1921feeb89ca85cc89c0eb& [05:20:03] it actually means you visited their wiki [05:20:23] huh weird i dont remember doing that [05:20:27] maybe i did [06:58:01] I dunno if I asked before, but is there a way to make a wiki default to the old view for guest readers? [06:58:06] As in without logging in [06:58:32] Also to default from the new mobile view to the old webpage view* [07:15:18] [1/3] old view? you mean like old Wikipedia look? this is skin, it's called Vector (legacy) [07:15:18] [2/3] if skin changes for you on login then you probably set it up as personal user preference and not default wiki skin in settings [07:15:18] [3/3] as for mobile mode you can disable it all together, extension is called MobileFrontend [07:18:53] [1/2] Yeah old as in this view, I forgot how wikipedia looked back then [07:18:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371386132587352064/00fc2ef6872bbccbd0187d6dd1bad71b.png?ex=6822f25d&is=6821a0dd&hm=73ead87111855c76da2cfebf3aaca52e97d7cf85ed2c2e5cbb04f564ceb3f6e3& [07:19:05] [1/2] Here's the current new version [07:19:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371386181857579038/d926dc3c75f94276e285e356bc00c2fd.png?ex=6822f268&is=6821a0e8&hm=093f5c1b43ab05477c75f034b8ddceb5053c3cb056a8e03e00b399130fd20052& [07:23:57] are you on tablet? [07:24:16] it's the same skin but elements seemingly missing [07:24:22] please link the wiki [07:25:04] https://rebalancetf.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [07:25:24] I'm on PC rn, the second screenshot was me taking a screenshot after logging off my account [07:26:27] ah my bad [07:26:31] hm [07:28:20] cache issue, it's old vector in logged out for me [07:28:28] i purged it on main page at least [07:28:53] Purge button or `?action=purge` in URL [07:31:39] Lemme try [07:32:49] Oh nice it did work, tyvm good sir 🙏 [07:34:58] nvm [07:35:04] cache is a pesky thing [09:32:53] Sometimes when I'm board I'll go on the approved queue and check out how my "neighbor wikis" are doing (wikis requested and approved around the same time as mine), and so far every single one I have checked has inactivity notices—with several having 0 edits. 😭 [09:41:09] sadly a very common thing [09:41:46] even on fandom wikis w/ no edits since creation get deleted [09:42:08] idk at what timeframe tho [11:57:26] Oh yeah wiki stuff is like one of those things where it sounds really cool on paper [11:57:55] But after a week is where someone's resolve gets tested on whether they plan to make something out of it or if they just lost interest [13:42:38] thats good to know [13:44:13] I've been managing our wiki for 10 years while being the games dev the wiki is based on, so I think that counts for something haha. [14:40:47] [1/2] We are the Bureaucrat's of the wiki, but we can't seem to enable cargo for some reason for insufficient permissions? This is something we require on the Galaxypedia for it to function properly. @zppix [14:40:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371497338865975398/perms_fail.PNG?ex=682359ee&is=6822086e&hm=8b6f035dbdfe50deedf757cf41ee04d21e276d0beb31f245f24ecdf06d20f454& [14:41:28] we also need Replace Text too [14:41:30] Cargo is a restricted extension [14:41:35] [[SR/RC]] [14:41:44] Wiki bot [14:41:46]

[14:41:49] cargo proved to be a bit risky extension so enabling is limited, need to request at [[SR/RC]] [14:41:49] Thank you [14:41:49]

[14:42:16] okay thank you, because its something we require for our wiki to function properly [14:42:26] what about Replace Text? [14:42:57] i assume same request venue but unsure about reasons [14:43:14] alright [14:56:11] [1/2] Another issue we discovered. Uploading our logo becomes scuffed compared to normal. We believe this is due to which svg render's the backend uses. @pixldev [14:56:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371501216894287973/CleanShot_2025-05-12_at_10.png?ex=68235d8b&is=68220c0b&hm=f338184ffe56d2bf8c25890a2d43d7e6d1f37dd2400b420fd3577f81fa2ba198& [14:58:00] Seems that the javascripSliceshow extension is failing to deploy https://dpaste.com/8LTBJ85KA.txt is there some alternative or something to make it work? [14:59:45] Which wiki Kreyren is this on? [15:00:24] zppix, self-hosted mediawiki on hackerspace's server assumed reproducible on any up-to-date mediawiki [15:00:38] We dont provide MediaWiki support here [15:00:46] #mediawiki is your best bet [15:00:53] it's miraheze-maintained extension [15:01:05] and seems to be extension-related bug [15:01:46] https://github.com/miraheze/JavascriptSlideshow [15:02:33] Let me look [15:02:38] thanks [15:02:51] Dpaste seems to be down so I cant see the error [15:03:24] Zppix, https://bpa.st/RI5A [15:03:54] ummm [15:04:21] is there a tutorial on how to edit wiki? [15:05:39] KREYREN: what MediaWiki version are you on? [15:06:17] Zppix, 1.42.6 [15:06:27] seems to work on 1.41? [15:06:40] maybe [15:07:05] preacher_vibe there is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing [15:07:14] The extension.json seems to state 1.43+ is required [15:08:57] Zppix, ahh i see thanks [15:09:05] nixos-stable is behind slightly [15:15:20] Anything on this guys? @nibblypup @zppix [15:18:08] [1/2] someone that knows the answer will respond when they can. [15:18:08] [2/2] This isn’t something I know a definite answer to me, it looks like its more than likely an image issue rather than a render issue but i dont know [15:18:55] alright thanks [15:20:05] its def a renderer issue, we solved it by changing renderers on our original site. [15:22:45] is it possible for us to be given imagemagick svg renderer instead of librsvg? [15:33:15] I believe you can change that in ManageWiki [15:33:50] or maybe not [15:36:46] I thought so too, but I cant find it anywhere [15:37:25] I'm thinking of the native SVG rendering feature [15:37:49] $wgSVGNativeRendering is enabled so I'd assume that MediaWiki shouldn't be rendering SVGs anymore [15:42:51] There's an open bug [15:44:10] [1/7] just click the edit button [15:44:10] [2/7] if it's visual editor it should be easy [15:44:11] [3/7] if it's source editor - this is much better than visual, and easy to grasp, like discord formatting [15:44:11] [4/7] check these links bot will post under my message, for starters [15:44:11] [5/7] [[mw:Help:Formatting]] [15:44:12] [6/7] [[mw:Help:Link]] [15:44:12] [7/7] [[mw:Help:Images]] [15:44:12]

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[3/3] [15:46:12] [1/2] mediawiki.org is the main place w/ help, the general MediaWiki (engine) things [15:46:12] [2/2] Wikipedia, Fandom, Miraheze, wiki.gg - they are all MediaWiki [17:28:57] I’ve started making use of categories finally and it’s been pretty fun, albeit a tad repetitive to set them all up. [17:29:26] Once they’re all done it’ll be very satisfying though. [17:35:45] i abuse "auto category" (attaching to templates) [17:53:04] Alas, many of my pages don’t have/need templates—and the templates I do haven’t are specialized enough for the categorization I’m aiming for. [17:53:31] Though I can think of a few instances where auto category may be useful… [17:58:53] no infoboxes? [17:59:59] our wiki's categories are almost exclusively from templates [18:07:49] I'm looking for ✨inspiration✨ to adjust the appearance of the vector skin via CSS. Do you know Wikis to recommend? [18:15:38] my vector mods are rather modest [18:16:09] however i like timeless modded into vector like layout [18:19:01] I'm open for inspiration! I'm currently using the newer vector. Can I have a look on your wiki? [18:26:35] [1/2] i avoid vector 2022, and set old vector as an option rather than default skin [18:26:36] [2/2] [18:29:24] That's clever. I was thinking about the same because it's much easier to work with. I just need some modifications to make it look more modern. Yours looks veeery nice 🤩 and not a little bit old fashioned. I'll see if I can work with that [21:40:07] [1/3] Is there a way to change it so that a template which contains an image does not display said image when you search for a page that contains it? Ex: this page has a template at its start that contains an image (as part of the template). It is superseding other images on the page and showing up in page previews. [21:40:07] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371602868657848413/Screenshot_2025-05-12_143844.png?ex=6823bc37&is=68226ab7&hm=997cec8fc926648e90e5441e4aedccb5126a60fe23af275af8d206ef03c59227& [21:40:08] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1371602868918030376/Screenshot_2025-05-12_143850.png?ex=6823bc37&is=68226ab7&hm=d914aea303a3f0ce8999cd6a962578e9921b2430aee95a83e909697a46d38830& [22:58:12] yes, add `|class=notpageimage` to the image in the template