[00:43:40] You may need to reach out to a fandom functionary to get them generated. [00:44:02] I did during my emigration, anyway [00:44:41] I got admin on the wiki and request a generation, hopefully that works, thanks tho [01:35:28] I wonder why this [wiki](https://fnafmw.miraheze.org/Balloon_Boy_(BB))'s theme randomly become flashbang every time you reload it/go to a new page [01:36:51] fnaf [01:55:01] Their main stylesheet is not render blocking. [01:55:53] [1/2] Only half of it seems to render too [01:55:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400658262323495014/IMG_6892.png?ex=688d7028&is=688c1ea8&hm=bed96b42fa57c0a0e3ebcb822bbe384e5252a3e35ab21bde12792c686e4f82a9& [01:56:01] Since the AI-wiki-reviewer RfC passed six months ago, has there been any progress on switching from GPT-4 to a Miraheze in-house model? [01:56:02] I'm stupid so could you tell me what that means [01:58:26] Still very much planned and soon also. Of course it depends on technical obstacles for when we manage it also. But there active plans to do this and very hopefully begin a lot of it this next month. [01:59:29] There's also the very silly practicalities too, like "how do you safely mount the very heat-making cards in a physically and thermally safe way" [01:59:55] Rented server racks: they only have so much space to give. [02:01:11] server to oven conversion [02:02:48] some of their css is taken from the pressure wiki, and i dont see any attribution 💔 [02:04:00] [1/2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Render_blocking [02:04:00] [2/2] Essentially you want the css to be render blocking so that the user doesn’t see the page until the css is loaded, otherwise the page’s look will be drastically changed when the style sheet comes. [02:09:36] Hello there. I had a question. There's another Wiki farm I've been on that now has abti-AI systems in place to protect again AI scrapping. Does Miraheze have one? Now my wiki is set to private, but I'm sure regardless there's some real worries about AI. [02:14:59] afaik we block AI scrapers through Cloudflare [02:15:45] and we ourselves don't do anything with your data [02:52:30] guys can we have dynamic output in miraheze [02:52:38] Unlike f*ndom, miraheze won't do anything with your data or whatever [03:03:58] @pskyechology How does blocking the scrapers with Cloudflare work. Sounds interesting. [03:07:28] What do you mean by dynamic input? [03:09:31] like you can input stuff in and there it gives an answer [03:10:52] Possible with JavaScript (well, anything you can do on a regular website can be done on MH with js except for a few things restricted by the CSP) [03:11:07] ohh [03:35:19] https://developers.cloudflare.com/ai-audit/ [03:41:52] @pskyechology So it blocks them from looking at anyone's wikis. [03:45:16] Is there an extension that adds little guide to the top of the talk pages [03:45:32] Nobody signs their posts [03:50:03] If you use DiscussionTools it should automatically sign your posts [03:50:40] [1/2] In general you can edit MediaWiki:Editnotice and MediaWiki:Talkpagetext [03:50:40] [2/2] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Edit_notice [03:57:54] Sounds like what I need [04:02:55] DiscussionTools is an extension that you enable on ManageWiki [04:03:11] Yes I did that [04:17:39] Then as long as anybody uses the button "Add a new post" (NOT Edit/Edit Source) DiscussionTools will always sign your posts automatically [05:38:16] [1/2] Not precisely. We don't explicitly ban all scrapes and that's a unique challenge itself. [05:38:16] [2/2] I recommend you create a #support thread so the relevant tech team members can give you a more thorough answer when they're online. [05:51:00] Okay. [10:05:02] Hi I made an card for my community's wiki inside vscode but for some reason it's not rendering as expected 😢 [13:20:15] [1/2] how would i properly enable using external images in my miraheze wiki? i enabled wgAllowExternalImages but trying to link to an image causes this CSP error: [13:20:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400830492038791258/image.png?ex=688e108f&is=688cbf0f&hm=5e4ebe9534ce20b1fa939aa773f3bd8336e816ef196e2126e8e4dffe153c108a& [13:24:07] the domain needs to be added to the CSP, which needs a review by tech [13:27:13] ah, how can i contact the correct staff? a steward request? [13:28:49] [Bruh, my wiki request was declined](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/63537) [13:35:25] vanity wiki moment [13:35:32] [[Content Policy]] [13:35:33]

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[13:36:19] Thanks. [13:43:30] i submitted a request [13:46:41] Isn't there many personal wikis in Miraheze? [13:55:35] word building and oc wikis are a thing [13:56:21] not personal/vanity/"all about myself" [14:08:10] Well, I only had decided to not use FANDOM because it doesn't allow personal wikis. Didn't knew Miraheze had this policy [14:08:30] <90gq29> Is there a way to force a specific page to be wide with the citizen theme? [14:09:58] NOTOC perhaps? [14:10:42] Self hosting ? [14:12:02] If you don't mind me asking, why choose to make a wiki instead of Wordpress if you're building a personal website for branding? [14:17:05] It would be too costly to make a website [14:18:29] MediaWIki and WordPress's self hosy choices are both free - but hard part would be finding a server unless you use your own hardware [14:18:42] Tbh there's plenty of cheap or even free hosting options if all you want is to host a website for branding (and so don't need a frontend) [14:19:24] You could even host it on GitHub pages for free if you want [14:20:49] Oh, okay [14:21:09] doesn't wordpress offer hosting too [14:21:25] https://wordpress.com/ - does hosting [14:22:07] neocities [14:22:16] Blast from the past [14:22:35] I mean, I kinda like some of those neat neocities sites [14:22:59] People can do some really neat things with them! I use wordpress myself but I do have a neocities scratchpad somewhere lol [14:23:02] So, my portfolio will be in a website, then I'll have to make my worldbuilding wiki on Miraheze. Since Semapedia is cancelled, it will be called "OganessonWiki" for the Oganessonverse [14:23:56] So, I'll have to spend time coding in Github with my website portfolio [14:24:11] dude, do you really want MediaWioi for a portfolio? [14:24:48] No [14:25:13] then you don't need to consider wiki format all together [14:26:06] world building means fictional stuff [14:26:38] creating a world, events in it, planning for future book/game/etc thing even [14:27:08] tabletop wikis are somewhere here too [14:27:24] My official website is not related to OganessonWiki, by the way. [14:37:49] You can host a worldbuilding project on a WordPress site, a Tumblr blog, or even a static site such as Github pages or Neocities [14:37:49] It will include social links, blogs/announcements, glossary and event timeline [14:38:36] And well, a static site works for a portfolo, such as Github pages, Neocities or Google sites [14:38:41] [1/3] - I don't know about WordPress [14:38:41] [2/3] - Tumblr has few options [14:38:42] [3/3] - How am I supposed to code animations dynamicaly in GitHub? [14:38:57] Hey everyone, where can I reach out to avaible volunteers for review? (For the wiki request "63431") [14:38:59] Wordpress is basicly drag and drop afiak [14:39:27] I want more customization like dynamically change it [14:43:01] <_arawynn> WorldAnvil is pretty good for worldbuilding too [14:45:54] [1/3] It goes like this: [14:45:54] [2/3] - Official Semaphore Website (mariofan171.github.com) [14:45:55] [3/3] - OganessonWiki, Worldbuilding Wiki (og118.miraheze.org) [14:48:24] You can do anything permissible by CSS and JS (including making CSS animations) on GitHub pages [14:48:59] Like, also a responsive page? [14:49:10] I'll even wager that you'll have more freedom to do styling / layout design on GitHub pages than on MediaWiki / Miraheze [14:51:08] Yes, but everything is web dev territory. [14:52:20] I.e. customization is possible, but you have to actually dig into the know-how to be able to do it [14:52:56] So this is why I'm learning Web Dev [14:52:58] But if you do have the know-how then GitHub pages is more flexible / easier to use than MediaWiki [14:54:45] [1/5] Yes, the website will include: [14:54:45] [2/5] - A Timeline [14:54:46] [3/5] - Central Link to my Socials [14:54:46] [4/5] - Introduction to myself [14:54:46] [5/5] - Branding Museum [14:55:32] And yes, Lua can be used in a website [15:16:43] If your request was denied by the AI, a wiki creator volunteer will get to it, when the get to it in the queue, "reaching out" is not gonna make it any faster [15:29:03] For the Vector-2022 skin, how do I set the menu pinning keys as [described in the documentation]()? I don't see options for those in the ManageWiki settings of MH [15:30:38] thanks for reminding me to do that [15:40:47] [1/3] question: how does one use a font from a file? [15:40:48] [2/3] font-face clearly doesnt do the job (its all the default serif font now) [15:40:48] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400865858049544212/image.png?ex=688e317f&is=688cdfff&hm=f7746650e04976b46c936aca438850eee34f2cabfd674c45a4a53fd3957412f4& [15:41:11] shouldn't it be woff format? [15:41:49] also you apply font-family to style/class/id correctly? [15:41:54] [1/2] can only get the font file as ttf [15:41:54] [2/2] can a non ttf file get uploaded to the wiki though? [15:44:20] [1/2] is this the right way? [15:44:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400866748156219473/image.png?ex=688e3253&is=688ce0d3&hm=77393e502f01d2aef6f6f643302e69cba8c4f4df45c00a36c1b4b2949b7c5287& [15:44:51] [1/2] there are online font converters [15:44:52] [2/2] also bear in mind uploaded font should not be pirated [15:46:32] gonna try to upload the result of a converter to file garden then i guess [15:51:56] [1/4] uhhh [15:51:57] [2/4] the warning is still showing and the font is still not showing [15:51:57] [3/4] what do i do? [15:51:57] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400868661325201459/image.png?ex=688e341b&is=688ce29b&hm=3d3dba7f37f55c64c71fcf7983d993f832cebc053cd92177b2d1a7779d8f8e62& [16:30:10] [1/3] Sorry to start an old topic back up again, but I want to clear some things up: [16:30:10] [2/3] I (NoneOfYourBusiness) was the one who founded that wiki, mainly to archive content and create character pages that wouldn't be allowed on the regular Drawn Feet Wiki. The characters highlighted as being "underage" (Mikey the Orange Bird, Sierra the Purple Dog, etc.) were actually OCs created by Trevor Charles when he was a teenager, and he confirmed th [16:30:11] [3/3] at the characters are ageless. Most of Trevor's art is considered lost media now (and it's better off staying that way, as per his wishes). [16:41:48] I think it unwise to randomly bring up topics from roughly 2 and a half years ago [16:47:32] [1/3] decided to check whats being loaded [16:47:32] [2/3] thats something! [16:47:32] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400882654311878676/image.png?ex=688e4123&is=688cefa3&hm=3cbe4236a8c08a03f075c9868b2bd26e8c6942f3d410a6a1166a820aa5fff9b4& [16:47:39] looks like file garden aint it for this [16:49:47] it's prolly blocked by [Content Security Policy]() [16:50:32] [1/14] Only fonts from the following domains can be loaded remotely: [16:50:32] [2/14] ``` [16:50:32] [3/14] - '*.miraheze.org' [16:50:32] [4/14] - '*.mirabeta.org' [16:50:33] [5/14] - '*.wikitide.org' [16:50:33] [6/14] - '*.wikitide.net' [16:50:33] [7/14] - 'fonts.gstatic.com' [16:50:34] [8/14] - 'fonts.googleapis.com' [16:50:34] [9/14] - 'cdnjs.cloudflare.com' [16:50:34] [10/14] - 'cdn.jsdelivr.net' [16:50:35] [11/14] - 'fastly.jsdelivr.net' [16:50:35] [12/14] - 'db.onlinewebfonts.com' [16:50:35] [13/14] - 'upload.wikimedia.org' [16:50:36] [14/14] ``` [16:50:43] Ref: [16:50:43] [1/2] i see [16:50:44] [2/2] asking the wiki's owner to allow the other font types then [16:52:20] Yes, the permitted file types can be seen (and expanded) through the additional settings section of the wiki by anyone with bureaucrat permissions [17:05:13] [1/3] ok that worked! thanks you guys! [17:05:13] [2/3] ...though the font itself is... yowch, gotta find something better [17:05:14] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400887105713864795/image.png?ex=688e4549&is=688cf3c9&hm=2260a8b39ad77b4e452647492f2cd96e86ab117335e153514a76ad193564b347& [17:05:54] quirky fonts are better reserved for headers and titles [17:06:30] were constantly bouncing around fonts because good pixel fonts are hard to spot [17:06:59] better stick to default for plain text [17:07:12] for sake of accessibility [17:08:15] [1/2] its mainly my fault here- [17:08:15] [2/2] i just think its better to have a consistent style throughout the whole wiki [17:17:09] how do i get shard of the universe [17:21:01] Not sure if this means that you've got to add them to the settings page, but I'd also love to be able to set the dark mode default flag for Vector-2022! 👀 (Lmk if I should submit an official ticket or request for it if there's not already a way to enable these!) [17:35:28] they're all handled through $wgDefaultUserOptions, so once I add that, it'll cover everything [18:38:49] that page exists? [18:39:03] The CSP gets touched all the time, it is probably out of date btw [18:39:22] although I'd say it's accurate for font-src [18:39:30] Hmmm, I wonder if there's a fancy way (probably JS) to read current state onto the page... [18:40:17] There is of course. With a few hours with Python and our dear [[User:BeeBot]] anyone could do it [18:40:18]

[18:40:27] Yeehaw, beebot rides again. [18:40:30] You’d need to use a bot more than likely but you could probably use a bot to parse the CSP file in puppet to then output it to a wikipage [18:40:47] In Bee Bot We Trust [18:41:04] Maybe I'll look at that once I'm out of work crunch, I've been doing a LOT in python lately, so am probably better equipped than I was a few months ago. [18:41:08] It says to contact Alex still 😂 [18:41:15] eeeeeerm [18:41:22] Something tells me that person won't be responding any time soon [18:41:30] eniee meine minee moo [18:41:33] Might be a few hundred or thousand minutes [18:41:48] catch a tech member to be held responsible for the bot by their pinke toe [18:45:40] @pixldev #minor-announcements it's the July issue that was published [18:45:53] time travel [18:46:04] eeeeeerm typi [18:46:14] You just beat me too it 😄 [18:46:24] BIG typo [18:46:26] fixed :sweats: [18:46:35] it was 6 letters [18:48:50] 31 days difference [18:49:07] hish [18:51:35] [1/2] -why isnt my dark theme working? [18:51:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1400913873082781756/image.png?ex=688e5e37&is=688d0cb7&hm=edfcd77a8a1d33d9dd226e305545654382da553715e3188ad28b4aedeb028e3f& [18:52:18] [1/3] uh [18:52:19] [2/3] update [18:52:19] [3/3] it suddenly started working nvm lol [18:52:39] You might have to "hard refresh" [18:52:59] Press CTRL and F5 at the same time [18:53:17]