[01:18:33] @pskyechology is it one wiki request per week? [01:19:08] We currently use a different strategy: master support latest stable (instead of development) MediaWiki minor version (currently 1.44.x). You may check the required MediaWiki version in skin.json for the information. [01:20:41] Thats suboptimal because right now we can either use the release branches for each MW version or one branch for all MW versions [01:20:41] https://github.com/lakejason0/mediawiki-skins-Lakeus/issues/37 [01:21:08] Oh. [01:21:18] Does REL1_43 work with MW 1.44? [01:21:36] Since the class aliases were already deprecated, just not removed in 1.43 [01:21:54] Of course. [01:22:07] But we could branch REL1_44. [01:22:10] correction, it seems to be 3 days https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/main/LocalSettings.php#L5097 [01:23:21] That would be good [01:23:27] Then we could switch to the release branches [01:23:47] lemme see [01:24:02] i wanna have the CW config reflect the default and ill update the meta message as needed [01:24:03] [1/2] yall i may be a little dumb, but where exactly is this local settings file in my mediawiki? im tryna set up the discordnotifications extension but its my first time with this smart techy stuff [01:24:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401737415789514823/image.png?ex=68915d32&is=68900bb2&hm=7a2d5fd2bc5a76830913de609ef6e55d011c5664d1529081e48d9d0052bbc438& [01:24:18] You can't access it directly on Miraheze ussually [01:24:25] you set settings via [[ManageWiki]] [01:24:26]

[01:24:47] if you need a new setting added to ManageWiki or something isn't compatible and must be in LS.php, we can do it [01:25:01] (or LW.php if it's really cool) [01:25:03] im gonna be honest im so lost rn LOL [01:26:06] We have a bit of software called ManageWiki that provides a nice user-friendly interface to do a lot of enabling and configuring of extensions. [01:26:16] This is what you do instead of manually updating localSettings.php [01:26:38] you only need to an additional webhook url [01:27:15] unless you're not a miraheze user, but are using our extension [01:27:29] OH i am a mira user, im just really REALLY braindead [01:27:38] Done. [01:27:40] no worries, me too [01:27:40] can you guys tell its my first time reading anything above a 2nd grade level [01:27:43] we all are [01:27:49] If your wiki is hosted by Miraheze, you can find this under the option labeled as "manage this wiki's additional settings", or by navigating to Special:ManageWiki/settings on your wiki [01:28:07] comes with a search bar :3 [01:28:17] Switch over to the Notifications tab of that screen to see the discord-related settings, or yes, use the search bar as there's a LOT in there. [01:28:54] Thanks, I'll change the branches in mediawiki-repos tomorrow [01:28:57] OHHH i was lookin in the wrong parts of managewiki [01:29:09] alr ty yall ill come back if i have another brainfart 🙀 [01:29:22] Glad to be of help, happy wiki-ing to you. [01:29:51] [1/9] default is ```php [01:29:52] [2/9] "RateLimits": { [01:29:52] [3/9] "requestwiki": { [01:29:52] [4/9] "user": [ [01:29:53] [5/9] 5, [01:29:53] [6/9] 60 [01:29:53] [7/9] ] [01:29:53] [8/9] } [01:29:54] [9/9] },```? [01:30:00] so [01:30:08] 5 in 60 seconds.... [01:30:12] UUUUUUGH [01:30:20] so that message is correct for the default [01:30:52] :) [01:31:30] so now what [01:31:39] Man the implementation of that searchbar in managewiki was an absolute gamechanger. Made it SO much easier to find what you were looking for xD [01:31:54] if you have javascript disabled, you can ctrl+f as well x3 [01:31:55] Lawd praise @cosmicalpha [01:33:52] you could make the message take arguments, i'd yoink something from DiscordNotifications [01:35:11] a la https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/main/LocalSettings.php#L5097 [01:36:17] well this is a mw core notif [01:36:53] you don't have to use that [01:37:16] what did you do to display a different message then, im curious [01:44:41] hm? [01:45:23] lmao i just noticed i forgot to copy the link [01:47:27] [1/2] in here: https://github.com/miraheze/CreateWiki/blob/a0b9233b8634a0ec47366c84e5432ecd6c2f9f03/includes/RequestWiki/Specials/SpecialRequestWiki.php#L188 [01:47:27] [2/2] you can use literally any message, you don't have to use `actionthrottledtext` [01:47:59] you could use `createwiki-throttled` for example, and define it in i18n [01:48:33] or going by already existing messages i think i'd go with `createwiki-error-throttled` [01:48:45] [1/2] that was the plan already [01:48:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401743631337000990/Screenshot_20250803_214829.png?ex=689162fc&is=6890117c&hm=f018c06936fc5cdc40b2e0615e90004c93ba8cbd45b02d36ae73e6d9175d4e1f& [01:49:51] excellent, and dont forget qqq.json [01:50:36] then it has to be translated on CW itself using that message means its already much more localized and reduces the messages we need which we should have the minimum for. [01:51:17] for the record im not fully against changing it thats just why it was done like that to begin with. [01:52:08] yeea yeah [01:52:23] ? [01:52:28] i wonder if we could do some tomfoolery to use actionthrottledtext by default but use something else when it is defined [01:52:38] you can [01:52:54] i wish pix a very nice adventure [01:53:22] unless CA feels like telling the answer immediately [01:53:43] :steamhappy: [01:53:49] i aint sleepin tonight [01:54:13] but for now i watch a 40 YO movie [01:54:33] `!$this->msg( 'othermessage')->isDisabled()` [01:55:05] why tf do messages have a disabled attr [01:55:11] they dont [01:55:34] that means message != false message != empty string and message != - (minus) [01:55:44] so basically it exists and is set. [01:56:15] i think skye meant if the setting isnt the default change the message [01:56:36] the current core message works assuming the default config (5 in 60s) [01:56:41] but for prod config [01:56:43] not so much [01:57:13] in that case it should prob say like try again in 1 week [01:57:50] could do that too [01:58:34] using the calc of the time or smt [01:58:42] [1/2] but the message is "As an anti-abuse measure, you are limited from performing this action too many times in a short space of time, and you have exceeded this limit. [01:58:43] [2/2] Please try again in a few minutes." thats pretty generic and fits regardless of what is configured... mentioning exact time period invites its own issues also. [01:59:14] its the few minutes thats an issue when they should wait a week [02:00:56] I believe this is now done? [02:02:18] quite honestly that should be reported upstream and hopefully changed there a lot of things reliant on the config use that message. [02:04:57] Phab task? [02:06:18] maybe if there isnt one. that message is not even consistent like how login throttle give $1 vars etc... even apierror-ratelimited is more generic. [02:08:19] hm? [02:08:26] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187283 [02:08:35] there is one...from 2018...lol [02:09:43] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/785150 exists too lol [02:11:03] uh [02:12:05] i aint dealing with this, lets just make a new message [02:12:28] for not default cpnfig [02:12:33] what if like [02:12:38] use a message that [02:12:43] we dont define [02:12:49] for not default configs [02:13:03] I might try and take that core patch over later and redo it. I'd prefer it be in core. But for now I guess we can add it to CW and remove later. [02:13:06] and leave it to local admins to set :steamhappy: [02:14:35] Could just add an override in MirahezeMagic for actionthrottledtext to say try again later instead of in a few minutes lol the way rate limits work adding parameters to tell exact time is actually pretty tricky. [02:16:09] we could [02:16:22] wanna do that? [02:16:25] actually [02:16:46] no thats a pointless idea [02:17:13] I'd rather have it say week but thats still better [02:17:49] A week is still config dependent [02:18:01] exactly [02:18:05] if config changes then message would need updated etc... also [02:18:23] id rather be able to have a sensible default and also we can update the message on wiki [02:19:10] I guess [02:19:26] lol why is this so complicated. Why cant the message just say based on config itself... [02:19:51] would make it so much essier if it did lol [02:19:51] thats i proposed kinda [02:20:03] I mean in core lol [02:20:20] [1/2] debt [02:20:20] [2/2] someone decided not doing that was easier [02:20:24] can we cacl how many days from seconds [02:20:34] mediawiki is american [02:20:40] LMAO [02:21:03] yeah /86400 [02:22:26] i mean to display, and dust to minutes days etc [03:41:16] [1/2] What's the branch? [03:41:16] [2/2] idk about your topic [03:52:47] [1/2] Why the icon size becomes weird when I go to the setting page [03:52:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401774848090308789/IMG_20250804_115152.jpg?ex=6891800f&is=68902e8f&hm=cce6ab31d9c69f8d13a66b464eed0ca1912e35be5f76b7a61593846e209519e1& [03:55:17] Special:Preferences does not load any CSS you've written on MediaWiki:Common.css [04:14:47] @posix_memalign yo, would you be able to file an Request for permissions (bot) so a Steward can add the bot bit to User:PetraMagnaBot on Meta? [04:21:33] Sure, though I'm not sure if it's necessary since the bot only makes an edit or two per day for now. I also thought of requesting `autopatrolled` so that Rodejong doesn't have to mark it as patrolled every day. [04:23:38] If bot doesn't include that, I'll grant ap [04:24:41] How can I fix it? [04:43:07] How many people use new skin Lakeus? [04:43:19] [1/3] Resize your logo to 135x135px [04:43:19] [2/3] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgLogo [04:43:19] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401787560488996924/Screenshot_2025_0804_114228.png?ex=68918be6&is=68903a66&hm=f97dda2305efa6ecc6fbb9125daee4407a9b77f1b08993f4b075d50bc2206c8d& [04:47:00] So is it the case that I cannot get replaceText on a new wiki? [04:47:09] you can [04:47:39] Oh [04:48:34] thanks [08:07:43] [Maybe I should have marked the wiki as private](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/63537#mw-section-comments) [08:08:14] How is this the case? Because it seems like that private wikis are counted as vanity wikis. [08:16:38] private or not, it doesn't matter - you follow platform's rules regardless [08:16:57] we discussed that just yesterday w/ another wiki, actually [08:17:51] You're here buddy???? [08:18:36] No Polcompball drama here. This is not a Polcompball Wiki. [08:18:51] I know I know [08:18:55] Just in case you're wondery [08:19:01] I tried to report polcompball [08:19:04] NEVER TELL ANYONE [08:19:12] I can't do the Captcha [08:20:50] I'm now demotivated bruh, and what's keeping me onto making a website is I have to bang my head so hard because I'm not that good in JavaScript [08:23:16] again, you should have researched in means first before making final plans [08:24:03] <_fizban> [1/4] if anyone has time [08:24:03] <_fizban> [2/4] I am trying to update a normal svg image and for some reason it keep saying: [08:24:04] <_fizban> [3/4] The XML in the uploaded file could not be parsed. [08:24:04] <_fizban> [4/4] this never happened to me [08:24:40] <_fizban> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401843268106321951/Senza_titolo_603_20250804101729.svg?ex=6891bfc8&is=68906e48&hm=fd003f352b7cd67efb780411938c9a225babc8b06b669ed4f37916ceea28dd30& [08:25:06] did you edited the old image? can you try to upload it as new file? [08:25:54] <_fizban> I am uploading this ex novo, I am trying to update my wiki and change png images with svg versions [08:26:25] but you said update normal svg image [08:27:04] <_fizban> ah my bad I meant upload, sorry... lapsus [08:28:26] hmm [08:28:32] <_fizban> it's because originally I intended to just update but you can't do that if you change format apparently, my brain must have defaulted to that original linr [08:28:39] I checked the Global Content Policy, but I didn't see a policy on vanity pages anywhere [08:29:22] yeah format must be the same when updating a file [08:30:01] did you created svg by yourself in some program, or got them ready from somewhere? [08:31:11] was this only happened on that special page? or other type of namespace pages may had the same case as well [08:31:34] how do i make my text extract only one line! [08:32:42] user preferences and login/registration special pages [08:32:55] disables all custom css and js [08:33:13] <_fizban, replying to _fizban> [1/2] I hoped this would be an easily resolvable thig [08:33:13] <_fizban, replying to _fizban> [2/2] Maybe I should make it a thread on support [08:33:46] Claire, you here? [08:33:54] yeah [08:33:56] can you help w/ svg's? [08:33:59] sure [08:34:24] <_fizban> The weird thing is that it happened ONLY for this particular file, none of the other new svg versions of the images I was uploading to update the wiki [08:34:43] i would like to say that my computer hates you /h [08:34:58] /lh [08:35:13] Weirdly enough CSS loaded through ThemeToggle is loaded onto Preferences as well, and I'm not even sure if that's intended [08:35:23] ^ here's file [08:35:33] <_fizban> I even tried to do it all from scratch again, go back to the drawing app, recreate the png, go to the other drawing app, convert to svg, upload again [08:35:36] <_fizban> Same result [08:36:00] to verify, that is an svg? [08:36:21] [1/2] interesting :ThinkerMH: [08:36:21] [2/2] but also, Cosmos styling settings also work in there, assume because they in localsettings [08:37:02] <_fizban> Svg yes [08:37:46] there's a whole embedded png [08:37:55] the entire thing is a png ^^; [08:38:19] <_fizban> Wait... Maybe I messed up uploading [08:38:44] <_fizban> Either that or there's a whole different problem [08:38:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401846843046105188/1754296726932.png?ex=6891c31c&is=6890719c&hm=c349d24d9403aba0a52601a3210463dfa8bf16290fd248fbc3f2c3fa5ef3503c& [08:39:28] <_fizban> Yes it's that and I would desume it's the png version [08:39:37] that's the embedded png, yeah [08:39:57] <_fizban> Wait lemme go back to the laptop and try to see why it happened [08:40:00] [1/2] here's the svg without the embedded image [08:40:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1401847126786310184/1754296798650.svg?ex=6891c360&is=689071e0&hm=1af3073015d56998eb83c8031542d0204a00657ad5e6c9459763852011853591& [08:40:12] ah, png stuck inside svg? [08:40:16]