[17:57:24] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [4/13] > <format>'''{{{title}}}'''/format [17:57:24] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [5/13] > <default>'''{{PAGENAME}}'''/default [17:57:24] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [6/13] > /title [17:57:25] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [7/13] > <image source="image"/> [17:57:25] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [8/13] > <default>Placeholder.jpg/default [17:57:25] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [9/13] > <title source="usage"> [17:57:25] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [10/13] > <format>''{{{usage}}}/small''/format [17:57:26] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [11/13] > <default>''Kylie forgot to fill this in./small''/default [17:57:26] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [12/13] > /title [17:57:27] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> [13/13] > /infobox [17:58:38] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> this for a template? [17:58:46] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> Ah damn, figured it out I think [17:58:50] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> Gods I hate HTML [17:59:17] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> Yeah, sorry I should have specified [17:59:58] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> DIdn't realize the image source line was closing the tag. Deleted the `/` and added a normal closing tag after the `<default>` and it's fine [18:00:13] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to glitter_straitjacket> puts the HaTe in HTML. [18:32:28] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/2] oh man [18:32:28] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402358614236336200/image.png?ex=68939fbc&is=68924e3c&hm=eb2a9e31538b951c6e5bf8958d2b2e7e8e78acfeb601c43432bae4ddc3308c27& [18:33:18] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> See #announcements [18:36:13] <MirahezeRelay> <phantom_boi> [1/2] hey, if a wiki has this, could a different wiki steal its URL/name? me and another wiki were made at the same time but the other one has had literally nothing included in it and stayed unedited while ive been trying to build up the other one [18:36:13] <MirahezeRelay> <phantom_boi> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402359557371465929/image.png?ex=6893a09d&is=68924f1d&hm=6ced0e72fc339af20f12d21066e686fbc130834673606fec506e80801e202095& [18:38:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology, replying to phantom_boi> no, the wiki needs to be deleted first [18:38:59] <MirahezeRelay> <phantom_boi> ah [18:39:03] <MirahezeRelay> <phantom_boi> so i still got double the waiting time [18:43:17] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> How can I center text? [18:49:22] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> try <center>text/center [18:49:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> youuuuuu [18:50:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> make people use invalid tags [18:51:10] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> huh? [18:51:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it was at pix lol [18:51:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> browsers don't like <center> tags [18:54:12] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> so... what should I do? [18:54:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Uh [18:54:26] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> whoops [18:54:41] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> listen i dont do much editing legroom, sorry about that 😅 [18:55:03] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/2] it also keeps doing this for some reason, I didn't even do anything... [18:55:03] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402364294766657668/image.png?ex=6893a506&is=68925386&hm=f03c120bcc4493e81f705fc814d018993b59351c455a6f772eaada5032a5a687& [18:55:07] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> Miraheze hates me [18:55:08] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402364316383973608/image.gif?ex=6893a50b&is=6892538b&hm=d8322f0bc7faf8d8c8f9d017449badba80354d51aa5eef197593a8bc155576e7& [18:55:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> oh, do you have a tab at the beginning of the line? [18:55:32] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> this happens if you leave a space break in the beginning of a line [18:55:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] ` something` [18:55:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] instead of [18:55:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] `something` [18:56:31] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to pixldev> yeah but I removed it [18:56:47] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> I added some spaces [18:56:53] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> cuz I can't center it rn [18:57:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/4] unfortunately [18:57:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/4] `<div style="text-align: center;>your text here/div` [18:57:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [3/4] is more preferable [18:57:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [4/4] can be made into a template so less hassle [18:57:31] <MirahezeRelay> <cyberlights11_12_2006> i need a hand with user groups and im not sure where to go [18:57:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/2] this is not how wiki text works [18:57:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/2] have you checked those guides? [18:57:55] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/2] also, leaving some space is nice for me [18:57:55] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402365017369608192/image.png?ex=6893a5b2&is=68925432&hm=0ba4e339b713edf2e3c4068deea413bd6f029a55ec70a9d3096af6ca9419879f& [18:58:20] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I glimpsed over one of them, it's kinda late rn and I just want to prepare some small things [18:58:50] <MirahezeRelay> <cyberlights11_12_2006> trying to make it so anyone not logged in, or logged in but not given permission, has no greater authority than reading and looking around, but changing those permissions made it so noone at all can edit [18:59:24] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to cyberlights11_12_2006> you just wanted to make wiki private then? there's just flag for that [18:59:38] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ah my bad [18:59:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> i misread [19:00:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> check if administrator has edit rights? [19:00:30] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> man this is long [19:00:47] <MirahezeRelay> <cyberlights11_12_2006, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> they do, fair [19:01:01] <MirahezeRelay> <cyberlights11_12_2006> the role does at least [19:01:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/2] it depends where you want the text to be centered [19:01:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/2] for main page templates are usually made [19:01:25] <MirahezeRelay> <cyberlights11_12_2006> ive someone thats trying to edit and cant and they have administrator [19:01:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> templates are neat /totally not crazy about templates/ [19:01:48] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] well, it sorta works I guess [19:01:48] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402365994093117531/image.png?ex=6893a69b&is=6892551b&hm=438111c56cd5d87da417acd89e5dacc64e308e9c924ea6622419d92fdbcfc7d6& [19:01:53] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> but it continues to have these boxes [19:01:57] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> gotta get rid of those [19:02:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you are trying to make new line for one sentence? [19:02:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] i assume you did [19:02:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] `... for [19:02:53] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] fun ...` [19:02:53] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] ? [19:03:08] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> this is still hard to format [19:03:15] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> it works [19:03:25] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] try [19:03:25] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] `... for fun ...` [19:03:28] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> but I don't want the text to go bexond those lines at the top and bottom [19:03:45] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402366486521184357/image.png?ex=6893a711&is=68925591&hm=301400f959dd8e0cd08b2476ba8a07a46d44149c935bcf99f0dbd6677d4bf59e& [19:04:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> please try what i said [19:04:36] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> yes [19:04:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> but honestly - formatting is quite a beast, it will change depending on screen size roo, you can't control it much w/o going deeper into css [19:05:28] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> uhh [19:05:32] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> w/ ` `? [19:05:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i said ^ [19:06:03] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> I am not exactly sure what you assume I did though, Legroom [19:06:36] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> I don't know where exactly you want me to put the [19:07:09] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> between "for" and "fun", w/o space or line breaks [19:07:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> exactly what i typed [19:07:17] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> ok [19:07:39] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> sorry but it wasn't clear for me [19:07:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] im going by what the screenshot shows me, unfortunately [19:07:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] you can link the page in question after #verify tho [19:07:43] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> lemme try [19:08:30] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [1/2] better but it doesn't really align with the top and bottom rows rn [19:08:31] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402367683240136924/image.png?ex=6893a82e&is=689256ae&hm=ecf277f7a6f43646ea8c4cc66fbf88a184cacc6d0df6c5d5e0d34d51d5965fc5& [19:09:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to renjironeedsyourmoney> now you can try same in previous "block" you got here? [19:09:24] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> ok I verified [19:10:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ` ` creates simplest line break in web pages and it works in wiki text for such specific cases [19:10:55] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> https://ddconceptrework.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:11:05] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> link to the unfinished main page [19:11:19] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> I just wanted to get a bit of text setup before I go to bed [19:11:42] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> I suppose that I should continue tomorrow [19:12:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it's private, can't even view code, oh well [19:12:27] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> oh [19:12:43] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> what exactly will you do when you see it? [19:15:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> see why the formatting is botched [19:15:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> not sure if im going to now, i don't work w/ private wikis and don't make people go public [19:17:01] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> it's fine as long as I can make it private again [19:17:05] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> just, not for today [19:17:23] <MirahezeRelay> <renjironeedsyourmoney> idk about tomorrow but I do want to at least try Miraheze out and see if it works with what I have planned [19:18:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> again, i suggest to familiarize yourself w/ wiki text quirka [20:30:09] <MirahezeRelay> <misterwolf555> This server is for Hellmet right? [20:31:11] <MirahezeRelay> <raidarr> no [20:32:29] <MirahezeRelay> <abaddriverlol, replying to misterwolf555> I think there's a link to the discord of the Hellmet wiki in the wiki's sidebar [20:43:02] <MirahezeRelay> <glitter_straitjacket> Any images failing to load at the moment can be chalked up to the maintenance period, right? [20:43:44] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to glitter_straitjacket> Yup, probably [21:56:29] <MirahezeRelay> <azve> Will there be an announcement when images are back? [21:56:53] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> most likely [22:59:55] <MirahezeRelay> <lightning789> thought i broke something

[02:32:18] [1/2] every time i click an image, it opens up the file page instead of the media viewer thingie [02:32:18] [2/2] did i enable/disable something by accident? the multimedia viewer extension is enabled, and its enabled in my preferences. [02:52:31] Write `[[File:Your image.png|link=]]` so MediaWiki doesn't make your image into a clickable link [03:28:24] [1/3] hello! i'd like to use this script https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/OggPlayer on my wiki, but i'm not sure how to go about importing it /changing the dependencies on fandom's dev wiki (?) i already imported the I18n-js gadget, and i /think/ its the mw.hooks at the bottom of the .js file that are confusing me most/i'm not sure what to change them to since i dont completely understand what [03:28:24] [2/3] they do. i don't really have coding experience so id appreciate any help 😭 🙏 [03:28:24] [3/3] it seems like people have asked before although it doesn't seem like it's been resolved or ported to miraheze yet? (i strongly prefer the look of this audio player over timedmediahandler, which is why id like to try and figure it out 😔 ) [03:31:49] [1/2] to clarify, by "importing the I18n-js gadget" do you mean the gadget on Miraheze Dev wiki? [03:31:50] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/I18n-js [03:32:09] yeah!sorry for the confuision [03:36:25] I’d say you may just have better luck removing l18n than porting it [03:37:41] [1/20] As a general rule importing JS scripts from Fandom Dev wiki mean the following: [03:37:41] [2/20] 1) Removing `importArticles`. That's FANDOM platform only. [03:37:42] [3/20] 2) Importing I18n-js from MH Dev Wiki as a gadget. This is needed to load the messages from the internalization.json file. [03:37:42] [4/20] 3) Replacing this block of code: [03:37:42] [5/20] ```js [03:37:42] [6/20] mw.hook('dev.i18n').add(function(i18n) { [03:37:43] [7/20] i18n.loadMessages('OggPlayer').then(init); [03:37:43] [8/20] }); [03:37:43] [9/20] ``` [03:37:44] [10/20] With [03:37:44] [11/20] ```js [03:37:45] [12/20] mw.loader.using('ext.gadget.i18n-js', [03:37:45] [13/20] function () { [03:37:46] [14/20] window.dev.i18n.loadMessages('MediaWiki:Custom-OggPlayer/i18n.json', { apiEntrypoint: 'self' } ).done(init); [03:37:46] [15/20] }, [03:37:47] [16/20] function () { [03:37:47] [17/20] console.error('i18n-js not set'); [03:37:48] [18/20] } [03:37:48] [19/20] ); [03:37:49] [20/20] ``` [03:39:51] Love-hate relationship with the i18n-js Fandom script honestly. Like many of the Fandom Dev wiki scripts would work just fine if you remove `i18n.loadMessages()` and replace them with your own messages, but I feel like it's such a waste if the ported scripts wouldn't be able to make use of i18n. [03:40:38] And obviously `mw.message` is a thing [03:41:23] You should also make sure to import [MediaWiki:Custom-OggPlayer/i18n.json]() from Fandom Dev wiki into your wiki [03:42:23] The script i forker over on fandom still has remnants of i18n, but i never bothered to add the new messages to it lol [03:43:28] wait thank you so much for the help, I think I already did the 2nd thing (creating MediaWiki:Gadget-i18n-js.js right?) i didnt know about the importarticles so i just deleted it+replaced the code in question, and now the correct style shows up (rather than using the default ogg player) but the actual audio itself doesn't seem to play? 🤔 [03:43:50] it's why I ported i18n-js in the first place. so many scripts that depend on it. [03:44:16] mind sharing the wiki? [03:45:20] oh yeahsorry that woudl help huh https://aiyuverse.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [03:45:47] ive been testing it on my user page https://aiyuverse.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Zunjue [03:47:50] you haven't enabled Extension:Gadgets on ManageWiki yet, so your wiki haven't loaded i18n-js as a gadget [03:48:00] ohh :ICANT: [03:50:53] also please change `window.dev.i18n.loadMessages('MediaWiki:Custom-OggPlayer/i18n.json', { apiEntrypoint: 'self' } )` to `window.dev.i18n.loadMessages('MediaWiki:Custom-OggPlayer', { apiEntrypoint: 'self' } )` [03:53:08] i just changed both things although the audio still doesnt seem to be playing? [04:01:48] [1/2] it shows this, even though if I put just [[File:]] for it the actual file exists/is fine 🤔 [04:01:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402139501853147176/image.png?ex=6892d3ab&is=6891822b&hm=24a5ad3a46fea03ba9cbaba3cf62516f93ecf955b59e62f529d1719e6ab0fb15& [04:27:25] [1/2] is this part disallowing usage of files that aren't from the specified domains? although trying to change it didnt seem to do anything [04:27:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402145947106148392/image.png?ex=6892d9ac&is=6891882c&hm=80effb314810ed9a503d756f5a954ec1821b3907a1dc482140b7667654546b5a& [04:43:03] it shouldn't [04:43:39] as far as I can see, what's needed by the script are all working correctly (i18n included), but the script isn't working as it should, [04:44:05] so I'm trying to see what's so different between the FANDOM & MH platforms that may be causing this issue [04:44:35] ahh i see, strange [04:44:45] ok wait, hold on, you might be right [04:44:59] thank you so much for your help btw 😭 i poked at it for a little but im realizing i would have had no hope at understanding it on my own lol [05:08:14] [1/2] @ccxtwf i think it does work now? i guess it was an issue with the regex and also the validation for wikia, but the thing is now the [[File:file.ogg]] format doesnt work and it needs lije a data src=" " + direct link to the file on wikitide to work.(you can see it on my user page still)but it does like. work lol (???) might be related to the difference between fandom and miraheze, i [05:08:15] [2/2] guess ..? 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[05:11:05] what do i put in an infobox/styles.css to change the color of the text you type in? [05:15:29] 🤔 I'm digging into the example (LoL wiki) cited on the Fandom Dev wiki, and they're using a custom extension to render ``, so yes, I do suspect that the Fandom Dev wiki documentation is out-of-date. [05:19:21] Ah, I was looking at the LoL English wiki instead of the Polish wiki [05:19:55] ohh interesting?? if it helps i used to edit this wiki that also used it https://alchemystars.fandom.com/wiki/Vice/Dialogue although i dont remember installing any separate extensions [05:20:05] Polish LoL wiki was simply using `[[Media:{{{1}}}|►]]/span` [05:27:18] We should move this to a #support thread bcos this will take a while [05:28:14] oh shit yeah i cna make one, sorry for clogging general whoever reads this haha [05:41:42] [1/2] I made a 1-button audio player a while back (it can also take arbitrary form, though). Just haven't ported it to the dev wiki though I promised Rodejong I would do so... [05:41:42] [2/2] Example page: https://strinova.org/wiki/Michele/audio [05:49:09] Steward requests/Restricted changes is backlogged [05:49:24] @Stewards letting you know [05:53:14] [1/2] We work them when we can, all stewards have other obligations on and off platform. [05:53:14] [2/2] Usual time to complete is a week or less depending on urgency [05:55:59] ok [05:56:15] there's just a lot of requests there rn [07:23:59] I'll try to handle some later this week hopefully. Unfortunately I'm away for quite a few days [12:25:03] [1/2] how can you make media files appear on page like this? [12:25:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402266149827252284/bgEn5pr.png?ex=6893499e&is=6891f81e&hm=115e6b5e14f7e4505bc8828c6572ca98a026117053675f3d6c5bfa22607c7bd7& [12:25:28] my files are .ogg but only apepar as links to the file pages [12:30:24] enable the TimedMediaHandler extension [12:30:30] already done that [12:32:35] purge cache [12:32:46] yep still not working [12:32:50] unless I've made it wrong [12:59:50] I should be able to wipe out a good portion of the SR today [13:04:40] Link to wiki? [13:06:40] turns out it just needed time to work [13:26:59] Hello :) [13:27:12] Where can I find people that might be willing to help me out with learning Miraheze? [13:29:51] Uuuuh [13:29:53] Here [13:30:05] Just ask [13:30:23] I might recommend summarizing some of the chief questions as a thread in #support which would let multiple people reply to whichever are priority questions and flow from there [13:30:28] Yeah but I am a big newbie, I never really made a wiki. [13:30:42] I tried to use fandom but it feels extremely bloated and a friend recommened Miraheze [13:30:58] I got no experience though and things are a little complicated right now. [13:32:12] Do I have to put my questions in all at once? I would like to learn things one at a time honestly. I don't mind just using plain text on pages for now, just need to know how to link it all together. [13:32:21] Nah [13:32:38] You wanna know how to link pages? [13:32:47] it could start with a couple priority ones, no need for everything all in one go [13:33:02] but the logic is allowing people to filter in and tackle stuff, as opposed to waiting for someone to be fully available [13:33:03] We ain’t going anywhere [13:33:23] personally I'm knee deep in SR so not much more than snippets from me [13:34:12] Yessir [13:34:34] I got it don’t worry, and thanks for tackling that [13:34:41] Also, I've seen a bit of this css stuff... do I absolutely need that for a wiki? [13:34:47] Nah [13:34:54] That is good news. [13:34:55] CSS is for visual customization [13:35:04] Back when I managed a wiki, I avoided it as well [13:35:16] I kinda wanted to customize the UI [13:35:22] How far can I go with visuals, without messing with CSS? [13:35:24] But even now CSS scares me [13:35:32] Depends on the skin you use [13:35:40] Because right now, Miraheze is not that pretty and I would like to customize things if possible. [13:35:51] There’s a good amount of visual variation in skins [13:36:04] Citizen is a nice one [13:36:22] Cosmos I think has variables to customize colors without writing CSS [13:36:36] Are you using the pure text pages, or Visual Editor? [13:36:38] citizen is glitzed out by default [13:36:43] Can you give me some examples? The wiki that I am making is supposed to look similar to one on fandom. It has a background image with the UI being a dark red, semi-transparent overlay... well besides the text, images etc of course [13:36:48] cosmos does indeed allow customizing via managewiki [13:36:58] the one on fandom likely has custom css involved [13:37:11] If you want a similar format to FANDOM, Cosmos I think. Matching the customizations is harder [13:37:13] if you have a link pix can likely look into it [13:37:26] [[Special:Preferences]] has a list of skins you can preview [13:37:27]

[13:37:28] [1/2] I only saw a few minutes ago that my request was accepted, however, I made a test page to mess around with everything first. [13:37:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402284371750424576/image.png?ex=68935a97&is=68920917&hm=32c713f7211dbec1bfda6bb7d5702efbf30235a1537934f503245bf485e44d89& [13:37:49] To an extent, someone forgot their laptop in a different place so I don’t have it this morning [13:37:58] ah [13:39:01] [1/2] Well, on visual editor you can use the 🔗 button. In source code format [13:39:02] [2/2] `[[Hellen Felor]]` would link to the article of that name [13:39:08] I tried some out [13:39:14] but they don't seem to affect the wiki rn [13:39:22] you have to switch to them in your user settings [13:39:23] How so [13:39:36] when you find one you prefer, you can set it in Special:ManageWiki/settings under the styling tab [13:39:37] The useskin should work with the preview button [13:39:49] that would work too [13:40:08] `[[Hellen Felor|James Smith]]` would link to the Hellen article, but the text the link would display is James Smith [13:40:20] [1/2] I typed this into the browser link, guess this is the one? [13:40:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402285093380427876/image.png?ex=68935b43&is=689209c3&hm=2a77b5f355fa1059a26a726b79cf6f2c41896c9826e0ed59f9cd44487cad1370& [13:40:31] found styling [13:41:09] [1/2] hm only these are available at the moment [13:41:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402285300503281816/image.png?ex=68935b74&is=689209f4&hm=32eed636c49bf51f21e25423b82a756432461b43a4fea8809c90a92f592e3bca& [13:41:48] You can enable more in Special:ManageWiki/extensions [13:42:08] This controls what’s available on the wiki, settings controls which is set as the default [13:42:11] something to remember is managewiki changes (and mediawiki namespace changes, like css) can be slow to apply [13:42:25] Sleepy wiki [13:42:27] though new skins enabled tend to be instant [13:42:33] Oh I should find that visual theme designer extension I was working on [13:42:42] :heart_bee: [13:42:42] which you can do at Special:ManageWiki/extensions under the skins tab [13:42:45] That would be dope [13:42:49] I [13:42:53] oh man remembering all of these... [13:42:58] Entirely forgot I also was working on one a long time ago [13:43:06] And will chose to continue to forget for me own sake [13:43:14] Eh [13:43:22] It gets worse [13:43:24] I think I had it pretty much production ready (in principle) but there were some problems with Cosmos because it uses less variables [13:43:39] There is also [[mw:Help:Contents]] [13:43:42] oh [13:43:51] Sleepy bot? [13:43:52]

[13:43:52] Is the bot DEAD or is mw not the thing [13:44:11] Groggy morning [13:44:17] (mood) [13:44:44] is there a resource with all of these then? [13:44:52] im never not googling all of this stuff [13:45:06] All what, skins? [13:45:41] [1/2] I tried out cosmos, then this happened. [13:45:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402286444277399662/image.png?ex=68935c85&is=68920b05&hm=56aa8bb803a01aa6cb24b2f6d8fa3be7ceb55541fcb5f0f670d6eac8cb27179a& [13:45:44] i mean, there's mediawiki.org help [13:45:58] Any error lower down? [13:46:01] hmmm [13:46:04] links like: Special:Preferences [13:46:09] Maybe ill finish if there is genuine interest? [13:46:10] Oh [13:46:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402286591350673559/image.png?ex=68935ca8&is=68920b28&hm=5c60bf9fd77de97a46d0b57559d820a19f1bb9cf2f0bcacf77ccbec29380f5ac& [13:46:20] here [13:46:21] Well there’s [[Special:SpecialPages]] [13:46:33] You don’t need to learn everything [13:46:35] [[mw:Help:Preferences]] [13:46:36]

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[13:46:45] Even I forget a lot of pages and tools that exist [13:47:02] Is this only for vector 22? [13:47:37] this happened when I selected Cosmos [13:47:42] I tried citizen before that [13:47:52] Huuuh [13:47:53] [1/2] you should enable Cosmos skin for wiki, then set it up as default skin in wiki's admin settings [13:47:53] [2/2] user preferences is something that would only for you, personally, although you still need to enable Cosmos beforehand [13:49:00] I recommended user preferences because that would let Renjiro get a feel for it before setting it as default [13:49:04] [1/2] oohh... now errors this time [13:49:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402287294542512179/image.png?ex=68935d50&is=68920bd0&hm=7015af2a638ae1942b6486e63251549ceb20e49090436c61dffc6b1c4efe811c& [13:49:05] weird [13:49:37] why not `?useskin=cosmos` on meta [13:49:41] hm I see [13:49:59]