[00:02:42] could we add ColorizerToolVE [00:02:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402441757324742756/image.png?ex=6893ed2b&is=68929bab&hm=4f0fd7fe6852dff16162ce39bf076aa9d99686ef39eb4d1aa4134488e1b7102d& [00:03:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402441817911459911/image.png?ex=6893ed39&is=68929bb9&hm=800ccd48756f94d4cffd4f6190f29d3b6bc443ce1e3ab1fcd224b6a1dffff8a8& [00:03:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402441844742422599/image.png?ex=6893ed3f&is=68929bbf&hm=a08d96ef95e532aeb15cc89f216ede1799b93329851d92a6a2b97ebf2df7e343& [00:09:05] make an extension request at [[Phorge]] [00:09:06]

[00:15:18] done [00:37:07] Is files still unavailable [00:37:15] yes [00:54:34] Oh so thats how you add stuff ti visual editor [00:54:41] Very useful I will definitely never be doing that [02:35:18] [1/2] Enough keywords yet? 😭😭😭 [02:35:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402480124133376204/IMG_2722.png?ex=689410e6&is=6892bf66&hm=d78eb595eff4aa373b8b7a2f96dd2327ad389f42f3805e4a90db83a6e5f0d23a& [02:35:49] the wiki only shows up when I add “Miraheze” after it but I think it’ll pop up later on without the word “Miraheze” [02:36:08] unless it won’t then I’ll cry [02:36:15] :thanks: [02:38:04] i think you have a few [04:37:22] @serverlessharej we have a savings account now? [04:41:29] if it's in the Finance page then yes! [04:44:38] wow! [04:44:51] only 10 years old [04:44:55] they grow up so fast [04:51:19] Yep! Finally found a place to park unused funds between major endeavors and annual bills so our donations can stretch even farther. [04:52:14] Whats the rate? [04:53:15] Long time coming, we'd been working on the idea for a year and change, but it's been one thing or another with the candidate providers/products we were looking at. [04:53:47] Just checked and it was mid july of last year I first floated the concept [04:54:16] 3.8% APY [04:54:31] Not that bad given how much we have on our plates lol [04:54:33] Not stellar, but for business banking not too shabby at all for fully insured, zero risk [04:54:51] Well, I can't speak to the Board's workload [04:55:50] Any plans to look into more speculative investments in the future? [04:56:31] If you're talking about money-making investment ventures, that gets more complicated and far enough outside core mission that it's probably not on the table at any point [04:57:10] Makes sense [04:57:34] We have thought about where we could help mutually beneficial projects and become a true foundation in name (they're usually charitable grant-writing orgs), but we have a lot to take care of in our own space furst. [04:57:44] Mhm [04:58:08] By that point maybe we'll be able to start paying Cosmic [04:58:19] Maybe even minimum wage! (gasp) [05:06:35] i wonder what's a good amount of money to keep in the checking account [05:06:40] because more money in savings = more interest, no? [05:08:16] Yup, more money in the long term, but less money in the short term, since saving accounts are more difficult to remove money from early, usually in the form of fees or forfeiting interest [05:08:35] [1/2] ah okay [05:08:35] [2/2] i assume that's a business savings account thing? [05:08:54] Same with personal accounts [05:08:56] huh [05:09:06] that feels weird [05:09:06] I'm more basing my knowledge on thar [05:09:15] personally, i can move my money whenever [05:09:23] hell, i've accidentally moved $10k when i meant $1k [05:09:31] I may be wrong, it's 1 AM [05:09:45] I [05:10:25] I need sleep, I have work in the morning [05:10:53] fair [05:34:31] It's because the bank wants a commitment if it's giving you a higher interest [05:34:59] Banks generate savings interest in 2 ways [05:35:20] so i suppose that's a typical thing? [05:35:22] By using your savings to fund mortgages & loans and charging people interest and fees [05:35:40] Or by investing your money along with everyone else's [05:35:46] Yes [05:35:49] huh okay [05:36:39] i typically only have $100 in my checking account, and transfer money from savings to checking whenever i need to spend > $100 [05:36:49] (if <= $100, i pay first, and then move money afterwards) [05:37:12] I have double my monthly outgoings in my main account [05:37:27] The rest in savings and investments [05:39:18] We've discussed on that point, there's a few major expansion projects on the tech side we want to reserve cash for + annual renewals and anything moved over to savings is generally to be considered "not for use in the next 3-6 months" We've floated a possibility of another 2-5k transfer at some point, but want to get immediate expenses sorted first. [05:39:56] We actually don't have much in the way of fees to worry about w/ this bank, no maintenance fee or transfer fees in most cases, but it is worth remembering that transfers take time and we are limited in number of txns a month [05:40:16] oh okay [05:40:28] now i'm kinda curious what bank it is [05:42:34] also, do transfers across your own bank accounts typically take time? ^^; [05:42:45] (unless if the checking and savings are w/ different banks) [05:42:58] Intrabank transfers generally no depending on class of account, inter-bank transfers yes. [05:43:21] Things like applying a payment to a credit card or loan may not reflect right away [05:43:55] Also moving from a checking to an investment account at the same servicer may not be immmediate [05:44:06] til that investment accounts are a thing [05:45:20] Yes. Was gonna dive into the weeds on this, but it's late and there's so many financial products out there. [05:45:53] damn, no NA bank infodumping 💔 [05:45:59] 🥀 [05:46:15] why are there transfer delays though? [05:46:17] Suffice to say, I've had enough time to build such a net [05:46:53] Mix of fraud prevention, anti-money laundering, and terrorism screening regulations, among other things [05:47:16] even for checkings -> savings and vice versa? [05:47:35] Between accounts at the same bank that's instant-ish [05:47:57] what is the -ish here... [05:49:23] ah okay [05:50:34] Anything around 5k+ USD moving around raises eyebrows, especially repeated transactions. As well as repeat transactions just below this limit. [05:50:56] The headache comes from interbank and certainly cross country [05:51:27] my main concern was w/ the wtf and how quick it is to move money between checking and savings [05:52:25] guess i'll try not to think about how i transferred $10k from savings to checking, then transferred that $10k from checking to another bank account of mine, then realised that there's one too many zeros [05:52:57] There's also trusted interbank person-to-person payment services like Zelle that gets you out of the merchant processer ecosystem (e.g. visa, mastercard) and is usually near instant. [05:53:04] Not sure if that's an outside-US thing though [05:53:18] we have osko in australia for instant interbank transfers [05:53:43] (typically instant at least; first transfers to an account are held for up to 24h) [05:54:04] Meanwhile half of the institutions I want to bank with don't support FedNow [05:55:54] In Brazil, the country runs on Pix [05:56:32] wai [06:30:05] [1/2] google doesn't give a shit about keywords, may even punish you if you have too many [06:30:05] [2/2] fuck google anyway [06:40:15] @blankeclair I'll DM [07:22:23] How do I make someone an admin on my wiki [07:23:23] Bit late, but I've sent my feedback on [[Talk:Closed wikis]] [07:23:25]

[07:24:50] go to Special:UserRights/SomeonesName on your wiki, then assign admin rights to the user [07:28:04] [1/13] Premise 1: Life exists. [07:28:04] [2/13] Premise 2: Suffering is a threat to life. [07:28:05] [3/13] Premise 3: Threat to life is ethically bad, because it threatens survival. [07:28:05] [4/13] Conclusion 1: Therefore, suffering is bad. [07:28:05] [5/13] Conclusion 2: Therefore, life is bad, because it leads to suffering. [07:28:06] [6/13] Negation: If life doesn't exist, suffering doesn't exist, ethically bad things don't exist. [07:28:06] [7/13] Conclusion 3: Life must perish for suffering to be gone. [07:28:06] [8/13] Premise 4: Perishing of life is a threat to life, because it negates survival. [07:28:06] [9/13] Conclusion 4: Perishing of life is bad. [07:28:07] [10/13] Conclusion 5: No matter if you choose to live or die, the threat to life still happens, which means that no matter if you choose life or death, everything is unethical. [07:28:07] [11/13] Premise 5: A life can be a threat of survival to another life. [07:28:08] [12/13] Conclusion 6: Life affirmation became the affirmation of life negation as life is inherently self-negating [07:28:08] [13/13] Note 1: Drawing from Premise 5 and Premise 3, I can redraw Conclusion 2 again. [07:28:20] Life affirmation taken radically became the affirmation of the life negation itself [07:30:03] [1/4] I've been thinking: what if someone can pay a volunteer to implement certain features? The simplest example is paying someone in tech to create/improve an extension, which doesn't have anything to do with MH operations. It could've been a personal transaction between 2 people: person A paid person B to do X on GitHub/gerrit. Having MH involved somehow coul [07:30:03] [2/4] d improve the trustworthiness of it, though. [07:30:04] [3/4] Extension review is more troublesome due to COI. Imagine me paying CA to expedite an extension review while hinting at one particular review outcome. [07:30:04] [4/4] Idk how the details are going to turn out, but since WikiForge seems to have fallen by the wayside, this could be an alternative to have volunteers paid for some of their work. People may not like the idea of getting money involved in a FOSS project, but this way of paying FOSS devs has existed since the era of the GNU Manifesto in the 80s. [09:54:24] Hi [09:59:01] CA has GitHub sponsors btw, if you want to toss him a few coins for his thankless work you already can [11:10:55] [1/2] how can i make the join discord button appear? [11:10:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402609877032894547/Screenshot_2025-08-06-18-10-10-29_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=689489bd&is=6893383d&hm=aaca9064468c3d86756bed8a9573cda8281e52599db09d26bbf5411a7ecc6baf& [11:11:22] Go to widget settings and set an instant invite channel [11:43:11] Makes sense, though sponsorships like this are unconditional, so the incentives are a bit different compared with a paid commission. [12:27:31] Proceeded to stay up til 2AM watching a movies [12:32:37] y'all need better sleeping habits [12:32:47] and i'm surprised that i'm the one to be saying this [12:34:19] oh right, commissions [12:35:23] YEAH [12:35:36] that aint how this is supposed to work [12:35:40] I think they could be a good idea, and MH could be trusted to hold the money while work is in progress so we can be sure we're getting paid and that everyone holds their end of the deal maybe [12:36:27] was a good movie though [12:37:41] personally I'd be up for taking commissions but I don't really want to deal with whether or not that income would be taxable in Spain. [12:38:41] leave it to taxes to ruin everything [12:39:43] it's not really that they ruin it, it'd just require a few hours sitting down and studying the law or consulting an expert, but I kind of don't want to [12:39:55] true [13:02:25] I'm new to Miraheze, is there anyway to view all the pages on my wiki? [13:02:43] Special:AllPages [13:02:44] Try Special:AllPages [13:03:02] i think you should consider Special:AllPages [13:03:11] Thanks [13:03:19] oh 💔 [13:06:20] SEO stuff stressed me out so much, I’ve basically just stopped giving it much mind [13:06:53] yup [13:07:26] i stopped using google too, it's been getting extremely frustrating [13:07:32] ddg or bing [13:08:11] and pizza tower wiki showed me that reputation and word of mouth are still a thing [13:12:02] Yeah I know plenty of people outside of the wiki space who know when to avoid fandom wikis and that gives me peace of mind [13:33:46] pretty sure ddg is just bing anyway with aspects of its own index but not enough to stand quite on its own [13:33:55] bing gives you the full microsoft turd experience [13:34:24] google plays in its own box at this point though, if the ads won't git ya the ai or the intentionally neutered search quality will [13:35:42] I don't wholeheartedly recommend kagi yet but it's shaped up as a contender, brave is okay but I still find it is behind ddg. But the nice thing is brave works on its own index more aggressively and that's the only real way to have an alternative in a market that depends on proxying monopolist players [13:47:05] Brave search never gets what I need. [13:47:25] yeah, i understand that neither of these two are significantly better [13:47:50] but google became significantly worse on several instances already [13:48:04] Google AI actually causes my PC to freeze so I can’t use it anymore [13:48:05] cases for me at least [13:48:39] ads and ai are blocked on my end, it's search results that really got bad [13:48:42] I’ve been using ecosia for the time being [13:49:00] getting "nothing" screens more and more often [13:51:23] last try i tried to reverse search in google an old time photo of a semi nude woman i saw on a bootleg vinyl, nothing sexual - it clearly refused to go further w/ "we haven't found nothing", while tineye at least clocked that i got image from discogs [13:58:49] [1/2] >an old time photo of a semi nude woman i saw on a bootleg vinyl [13:58:50] [2/2] For research, yes I am also a man of research [13:59:23] Yeah I get the “we restrict images of real people” stuff a lot when I reverse search publically available photographs and stuff [13:59:29] So annoying [13:59:50] Tineye straight up never works for me either idk how the lost media YouTubers do it lol [13:59:54] i mean, i was wondering what's source of a photo possibly from 30s or 50s lol [14:00:10] Yeah [14:04:17] tineye was suggested to me to find exact matches/sources of images [14:05:13] if you're looking for context/info of image, which possibly means it will look different, then yeah, might fail [14:06:48] hey, you can't make a page with a # in it, right? [14:08:05] i don't think so, although it probably will bring problems w/ section linking [14:08:17] [[mw:Help:Bad title]] [14:08:18]

[14:08:41] thanks! [14:09:10] ah see [14:09:13] in that page [14:09:28] # gets trimmed @mx.lilasekhmet [14:09:28] yeah, looks like I can't [14:09:35] thanks! [14:09:36] omg lmao [14:09:45] I will think of another title then... [14:09:51] absolutely terrifying lmao [14:09:59] oh, you fixed it, and now it looks like I'm insane [14:10:14] yeah i forgot new discord formatting sorry lol [14:10:51] (I'm trying to make a page about a comic that is untitled, but is #138 in the series, so I was going for "The Daft Dimension #138 (Comic)" or "#138 (The Daft Dimension Comic)" but alas... [14:13:55] maybe `No.` [14:15:04] That’s the weird thing. I’ll look up a photograph I found, get no results, then find the exact image on another site. [14:21:58] You can use the ♯ symbol as a cursed alternative [15:14:26] [1/2] is there a way to fix this? [15:14:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402671165335404574/image0.jpg?ex=6894c2d2&is=68937152&hm=d7fe4f26035e93318073faad7a2e8b5c09492d9e09b2e7ea3a59f38e3563c492& [15:16:17] lazy fix: Page → Wikitext string I guess [15:56:40] [1/2] any way to make the comment section below the categories? [15:56:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402681795241312469/image.png?ex=6894ccb8&is=68937b38&hm=6d440c079685dfe39311f0066e3d439f370d24ea12aef70e6266c8a9b8278c92& [16:00:34] [1/2] This is the big hurdle, frankly. Either contract work or direct payment of an employee opens up a huge number of legal implications and reporting requirements for the foundation. [16:00:35] [2/2] Not insurmountable, but a non-trivial amount of new administrative overhead + new risk exposure for the org. [16:01:24] That, and making sure we can provide fair compensation for work provided (and that the work is meaningful to the foundation's goals) without depleting our coffers. [16:02:23] Paying claire to make a meow-based queue minder might be fun, but it might not be a good use of our resources to further the mission. 🙂 [16:07:21]