[00:05:18] I’m forced to add “Miraheze” after typing the name of my wiki [00:05:26] Without it, it doesn’t show up [00:05:39] I don’t know why, maybe it’s because it’s new and doesn’t really have any visitors yet [00:06:11] seo is a pita [00:06:15] > [07/08/2025 08:54] only one hour kinda mid [00:06:18] crystalite13: wdym 1h lol [00:07:05] [1/2] Well yes probably, but it’s very possible to get ahead of Fandom [00:07:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402805208467247194/IMG_2735.png?ex=68953fa8&is=6893ee28&hm=e568ebcc3af7a3e89d3b8472441786e556c1f10d7a0f7d72e5a3205b329a72d8& [00:07:18] :O [00:07:28] second time i've seen a non-fandom wiki rise over f*ndom [00:07:40] I don’t even know how we did it but it’s nice to have [00:08:30] Is it really that rare? 🤑🤑 [00:08:34] I hope it isn’t [00:08:37] It’d suck [00:08:54] same [00:09:08] then again, i don't actively look for wikis that rise from the ashes [00:09:19] :EpicFaceMH: [00:09:26] :transheze: [00:09:34] omg minecraft wiki is top [00:09:44] (well, minecraft.net is top, and then minecraft wiki, but shh) [00:09:57] mineeeeecraaaaftttt [00:09:59] flint and steel [00:10:07] rainverse wiki is below fandom :broken_heart: [00:15:21] im sad to tell you that miraheze relay cannot do discord emojis [00:23:53] it might be able to if you use the id [00:24:01] \:transheze: [00:24:27] idk the exact syntax [00:32:58] Bit of a silly question probably but is it possible to customise these bullets to my own little image (I want to use static.wikitide.net/blockstarplanetwiki/7/7a/Bullet.png) if so, how? 🥹 I just simply dislike the looks of the normal bullets [00:33:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402811756920701189/IMG_2734.png?ex=689545c1&is=6893f441&hm=e7aae00829ce66367c7c2acfa3b106ad4a72dfac4fd27598c6509d3f46e61021& [00:33:10] :EpicFaceMH: [00:33:40] (also I love good looking wiki’s, boring wiki’s are just… boring) [00:33:55] > [07/08/2025 10:15] im sad to tell you that miraheze relay cannot do discord emojis [00:34:01] i know, but i don't remember the id [00:52:05] [1/5] ```css [00:52:05] [2/5] ul { [00:52:06] [3/5] list-style-image: url(...); [00:52:06] [4/5] } [00:52:06] [5/5] ``` [01:00:11] I put it in my common css, I hope it works lmao 🤑 [01:23:59] It's not unicorn rare, but it does require excellent work on content completeness, interlinking of pages and engaging the community to make your version the trusted version [02:43:06] Im seeing it much more commonly lately. [02:51:19] I found 5 miraheze wikis ahead of Fandom just by searching Google just now lol. I actually didn't quite expect that [02:51:29] make that 6 [02:52:18] 3 are custom domains 3 are miraheze subdomains. [03:50:21] Fear and Hunger wiki.gg seems to be above its fandom one [03:51:40] Transformers and the kingdom heart wikis as well but those are also just very old [03:51:46] wiki.gg wikis are better at crawling above fandom than us from what I've seen [03:52:07] especially if you get custom domain, you loose miraheze.org rep [03:53:00] [1/2] So close [03:53:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402862062799032422/IMG_7075.png?ex=6895749b&is=6894231b&hm=4779031bb6f1f7850d0932911b099f0b783c29b99de61a9b34579e397dff5033& [04:34:30] Oh shit, some deeplore from the recently recovered vault [04:35:38] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402872794211160064/PXL_20250807_043510563.jpg?ex=68957e9a&is=68942d1a&hm=f1e4efa40615431b54f0169eb424b9e14dccfc81edc081b1595d94063551f8e5& [04:35:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1402872794622066698/PXL_20250807_043517855.jpg?ex=68957e9a&is=68942d1a&hm=b4af87ff768c8d8cd563f2317623d65c5f22e61689c39e2da21ce74f1ce0b737& [04:35:58] When digimon was just bandai's wild handheld experience in the 90s [04:37:18] (context: a box of childhood stuff just got recently unearthed from decadees of storage and it is an utter trove of 90s and 2000s memorabilia) [04:48:29] [1/2] Strinova Wiki ranks higher than fandom, though that's because the fandom wiki barely has any content at all. [04:48:29] [2/2] It also ranks higher than wikipedia, which is prettynice. [05:06:48] Blue Archive Wiki sometimes ranks higher than its fandom counterpart, which is a bit surprising because the fandom wiki has about 2x the number of active editors. Still, the MH wiki provides lots of unique content (from dataminers and bot operators), so it makes sense to me. [07:21:26] That sounds upsetting [09:45:39] Hey, can someone check my wiki' s modules I think imported too much Module from Wikipedia isn't a goor idea(I should simplify some template to avoid use cascading modules) [09:46:52] Importing from Wikipedia is unwise unless you want to do a LOT of work removing all or finding each thread to weave [09:48:02] [1/2] Who can give me idea to handle module:main? [09:48:02] [2/2] Wikipedia use pagetype modules and redirect modules [09:48:52] Wikipedia templates are a complex tapasty made of many threads (modules and son on), it is best to weave your own and not try copy Wikipedia's [09:51:30] [1/5] Which is the best for template:main [09:51:31] [2/5] about [09:51:31] [3/5] for [09:51:31] [4/5] not [09:51:32] [5/5] I see only simple #if parser and hatnote Template used in simple version(also WP use it in former version) [09:51:38] Or you could take from Miraheze dev wiki, those templates are easyer [09:52:10] OK, I see [09:56:08] I find looking through the history and finding some of the older revisions easier to manage or edit. [09:57:08] [1/4] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Main?action=edit [09:57:08] [2/4] It's not better than Wikipedia's version(I think WP's version should be simplify for wiki use) [09:57:09] [3/4] WP use loop to handle params insted of stack #if parser to detect fix number of param. [09:57:09] [4/4] Besides,WP's provide redirect detect and reuse redirect and hatnote modules. [10:01:45] [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main&action=edit&oldid=424831235 [10:01:46] [2/2] The version without using modules [10:06:50] How many wikis use module? I think not much [10:09:55] You'll be surprised on how many users just copy everything from Wikipedia. The Support threads often feature request for help to make those WP templates work. [10:21:31] I remember Raidarr had an essay titled "Don't copy from Wikipieda" or something like that [10:21:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/Don%27t_import_Wikipedia [10:33:49] [1/2] I generally read the modules and documentation if they have one before importing them from somewhere to at least understand what they're doing. [10:33:49] [2/2] Suffice it to say, importing from Star Citizen wiki is kind of the equivalent to Wikipedia, but even worse because of its dependance on SMW [10:37:05] Or just any module that relies on Wikimedia extensions (ugh, DPL3...) [10:42:50] In some cases Modules are better than the old templates that were whole suites of templates. (Like Citation) [10:47:39] Then again, Wikipedia's auto taxonomy system...... Tremendous way to hack your way to make a database, but even if it doesn't have extension dependencies it's probably impossible to port cause I think it requires a bot to update the entries properly. [11:01:40] Indeed [11:06:14] I do wonder how many LTAs Miraheze has now [11:18:17] How do you guys decide your wiki backgrounds? Do you try to stay on theme with your wikis, or is anything mostly free game so long as it isn't weird or unpleasant to look at? [11:22:00] be cool and have backgrounds based on the page [11:25:04] Is there an easy way to batch upload images? [11:25:19] As in based on the topic of the wiki? [11:26:07] As in, helping a fandom wiki migrate and there's some images I need to manually upload to the Mira wiki. And uploading them 1 by 1 is going to take ages. [11:28:38] No I mean on my question, was asking Skye [11:28:40] Do you know Dead by Daylight in Fandom uses many modules? [11:28:41] Soz for the confusion [11:30:15] Module is advanced template in a way [11:30:45] we just have screenshots from the game as the background [11:33:50] O right [11:34:14] I currently have it too but I'm too enamored with third party HUD backgrounds for the game lol [11:34:23] fair lol [11:37:33] I have a an nice forest image as a background [11:38:39] In general you can use MsUpload to upload multiple files [11:39:15] Or maybe open a Phorge ticket and have staff upload with a maint script [11:39:18] simplebatchupload my beloved [11:39:19] For migrating images off Fandom, though... I think some people on this server have tools/bots to do so [11:40:40] If you're asking how to do it for yourself, then every MediaWiki wiki exposes a public API route from which you can list the static URLs of all images on the wiki [11:40:44] But those are somewhat disconnected from the topic which's why I'm asking [11:43:32] how many [11:47:41] Like 15 [11:48:02] If MsUpload works I suppose I'll just tell them to enable that [12:14:09] If I import a export file and there also a existing page of that imported page, does MediaWiki would be overwrote them or make a new one with different name? [12:14:21] [1/2] For established communities with a decent team of maintainers who know Lua it's fine to use modules. [12:14:22] [2/2] For a small one-man project it's probably overkill unless you really know what you're doing [12:16:40] ^ what I intended as a takeaway for my essay, it might need to be updated [12:27:12] I noticed whenever I start a new wiki project I tend to spend like 4 hours importing modules only to realize they break and idk how to use them and make something that doesn’t use Lua [12:31:22] Same tbh [12:31:58] I remember having to cut corners for my wiki at the end compared to the official game wiki because I don't know what to copy to ensure the CSS doesn't break [12:35:44] I always end up thinking "Make templates first, then the content" but I guess that's coming from my experience as a web developer ^^u [12:39:07] Speaking of modules... Lua supports modules written in C, but does Scribunto support something like that? Or would I have to make a MW extension that extends Scribunto? [12:50:19] Yeah I always make template first but I try importing extremely complex templates first [13:07:36] [scribunto explicitly doesn't support C libraries]() 😔 [13:34:37] iirc I was also focused on the content at first myself [13:35:01] Added the bare minimum amount of CSS for the site to be usable and just went straight into writing content [14:28:03] I have nothing scientific to back that up but it's my impression that content-first is more likely to succeed if you're starting from scratch [14:28:42] yeah it is 💔 [14:29:11] this definitely plays into it [15:09:44] I lost access to my Miraheze account since it was in a data branch and I had to change it and forgot the password, how can I get my account back [15:37:30] If you have an email associated then reset the password. If not, then its 99% likely that its unrecoverable. [15:37:48] The other 1% being if you were really on form and did something like a committed identity we could cross reference [15:38:32] Its not called a committed identity I think i just made that up, someone probably knows what I mean who knows the actual term 😭 [15:40:15] iirc duchess never touched anything like that anyway from what I remember [15:40:22] and anyone who did is probably going to be pretty aware of it [15:47:50] [1/2] it is called committed identity [15:47:50] [2/2] [[w:Template:Committed Identity]] [15:47:50]

[15:58:01] Oh i knew that sounded familiar [16:39:23] [1/3] any opinions/suggestions for the main page on my wiki 👩🏻‍🦲👩🏻‍🦲👩🏻‍🦲 (also for some reason the top bar doesn’t show in the first screenshot but trust me it looks good) [16:39:24] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403054931417763933/IMG_2748.jpg?ex=6896283b&is=6894d6bb&hm=bf300555e70bc5607ce0c15b879fd44731293ba84ea0d66144149f3c51a7061e& [16:39:24] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1403054932013351076/IMG_2750.png?ex=6896283b&is=6894d6bb&hm=696526ffbd001421bcb433066084f655fad44949322ebdea973da735fb124e43& [17:05:59] .auth [18:02:35] I think it looks realyt nice [18:04:33] thank youuououoouou [18:04:36] :EpicFaceMH: :EpicFaceMH: [18:23:51] Long screenshot is long [18:25:34] I got it [18:29:38] yes [18:29:50] I had to click “Full Page” on the screenshot editing thing or whatever it is [23:55:50] [1/2] Hi, how do I use the MassEditRegex to change a category spelling? I haven't got the hang of it yet, and there's about 14 pages in the category I would rather not have to edit manually. Specifically, I want to switch something from [[Category:Organisations]] to [[Category:Organizations]], since my wiki uses American English and not British to follow the source material's editing conven [23:55:50] [2/2] tions. [23:55:51]

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