[01:58:15] Is there a general word to refer to both templates and modules [01:58:25] for the purposes of a help page title [02:11:01] Normally we just use "Templates" when meaning both [02:11:49] For example: Wikipedia's templates have a lot of dependencies. With that I mean both Templates and Modules [02:13:46] Our development wiki [[dev:]] does mention them separate though. Templates, Modules, Scripts, Extensions and Gadgets. [02:17:13] [1/3] RIP, Wiki-bot's down. I also checked its dashboard, also down and so is its wiki. It just returns with an error 404 when I tried checking its cookies article earlier. [02:17:13] [2/3] -# This is a customized Windows 10 build, not Windows XP if it had a baby with Windows 2000. [02:17:13] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414071982122602618/image.png?ex=68be3ca8&is=68bceb28&hm=5a1cb81423ba0bee5caedb1b570b0440449a2865e83e85911781fbabf678ccfe& [02:18:51] hmm ok [02:19:52] scripts means JS? [02:32:30] Are image uploads down right now? [03:20:19] MediaWiki has added a scroll bar for over-sized tables. Scrolling does not provide the best user experience, though. [03:21:57] yeah what I was saying was rswiki's scroll seems to work differently for that. it'll only scroll the relevant row which is better for navboxes [03:23:07] maybe they stacked different tables and made them look like one or something [03:25:00] By only scrolling the relevant row, do you mean only scrolling the relevant navbox? [03:25:12] no like you can scroll an individual row in a navbox [03:25:27] but the header of the row remains static [03:25:43] wait [03:25:44] hmmm [03:25:55] it's even more modified than that [03:26:10] the left column was made into header rows [03:26:25] damn I really gotta look into this [03:27:11] Ah I see. Thanks for letting me know. This seems to be the same behavior as moegirlpedia except that their source code is available. [03:27:23] [1/2] looks like this [03:27:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414089641308455042/Screenshot_2025-09-07-11-27-00-69_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg?ex=68be4d1b&is=68bcfb9b&hm=8934e76a0fc636f5b36743471f4b4e9471ef7bb7c06f335217f3bbc40aa0ae11& [03:27:38] [1/2] and on desktop [03:27:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414089702998409276/image.png?ex=68be4d29&is=68bcfba9&hm=1f993609cbfb5a121236395688b6bfb25b771482dc23ad741d0fbc28b376d7d9& [03:28:02] Idk why they do the horizontal scroll though. Wrapping seems like the better solution. [03:28:39] might be due to the sheer length wrapping would introduce for the number of items in their infoboxes [05:25:30] Why is the wiki approval so slow [05:25:45] ive been waiting like 3 days for mine to get through, is there a holdup? [05:27:11] Hey pretty people, where do I go to setup multiple languages for our wiki? 🤔 [05:27:28] We're trying to add french and turkish variants to the wiki [05:27:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki [05:30:44] The AI that oversees wiki requests (monitored by human volunteers) was announced to be significantly disrupted a month ago; no updates on that situation have been given afaik [05:31:22] no humans have come to look at my wiki [05:31:47] any way I can get contact? (The person above me in the list already had someone look at them so..) [05:35:12] [1/2] Not sure; and the announcement also states there is an enormous backlog of requests - 219 as of last month - and I assume its only gotten worse since [05:35:13] [2/2] Essentially, unless the issue was resolved unannounced, I'm not sure if getting in contact with someone will reduce the duration of wait [05:38:49] Wait... Does it actually require _multiple_ wikis to exist at the same time for multiple languages? This feels a bit weird] [05:38:51] Eugh [05:39:04] yeah [05:39:18] That really sucks though [05:39:21] this kinda sucks/feels innecifient [05:40:36] Nope. [05:40:44] > You can also use interwiki links when a page has multilanguage versions on the same wiki. For example, you can link [[Example]] to [[Example/fr]]. [05:40:52] Currently there are 80 requests [05:41:02] It's not fully accurate. The AI is working, but it only reviews a wiki request once [05:41:13] I am at spot 24 [05:41:26] yeah I noticed [05:41:27] After that, it requires a human review and we are at a deficit for reviewers [05:41:32] Ah [05:41:55] I am only available on weekends now, but often am making up the difference [05:42:11] I'll be blasting through the queue tomorrw [05:42:16] Its the feckin weekend chop chop take your timeeee [05:42:26] Apologies for the misinformation then [05:42:34] Oh [05:42:36] another question [05:42:49] is it possible to apply page specific css to miraheze wikis [05:43:02] I was admittedly a bit confused because there wasn't really an update on the wiki request review AI [05:43:05] [1/2] ie page A has this background [05:43:06] [2/2] page B has this background [05:43:49] [1/2] I am also going to ask: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/65403#mw-section-comments [05:43:49] [2/2] is this description enough to get accepted or does it warrant a rewrite [05:44:15] [1/2] there are two ways - more trad is several wikis, aka what Wikipedia and Fandom do, that means essentially different communities as well [05:44:15] [2/2] another way is setting up Translate extension, thus keeping all on one wiki but that means that other lang versions should be precise translations of original english pages + horrible code [05:44:23] Each page has a unique class that corresponds to its page name [05:44:56] so you can? What about using templates to apply 1 file to all [05:45:32] [1/9] so: [05:45:32] [2/9] A.css [05:45:32] [3/9] >Page 1 [05:45:33] [4/9] >Page 2 [05:45:33] [5/9] >Page 3 [05:45:33] [6/9] B.css [05:45:34] [7/9] >Page 4 [05:45:34] [8/9] >Page 5 [05:45:34] [9/9] >Page 6 [05:46:44] [1/3] I wrote a gadget that does this a while back. It does not require hard-coding page names in CSS and just needs a template. I will put it on the dev wiki as some point. Example: [05:46:45] [2/3] https://strinova.org/wiki/Teatime_Delight [05:46:45] [3/3] https://strinova.org/wiki/Rustic_Rumble [05:47:19] oh fuck [05:47:22] that is cool [05:47:27] now how do I do this with light/dark [05:47:36] I'm also a steward, board member, and director of trust and safety, some have a little more priority. 🙂 [05:47:49] [1/3] You can have pages in multiple languages on the same wiki. Example: [05:47:50] [2/3] https://strinova.org/wiki/Michele [05:47:50] [3/3] https://strinova.org/wiki/Michele/ja [05:48:17] yeah thats fair enough [05:50:29] [1/3] There's a full guide: [05:50:30] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_improve_the_dark_mode_appearance_of_my_wiki [05:50:30] [3/3] I think the gadget only handles dark mode on vector-2022. For other skins you would need to look for alternative solutions. [05:50:51] damn I wanted to use refreshed for mine [05:50:53] ah yeah, that too, probably my preferred way [05:50:59] (we did a vote and everyone liked it that way) [05:52:15] That's the unfortunate part of using a less popular skin: it'll be more difficult to find wikis that you can copy-paste CSS from. [05:52:47] I mean we are rebuilding it ground up, I might just use themetoggle for this [06:12:28] [1/2] Can I delete my wiki, then re-create it under a different account? [06:12:28] [2/2] There's probably a weirdo or two that I'm worried cyberstalks my original account under a different alias. [06:12:58] That's fair, it was a pretty short-lived but impactful interruption [06:13:09] I would prefer being able to just have all the logs erased and remade under a different username [06:13:10] you can just add the new account as a bureaucrat I think [06:13:16] oh ok [06:13:46] yeah but technically they could view the rename log of the original account [06:14:21] I deleted all of the pages and images except for the main page I think [06:14:32] it's fairly small and I was the only editor [06:15:18] to be fair, it is private so the public can't view the pages anyways, but still [06:15:37] in case it gets bigger and I want to make it public someday [06:16:33] I didn't get cancelled, just that the person that I have to deal with is a total nutjob and threatens people over political differences [06:17:21] so I'd rather the wiki be affiliated with a creator under an alias with a fresh start [06:18:00] because I don't want this individual threatening me or my community because they're childish [06:19:01] said individual shouldn't be able to recognize my other account's name [06:20:58] but yeah idk if deleting a wiki then re-making it with the creator/original bureaucrat being replaced by a different one if it can be start up again from scratch is possible [06:25:42] Oh, another critical question, when using Maps, do I need to host the leaflet map or I need to upload the grid files into mediawiki somehow? 🤔 [08:19:42] Can we turn my wiki to CC-NC-SA? [08:33:43] <.labster, replying to huannengqizhaban> Go to Special:ManageWiki/settings on your wiki, and in the Editing tab you can change the license. [08:35:04] hiiii labster [08:43:23] <.labster> hey Legroom [09:08:41] [1/3] ello guys I need some help [09:08:42] [2/3] What's the difference between the underlined two here? [09:08:42] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414175533922652190/image.png?ex=68be9d19&is=68bd4b99&hm=434b5c94b1b1bac8481576e3467c233cf468a9713657b427ba5e0a67563b2754& [09:10:55] [1/2] I don't know what (Main) means, and it has these other things too [09:10:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414176094067884102/image.png?ex=68be9d9e&is=68bd4c1e&hm=171c8c3235d0cd785fca55b4f5203beff336a26a9fa6f01a5a0adc71d4e30c46& [09:14:18] [1/6] wikis have namespaces, which is basically types of pages [09:14:18] [2/6] (Main) means main namespace and it's considered to be the real content of the wiki, it's articles pages w/o prefixes in their titles/URLs [09:14:18] [3/6] other namespaces get those prefixes [09:14:19] [4/6] File: is a namespace for files uploaded on wiki, if you uploaded an image called cover.png, there's will be a page for it called File:Cover.png w/ file info [09:14:19] [5/6] pages w/ Template: prefix are templates, in their own namespace, they have special behaviors [09:14:19] [6/6] and so on [09:15:02] so basically, yellow on your screenshot is Namespace and red is actual Title [09:15:43] My wiki is entitled "World of Verlasse", so if (Main) is the real content of the wiki then what's the wiki title namespace for? [09:17:29] [1/3] this namespace is called Project technically and it will use Title Of The Wiki as prefix [09:17:29] [2/3] it's usually reserved for information about the wiki itself, like About, rules, copyright info [09:17:29] [3/3] I personally also move main page of wiki into Project namespace so it won't mix up w/ articles [09:18:07] BBut [09:18:39] but if you do so, you need to change some settings so Main Page functionality continue to work [09:18:53] btw the Main Page I have currently is the autogenerated one, and I want to keep the content of it safe while also needing a place to reserve my actual wiki main page for it [09:19:05] #[RESOLVED] how to set a new wiki page as the wiki's main page? I tried this out [09:19:27] I haven't moved the autogen Main Page yet [09:20:06] okay, so you have new Main Page now set up? [09:20:12] yep [09:20:59] usually people create things like drafts, sandboxed or some long notes under their user pages [09:21:01] well it doesn't redirect vie the sidebar yet [09:21:24] wym by this [09:22:37] [1/3] User: is another namespace, it works like user profile [09:22:37] [2/3] my username is Legroom, i keep a sandbox for myself as User:Legroom/Sandbox [09:22:37] [3/3] in other words it's a subpage of my user profile [09:24:52] [1/2] can have different title, whatever [09:24:53] [2/2] you can either just copy all code of default main page for yourself on new user subpage, or just move it entirely by choosing User in yellow drop-down, and typing User:[Your username here]/[something here] in red field [09:26:06] [1/2] or you can move the page entirely by choosing User in yellow drop-down, and typing User:[Your username here]/[something here] in red field [09:26:06] [2/2] but after that you'll have to create new page called "Main Page" [09:27:30] ohhh that's how you type stuff in that red field [09:28:02] the move thing is basically renaming a page [09:28:55] for example in russian UI it's literally called "rename", and "move" is a rather technical term because you can change namespace here as well [09:29:34] that cleared up some stuff [09:29:38] so red field is basically new name [09:29:49] there's also bellow a flag [09:30:13] [1/2] I did the field stuff, but since this is the autogen Main Page from my wiki should I also toggle off the redirect toggle button? [09:30:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414180951696609321/image.png?ex=68bea225&is=68bd50a5&hm=db9ac0c9a237c589df22f27c1796bd3b4dac6326d51e5e1a1dc1f9baceea93a0& [09:31:03] [1/2] yes [09:31:03] [2/2] redirect means that after renaming the wiki will keep the old name link that will open newly named page [09:31:18] ah cool [09:31:48] btw, that would mean the new main page I have already made would be automatically linked to the sidebar? [09:31:55] or do I need to work on that still? [09:32:52] what's the title of your new "main page" and what MediaWiki:Mainpage has right now? [09:33:51] [1/2] This [09:33:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414181867501916311/image.png?ex=68bea2ff&is=68bd517f&hm=02e112f7f9563a2c2955ed336201d8784dfe0e6a726030b7a28521b633e05c79& [09:34:49] oh no, that's not it [09:35:29] MediaWiki: is another namespace, it defines some wiki settings [09:35:50] oh [09:35:52] 😭 [09:36:26] MediaWiki:Mainpage requires title of a page that will serve as such, and it will be used in sidebar and as logo link [09:36:38] default is just Main Page [09:36:53] which you want to rename right now [09:37:44] that means you need to create new "Main Page", w/ all that text you put on setting instead [09:37:55] after renaming [09:38:24] so firstly, create new wiki page titled "Main Page" [09:38:52] that's why i suggested copy/pasting first, it's kinda easier than all that [09:39:03] renaming and setting stuff [09:39:13] okkk [09:39:29] btw what I did here isn't like, too destructive or something? [09:39:51] since because apparently that's not the way to do it, and it is on the wrong page? [09:40:44] it just made sidebar and logo links non functional [09:41:17] I can't undo whatever I did at MediaWiki:Mainpage btw lol [09:43:51] [1/4] my suggestion [09:43:52] [2/4] * copy default main page code (via source editor) and paste to your new user subpage [09:43:52] [3/4] * move that text you've made on MediaWiki page to Main Page, which had default text [09:43:52] [4/4] * replace all that text on MediaWiki page w/ just "Main Page", like it was before [09:47:06] [1/2] like this for the first bullet? [09:47:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414185198790377482/image.png?ex=68bea619&is=68bd5499&hm=f464a35ebb38a27b82a237a7c965b57f4d6a6b380411b9ed68461b593a658133& [09:47:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414185298681790494/image.png?ex=68bea631&is=68bd54b1&hm=547e337ab9855c633f36e1106e01697f60cfd60de34d1c57314654d0e0303dbc& [09:50:35] [1/3] can be done like this yeah [09:50:35] [2/3] it's just User:RoyalAce is like basic userpage [09:50:36] [3/3] a subpage is created by adding `/...` after that in title, can be done via URL [09:50:53] for the time being can work too [09:51:01] some editors do that [09:53:01] ok did it [09:53:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414186747297927238/image.png?ex=68bea78a&is=68bd560a&hm=cdff1b1c06ef11d8d86eaea1aa2656fcedb26f6384c92ecaf73ca705402d8bab& [09:53:17] second bullet [10:15:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414192333930364929/image.png?ex=68beacbe&is=68bd5b3e&hm=00897230ab53293dd3ec57d9ec2b11d5313dc3ed31665559749906e351ba6060& [10:15:27] ok got it [10:28:26] [1/2] There's something wrong with polcompball wiki(I'm not the creator of this wiki) [10:28:27]