[00:45:20] A bit late of a reply but that was me putting to much load on the database servers. I apologize for that. [00:46:54] I will be updating all wikis that are marked as closed in about an hour, and whenever those finish, all wikis marked as inactive. [00:47:39] Then tomorrow (about 24 hours later) we will finalize the upgrade and all remaining wikis will be moved over. [00:50:20] [1/2] what does this mean? [00:50:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414412507220545677/image.png?ex=68bf79cc&is=68be284c&hm=f6ef7f83c71a4cc1b99f095cae1a6ffbf2949f760490e2aee604d77cbbd6eb5b& [00:50:49] You have to also disable MobileFrontend at the same time. [00:51:55] [1/2] ??? [00:51:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414412906631532615/image.png?ex=68bf7a2b&is=68be28ab&hm=6603b690e489d788cab9db2b112225683e197f91cbd5c895d46f156e1578a107& [00:52:06] nvm [00:52:08] weird glitches [00:52:46] That's odd... [00:53:35] got logged out? lol [00:53:38] maybe their wiki is private and they got logged out while changing settings? [00:53:56] you overtook me while I was typing :( [00:54:20] no its because I was using ctrl + F5 to refresh for skin [01:02:56] So how do I "adopt" a wiki? [01:06:23] skin isnt applying yet, maybe its just slow idk [01:20:48] [[User:Raidarr/Wiki adoption]] [01:20:48] [01:30:05] q\ [02:35:09] is there a way to preserve whitespace in a named template argument [02:40:27] I have begun MW 1.44 upgrade on closed wikis. [02:42:49] [1/3] Add `` (e.g. ```{{A|1= [02:42:50] [2/3] * Something [02:42:50] [3/3] }}``` [02:43:00] nice ty [02:46:06] hmmm [02:46:59] it seems that works for trailing whitespace (which is what I wanted anyway) if you place it after the whitespace [02:47:07] but it doesn't work at all for leading whitespace [02:47:30] wait no I'll need it for leading whitespace in a different example [02:48:23] oh wait no [02:48:26] it does work [02:48:35] it's a different limitation that was messing it up [02:49:08] that being that you can't seem to start a new line with whitespace [02:49:14] this doesn't affect me but it's interesting [04:09:20] [1/19] As a followup, I tried to implement this on Blue Archive Wiki and it was surprisingly short. [04:09:20] [2/19] ``` [04:09:21] [3/19] / Mobile responsive / [04:09:21] [4/19] @media (max-width: 600px) { [04:09:21] [5/19] .navbox th.navbox-group { [04:09:22] [6/19] display: block; [04:09:22] [7/19] min-width: 100%; [04:09:22] [8/19] max-width: 100%; [04:09:23] [9/19] text-align: center; [04:09:23] [10/19] box-sizing: border-box; [04:09:23] [11/19] } [04:09:23] [12/19] td.navbox-list { [04:09:24] [13/19] display: flex; [04:09:24] [14/19] / commented out due to centering issues / [04:09:25] [15/19] /align-items: center;/ [04:09:25] [16/19] /justify-content: center;/ [04:09:26] [17/19] } [04:09:26] [18/19] } [04:09:27] [19/19] ``` [04:09:36] Example page: https://bluearchive.wiki/wiki/Template%3ATrinity_General_School [08:05:28] Hi [08:39:15] Bonjour [09:29:16] Goedendag [10:47:00] Good day [10:50:00] is that the one where you put a space there and it preformats it [10:51:15] you can also use ` ` to put a space there without any of the whitespace stripping or preformatting [11:09:26] I suppose I could prob mention this in the documentation [11:36:27] [1/3] Meta's main page looks... different. Victim of MW upgrade? [11:36:27] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414575105530658897/image.png?ex=68c0113a&is=68bebfba&hm=1b0dfd57f7b4e945fabecda67e2cb73d207811654af0c5e9632f19bd4f94f457& [11:36:28] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414575106566389860/image.png?ex=68c0113a&is=68bebfba&hm=9c221f93c9cb0b3723d2b75457ca5d93e18571e7104ed464499140b5b82a47cb& [11:37:58] Oh I see. `

` had `display: flow-root` in the past and now has `display: inline`. [11:42:04] [1/8] In fact, the HTML structure changed. On Meta's `Special:ExpandTemplate`, `===Title===` expands to [11:42:04] [2/8] ``` [11:42:05] [3/8]

Title/h3/div [11:42:05] [4/8] ``` [11:42:05] [5/8] On a 1.43 wiki, the same wikitext expands to [11:42:06] [6/8] ``` [11:42:06] [7/8]

Title/span/h3 [11:42:06] [8/8] ``` [11:44:08] Yeah, they keep changing the format [11:44:11] MW never disappoints when it comes to making breaking changes. I'm still salty about them breaking tables and making me submit a patch myself for [T402066](https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402066). [11:44:14] they changed the image one too [11:44:22] I assume to make it more in line with what Parsoid generates [11:44:57] I think that was because
was more semantic HTML [11:47:58] [1/2] Gotta watch out for broken images on local wikis then. Unfortunately MH Monthly is 3 weeks away, otherwise I'd definitely write about possible breaking changes. [11:47:59] [2/2] There's still https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki/1.44, though maintaining such a page doesn't seem to attract much interest. [11:48:19] man [11:52:54] [1/6] I'm observing `figure` for 1.43 as well. [11:52:54] [2/6] ``` [11:52:55] [3/6] [[File:Miraheze Logo.svg]] [11:52:55] [4/6] [[File:WikiSEO SitemapPage.png|left|frameless|200x200px]] [11:52:55] [5/6] ``` [11:52:55] [6/6] The first one is `` and the second one is `
/img`. This happens to both 1.43 and 1.44 wikis. [11:55:42] [1/2] Yeah I'm pretty sure the media DOM is not that new [11:55:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414579953156231219/image.png?ex=68c015be&is=68bec43e&hm=a0d676519717ad9e93d06b8fb3dd4d75d7eedf04063c7215905fdf5ceedb9001& [11:58:57] [1/2] Fixed. One of the first times having admin privileges is very useful. [11:58:58] [2/2] The other times being deleting pages and blocking users. I think the number of pages I deleted on Meta is greater than my number of edits. [12:03:09] It's not an exact replica of what I'm seeing in Internet Archive. Section titles on the old main page have smaller bottom spacing compared with the top. Currently the amount of whitespace in both directions is almost the same. I like the new version better and I don't think most people would care either way. [12:04:05] Do any of y'all know any good YT tutorials to learn the MediaWiki stuff [12:09:16] do you know how to nowiki this [12:09:20] for documentation purposes [12:09:38] even inside nowiki tags it converts [12:09:42] `` [12:09:47] even inside codenowiki [12:09:52] it turns into a space [12:10:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414583611323187280/image.png?ex=68c01926&is=68bec7a6&hm=bd82f8de4ab83f5890c1dbd617830b5956bc63bf0f84614c247bd037b9aa8dc6& [12:10:56] &nbsp; [12:11:20] ty [15:44:09] Hello [15:46:18] How can i create a wiki [15:46:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWiki [15:46:49] Please read what is required [15:52:07] It didnt work [15:58:46] <_arawynn> It needs to be approved [16:18:43] Maybe we should update MediaWiki/1.44 with all major changes like we have with past MediaWiki versions but I just didn't have time/feel much like making it this time because I kinda wanted to just be done with the update but tbf I did forget about the dom changes this upgrade. [16:46:48] anyone else experiencing super slow miraheze? 😵‍💫 [16:54:35] -# servers in flame behind the scenes :catpeek: [16:55:12] [1/2] welcome back miraerror [16:55:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414655321367908513/image0.jpg?ex=68c05bef&is=68bf0a6f&hm=a45023668fa8234d2b101ce216cb8a7ef4fe2bf64cc18a0aa21e01b45b1c1b3a& [16:55:58] I wonder if it's cause the upgrade lol, I think it'd make sense for things to be a little rocky til that's completed [16:58:25] welp, it's been good while it lasted lol [16:58:25] [1/2] i will never give up... will continue to do wiki... [16:58:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414656089919590511/image0.jpg?ex=68c05ca6&is=68bf0b26&hm=6d9846b07424cbb3f096649085146227937efc22ffca05ad2cb99450482239e5& [16:58:31] I love it how the API is still working tho [16:58:42] Can still query the cargo tables, pretty cool [18:05:55] Hello, where can I get help? [18:07:27] welcome, ask here and we'll help or direct to more situated venue [18:10:29] I had that this morning too. Took 10 minutes than it was back to normal. [18:10:50] Just ask [18:33:02] I tried to register from Türkiye with the VPN turned off, but it didn't work. "Your IP address is in a range that has been blocked on all wikis. The block was made by metawiki>Agent Isai. The reason given is Web host or open proxy. Contact cvt[at]miraheze.org if affected." Please help. [18:33:56] Did you check whether your VPN really was off? [18:34:29] yes it is closed. [18:34:45] Then write a mail to cvt [18:34:46] cvt can create accounts, right? [18:35:33] Then write to cvt[at]miraheze.org and write what username you want to have. [18:35:56] okeu [18:35:58] okey [19:16:23] I sent an e-mail and wrote my IP address and the username I wanted, just in case. [19:17:59] Your account has been created - more info is in the email I sent [19:20:15] They emailed me the account password and name. Thank goodness. [19:23:59] MediaWiki does that automatically - if you didn't get the email I sent out, your account may still be affected by the global block for wikis you've never visited before; you can request that your account be manually attached to such wikis, or you can request a global IP block exemption so you don't have to worry about it anymore [19:29:55] I log in but it still gives the same error, it's like they're hostile towards me [19:37:48] Which wiki are you trying to edit? [19:41:31] ok [19:43:05] Use #verify to verify your account that was just created for you to your Discord account - this is a requirement for posting links, or you can just omit the https:// [19:46:33] okey [21:29:08] About 2.5 hours left until I will push all remaining wikis to MediaWiki 1.44. [21:32:19] I'm not aware of anyone making such a list of videos. [21:32:53] Ah alr [21:34:25] I'm thinking of producing some video guides myself, though there is no scheduled time for that to happen. [23:50:37] 10 minutes! [23:51:55] :D [23:51:57] T-10