[01:06:16] Can I get a a:joesplode: reaction in announcements [01:16:21] [1/2] @cosmicalpha DPL completely broken it seems, for example here: (fair warning, is a wiki for a NSFW game) [01:16:22] [2/2] And just gives some an error. [01:16:44] I will look in ~ 10 minutes [01:17:00] actually I'll look now lol [01:20:53] Disable and reenable and it should fix (or really just make any ManageWiki change) if you cant I can manually purge cache. [01:21:20] I purged on one server and connected through that server and it worked. [01:23:01] Yep, that worked 🙂 [01:30:12] Broken? [01:30:28] Did Miraheze just explode for anyone else [01:30:39] For about 20 seconds [01:30:44] It's back to normal for me now [01:30:51] Unbroken [01:30:59] Refreshed and it's good for me now [01:36:08] seems to have borked my dependency lists too but a null edit fixes it [01:39:04] It’s funny how this is in the top 3 most smoothest upgrades \:P [01:41:41] aw man all of my header styling is messed up with the upgrade [01:42:56] [1/2] Hmm, seems for some reason, using Timeless skin, the upgrade also added a "Navigation" header, with "Special pages" under it at the bottom of the sidebar (and it is not present at all indeed in `Special:Sidebar`), even under the Administration header, that bureaucrats see. Sure it wouldn't be hard to just display:none it to get rid of it, but that fact it exist at all, seems weird to [01:42:56] [2/2] me [01:43:44] probably the smoothest ever considering how many breaking changes. [01:43:53] probably so, I wouldn’t doubt [01:44:20] but the masses want to know: 🎤 Where is SUL3! [01:44:56] I plan to deploy SUL3 either tonight or tomorrow lol [01:50:10] Hello, I tried disabling and enabling DPL but it still isn't working and if I try editing a page (like this one for example ) only half it's fixed, is there anything else I can do or should I wait until it solves itself (things sometimes do that after mediawiki updates LOL)? :xsob: [01:51:46] Did you actually save, after disabling DPL, and then enable and save after that? [01:53:14] yes, or at least I do see the 2 changes on the managewiki log (I didn't change anything else so they wouldn't have been saved if I did something wrong i think) [01:54:35] I changed dpl4's and not dpl settings because that's what we had enabled (I didn't set up any of this) btw [01:55:35] Yeah that should be the one indeed, no idea then, as that worked for me [01:57:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414791733698498691/20250121_130859.jpg?ex=68c0dafa&is=68bf897a&hm=9eeb4fa2dfcff4349f98a6373894b1a0d50c9500bbac417bb9e02025a537e058& [01:57:39] @Discord Moderators [01:58:04] What a timing for a scam to show up xD [01:58:23] This is why i stay up late [01:58:53] [1/4] MediaWiki internal error. [01:58:53] [2/4] Original exception: [8f810cce7d1f2fe7f965298c] 2025-09-09 01:58:40: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" [01:58:53] [3/4] Exception caught inside exception handler. [01:58:54] [4/4] Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information. [02:02:34] 1/4 of our wikis affected. Down [02:04:34] https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Caladrio [02:04:37] [1/6] ``` [02:04:37] [2/6] Error 1054: Unknown column 'cst_wl_comment_id' in 'WHERE' [02:04:37] [3/6] Function: MediaWiki\Extension\CommentStreams\WatchHelper::isWatching [02:04:38] [4/6] Query: SELECT COUNT(*) AS `rowcount` FROM (SELECT 1 FROM `cs_watchlist` WHERE cst_wl_comment_id = 17094 AND cst_wl_user_id = 4 AND (cst_wl_comment_id IS NOT NULL) ) `tmp_count` [02:04:38] [5/6] ``` [02:04:38] [6/6] @cosmicalpha did you run the SQL for commentstreams yet? [02:05:02] maybe this happens in pages with comments [02:05:06] Ive been running for CS wikis I see in logs otherwise its still pending all other SQL [02:05:43] alr [02:06:23] strange, only happens in Caladrio. The one I am editing right now... [02:10:09] strange, the preview also loads... [02:15:42] [1/2] Because CommentStreams is broken, any page with non-zero comments will show an error. [02:15:42] [2/2] Previewing doesn't show comments, so it is spared. [02:20:06] Pages with comments look fine on the wiki I'm on [02:21:13] But looking at the CommentStreams log, it's no longer providing a direct link to the comment page. Instead, it just shows a link to the page the comment was made on [02:40:57] We have the same on our wiki. Did you get yours fixed? [02:41:03] https://got.miraheze.org/wiki/Item_Spawns [02:43:02] So a while back I asked about link suggest not working when syntax highlighting is turned on in Source Editor and was told that it'd work in MediaWiki 1.44. I tested it just now, and link suggest still does not work with syntax highlighting on, though it works fine with it off. Are there still updates to come that'll get this working? [03:36:21] no [03:36:35] what wiki again? [03:36:42] tuscriaturas [03:38:05] in progress [03:38:49] and done @jakeukalane [03:43:32] I think @pskyechology interpreted your question (autocompleting category links) as something else. LinkSuggest conflicts with syntax highlighting [when I tested extensions for 1.44](https://exttest.mirabeta.org/wiki/LinkSuggest). [03:44:38] [1/2] This feature seems to work pretty well on WikiEditor though. [03:44:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414818758727565393/image.png?ex=68c0f426&is=68bfa2a6&hm=26c853a4b372687d50a8449679c3dd3e3fc56adad61acab61e8d8b9eb235538f& [03:44:54] Ah, so there's no way to get it working? [03:45:34] But yeah I usually use LinkSuggest for category links, since the wiki has long category names. [03:45:41] It only supports main NS pages, which is unfortunate. [03:46:36] So inserting links probably isn't super helpful, since I'm adding a category in Source and not a link, haha. [03:47:07] Seems like a longstanding issue https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T300618. wiki.gg is probably interested in it as well since both river and alex subscribed to it. [03:48:57] it is, since there is no difference between category and link syntax [03:50:02] But won't it just create a link that we'll have to remove the colon for, to get it to go back to being a category? [03:50:22] I guess it still might be slightly faster than typing it all out by hand... 😅 [03:50:23] just tried it in the editor, no colon [03:51:46] Hm, is it an extension? I don't see it on the editor on our wiki 🤔 [03:52:04] just the default insert link button right after the italic button [03:52:17] annoyingly you do have to type out Category: first :( [03:52:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414820763642499093/image.png?ex=68c0f604&is=68bfa484&hm=de345c28aac8b891fff21e258a1434f271c819af6cfd647443d2ee33f8274230& [03:52:40] Oh I see it, sorry didn't realize it was just an icon, haha. Thanks! [03:52:48] Adding a namespace alias might help? [03:52:53] Lemme try it on Mirabeta [03:53:57] [1/2] Success [03:53:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414821104475705557/image.png?ex=68c0f655&is=68bfa4d5&hm=e35ed918351e173aec0019629e31a9ed3956d0b1cd407ccc3ca5544bf5249501& [03:54:23] You're right, it doesn't add a colon and seems to work fine. This could be a good workaround, thanks! [03:55:13] [1/2] Just need a bureaucrat to add this alias for the `Category` namespace. [03:55:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414821422026719273/image.png?ex=68c0f6a1&is=68bfa521&hm=9045040fe1b68023e1ddfffcb056987058b2932d97f6d487ed8141b9f2cfb1a1& [03:55:39] I'll ask, thanks! [03:58:53] wonder if something as short as C would work [03:59:25] only conflict I can think of would be interwiki [03:59:46] so something like mw would not work for the MediaWiki namespace [04:00:57] [1/3] Probably. This a `LocalSettings.php` I had a few years ago. These single-letter namespaces worked without problem. [04:00:57] [2/3] Someone did grill me over the choice of MW because of conflicts with the interwiki table. [04:00:58] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414822863999078491/image.png?ex=68c0f7f8&is=68bfa678&hm=4033127dedd50ab9f23fcd8638c8d1d15f5867501c0b2bdb86ded86ba67a07c4& [04:01:17] i leave [[C:]] [04:01:18]

[04:01:42] damn you commons [04:01:46] There's only one way to find out which one takes precedence. [04:03:41] Namespace aliases have higher priority than interwiki tables. [04:04:31] I won't be too worried about this conflict unless the wiki has a history of relying on the old commons interwiki prefix. [04:05:03] i think ive seen people try this with M: and Meta wins [04:06:30] I think that may have used to be the case but not sure if it still is. [04:06:49] seems solved [04:07:03] thank you [04:07:04] nice [04:08:23] Seems to be the same on MW 1.38. [04:14:49] That should be the case. `m:` should never be overwritten [04:22:29] [1/2] I think the update clashed with my CSS? It's not supposed to have that grey bar [04:22:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414828285182873601/image.png?ex=68c0fd05&is=68bfab85&hm=32c72b6f43736777a2817f0629f7f5f38a1e44622fc8074f33fd856d5e6e452a& [04:26:50] i did try using Inspect Element but I could not see what was actually causing it [04:31:17] [1/2] what the... [04:31:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414830498408304660/image.png?ex=68c0ff15&is=68bfad95&hm=8836ee71ae84dacc89e44947e1b80f7504ae74601e67eefa0dba78e12403f417& [04:33:09] huh [04:33:15] MediaWiki:Sidebar [04:33:38] probably an issue in there [04:34:08] [1/3] already checked sidebar the moment i noticed this [04:34:08] [2/3] it wasn't there before the wiki updated to 1.44 [04:34:09] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414831214350565386/image.png?ex=68c0ffbf&is=68bfae3f&hm=648e897e14f8318522c0211b723cb46068872e382d48c26e599ff730151bd8d3& [04:34:38] what skin are you using? [04:35:56] [1/2] Could be... [04:35:57] [2/2] `MediaWiki:-navigation` [04:36:14] [1/2] since i use cosmos [04:36:15] [2/2] MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation [04:36:55] [1/2] citizen, checked another wiki, had same thing, skin is likely the problem [04:36:55] [2/2] citizen-navigation doesn't exist [04:36:57] Cosmos has its own version of MediaWiki:Sidebar other skins mostly dont afik [04:37:29] [1/3] Check : [04:37:30] [2/3] MediaWiki:Citizen-navigation [04:37:30] [3/3] I had citizen skin at one point. It did have a random item in there that i didn't want. [04:37:49] it might be in MediaWiki:Sidebar [04:38:08] under some special placeholder header [04:38:13] [1/2] Good skin btw, ty for it. [04:38:13] [2/2] Still waiting for true darkmode and not invert, but i'm sure lots of people tell you that. [04:39:33] hey yeah well technically Cosmos is different whereas its configured and then based on light or dark colors the rest of the skin adapts to light or dark mode. I once tried to actually add a mode switch for it but it became complicated because it conflicted with the configured value. [04:41:11] ty for your insight. hope you find a way [04:41:26] Maybe I'll go back to it soon. [04:41:48] I have some work to do on it before MW 1.45 to make it keep working properly so maybe I'll try more at that point. [04:42:50] [1/2] hmm... [04:42:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414833405081817209/image.png?ex=68c101ca&is=68bfb04a&hm=d3b65f5af78f9dc2e7677af1d32d23cc8dee13ffe9cc834d6ce495d03e43f596& [04:43:28] [1/4] I enabled citizen skin on a throwaway wiki [04:43:28] [2/4] I noticed they have different classes (the two buttons) [04:43:29] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414833563031044106/image.png?ex=68c101ef&is=68bfb06f&hm=0cce484d268aa1a5188a8465a95a0b4d3793a09a1c81feba69cc51647ab07cd3& [04:43:29] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414833563660193792/image.png?ex=68c101ef&is=68bfb06f&hm=56e38e869915afe824c6d0b657d686db3a8eedee72119993876a1dea3e2a260c& [04:44:06] But yeah, same issue [04:44:23] [1/3] t-specialpages [04:44:23] [2/3] n-specialpages [04:44:24] [3/3] Maybe target them in css and delet [04:45:11] Where is that at? Also perhaps this is worth a note in announcements as a pretty major behavior change... I'll wait for now though but perhaps this and the changes to the DOM that will effect some CSS could use an announcement.... [04:45:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#Deprecation_warning_for_Skin::appendSpecialPagesLinkIfAbsent() [04:46:27] [1/2] template seems to have broken 😵 [04:46:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414834314406924288/image0.jpg?ex=68c102a2&is=68bfb122&hm=aeeef3570cc51d3c3c7bf11ac95d6fff1f49e55626bc05e1626bc7c320172c50& [04:46:45] [1/2] oh, i called it [04:46:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414834388788711446/image.png?ex=68c102b4&is=68bfb134&hm=28e9cd797a43df6f6e17b0572e98fbd177ec4ffd1c2272b2256c97b613a58ef5& [04:46:47] Ah so set MediaWiki:Specialpages-url to `-` [04:47:32] that fixed it [04:47:36] honestly this is an odd change... [04:49:11] oh what [04:49:14] did i miss something [04:50:22] Yes I rewrote and re-released DPL3 which is now DPL4 with far to many fixes and changes to even explain. One of which that template is no longer used so its removed by the update script. [04:51:26] oh man [04:51:29] I closed about 30 user reported bug reports and fixed other unreported bugs (and maybe introduced one or two that havent been found yet) its also better performance and much more modernized. [04:51:30] morning ... [04:51:49] It still adds the Specialpages automatically even when it's manually on Mediawiki:Sidebar? 🤔 Are they going to remove that automatic addition later?? [04:52:01] do you know what could be the issue with this then? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414834314406924288/image0.jpg?ex=68c102a2&is=68bfb122&hm=aeeef3570cc51d3c3c7bf11ac95d6fff1f49e55626bc05e1626bc7c320172c50& [04:52:29] uh yeah make any change to ManageWiki and see if it fixes it. [04:52:49] If you can't I can purge the cache on the servers. [04:54:12] Although I literally have been working on this MW 1.44 upgrade for14 hours near straight it has been one super long day so once I deal with these last little issues for the night im going to call it a night.... [04:55:57] Did you set it like ` specialpages-url|specialpages`? [04:56:32] ah no we used `Special:SpecialPages|Special Pages` I guess that's the issue [04:57:02] Ah yep probably then. [04:59:36] yup, changed the syntax, and it removes the automatic addition, so that was it [05:01:41] I just checked my CSS and I definitely used CSS to remove the bar, so IDK why it popped up again [05:02:28] They changed some of the HTML structure so some CSS needs to be adjusted for the new structure. [05:04:56] Anyway unless there is something really urgent (ping if so) I am off for the rest of the night [05:07:39] byeee [05:08:40] [1/2] only one of my wikis uses dpl [05:08:41] [2/2] and all wikis will need Special pages link tweak? pretty sure it always was in toolbar [05:09:44] Yeah its been moved from toolbar to sidebar [05:09:46] I've only seen this issue on the Citizen skin, was fixed using specialpages-url to - [05:09:58] Its all wikis. Not skin specific [05:10:41] [1/2] oh [05:10:41] [2/2] it was a lot more noticeable on citizen since toolbar and navigation panel are placed in between each other [05:10:56] Maybe that's it yeah. [05:11:05] i just woke up 15min ago [05:22:10] [1/2] Does anyone know how to fix this? (Fyi I don't have editinterface right, but I'll ask the crats to fix it) [05:22:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414843304067203163/Screenshot_20250909-121232.jpg?ex=68c10b02&is=68bfb982&hm=f8421b35c57f6296623c3aec7a00584a68c50920c7e4b22dc7538a6520332da3& [05:27:15] [1/2] Set https://wm.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Specialpages-url to - [05:27:15] [2/2] as a temporary fix [05:28:50] Ah alright, thanks! [05:36:10] ok i double-checked, and it's true; somehow citizen seems to have two special pages links regardless; I guess it's built into citizen somehow [05:37:05] @atxatx ^ is that an issue with citizen? [06:15:04] [1/2] only upload left and is now just empty block when logged out lol [06:15:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1414856616204959834/Screenshot_20250909-101400.png?ex=68c11768&is=68bfc5e8&hm=484e1c3883f2289ffe186b9f540cde494f08d981e08d5d108273dc4a0b4ad62d& [06:15:19] id rather keep special pages in tools [06:15:33] otherwise will have to go w/ admin links i guess [06:16:39] why are you still not sleeping?? [06:16:40] It might have been changed due to things with 1.45 like Special:SpecialPages is completely redesigned and stuff so I guess they are moving with changing related stuff around. [06:16:58] its only midnight lol [06:17:32] shortened urls are there if you have that turned on [06:17:41]