[00:00:08] Either here or #support indeed. The more complex the issue, the better #support gets (Mainly if, noone around right away, it risk getting flooded away in here, as other chat happens) [00:00:36] Thank you! [00:06:50] [1/8] Use [00:06:51] [2/8] ``` [00:06:51] [3/8] .mw-heading { [00:06:51] [4/8] color: white; [00:06:52] [5/8] } [00:06:52] [6/8] ``` [00:06:52] [7/8] instead. Note that this affects all headings, not just `h1` and `h2`. [00:06:53] [8/8] Alternatively, use `.mw-heading h1` and `.mw-heading h2`. [00:07:38] thanks [00:07:54] did anything change in the mediawiki update? [00:08:02] cause I'm confused as to why this stopped working [00:08:43] Yes, headings are all encapsulated in a div now [00:10:47] ah [00:10:49] fun [00:16:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PetraMagna/Help:How_to_use_the_visual_editor [00:17:23] I see. Should be simple enough. Not sure why the WMF people aren't doing that themselves. Maybe they don't want to go through all the QA steps listed in the Phab task? [00:18:18] This issue only occurs on Minerva. I didn't look into why that's the case though. Forcing `width: 100% !important` on Minerva is probably the main problem. [00:34:15] Cheaper to wait for someone from the community to get annoyed and do it for them. [00:34:27] Which is how a lot of MediaWiki development happens recently [00:39:27] I fell for this trap thanks to the `width: 100%` nonsense. [01:48:45] They don't need to (and won't) do QA for release branches [01:48:51] They don't do it because they have no reason to [01:49:20] And as OA mentioned, the community does stuff like this anyways if WMF doesn't [01:50:50] Disabled it [01:51:52] Did it fix the issue? [01:52:29] Might need to clear your cache too [01:52:49] It did not unfortunately [01:52:54] good idea [01:53:50] its fixed for me btw [01:54:22] Hey, so i've been messing with tables, and I can't seem to get the top caption centered? Ive been trying everything from the help page but its always staying on the left side of the table [01:55:13] RemoveRedlinks is broken on 1.44 yeet [01:55:56] Yeah, I tried removing cache on the wiki, and if you mean browsing cache then that didn't work [01:56:20] [1/2] working for me [01:56:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415153890118336542/Screenshot_2025-09-10_at_02.56.13.png?ex=68c22c43&is=68c0dac3&hm=2564c6e47ea3110e3f685afcd99af876406846ef613b3d1cb7bcae1df06e33df& [01:57:45] Huh, at least it's working for others, not for me somehow [01:59:19] probably something up with my PC for right now, let me try my phone [02:01:24] b [02:01:54] oops my bad was just testing how this thing works (i'm squidenial) [02:02:16] Ok, it is working for me now, I am able to use visual edit, see categories, etc. Must’ve been my PC acting like garbage for the day. [02:41:31] [1/3] Hello! I've noticed that the [DummyFandoomTags](https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:DummyFandoomMainpageTags&useskin=vector) is broken on my home wiki, the [My Life as a Teenage Rabbot Wiki](https://mlaatrabbot.miraheze.org/wiki/My_Life_as_a_Teenage_Rabbot_Wiki) because the tags aren't working for me. I also tried clearing out my cache and my browser's star [02:41:32] [2/3] tup cache, it still does not work as intended after my wiki was updated 1.44 after checking ``[[Special:Verison]]`` and on the home page. I also checked via an incognito window, and it's the same ordeal. Is there any reason why the extension's not working, or is just some form of MediaWiki hiccup over here? Feel happy to ping me on it, since I'm usually active on my home wik [02:41:32] [3/3] i about 24/7-ish. If needed, I can open up a support thread. [02:45:03] Only on your wiki or is that just where you noticed [02:46:16] That was where I've noticed it, since I'm usually the one that edits there every other day. I've noticed shortly earlier today after the upgrade. [02:55:03] (progress is being made on the infobox side at least, as I understand) [02:55:17] ight, let me see who was the one who tested the extension on 1.44 [02:56:54] All righty. 👍🏻 [02:59:29] oh dpl is also automatically upgraded from 3 to 4 [03:00:09] do i have to do any adaptation? [03:00:16] [1/2] on second thought maybe ill jsut test it myself rq [03:00:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415169978151338147/Screenshot_20250909_225941.png?ex=68c23b3f&is=68c0e9bf&hm=d25c4dd191940fc142965d97a46eca839f34428061a0866e57147948dedbff71& [03:00:24] i think its backwards compatible [03:00:41] i see [03:00:53] i still have to move Category:Pages using DynamicPageList3 parser function to Category:Pages using DynamicPageList4 parser function [03:01:01] Go for it. [03:02:02] [1/2] > This is a continuation/rewrite of Extension:DynamicPageList3. It is a fully reworked code base, with significant code and database speed improvements, and is designed to be fully backward compatible with previous versions. It fixes numerous bugs and adds more features then previous versions and makes the extension more maintainable and secure by converting to [03:02:02] [2/2] MediaWiki's SelectQueryBuilder for example. This version is still experimental and a work-in-progress. Please report any issues you encounter with it. [03:03:34] and create Category:Pages using DynamicPageList4 with hiddencat magic word. i've not seen anything else that doesn't function well yet [03:04:36] [1/2] It's me. I only did a very simple test case though. [03:04:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415171071685951488/image.png?ex=68c23c44&is=68c0eac4&hm=77c41d74ab89142d8e9e53c551978c2cd214d9e99c4434c040efb697bf803007& [03:05:49] Hm, wanna try importing Wicker's page onto beta and seeing if it works? [03:06:05] btw dplforum doesn't depend on dpl any version right? it also functions well [03:06:46] Mirabeta is on 1.45 right now. Currently most pages don't work due to TemplateStylesExtender being broken. I'll see what I can do with it. [03:08:20] dang it [03:08:29] Oof. [03:10:52] [1/2] Basic case works. Let's see what happens for a complicated main page. [03:10:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415172648647921694/image.png?ex=68c23dbc&is=68c0ec3c&hm=138aeb931747b366f887a2b5d84dbc03c0a387ea85fa5dfdbf555f3a49989c89& [03:11:59] is it possible to remove User:DynamicPageList3_extension from special:listusers? since its only edit (to Template:Extension DPL) has now been deleted by Maintenance script and it doesn't make more sense in the user list [03:12:27] where are those buttons from [03:13:37] [1/2] @wickerbasket2540 Is this what it's supposed to be like? [03:13:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415173339508641865/image.png?ex=68c23e60&is=68c0ece0&hm=a813de8e58e038faef302dce8ec5df5b18be84be14eb397bf5ddcdbfea9d3df2& [03:14:28] A gadget that gives bureaucrats two buttons to toggle extensions. [03:14:35] I must have the CosmosTweaks gadget enabled and forgot to remove it, whoops. I'll remove it right now. [03:15:14] must have missed that, awesome idea [03:16:49] But yes, that's what it's supposed to look like, so I guess it's probably just me. I also tried getting the Discord widget to work, but never really gotten around to doing it, so I just gave up and resorted to using a template for this. [03:18:54] ot just you [03:19:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415174721426817064/Screenshot_20250909_231859.png?ex=68c23faa&is=68c0ee2a&hm=77adc28251a28ab760ec632275eac106f6a5ec27826a8339f7a4c87624367003& [03:19:31] [1/2] Something inserted `width: 100%` for the left column. Removing it works. I'm not sure where it came from though. [03:19:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415174823210127420/image.png?ex=68c23fc2&is=68c0ee42&hm=db308214631928ff6705df8ccf0204fb1e65613e497d1668201c19a6e307efee& [03:19:36] The 1.44 upgrade has completely finished. All SQL/database upgrades have finally completed now. [03:20:04] Which means all those CommentStreams issues should also be fixed. [03:20:09] [1/8] Having something like this on your main page probably fixes it. [03:20:09] [2/8] ``` [03:20:10] [3/8] @media only screen and (min-width: 1024px) { [03:20:10] [4/8] div.main-page-tag-lcs-exploded { [03:20:10] [5/8] width:calc(100% - 320px) [03:20:11] [6/8] } [03:20:11] [7/8] } [03:20:11] [8/8] ``` [03:20:36] I'm not even sure, either. I checked my wiki's CSS, and I don't see it. [03:21:08] I'll apply it to my wiki's Cosmos.css page and add in a comment crediting you for it. [04:49:52] Is there a change log for dpl4? [04:50:35] And a change log for miraheze? [05:21:18] https://github.com/Universal-Omega/DynamicPageList3/releases start at alpha.1 to alpha.5 and that is the changelog. [06:11:41] [1/2] having a little css trouble with my link colors. The redlinks either turn the same color as created page links, or I make them red and unvisited pages become red too [06:11:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415218153302003773/image.png?ex=68c2681d&is=68c1169d&hm=dd084b9a06ab065e89811a2106f921467cd39453187cc594c58c91fb99ec7744& [06:14:27] Do you have a link to your wiki where this is happening? [06:15:31] https://mintysocs.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [06:17:39] i'm pretty amateur with CSS, so it's probably something I bungled [06:30:00] Same thing with me as well, since I've been trying to skin my infoboxes like what I had on my Fandoom wiki. [06:36:56] [1/2] i uh. am not sure how but I refreshed the page and now these links are invisible. when I hover over them they're blue [06:36:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415224505743314964/image.png?ex=68c26e07&is=68c11c87&hm=23200913e3eafaea12401ef4e84da3a70696476b43982c214869350c5c6a94bd& [06:39:48] How did you manage to do that? 😭 [06:41:16] I DON'T EVEN KNOWWWW [06:41:22] Trying one more edit to my CSS [06:43:51] All right. I usually do it via my browser's developers tools, and it helps out a lot. [06:44:38] MHMHM, I use inspect element to test things out and it usually works [06:45:25] Same here! Especially with clearing out my cache and whatnot. [06:46:40] [1/2] okay these red links are working at least [06:46:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415226954998743132/image.png?ex=68c2704f&is=68c11ecf&hm=aca8b0d198bbddd480b13d672c5d673f2946ccef530d1fb21fb950dfa669abe5& [06:47:33] That's good to know. [06:47:38] GOOD NEWS [06:47:59] [1/2] NO LONGER INVISIBLE [06:47:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415227287518973962/image.png?ex=68c2709e&is=68c11f1e&hm=8b75633551ab9cf53d6d7fd32fd10f1c5e90650728523ffb4953a0bd1b7f0274& [06:55:33] external links are still blue when I hover over them but ykw, i'm just gonna ignore it [06:57:47] It'll do. [07:15:29] It's been a day and hasn't resolved yet [07:27:11] it's better to test in user css [07:43:51] No it is not if it is still broken something is wrong. [07:45:01] What's the exception ID you get (the random string of characters in the exception)? [07:52:44] It changes each time [07:52:56] Currently looking at 821dccb38e59dc4f935e7ea8 [08:12:45] Should be fixed [08:13:22] If not could you please give me another exception id, as I did fix that one but its possible another issue could still exist. [08:23:54] [1/2] apparently i did not [08:23:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415251423196876820/image.png?ex=68c28719&is=68c13599&hm=e3fa6ed272ec4056dd44a02ecf2977d42d45425b3fa7c53de19c79e4a01c614a& [08:24:06] though some wikis had it turned on by default [08:28:34] [1/2] nevermind, i think this feature is the one [08:28:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415252602177978440/image.png?ex=68c28832&is=68c136b2&hm=9320bb263f6218f781c6a124ffee1f90dd6180ed5820377a1bce2e678cb5cd6f& [08:56:21] [1/2] Still broken [08:56:21] [2/2] 9672f4a91138db1d55c7a539 [08:56:39] looking [09:01:05] How about now? [09:02:08] [1/2] Still broken, unfortunately [09:02:08] [2/2] e12bb64d94c59714047a2a6e [09:11:11] Fixed again [09:13:12] That worked, thanks so much! [09:24:18] No problem glad it finally worked. [09:32:26] I requested a wiki about five minutes ago, but it didn’t show up in the farmer log. Should I try again? [09:37:50] til we have 3d viewer? [09:40:07] [1/2] hmmm [09:40:07] [2/2] so i have 1 page using dpl [09:40:34] [1/2] and it got red categories added [09:40:34] [2/2] okay, i created them and made hidden so they won't irritate me [09:40:53] but once i created them, that page broke [09:44:38] ok managewiki cahnge fixed it [10:14:32] Late to the party but the issue with this is if you're using Cosmos [10:15:15] They changed the structure of the tags upstream and Cosmos copies the styling but is using the old CSS rather than the new CSS so it overrides the extension [10:15:29] Its a cosmoscissue [10:26:42] that’s pretty easy fix [10:27:22] whatever css you have for link color, you could duplicate it and apply on a:visted I think [10:28:52] [1/2] :PensiveBreadCowboy: already did that [10:28:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415282874017644565/image.png?ex=68c2a463&is=68c152e3&hm=4a6df391eb3279b370db374684bbeb2f3ad05eba7b64801b95233d937b52986d& [10:45:49] i hate mediawiki [10:49:16] 503... [10:49:47] [1/2] Well that happened [10:49:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415288136707211285/Screenshot_20250910-174929.png?ex=68c2a94a&is=68c157ca&hm=4a037b01c4045bd2672438e79283a89613d5c83fa720d9e9ebdf0823cde9566f& [10:50:08] #tech-ops [10:50:42] Aware [10:51:09] AVID's down too. [10:51:18] Everything is [10:51:53] Oh. So it's not just me, huh [10:52:38] Can another @Technology Team please depool db151 [10:52:59] Still waiting for that "unscheduled maintenance" notice [10:53:13] damn, my blåhaj cuddling session 💔 [10:53:25] Sorry [10:54:56] mwdeploying [10:55:28] mwdeployed [10:57:42] I lost like 2 minutes of my progress 😡 [10:57:49] Bad Miraheze!!!!!! [10:58:50] miraheze is a certified baddie [10:59:25] do the servers have black nail polish [10:59:44] can always give them some [11:00:00] hence why i asked [11:01:47] uh hi good day, i was working on a wiki and stuff pooped [11:01:49] anyone know what's going on- [11:02:03] Not particularly, no. [11:02:08] We're thinking about it [11:03:12] Sounds like the UK government [11:03:19] Sorry I'm just adding confusion to the issue [11:03:36] -# edit recovery 👀 [11:03:42] [1/2] just asking, went to edit my tabletop stuff and suddenly hit with this [11:03:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1415291642029670530/image.png?ex=68c2ac8e&is=68c15b0e&hm=a825fa3c22ca252add6c5574eaef3c57670e235bd51216938fa8e9ab442e9617& [11:03:45] It's enabled yeah [11:04:01] But will it survive the wrath of unscheduled maintenance? [11:04:04] girl your work is saved then dont worry a:be_catcheerleader: [11:04:53] we should be back now [11:05:05] WE ARE SO BACK CHAT [11:05:23] we are back! [11:05:26] thank you c: [11:05:42] And my edits survived too! [11:05:52] Blahaj saving the day again [11:06:20] https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-shonk-attack-camera-dive-shark-gif-14344361424253681658 [11:08:33] also is there a donator role? [11:08:39] donated 10$ ages ago- [11:13:41] I'd be offended by the comparison [11:15:09] Well Rhinos works for the civil service which is the irony 😛 [11:15:19] I mean you're a contractor [11:15:33] You work for government. Just with a middle man in there. [11:15:49] We're probably worse than the government tbf [11:16:28]