[00:44:52] [1/3] Wanted to update: [00:44:53] [2/3] So after much fiddling, I figured out that it was as simple as doing this ;-; [00:44:53] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1429269033215197357/image.png?ex=68f58604&is=68f43484&hm=583a7f324c44973e6534db7b1524ea5852c03072c414f20dd4cd420dff4b6e74& [08:43:07] whenever i try to upload an image i get the "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination" how do i fix (im using a different host) [09:16:51] This is miraheze support [09:16:56] Please try the mediawiki server [09:17:16] okay [13:28:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Common_errors_and_symptoms#Unable_to_save_thumbnail_to_destination [13:35:27] how do i insert a link into a table? [13:35:33] [1/16] ```{| class="wikitable" id="testtable" style="margin: auto;" [13:35:34] [2/16] |+ Bottom Table [13:35:34] [3/16] |- [13:35:34] [4/16] |-style="background-color: #60a3eb; color: #000;" [13:35:34] [5/16] ! colspan="2" style="background-color: #60a3eb; color: #000;" | Example [13:35:35] [6/16] |- [13:35:35] [7/16] | Example || Example • Hello World /a [13:35:35] [8/16] |- [13:35:36] [9/16] | Example || Hello World • Hello World [13:35:36] [10/16] |- [13:35:36] [11/16] | Example || Example [13:35:37] [12/16] |- [13:35:37] [13/16] | Example || Hello World Hello World [13:35:38] [14/16] |- [13:35:38] [15/16] | Example || Hello World Hello World [13:35:39] [16/16] |}``` [13:35:39] this doesnt work [13:35:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1429463062229815306/image.png?ex=68f63ab8&is=68f4e938&hm=e94d6b99943a30be51ec58fd915d08a46cbd053ca4cb66b303d6e44aaad9182e& [13:36:14] [[link]] or [external link]? [13:36:15]

[13:37:09] i want the "hello world" to link to the main page [13:37:33] so you can click on hello world and that will take you to another page [13:37:47] ```[[Main Page|Hello World]]``` should work unless there's something im missing here. [13:39:02] ohh [13:39:02] ok [13:39:03] that works [13:39:03] thabks [13:39:27] glad to here [13:40:11] oh [13:40:15] thats odd [13:40:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1429464220189200547/image.png?ex=68f63bcc&is=68f4ea4c&hm=1a0216405d50e4d21c09062f7893079ea5dd1f94cf056496c49b3b36054d27b0& [13:40:41] how come my hyperlink is dark blue and not light purple? [13:41:02] i have this code in the css for hyperlinks [13:41:03] [1/6] a { [13:41:04] [2/6] color: #e06df7; [13:41:04] [3/6] } [13:41:04] [4/6] a:hover, a:visited { [13:41:04] [5/6] color: #f7e06d; [13:41:05] [6/6] } [13:41:18] so that should also affect this right? [13:48:54] ```| Example || Example • [https://newdawnmodwiki.newdawnmodwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Hello World]``` [13:49:07] for reference this is how i created the hyperlink [13:49:17] so it should be purple instead of blue right? [13:49:37] external links have their own default colours that you also need to deal with [13:49:42] hold on [13:49:54] this is something i want to link on to my wiki [13:50:00] [1/3] .mw-parser-output a.extiw, .mw-parser-output a.external { [13:50:01] [2/3] your colours [13:50:01] [3/3] } [13:50:01] so i want this to link to a page i already created [13:50:05] oh [13:50:07] thats hosted on my wiki [13:50:15] then use an internal link [13:50:24] although i'm very confused what that link is [13:50:45] are you just linking the main page [13:50:53] yeah [13:50:54] for now [13:51:00] im just trying to link it to the main page [13:51:03] as a test [13:51:04] [[Main Page|Hello World]] [13:51:25] that worked [13:51:26] thanks [16:39:00] @Meta Administrators Hi! Can an administrator delete my user page on Meta (User:Ambetts) to make way for the Login site page? [16:41:20] Add the {{delete}} template and I’ll check it out [16:41:21]

[16:42:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Ambetts?curid=91916&diff=496991&oldid=496901 [16:43:07] Done [16:43:31] Thank you! [16:56:28] [1/3] I'll help the first 10 people interested on how [16:56:28] [2/3] to start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram username @JamesRichard057 [16:56:28] [3/3] Or The telegram link in my bio [16:56:48] I forget what the moderator role is. [16:57:11] @Discord Moderators (I think this is the right ping?) [16:57:12] <_arawynn> @Discord Moderators [16:57:16] Oops [16:57:17] Sorry [16:57:20] Double ping. [16:57:29] Already done [18:46:45] waiting for the day we get an "Any" option in Special:RandomWiki [19:16:41] hey, what's miraheze's stance in regards to independent wikis? [19:17:11] since it seems a lot of fandom wikis have been forking away as of late, think this is rather important to address [19:18:57] Could you clarify what you mean by independent wikis? [19:21:22] i guess probably like wikis that already forked from fandom? [19:25:01] Plenty of miraheze wikis are ex-fandom, no? [19:25:14] Don't think there's anything specific about independent wikis [19:25:29] just the normal content policy [19:25:41] I know you need permission from a wiki community to fork away, I can't remember there being anything else. [19:26:17] <90gq29> yeah same thing regardless of what you fork from [19:26:34] <90gq29> so long as it doesnt already have a wiki on miraheze or youre tryna do a hostile takeover [19:26:41] <90gq29> u should be good [19:26:54] what if it is a hostile takeover? [19:27:07] <90gq29> something something miraheze rules [19:27:14] <90gq29> check the policy for wiki approvals [19:27:22] <90gq29> i think its in there but im not certain [19:27:46] <90gq29> if it already exists on miraheze its a no go though [19:28:02] forking is my miles will be smoother when community supports it [19:28:27] Pretty sure it's already in one of the policies. [19:28:44] This too, but I thought I remembered something in one of the policies about needing permission to fork. [19:29:06] I don't remember most of the content ones in any detail because I double checked they were all fine and didn't memorise them. [19:29:07] i still wonder why people are pro-fandom [19:29:26] Ubiquity and SEO, probably. [19:29:35] not just hostile but without asking the original fandom community anyways and just asking for fork help by cc by sa alone? [19:30:15] I don't understand what you're asking. [19:30:28] what is your situation? [19:30:57] <90gq29, replying to wilddreemurr> if you're trying to move a community from fandom ideally just talk to them first [19:31:18] person did not do that. [19:31:27] <90gq29> didnt want to fork? [19:31:33] did not ask the community. [19:31:39] <90gq29> well why not [19:31:43] <90gq29> theres no reason not to ask [19:31:55] dunno, they just didnt. [19:32:05] <90gq29> oh wait [19:32:16] <90gq29> are you talking about someone else forking your fandom wiki? [19:32:54] someone's mass importing articles from an already migrated and independent wiki. [19:33:02] <90gq29> which wiki are we talking about [19:33:19] <90gq29> & whats the situation, are you an admin of it? [19:33:33] <90gq29> or just a community member [19:33:48] community member. [19:33:53] hmmmm [19:34:08] <90gq29> it depends what the original wiki is licensed under i think [19:34:12] <90gq29> im not really sure [19:34:21] this is generally uncool behaviour but is technically not prohibited, if licence allows [19:34:51] Also, is this to or from Miraheze (or neither, in which case you'd need to ask one of the relevant hosts)? [19:35:43] person is importing the independent wiki articles to miraheze. [19:37:03] wait isn't the independent wiki on miraheze already? [19:38:16] the person who made the miraheze wiki without asking the community is now importing newer content from the independent one. [19:39:10] where's the independent one, on fandom or selfhost [19:39:15] self hosted. [19:39:23] forked off of fandom already. [19:42:40] [1/5] - There is a XYZ fandom wiki to begin with. [19:42:41] [2/5] - Most community members agree to make a self hosted XYZ ind. wiki off of fandom and have moved. [19:42:41] [3/5] - One person decided to make another fork of the original XYZ fandom wiki on mh, let's call it XYZ mh wiki. So there are now two forks of the original XYZ fandom wiki: ind. and mh [19:42:41] [4/5] - The person started to import content from XYZ ind. wiki to XYZ mh wiki now, and thus you came here to see if we can help with anything [19:42:42] [5/5] is it? [19:44:35] something like that. [19:44:43] Regardless of licensing that feels underhanded. [19:45:09] there's still active editors on the independent wiki as well. [19:45:20] if the licensing terms have no conflict perhaps it's totally legal [19:46:04] e.g. both the ind. and mh wiki use cc by-sa 4.0 and the import has proper attribution [19:46:39] but it's really kinda disgusting [19:46:47] that's what happened. [19:47:59] can only blame them from a moral perspective [19:48:41] three wikis competing for google seo [19:49:01] yeah, what i said, frowned upon but possible [19:49:18] didnt think "wiki farm" would be literal. [19:50:02] also yeah rip seo, but honestly i suggest to not care about google [19:50:31] but its other peoples writing being used against the core community. [19:51:06] have you or indy wiki admins tried to talk w/ that person? [19:51:15] does mh have policy against mirror wikis? [19:51:28] i remember there's one against a wikipedia mirror [19:51:34] but not other probably [19:51:51] miraheze base seo is honestly really weak, in your case fandom just will continue to dominate google [19:52:09] its a recent fork though. [19:52:17] no, wikimedia projects is the only no-no [19:52:42] could try but the miraheze wiki owner is potentially hostile given how they acted on wikipedia. [19:53:23] i don't guarantee a report will help [19:53:43] bad faith might be considered, aggressive behavior would be a reason for block [19:53:54] on miraheze [19:54:18] they were flagging as bad faith on the rfc they were aggressively posting on in wikipedia. [19:54:45] what wikipedia has to do in this? [19:54:54] same user basically. [19:54:59] also community related [19:55:25] because the article was related to the same content. [19:56:08] this is confusing [19:57:18] its bad and idk if ive seen any wikis deal with this kind of nonsense before. [19:58:04] but... i can try to talk with the admin of that miraheze wiki. [19:58:20] but i cant even register my username because its split between fandom and the independent one. [20:32:22] Part of why I prefer All Rights Reserved tbh [20:36:44] also was asking because i noticed wiki.gg happens to cite at the bottom of pages that theyre from fandom and such. [20:37:38] wiki.gg also had a stance that factored a fanbase's community as well. [20:43:20] i think under cc licenses if they import from special:import the attribution should already be on the history page, which is also a reasonable place to credit original authors, like page bottom:ThinkingHardMH: [20:44:34] do they have an interwiki to the independent wiki on the history pages? [20:45:20] Sorry to interject. Hoping somebody from a global group might be watching and able to tell me why [[Special:AbuseFilter/19]] also targets longtime, well established and confirmed users [20:45:21]

[20:45:47] it's a bit aggressive imo [20:46:30] What’s the wiki [20:46:43] doesn't really matter, it's a global filter [20:46:47] osuwiki tho [20:47:36] it justs lists the name of the independent wikis. [20:48:01] what's the independent wiki's and the miraheze wiki's license? [20:48:55] same. cc by sa 4.0. [20:49:04] What’s the user [20:49:25] It's mine, Dross [20:49:30] The filter explicitly does not affect users with the skipcaptcha right(aka autoconfirmed) [20:49:42] Do you recall changing that right anywhere? [20:49:52] problem being, a well established user might not have autoconfirmed on every wiki [20:49:56] that's why it's excessive [20:50:12] cc by-sa 4.0 legalcode section 3(a)(1)(A)(v): a URI or hyperlink to the Licensed Material to the extent reasonably practicable [20:50:27] I'm not an admin on osuwiki but I have my share of global contributions and activity on meta [20:50:34] i think it's reasonably practicable for them to add a link to the independent wiki [20:51:12] That isn’t counted [20:51:23] It looks for the right on the wiki the filter is being checked on [20:51:30] That's exactly the problem I'm citing. It's why I'm saying the filter is overly aggressive [20:51:52] Poorly constructed filter for a global scope [20:52:27] Your problem users being caught by the filter are not going to be global users with 50+ edits, much less 500 [20:52:27] Hm [20:53:04] Honestly, given the bar for AC being so low, I don’t think it’s very much of an issue, but I can see where you’re coming from [20:53:17] I disagree with the bar of 50 edits globally but regardless [20:53:27]