[00:35:51] for me whenever i enter a page small is always the sefa [00:35:54] default [00:35:58] tf is a sefa [01:09:23] oh its "text" in Special:Preferences under the appearance tab [03:09:40] A good place to start would be to send GitHub PRs for config changes. [06:16:52] whats the mediawiki page name that allows you to automatically place a file summary [06:21:45] there's for licenses (that become part of file description afterwards) but not descriptions themselves [06:21:55] either way it's template based [06:22:18] unless you talk about mass uploading, that I don't know [06:22:19] Without tasks? [06:31:21] Upon seeing tasks like https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13708 [06:32:43] Well, the problem is, I need a test environment! One that is the same as the entire Miraheze wiki farm! [06:33:55] You do not need that for simple config changes. [06:35:29] It's just a matter of imitating the existing setup and adding a few lines. The person reviewing your changes has access to the farm and can deploy those changes to a test environment to see how it goes. [06:36:56] For example, I've done PRs like https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/commit/2224d24fe8828a3392c940728523ad4d8a00bb98 without access to Miraheze infrastucture. [06:39:01] There are also tasks like https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14430 which only require a local MediaWiki install to test and fix, though it could be quite involved in terms of the amount of php required. [06:42:07] most extensions and configurations behave exactly as they would in a local installation [06:44:17] [1/2] like this [06:44:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432620971810095155/image0.jpg?ex=6901b7c0&is=69006640&hm=23acfb04d6729d5aeac41c9b9f319dc8adbc5d73df568745620d2356830bbc8a& [09:45:32] But then I would have to set up an entire wiki farm! That's what the configuration is aimed at! [09:45:56] And yet not all of them [09:46:00] And yet not all of them [09:56:20] MediaWiki:Upload-default-description [09:57:38] > The person reviewing your changes has access to the farm and can deploy those changes to a test environment to see how it goes. [10:02:22] unless you're doing some insane changes to caching (which even I wouldn't touch), your local install will rarely ever behave differently in terms of configuration settings [10:04:46] And you think it would be a good idea to spend days or weeks discussing this just because an SRE is allowed to test it again and again? [10:05:15] Because my pure MW instance also knows all WikiFarm wikis? [10:05:23] Without all configs of Miraheze [10:05:43] that's the point, it doesn't need to [10:06:35] ? [10:06:46] Still can't follow [10:07:04] If I want/need to change the configurations of wikis in the farm [10:07:06] If I want/need to change the configurations of wikis in the farm... [10:07:18] If I want/need to change the configurations of certain wikis in the farm... [10:20:53] then you should look up how we do that https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/main/LocalSettings.php [10:21:33] I already know that, because there are also all the local configuration overrides for all the farm wikis. [10:22:05] and for that you need only know the subdomain or database name [10:26:22] And how do you expect me to test changes if the subdomain doesn't point to my server? [10:26:41] Well... although... I could try replacing it with another one... [10:26:43] 🤔 [10:27:07] For a simple change like adding a protection level, it will behave no differently to out of the box mediawiki [10:27:08] [1/2] I forgot PHP had a function called `die` [10:27:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432677057422430374/image.png?ex=6901ebfc&is=69009a7c&hm=e8935f277b55d8bc8ed6e1434826f3a978e51120ca51e64464e7764e8bca4342& [10:27:18] You are massively overcomplicating things [10:27:27] Mediawiki has restInPeace too [10:27:29] you don't need to test if that part is right lol you just need to test if the configuration itself works [10:27:45] I mean you don't really even need that for protection levels [10:27:49] It's standard config [10:28:15] yeah honestly I just push to main without a care in the world [10:28:17] Our techs are more than competent enough to check that while deploying [10:28:27] You're not supposed to say that [10:28:38] You meticulously test by deploying on test before mwtask [10:28:48] And making sure it doesn't explode [10:29:22] There is not really a lot you can do to test something like that tbh [10:30:18] prot levels don't really need testing tbh, i just quadruple check the syntax and names [10:30:39] easier to just git revert than to test a PR [10:31:03] that's to say go make it easier smhhhhh [10:31:12] actually might do it myself [10:31:14] @urbanecm might have a thoughts as a Wikimedia deployer [10:31:35] But basic things like that I wouldn't expect you to need to spin up a mediawiki instance [10:32:04] yeah anything more involved than that I will actually test [10:32:35] hmm yes today I will not test default ext changes [10:34:36] I mean that didn't work anyway [10:34:39] Somehow [10:35:09] beta is cursed [10:35:30] Yes it is [10:35:37] Despite being a fair few years younger [10:35:45] It suffers from all the same issues as WMF beta [10:39:15] 2020 [10:56:45] Nuke it every year then, it will be fresh each time /j [11:06:12] That tells me you know nothing about the problems with wmf beta [12:07:39] [1/2] yo send this to another server [12:07:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432702353148219433/image.png?ex=6902038b&is=6900b20b&hm=83a340a973d55fee240540c3b5c4a6185be94a7945bc6089ae84346d6ec00ca8& [12:30:41] true [12:35:48] but i think every problem can be solved provided you nuke it enough [12:35:59] if once every year is not enough maybe one per week [13:29:09] Such posts need to be posted in #offtopic please [13:35:40] How goes Miraheze? [13:38:01] [1/2] can someone help me with infobox stuff [13:38:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432725092286337075/i-humbly-ask-for-your-cat-reaction-pics-v0-42xsa7f6c6cb1.png?ex=690218b8&is=6900c738&hm=25f56ab3b5262beae39d91c5c866965cbb8682a49e91ee6de859bd8682c2e88c& [14:14:43] Maybe it can be solved if you watch Nukie enough [14:14:57] What are you struggling with? [14:15:52] 2 things [14:16:56] [1/3] - the label cells should be vertically aligned to the top and aligned to the left [14:16:56] [2/3] - why are albania and wales social distancing from the rest.. [14:16:56] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432734886183043072/image-397.png?ex=690221d7&is=6900d057&hm=755ddd004559ae6158e056fc5c7f2eef63340938fec8b613bdf1a87c18c8ffb3& [14:17:30] but after changing the common css the label cells aren't listening 🫠 [14:18:30] Sometimes I find that space can be left over if you have unused functions in the table. [14:19:03] Is that all one long parameter or seperate parameters? [14:19:11] one long parameter [14:20:20] [1/2] it's basically [14:20:20] [2/2] ```|debut = {{VDSC|Albania}}
{{VDSC|Canada}}
{{VDSC|Chile}}
... and so on and so forth``` [14:30:31] What does it look like between {Number of finalists} and the {debut} parameter. [14:32:51] in the template itself or on the wiki page? [14:33:30] In the template [14:33:33] what's link to the page [14:34:16] it's set to private but i'll send a link and make you two admins [14:35:58] https://verda.miraheze.org/wiki/Verdavision_Song_Contest_01 [14:36:40] send me your usernames [14:37:18] it's imported from wikipedia [14:37:19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_song_contest [14:38:29] [1/2] this part [14:38:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432740311922114643/image.png?ex=690226e5&is=6900d565&hm=704c7c9e1ccca26e8bde2fd72de6da5e966ce3a375ad7033c6a37c8b16f87c21& [14:39:41] [1/2] doesn't seem to have the issue on wp? [14:39:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432740613681315912/image.png?ex=6902272d&is=6900d5ad&hm=189dc3fbf75e099eed15baddbea459a509b2f6cc5b170b0b4178eb520be4847c& [14:45:40] i don't know what's happening [14:47:23] [1/2] when i listed them out on the main page as they were on the template they were normal [14:47:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432742550447460498/image.png?ex=690228fb&is=6900d77b&hm=2dcc5c5c7228333d2e3336e55cbba91d0baaad6afdf50567149f81fc0e1f64b6& [14:47:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432742698225504547/image.png?ex=6902291e&is=6900d79e&hm=29bf21effddc4c1616cd63c810225358d5cb846504e8564d848180b16053ded8& [16:05:01] okey [16:05:03] :) [16:30:22] Citizen has a "performance" mode now? [16:31:55] yes it was added a few weeks ago [16:37:11] They should add a "maximum" mode where your browser is blasted with 200 ads playing subway surfers gameplay, tuff 6-7 mango phonk edits and the newest episode of skibidi toilet. [16:38:17] thats an idea for sure ! [16:41:03] usually this happens when you've got newlines in the template [16:42:47] so A) make sure that the template doesn't have trailing newlines (imo `onlyinclude` > `noinclude` for templates entirely due to this reason) or B) use CSS to remove the margin for `p` elements in infoboxes [16:42:49] or do both [16:43:25] you dont even need to do that [16:43:31] just go on to f*ndom [16:43:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385686339483074651/1389837864665219153/caption.gif [16:44:12] What if we embedded fandom in Miraheze ❓ [16:44:28] Oh wait f*om mb [16:44:36] f-slur detected, time to ban you [16:44:45] https://tenor.com/view/opinion-bunny-cat-meme-tim-gif-5757637543570572724 [16:44:50] impossible it's not in csp whitelist:EpicFaceMH: [16:44:57] https://tenor.com/view/god-bless-fandom-god-bless-fandom-wiki-miraheze-gif-17358418883085533391 [16:47:49] @thewwrnerdguy i wonder if when i need both onlyinclude and includeonly, which one is inside? [16:48:10] wdym [16:48:31] includeonly means it doesn't show up on the template page but it does appear when transcluding [16:48:49] onlyinclude means that only stuff in the onlyinclude shows up when transcluding [16:48:51] [1/3] ab/noinclude [16:48:51] [2/3] can be replaced with [16:48:52] [3/3] a/onlyincludeb [16:49:02] yes [16:49:28] a/onlyincludeb/noinclude is redundant [16:49:39] but what to replace a/includeonlyb/noinclude if you use onlyinclude? [16:49:40] I learnt this way later than I should have [16:50:19] `a/onlyinclude/includeonlyb` [16:50:34] that's what i meant [16:50:39] the order doesn't matter, I just put includeonly first out of personal preference [16:50:47] [1/2] hi rhinos, regarding the question about fmboxes not showing up. What do you think might have happend? [16:50:47] [2/2] Kind regards, Quarnds [16:51:11] hard to remember the order for me lol [16:51:30] stick to old fashion w/o onlyinclude:ThinkingHardMH: [16:51:42] murdering you rn [16:51:59] [1/2] how do i do this [16:51:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432773906501992479/image.png?ex=6902462e&is=6900f4ae&hm=6552f3a056fc954ad671871a9d17758e24cebf01620d62fe5dca1cf84287d5a1& [16:52:59] do i go on common.css or [16:53:05] how to search for tags tbh [16:53:12] :insource: does nothing [16:53:43] [1/2] so for example, here is me doing that for a portable infobox. I don't know if you're using PI or a classic infobox, but the best way to try it is by inspect element [16:53:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432774342932041788/image.png?ex=69024697&is=6900f517&hm=15a2043bd4823c3a0d0640eb1a8609d566f94dcbcd68ffeaaf7caae8a5b48ca4& [16:53:47] yes it would be common.css [16:54:07] and you just need to set `margin: 0;` for something [16:54:14] it's wikipedia style not pi i think they mentioned [16:54:27] I think you might be able to just do `.infobox p { margin: 0; }` [16:54:47] i just imported one from wikipedia [16:54:55] ^ [16:56:14] btw fandom has special:tagsreport. is it ext or what? [16:56:43] nvm it's a fandom owned ext [16:57:06] 404 repo link in their special:version [16:57:12] any substitute to it? [16:57:18] [1/2] i just put this in common.css [16:57:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432775243432464464/image.png?ex=6902476d&is=6900f5ed&hm=d4d75d3085461d08dc69f89ed0270648c6b3b0eb31f96825cd5c8213667ff958& [16:57:26] now i wait for about 70 hours [16:57:31] for it to update [16:59:45] [1/2] found a wiki replicating it:EpicFaceMH: [16:59:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432775859126796308/IMG_20251029_005854.jpg?ex=69024800&is=6900f680&hm=d4daa04f24ffa1b35f6edfdad96a8e9575d49001687244d53b062c9df71cdde3& [17:00:30] well not exist [17:10:43] Why are you asking me [17:10:46] Also please ping me [17:11:29] they also opened a support thread [17:11:50] okay, and yes I opened a support thread. 👍 [17:12:18] You'll get an answer from someone who probably isn't me in the support thread [17:34:32] Where can I see the wiki request queue 🧌 [17:35:12] [[Special:RequestWikiQueue]] [17:35:12]

[18:17:22] so after waiting for quite a bit this hasn't updated yet and i don't know if it's just the css style being slow to load or if that did absolutely nothing but [18:17:40] [1/2] 👍👍👍👍👍👍 [18:17:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432795469070733392/image.png?ex=69025a43&is=690108c3&hm=e65cdd3af6ccd68b0dcc25b4c2b46990e413241dc6ff0a9e673d6b9b103a01fd& [18:18:31] i diagnose you with caching [18:19:12] ctrl+shift+r? [18:19:14] because i did that [18:19:24] and it didn't do nothing unfortunately [18:19:31] ?debug=2 my beloved [18:20:22] or maybe the css really does nothing [18:20:50] try inspecting your infobox elements to check it [18:21:52] oh i found something out [18:22:11] [1/2] so for some reason albania and wales are not in the same thing as the rest [18:22:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432796608155881533/image.png?ex=69025b53&is=690109d3&hm=ebef0e4e0676187c2ebe13abdedf428c8ea56f39e2f4ba465af1684b79e733d9& [18:22:48] [1/2] actually no it DID do something because the margin between those two was bigger [18:22:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1432796760706777149/image.png?ex=69025b77&is=690109f7&hm=66599553d02420a0716bf1dadffc0accdbfcf6be728cac3a50be9e5967c1fa9d& [18:22:53] everything between them are in the p [18:22:57] but there should be no margin [18:23:01]