[03:32:39] Similar question, is querying Cargo via the corresponding parser function resource heavy? Especially if used in a template that is used as often as text is formatted (bold, italic, etc) [04:02:15] [1/2] Blue Archive Wiki caches the result with the Variables extension, so I think the performance impact is non-negligible when you use it hundreds of times on a page. [04:02:16] [2/2] https://bluearchive.wiki/wiki/Template:ItemCard [04:03:15] Gotcha, thank you [04:07:13] I was considering using Cargo to allow editors to register color shorthands for a text coloring template [04:34:35] [1/3] once i've created a template say {{templateA}} and filled it out. [04:34:35] [2/3] Is there a way for me to quickly go to that template page and edit it instead of manuelly going to [04:34:36] [3/3] wiki/Template:templateA? [04:34:36]

[04:36:13] you can type it into the search bar [04:36:35] or if you want to use your userpage to store links, link to it like any other page [04:36:53] you can also use some simple javascript to add a quick personal quick access link [05:24:54] wait what i saw another guy do it and i assumed everything was fine [05:41:40] [1/2] The point of suppression is to hide content that very much should not be seen to the point where it needs to be hidden to only users who have signed a legal contract to not share information. Posting the request with the location or existence of that content in a not only public, but trafficked and watched noticeboard makes the problem much worse before i [05:41:40] [2/2] t is resovled. [05:43:03] i already hid the content from normal users and i assume any person that has done enough good deeds to be a site-wide admin would try and solve the problem instead of dox me [06:42:45] [1/4] Hello! [06:42:46] [2/4] So there's a page on my wiki that is very very very long at 170, 345 bytes in length. It's a devlog page that lists every change to a game the wiki is about and its intended to be one long page so that changes can easily be searched. [06:42:46] [3/4] We're in the middle of adding links to every change that redirect users to where the change can be read in more detail. It's a massive undertaking but I feel its useful to catalogue all the changes. [06:42:46] [4/4] My question is... the page won't break if that page is littered... and I mean almost 80% of the words, is a link... right? I just don't want to spend many many hours completing the page and realise the page breaks if we do it. [08:55:51] it was hidden locally at sysop level if it's the request I actioned, so it wasn't a big deal [08:56:29] but that is something people have to be extremely careful about as it does indeed defeat the purpose if you want information to be suppressed and then link it to an open venue with potentially a lot of eyes and scrapers coming across it [08:58:17] the fact the page is this long will already be your source of lag and it's not nice to run on a low performance system, but I don't think links per se would make a huge difference on top of that. If it's embeds and iirc templates then yes [08:58:46] It's just links. Thanks for the insight. [08:58:49] a better approach may very well be to split page if the performance hit is noticeable [08:59:50] iirc it also makes it more likely for the edit to just time out the more you add into it but I don't have a clear threshold to offer when that starts happening, only that I've seen it when I've seen people go overboard on pages [09:01:43] Concerning... but willing to continue with the project. My only concern was if the page would lag as more links was added but if the performance is more affected on the length of the page, with linking being minimal, then I'm fien to continue with it. =p [09:02:03] I'll reach that bridge when I get there if edits starts timing out. [09:12:01] the linking adds more 'stuff involved' which will probably accelerate it as opposed to plain text, but again, probably not huge on its own vs other things you can put in which could choke pages out far faster [09:12:18] Got it, thank you. =] [09:12:29] so probably see how it turns out at checkpoints and consider splitting if it goes 'gaaaa' [12:07:35] [1/4] going trough band's official web site for wiki referencing reasons, got reminded of something hilarious [12:07:35] [2/4] i made a photo of my deluxe CD, which I posses still, cus i had not way to scan it back then, so i managed to carefully edit it to look nice like a scan, and I made it 500px to upload on wiki [12:07:35] [3/4] turns out it was the only good image of this CD cover online, the rest were just normal photos to sell on ebay and discogs [12:07:36] [4/4] a years or too later i wander trough official web site/store, they decided to sell this CD normally, and guess what - they used my file from the wiki, in the same resolution (it's blurry due to site formatting), the same colors (blue is slightly off I must admit) [12:09:39] Hi [12:09:45] hey there [15:15:14] Who can i dm to ask a question regarding my wiki online it is a situation on the wiki and even someone who is 18+ [15:17:08] @nibblypup see [15:18:12] well what kind of situation [15:18:30] it must be one of the staff [15:34:30] What do you mean by “staff”, there are multiple levels of volunteers with different roles [15:35:23] like Stewards and the people that works on the wikis across all the wikis [15:35:40] on miraheze [15:39:09] That can be Stewards, Global Admins, T&S [15:39:36] what are T&S [15:40:23] trust and safety [15:40:32] [[Trust and Safety]] [15:40:33]

[15:49:51] For legal, safety, really bad stuff etc [15:51:05] ndkilla is constantly pinged for wrong reasons 😭 [15:51:43] There is basically no reason to need to ping Killa ever unless it’s something related to her specifically [15:52:19] she's so up in user list w/ admin role tho .. [15:53:24] @pix, unrelated but do you think my translations are sufficient to ask for permanent rights [15:53:59] At this point, I’m gonna run for admin just so people ping me instead :KEKW: [15:54:15] waits ominously [15:54:18] Dew it [15:54:33] walks away giggling [15:56:09] I haven’t been looking at your translation and I don’t know French so I can’t tell you. I would prefer to stick with the historical precedent of requesting near the end of the trial(though atp I already forgot when I gave the bit…) [15:56:18] I probably won’t be the reviewing administrator for that though [15:56:30] I mostly meant in numbers [15:56:39] My translations are flawless 💅 [15:56:45] But the trial isn’t about meeting a sufficient amount [15:56:57] Quality, over quantity [15:57:12] yeah I’m aware, but last time I lapsed due to low numbers iirc [15:57:29] Quality I’m pretty confident that I meet the mark [15:59:15] is french your native lang? cus we had cases when non-native lang speakers would drop whatever [15:59:27] yeah it’s my native tongue [16:00:12] I am not even going to venture into translating anything other than what I’m native and/or certified in [16:21:31] really quick question. can a private wiki be un-privated [16:22:23] Yes [16:22:30] There’s a simple checkbox in core settings [16:22:54] ok [16:23:07] i saw it but it said "be careful some changes are hard to reverse" [16:28:31] That one’s fine 🙂 [18:26:54] [1/2] Currently trying out some CSS [18:26:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434247347193381057/image.png?ex=6907a26e&is=690650ee&hm=86eea8425985b952ddb84c20b9a20fb9919b897144d7f8d0ec7498631127ed56& [18:27:06] I wonder how I can get the background to appear across the whole page [18:27:14] and change the colors of all of the text [18:27:23] the CSS I was using doesn't seem to do that [18:27:50] [1/2] Alright [18:27:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434247580438630522/image.png?ex=6907a2a6&is=69065126&hm=e5ff2ac45122e6faf318aaebade3709195bade1f60cdfcdcda47a23bbf305e5e& [18:27:55] the text color is working but not the background [18:34:38] [1/2] Getting there now [18:34:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434249289747402814/image.png?ex=6907a43d&is=690652bd&hm=bfaacc29b93c4de7da89c342025161911daf32e5f0c94c2eae3712e0fa77a6bd& [19:07:01] the top white space is an element above backround [19:07:54] so how can I make it show the background [19:09:10] [1/3] i believe`#mw-page-base { [19:09:10] [2/3] background-color: transparent; [19:09:11] [3/3] background-image: none; } [19:11:00] alright [19:11:42] also it takes quite a while for the changes to appear even after purging [19:12:09] [1/2] S [19:12:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434258733793546260/image.png?ex=6907ad09&is=69065b89&hm=fe9e0aef0e786a248f35372b738d603c488bebc5382d7566c3e80424373abdfa& [19:12:20] [1/2] this is what I want it to look like [19:12:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434258778529992714/image.png?ex=6907ad14&is=69065b94&hm=d2a1e6133864cb001718894bb848dfe5c8506e6cea32f4ebc4c70bb14cb256c3& [19:12:29] minus the white at the top [19:12:40] that's a thing w/ mediawiki pages, we recommend going w/ browser's web tools or user CSS to test changes, before adding them for real [19:13:14] on user CSS changes appear right away and visible only to you [19:13:19] ah [19:13:53] how can I set User CSS on the wiki [19:13:55] I don't think I have it yet [19:14:25] User:YourUsername/common.css [19:14:28] alright [19:14:36] I got it now but the page color is still not the background or solid color [19:14:41] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434259371805642802/image.png?ex=6907ada1&is=69065c21&hm=189bc5da2ea350d292271968d71f88cbeb96a7ce68896d03088cb11e520e25a7& [19:14:49] and the text color changed back to default [19:15:04] you gotta poke w/ inspector more precisely [19:15:12] i can share my vector.css tho [19:15:36] please do [19:15:51] [19:16:14] thanks [19:34:51] It's working on my user CSS [19:34:58] [1/2] however not really outside of it [19:34:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434264476110160003/image.png?ex=6907b262&is=690660e2&hm=4090ec3fb67d616354d4d91f55e1654192f539df92d6570926ff823d2ad4c8ba& [19:35:03] even though I've pasted the same CSS [19:35:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434264580711907408/image.png?ex=6907b27b&is=690660fb&hm=2b67e923d174135a07d99ba17d84747b334e3e9d88911acd527d5aaae8fab3fa& [19:35:44] i suggest to check in incognito mode, again - it takes a while for site wide css to start working [19:36:08] [1/3] Same case there [19:36:08] [2/3] I think I might have to wait then [19:36:08] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434264764963356792/image.png?ex=6907b2a7&is=69066127&hm=9920feb37470a10c5813d18014e0d93673a2940f58bb2614565d6c0f0121947d& [19:36:28] you can force cache purge w/ purge button or `?action=purge` [19:36:46] I've also changed the logo from PNG to SVG [19:36:55] via settings? [19:36:56] the last time I had the SVG version it was too zoomed in [19:37:00] when it loads up I'll need to see again [19:37:06] If the CSS is in both places, it's almost certainly a waiting game. [19:37:06] or file update? [19:37:07] I did resize the SVG itself to the correct size [19:37:18] via settings [19:39:37] I wonder if it's possible to change the logo on user CSS [19:40:20] [1/2] Checking again the logo seems to have vanished completely [19:40:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434265826789167244/image.png?ex=6907b3a4&is=69066224&hm=4f8377ceb466d39d4ac49db261b054b889e6357234a90e3c6b6466b7eb64a9d2& [19:40:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434265896494432336/image.png?ex=6907b3b5&is=69066235&hm=78a96df8f48703b4587c379276bdd5376f25af5d2cbfc58984a16ca20429613f& [19:42:04] how can I get it to appear [19:44:28] [1/2] well, id add that black logo isn't looking well against dark grey background [19:44:29] [2/2] i personally never used svg for logo so not sure [19:44:54] I plan on changing it to white or yellow [19:45:17] which is why I'm using SVG [19:52:28] I see why it wasn't loading [19:52:32] I didn't use the direct image URK [19:55:40] [1/2] I also see yet another mistake [19:55:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434269682311106770/image.png?ex=6907b73b&is=690665bb&hm=6bb96785a1424333aa059b37548032f4d79955a497c92304373aa50d24b62838& [19:55:49] I've deleted the pink color from the CSS on my user CSS but it still shows up [19:56:04] it could different shade of my pink [19:56:21] you gotta check what is changing [19:56:35] i don't advice blindly copying any css [19:57:05] I got it now [19:57:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434270101422608414/IMG_2115.png?ex=6907b79f&is=6906661f&hm=2fb63eafa92a6c168cef4e6d6d462cbf325427127fe6be4e5e483cb98891e48c& [19:57:55] it's looking pretty good [19:58:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434270303667879946/image.png?ex=6907b7cf&is=6906664f&hm=218fd50a3df45fc4d56a6a1737dce611b577212e8cbec478a93903b61ff5cead& [19:58:10] I just need to see about the logo [19:58:17] and changing other colors [19:59:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434270561315586130/image.png?ex=6907b80d&is=6906668d&hm=4265908f412330978557711a4126bec2da7d1f493c36af07f54220711d283330& [19:59:12] and there it is finalized [20:01:41] [1/2] A quick look at it before the changes [20:01:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434271197025144842/image.png?ex=6907b8a4&is=69066724&hm=0e772f5406df1843a11ec3ada1972f3c89f118d2c0b71d07dad25e89d3daf9cd& [21:08:10] I hope those black wordmarks are white if it's on dark mode [21:11:14] [1/2] Nope [21:11:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434288699402616842/image.png?ex=6907c8f1&is=69067771&hm=3577567c365a3822c3d2c0cae9a486b9fdec5424b25151546307f2f5573ef6cd& [21:12:22] let him cook [21:15:00] Oh it's very cool anyway i dont disagree [22:41:32] is it bad wiki pratice to make a template for everysingle skill in the game? [22:41:53] basically instead of typign skill name and description everytime I can just call {{SkillName}} [22:41:54]

[22:44:11] Maybe there is a way to generalize it passing a parameter like {{Skill|name}} [22:45:01] Would avoir having ioads of template to maintain [22:45:43] ok. Can I store all the skill description somewhere so I can call {{Skill|name}} to automatically pull up the descriptions? [22:45:45] Templates are generally for easier editing across multiple pages, so you use them how you see fit. [22:46:41] i think thats possible with the if parser tag [22:46:57] [1/2] Yes. You can do that with a json page and Lua. [22:46:57] [2/2] Alternatively, you can use a big `#switch` statement, but that comes with terrible performance when you have hundreds of skills. [22:47:25] :thonkrun: [22:47:38] i will think about my options before i get into heavy technical debt [22:47:47] how many template is too many/i dont want to strain the wiki [22:47:50] Tech Debt is fun though [22:48:08] True i can just hand it to someone else [22:48:56] Dépends of your editor base ig [22:49:21] elaborate? [22:50:59] If you have a lot of people to maintain you can manage more template more easily [22:51:13] ah makes sense. just me atm [22:51:49] i think if i make template for the skill effects {{damage}} {{inflict poison}} etc [22:51:50]

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[2/2] [22:52:05] I can do {{Skill|Name}} insert list of effect templates here [22:59:40] do a switch statement and if you notice pages taking a while to load/preview then rewrite it in Lua [22:59:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434316055098036364/image.png?ex=6907e26b&is=690690eb&hm=8d446b8a39f931647718f0b9283ca9437f7c168549be5a12e4bab6e2fb181c83& [22:59:57] It's fixed now [23:00:29] nice [23:00:36] [1/2] it's supposed to be similar to this [23:00:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434316222782247042/472749157_1227305705037883_8056244750162449801_n.jpg?ex=6907e293&is=69069113&hm=ef0e8451d0735192c9eb0b9eff8be0d8ef7ca8d6b83f24a06d21c999fa6989ed& [23:01:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_worry_about_performance might be relevant [23:02:51] Agreed [23:03:28] MediaWiki’s parser limits will put a stop to stuff long, loooooong before it has any meaningful effect on us [23:11:57] [1/2] A bit of a quick fix [23:11:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1434319078511612005/image.png?ex=6907e53c&is=690693bc&hm=9e2875a8c732450e83666f1f77312e8c07b74cc8c587617e7820849ceae52a67&