[00:07:25] i'm using A template from Wikipedia and These are showing up at the bottom how do I get rid of it "Categories: Pages using infobox television with non-matching titlePages using infobox television with unlinked valuesPages using infobox television with nonstandard dates" [00:41:19] i still think cologne blue and modern shouldn't be enabled by default [00:41:28] Hey is 96 Modules too much to have [00:43:19] With possibly the same amount for templates [00:51:55] Is it possible to change the properties of all the "==Header==" like adding an additional image [01:26:39] @shoumsoun572 if you're using them, then no. If they're just there, they yes. [01:27:46] ok [01:38:10] I mean eventually but I guess I don't have to worry [02:25:23] [1/3] I guess I don't understand your question then. [02:25:23] [2/3] If they're not used, they're not really taking up much bandwidth or space, so the only issue is the time they took up for you. [02:25:23] [3/3] If they are used, then they aren't too much. [02:32:00] check out how many wikipedia is using [02:33:57] I think you can do that with pseudo elements using CSS [02:50:00] Thanks I'll try looking into that [03:10:41] [1/2] why is cosmos like this [03:10:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451049000882012263/image.png?ex=6944c230&is=694370b0&hm=4c80e6dca0db72aeda71b657d3657cf6395a1704867b5d17c35ffeed370c0f46& [04:17:49] [1/2] how do i add the last edited user onto the footer? [04:17:49] [2/2] > This page was last edited 07:55, September 24, 2025 by Miraheze Meta user PetraMagna. [07:26:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Lastmodifiedatby and https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Siteuser ? [07:52:11] if any meta wiki admin is around could [this gadget](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CleanDeleteReasons.js) be updated to the [version](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-CleanDeleteReasons.js) on mediawiki.org? current version on meta wiki is out of date and does not work [07:52:20] not sure if this is worth a ping [08:59:17] Meta admins don't have `editsitejs` rights. Wiki mechanic/steward/tech team member can update it, though. [09:17:38] [1/3] appears as [09:17:38] [2/3] > This page was last edited on November 24, 2025, at 21:22. [09:17:38] [3/3] for my wiki [09:47:42] Hmmm. Want to share the link? I'm not an expert in this but I can try to debug. [09:48:36] basically every wiki excluding meta [09:48:45] e.g https://bluearchive.wiki [09:57:41] Hmm. I went through https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages?prefix=&filter=modified&lang=en&limit=5000 and didn't find anything suspicious. Maybe it's something on the PHP side of things. [09:59:35] which wiki [10:00:00] trollface emoji [10:01:14] it's $wgMaxCredits [10:22:55] @toosplatched set ^ to 1 [10:25:06] [1/2] girl [10:25:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451158326581657612/Screenshot_20251218_172455_com_android_chrome_ChromeTabbedActivity.jpg?ex=69452802&is=6943d682&hm=6ace1ad6158c745b1613c592bbe1c32a12e9cf2a6bc69082e452482c36a489c3& [10:25:32] bahahaha [10:25:55] makes sense given that it generates an extra db query per page [10:26:00] you know what to do [10:26:17] can i do this phorge task for multiple wikis [10:26:27] it's not a phorge task [10:26:38] sr/rc ? [10:26:42] yea [10:26:56] should i make a new post each wiki for this [11:25:37] [1/2] is it just me or are all wikis having forced desktop mode [11:25:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451173557257244804/Screenshot_2025-12-18-19-07-37-73_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=69453631&is=6943e4b1&hm=fd2f964d81695f348e3ed2741afc03e863aa03760c989bfe4494fba6c6a32d6a& [11:27:09] what do you mean? are you sure view desktop mode isnt checked if using mobile chrome [11:29:49] just checked industrualist wiki and this issue only happens on their site [14:04:14] The bar below was mobile mode [14:04:24] oh no [14:04:26] On desktop it was on the left side [14:04:38] [1/2] desktop isn't on [14:04:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451213574855725209/Screenshot_2025-12-18-21-40-10-32_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=69455b76&is=694409f6&hm=29189f1755c181eddd6abeeaa7cfa8cf8747542406cf502d9dc68df4b9541382& [14:04:52] Maybe somehow the browser is bugged? [14:04:53] it thinks im on pc or something [14:05:06] no everyone esle is experiencing same problem [14:05:11] admins can't do it though [14:05:30] refresh server cache? it's called purge [14:05:44] 3 dot on wiki page > purge [14:06:42] nop.nada [14:06:52] [1/2] still is forced [14:06:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451214133482750002/Screenshot_2025-12-18-22-06-34-13_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=69455bfb&is=69440a7b&hm=d529f69a1150ccfc8a6af9e3a2453e245de9f3b788d8706452bf25c449d6ea3e& [14:07:59] i was legit joking with the admins and was like "imma learn how to use the api to edit on mobile cause this thing is sacred" [14:09:58] it can be changed now [14:10:13] im assuming something has gone wrong. tried visiting the wiki and its lagging me [14:10:28] @faustianmartin whats going on with ur wiki [14:10:28] so [14:10:36] the bar is on the top [14:10:43] on pc [14:10:49] on mobile it's set below [14:12:07] you can append ?safemode=1 to the url and it'll behave normally [14:12:25] Huh [14:13:13] there's forced desktop mode on mobile for mobile users using this eiki [14:13:38] [1/2] Uh so this is what it looks like for me [14:13:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451215836718301346/Screenshot_20251218_071306_Chrome.jpg?ex=69455d91&is=69440c11&hm=b8751092d01c6cc673a9a6c06c1c1722f001f24675d2bb5bb28875996252ee53& [14:13:39] [1/2] problem [14:13:39] [2/2] im using the app 🤡 [14:13:50] yup i just zoomed out [14:13:54] yes so zoom out [14:13:59] so uninstall the app [14:13:59] :shrug: [14:15:01] you're a bit boned if you are editing from an app and not even a fully independent browser window [14:15:16] damn [14:16:11] [1/2] oh my god no way [14:16:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451216477247115446/Screenshot_2025-12-18-22-15-30-09_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=69455e2a&is=69440caa&hm=56992f762e62a3dd687296acde73cade92c88de5b46d48dc6aec54e477aa755f& [14:17:49] i just noticed ?safemode=1 is so funny [14:18:12] some templates are just broken [14:19:23] safemode breaks custom css and js [14:19:43] doesn't load them* [14:20:02] potato potatoe for the conversation's purpose [14:22:55] hm [14:23:13] @potatoesaregood1 tell marty to not do whatever this is https://industrialist.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citizen.css#L-457 [14:23:43] toggling that line fixed the issue for the most part [14:24:14] [1/2] example [14:24:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451218504815476828/image.png?ex=6945600d&is=69440e8d&hm=36adf716e608ae2a9d7de5db34228c3a56ae4f70b15b706c2975b269a24f7bd6& [14:24:43] problem is he does that in multiple places [14:25:42] [1/2] ok removing that from the footer as well produces an acceptable result [14:25:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451218875084574729/image.png?ex=69456066&is=69440ee6&hm=e7007f794bad5c0b37932fed0769e54a4fba3d81059cc99599a074166448cd71& [14:26:05] i cannot believe css made a wiki laggy [14:26:15] i debugged and when i loaded the css it lagged my chrome [14:56:18] Anyone know how to install Citoid? [14:57:39] On your own instance? [15:08:36] Yep [15:09:01] I remember that Miraheze tried to import it but failed [15:09:15] whistles [15:11:24] ? [15:47:59] done we just have to wait for em to respond [15:48:31] [1/2] yes as they all say [15:48:31] [2/2] code is held up by hopes and prayers :pupCoffeeMH: [19:51:19] doesn't @pskyechology constantly bring up 500ms for font animation or smth? [19:52:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867365805674201091/1427368269991514142/watermark.gif [21:44:03] how do I mention a file of commons? [21:44:38] [1/2] I remember it was: [21:44:38] [2/2] > {{©File: [21:44:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451329392122003627/image.png?ex=6945c753&is=694475d3&hm=e8193cdf718e0af4286e1800aef5377eed2be0981c430fed156224ff67441d0f& [21:44:54] but doesn't work [21:46:59] if you want to use a file and you have instantcommons enabled just put [[File:]] as usual [21:47:12] I want to use the description [21:47:30] remoce the first colon rq? [21:50:31] maybe is because is a pdf [21:51:06] wait nvm "{{"always brings in a template [21:51:35] it thinks you want a template [21:52:24] chatgpt says that pdf is broken, and seems so. i tried to extract a random image and worked. but with the pdf didn't work. [21:52:54] [Error de recuperación de plantilla para https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Oraciones,_ensalmos_i_conjuros_del_pueblo_chileno_comparados_con_los_que_se_dicen_en_Espa%C3%B1a_por_Ram%C3%B3n_A._Laval.pdf?action=render: HTTP 404] [21:53:13] mmmm [21:53:31] I will try some things more, maybe I am wrong with the title [21:54:20] ok, the url was wrong, sorry [22:45:35] no matter how much i try, in the citizen skin, the tables keep getting pinned to the left [22:46:00] i even went in the settings and deleted some pin to the left setting that was on automatically for some reason [23:10:38] wdym? what wiki is this on, what do you want it to look like? [23:11:39] [1/2] example page: https://tokuwin.miraheze.org/wiki/a [23:11:39] [2/2] template (i want this to pin to the right): https://tokuwin.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:nimi [23:11:49] it's a table, if that helps [23:13:07] A) does this wikitext work if you try it on commons, B) is `$wgEnableScaryTranscluding` enabled on your wiki [23:14:09] [1/2] It was a wrong url, the problem. [23:14:09] [2/2] {{©File:Name.ext}} works fine for description [23:14:14] [23:14:35] You know, the :c :File without the space [23:15:50] [1/5] ```css [23:15:50] [2/5] .citizen-overflow-wrapper { [23:15:51] [3/5] float: right; [23:15:51] [4/5] }``` works if you want a quick fix. I think it's probably something to do with the `wikitable` class, if you remove that does it fix the issue? [23:15:51] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451352287711592610/image.png?ex=6945dca6&is=69448b26&hm=c46bb0bf5b1e376b5617f320e7ead18fdc3fab623cdf33e1cd6a0bb2344fea39& [23:16:00] :\c: [23:16:29] discord not liking interwiki prefixes [23:16:54] i do not know how to implement this [23:17:47] [1/2] remove this css class and see if that fixes it first [23:17:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451352777346252915/image.png?ex=6945dd1a&is=69448b9a&hm=5aec85b340383028244667be449b18a847931d267f3ee7e62d335f46e618988d& [23:18:11] the other thing requires templatestyles or site css so try removing the class first [23:19:58] yeah it worked but it also broke the template [23:20:11] it's on the right but all silly [23:20:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451353461395296388/image.png?ex=6945ddbe&is=69448c3e&hm=6d53417057ebe6a51e4b232376cf98642eedfa1496a9ee9970b3e303d74fe342& [23:20:41] i assume i'll have to restyle it manually [23:21:00] is there a way i can copy the wikitable styles onto this [23:22:09] Other ways to make infoboxes include https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox or the PortableInfobox extension [23:22:21] to copy wikitable styles you can probably just use the style editor [23:24:41] [1/3] so e.g. here I inspect element and manually put the "wikitable" class into the template so I can see the wikitable styles. Then I click on the "load.php" link you see on the right, then it takes me to this editor you see on the second image [23:24:41] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451354512760508577/inspect.png?ex=6945deb8&is=69448d38&hm=1f5323a017eef05114df4edbab54d7ea1ea66622478d12f3b732419d6937371b& [23:24:41] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451354513091854456/style_editor.png?ex=6945deb8&is=69448d38&hm=eb2e53d9122a51e4c1e83ebfaab04967972568688961257eebeb75ab35ce5d77& [23:27:09] [1/2] there's quite a lot here though [23:27:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451355134339842119/table.css?ex=6945df4c&is=69448dcc&hm=de608ad2c0619cc8b94e3d353cb4375dffa0837053a94df88235de3d137565cf& [23:35:06] you can DO THAT [23:36:47] i can't find this where is this [23:36:57] pressed f12 and i'm searchin here [23:37:13] wait [23:38:45] nope can't find it [23:39:35] I'm on Firefox, I think Chrome has something similar but not at easy to get to iirc [23:40:28] i'm in firefox how do i get here [23:41:12] in the first image there's a link that says "load.php". Just click on that when you're inspecting the styles [23:44:17] [1/2] i don't get it where is thi [23:44:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451359449351589938/image.png?ex=6945e351&is=694491d1&hm=da7ffac6954912e494d84720a2fc5018e74b2c0ae0aac8f123987acbccf90de4& [23:45:08] found it [23:46:23] okay now that i've found it i'm still lost [23:46:50] do i edit the alignment now that i'm here [23:47:02] where would i find that [23:47:11] I just copied this from the style editor [23:47:22] I don't know what styles you want but these are the ones that wikitable uses [23:48:01] hmm [23:48:06] so if there was a style i wanted [23:48:12] i could type in this box and edit it [23:48:15] for the whole site? [23:49:09] so [23:49:24] if i were to make it so that the alignment didn't pin right [23:49:31] how would i do that [23:53:12] [1/3] Not sure what you're asking [23:53:12] [2/3] Right now your table is aligned right because the template has `float:right` in there. This is "inline styling". [23:53:12] [3/3] The style editor is just a raw CSS editor. If you reload the page, anything you've written there _will be lost_, since the style editor's purpose is just to give you a preview. If you want to save your changes you'll need to use sitewide CSS or [[mw:Extension:TemplateStyles]] [23:53:13] [23:55:20] yes, however it is not floating right [23:55:29] which i want it to [23:55:36] for some reason it stays to the left [23:58:53] [1/2] so Template:nimi gives it the "wikitable" class, and Citizen has some JS that runs when the page loads. That JS adds in some wrapper elements to the table, most likely so that the table looks nice on mobile. However, nimi is an infobox and is not meant to work like a table. My suggestion is either to remove the wikitable class and add in the styles you [23:58:53] [2/2] want manually, or to use the dev wiki's infobox or portable infobox that I linked earlier [23:59:38] i think i understand now [23:59:42] thx for the help