[00:01:20] <18.748.837.46> What's up with the media rights [00:02:22] <18.748.837.46> Like why is fine if I upload a copyrighted image on Facebook or something but not ok for Miraheze, Wikipedia, and related stuffs [00:39:26] [1/2] How can I resize this to be the like other icon? It's viewBox is 0 0 449.7 1522 [00:39:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451735714663370865/Screenshot_2025-12-20-02-37-46-235-edit_com.android.chrome.jpg?ex=694741be&is=6945f03e&hm=eaea2ceb533b95e2a8a173edde4493e2b57883b120db49d09542fe11ca6ce3c4& [00:54:02] wikipedia and spaces inspired from it take the potential liability much more seriously [00:55:04] commons more closely reflects wp in this while the global attitude is closer to fandom/other websites, in that uploads are probably fine until a rights holder calls it at which point you comply and that's that [00:58:20] if I make a user page, will it be specific to the wiki I create it for or is it shared across the entire miraheze meta? [00:59:27] specific to the wiki [00:59:58] thank you! [01:29:56] You can create a global user page on [[mh:login]] [01:29:57]

[01:31:23] awesome!! Thanks [04:29:45] have u tried modifying it with css [10:38:13] any way to automatically mark as patrolled to all edits? [10:42:24] @ncagych what were you doing when this appeared? [10:43:00] and copy error code here [10:43:21] so claire, for example, could check [10:46:27] Yea, but dunno what I'm supposed to size it to [10:46:31] i was trying to import template from devs wiki [10:46:59] well whats the height of your notion icob [10:48:12] `f6453a4109d7245409d2625a`. [11:01:06] 30x30, it's an iconSVG [11:07:15] [1/2] Tried putting it's width & height as 50 but it's just this [11:07:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451893705673019527/Screenshot_2025-12-20-13-03-52-058_com.android.chrome.jpg?ex=6947d4e2&is=69468362&hm=388ff76d13fa921598c9dd28430cd2049b9b0f8c24b27bf2c138d6b69154d630& [11:09:43] is this titan corp wiki [11:12:21] auror research wiki? [11:12:26] {{mh:aurorcorporation}} [11:12:28]

[11:12:44] yes [11:14:00] thats some weird issue happening [11:14:06] im sorry i dont think i can help 😢 [11:29:45] 67ef726f760a0f7a9b21c7ba [11:56:25] [1/2] :O [11:56:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451906081650380841/So_shoc_pfp.jpeg?ex=6947e068&is=69468ee8&hm=d2dde4ce1ff83ba39435d9c7d2839c684e20c553d4351a1739e05080346657ed& [13:16:32] [1/2] 67!!! [13:16:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451926243548201061/image.png?ex=6947f32f&is=6946a1af&hm=44eea3e7641746ba7c9613ff94e64edebd0be2340cda27d4058cdf484969ef83& [13:19:55] @pskyechology you available? [13:20:23] not home yet but soon [13:21:03] betting big money that they imported wp templates that want wikibase [13:25:55] what template is that? [13:26:23] dev wiki template [13:26:34] yes what template specifically [13:32:29] template:country [13:49:28] No error in the logs for this request id (not sure why that is), could you share a link to the page? [13:50:39] ok, sending to your DMs or right in this chat? [13:50:54] in the chat [13:52:51] okay [13:52:53] https://aylonworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Служебная:Импорт?action=submit [13:53:09] oh [13:53:12] it's not seen [13:53:41] 1bb3cdac5ef0989d42ad6806 [13:56:34] Nothing in graylog for that ID either [13:56:47] And I can't see the error myself on that link, so not sure [14:12:01] that's sad [14:28:13] are logs delayed again [14:29:19] They're on the festive break! [14:30:03] well, we're gonna have a breakdown /j [14:41:41] no, there are logs for the request, but no errors [14:41:49] wtf [14:41:51] this has happened at least 3 times recently [14:42:02] are error logs specifically delayed then [14:42:16] I don't think they're delayed [14:42:28] no errors 👍 [14:42:32] a few days ago there weren't any errors for a two day old request [14:42:57] ok that's a bit concerning [14:43:19] maybe filtering for mediawiki_wiki and mediawiki_logLevel or whatever it's called would work [14:43:25] but I'm on my phone rn, so idk [14:44:06] i gave up with filtering the channels unless i know the request was more than 15 minutes ago [14:44:37] its me, the graylog exploder [14:44:47] today i will query all channels for the past month [15:18:07] uhh wtf [15:18:23] `width: fit-content;` isn't accepted in TemplateStyles?? [15:18:25] why on earth [15:18:33] (it works in regular css pages) [15:24:28] How do you think Parsoid will affect templates and CSS? [15:25:48] seems like this was fixed in august [15:25:55] maybe a miraheze version thing? [15:32:39] if it was fixed in august, it will be available in 1.45 [15:33:01] aka 2045 [15:33:48] we're 1.44 now right [15:34:20] I guess I can use a less elegant solution in the meantime [15:36:05] Yeah but jokes aside it is going to take some time before we can update [15:36:36] Things like the brand new login system will take a good bit of work to get set up and is needed for updating I believe? There may be other factors too [15:37:06] interesting [15:37:33] What new update system? [15:37:40] SUL3 [15:37:48] Uh, what do you use now [15:37:57] SUL, not 3 [15:37:58] 2 [15:38:01] I think [15:38:11] Mediawiki isn’t great at naming sometime [15:38:18] [[mw:SUL2]] [15:38:19]

[15:38:57] V [[mw:SUL3]] [15:38:58]

[15:39:00] [1/4] basically adding an option to center a message box made of divs [15:39:00] [2/4] `margin:auto` only seems to work on `display:block`, which fixes the width at max-width unless I use `width:fit-content` [15:39:00] [3/4] currently it is `display:inline-block` in cause that fits the box to the content [15:39:01] [4/4] inelegant solution is to put the mbox in another flexbox div that purely handles alignment [15:50:05] What is the diffant bween SUL and Centrel Auth? [15:54:53] SUL is the authentication system, and CentralAuth the extension [15:55:27] Oh [15:55:56] SUL2/3 is a part of CentralAuth I think [15:56:38] the year is 2026, we still dont know the difference between cosmicalpha and centralauth [15:56:41] maybe they're the same [15:57:03] both mysterious outerspace entities [15:59:02] don't forget about certificate authorities [16:00:21] me when the lets encrypt [16:14:20] What will Parsoid do if it becomes defalt? How will it effect existing wikis? [16:16:41] Millions will perish [16:19:30] Why? [16:23:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451973198965903513/image.png?ex=69481eea&is=6946cd6a&hm=81e31f93a4df48d18d124e973a145b45a68e92feb666969f46605b72f32fa853& [16:23:28] [1/2] ХАХАХАХАХАХА [16:23:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451973288275480687/image.png?ex=69481f00&is=6946cd80&hm=fb42804d3db4c99f034356f6f95adfbb2f0cc08e0d0b1aea5eb9dd065bdf6001& [16:24:47] [1/2] АААААААААААААХААХАХАХА [16:24:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451973617255583844/G8nkGnlXkAAT0-R.png?ex=69481f4e&is=6946cdce&hm=b2cc03b52993f1f12ca75f9fe33941d49c18e4fbed5be772563466ac9cf40edf& [16:25:22] what. [16:26:02] @ncagych not entirely sure what that was but, let’s not, pleas? [16:26:43] Huh [16:26:48] Oh sorry [16:26:56] it was meant to sent to another server [16:26:59] sheesh [16:27:16] I am more intersted to know how Parsoid will affect templates and CSS [16:27:31] Understandable, we all make mistakes 🙂 [16:27:46] The colors of the roles were just so similar I thought I was on a different server lol [16:28:05] fair nuff [16:28:38] It was awkward [17:32:08] [1/3] No way this thing just does that for absolutely no reason [17:32:08] [2/3] 5d34f3b9ead2de74f9ec5064 [17:32:08] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451990567234830387/Screenshot_2025-12-20-22-30-44-756_com.opera.browser-edit.jpg?ex=69482f17&is=6946dd97&hm=4dc7109e48e10ad7d9a14e5df373b9427d9eec194cba9b1f63c4fa6d0296a360& [17:32:25] Also, what changes is MediaWiki making of note I should be awqare of? [17:32:27] I was refreshing the page bro what you need🙏😭 [17:32:46] man [17:33:03] how are you importing template, as file or via dropdown? [17:33:28] file, I literally deleted all the templates except for the stable personality template [17:33:51] It's on english so there's no problems w it [17:34:11] scroll Special:Import a bit down, there's another method of import w/ a dropdown of source wiki [17:34:16] there must be dev [17:34:33] Tried to do that also, gives that error too [17:34:37] On dropdown [17:34:52] we usually discourage using file import because MediaWiki is dumb in this regard [17:34:55] hm [17:36:29] I was trying to enter the article on the wiki, and it gives me this error [17:41:00] what are the differences between variables and dpl's dplvar? is one better than the other? [17:45:38] should be fixed now [17:45:46] could've said you just had smw enabled [17:46:17] [1/3] logo for my wiki [17:46:17] [2/3] ew it saves as a webp [17:46:18] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451994128605909204/Tokuwiki_logo.webp?ex=69483269&is=6946e0e9&hm=bf57887ee97e8dc004198fd51fcb056ceeae6e3c1bbd8cd9e01ff8cfea76d63d& [17:46:21] can i have it not do that [17:47:58] for the low low price of a box of chocolates or a huge "pwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" i can yeet webp optimization from your wiki [17:48:47] you can also ask your browser to not ask for webps, although that isn't necessarily easy [17:48:54] pwease [17:48:59] also i wanna do that too [17:49:17] the browser thing [17:49:41] that's a very small pwease [17:49:58] pretty pretty please with a cherry on top [17:50:21] ok that's pretty but it's not a huuuuuuugeeeee one [17:50:31] still taking the cherry though [17:51:28] [1/2] PWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEE [17:51:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1451995430790500362/image.png?ex=6948339f&is=6946e21f&hm=105503e0ae0d2d396f7eb4666b1b5c5f57839054f1550a348ddf4577f054ccfa& [17:52:34] thank you! you order has been received! the expected arrival time is 3 forgotten phorge tickets [17:52:49] (like 3 minutes idk) [17:53:12] do i gotta give you the link ooor do you still have it [17:53:58] tokuwin, yeah? [17:55:04] please drop tlink to template [17:55:43] tbh building your own portable infobox would be quicker atp w/ all these import errors [17:57:23] okay now how do i do this [17:59:26] actually forgot google exists [17:59:39] i've no idea tbh, you can either use an extension [17:59:58] or avoid the problem completely by manually changing .webp to .png everytime you download a file [18:06:55] @two_squar3d should be all pngs now [18:07:13] aka you wont need to do magic sorcery to get pngs on your wiki [18:07:32] Use IE6 /j [18:07:49] does that piece of junk even do TLS 1.3 [18:08:07] ah who am i kidding not even win10 does it [18:09:03] I'm sure you can do some proxy shenanigans to make it work [18:10:00] i'm sure [NOPP]] wont get in the way of that [18:11:04] What's that ? [18:12:09] you would have a link if i had remembered one more bracket [18:12:15] [[NOPP]] [18:12:15]

[18:13:59] What's the diff between an open and a close proxy, is it like only publicly available proxies that get blocked ? [18:15:12] Anyway it only prevent anonymous editing [18:15:27] So as long as you are logged in it would be fine [18:20:29] true [18:20:42] mostly just means VPNs yeah [18:27:04] NO PP [18:27:36] i'm dying 😂😂😂 [18:39:36] how come when i use templates in the visual editor it doesn't work like another wiki i saw that uses templates in the visual editor [18:40:07] templates need TemplateData to work in VisualEditor [18:40:52] how do i do that [18:43:54] turned on the setting in additional settings [18:43:55] it worked [18:59:02] is there a way to change the name of a template in all pages that use it [18:59:21] You mean update it after moving the page? [18:59:28] yes [19:00:46] You could either leave the old name as a redirect or use smt like Extension:ReplaceText, [[dev:JWB]], [[WP:AWB]] [19:00:47]