[00:06:57] oklch is easier to use if you want a load of similar colours, you just need to define a few variables. oklch also can do more colours than rgb [00:08:28] e.g. if you want to make something that's slightly darker than a previous value, just change the light value [00:19:06] for the first image, the second cell is supposed to be in the font but instead it's defaulting [00:19:23] i've tried like 5 different ways to link the font file, all haven't worked [00:32:04] man, chat's empty [00:57:47] isn't this just hsl? [00:58:04] come to think of it I haven't seen that used on wikis [01:08:56] iirc oklch is more modern [01:16:02] Really? I've seen other Russian-language wikis using templates from Wikipedia. [01:22:52] Wikidata templates from Wikipedia won't work on there [01:42:10] wikitext links dont work in css [02:35:21] So, i have to do it myself/download from devs wiki? [03:58:23] raw font url please [04:21:10] Funnily enough, two of the most popular skins in Miraheze have C as their starting word [04:36:32] mediawiki skin written in c [04:47:06] please no we don't want to bully random into doing C security reviews [05:02:21] Ccurity [05:18:41] [1/2] Born to drive trains [05:18:41] [2/2] Forced to do C security reviews [06:17:48] [1/2] does anyone know how to make a live countdown timer? i tried using this but this requires a page refresh it appears like [06:17:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1452908028918501406/Screenshot_2025-12-23-13-42-28-62_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=694b858b&is=694a340b&hm=1438387bccdf0bb426e4208a61a51c5ef7ada1744c454e1c2278060fc959a184& [06:25:21] You need to use JavaScript. Example: [[mh:Dev:Countdown]] [06:25:21] [06:26:24] Alternatively you can enable [[mw:Extension:CountDownClock]] which is prolly easier to set up, but you get less flexibility [06:26:25] [06:28:43] ah thanks [07:04:23] can i code python and run it on a wiki 🤔 [07:10:27] no because mw support either lua or js [07:22:09] nooo [07:22:11] 😭 [07:22:17] my beloved python [07:25:48] You can use pywikibot to make edits to your wiki does that count? [09:19:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1452953852868427900/hu429Y4.png?ex=694bb039&is=694a5eb9&hm=00ac95b4652cc310eb2185fd582f7591b4349812d4ae0896446cfa524e7e3bd7& [09:20:00] how do i make these div boces more responsive [09:20:05] this code is not mine [09:20:08] but they use fixed values [09:20:12] for the width and height [09:27:04] use percentage values idk [09:33:30] Width/Height as a percentage is always preferred I think as it allows the object to readjust based on screen. [11:09:38] That, or remove the Wikidata stuff from the templates/modules (like we have done on DEV for that reason [11:10:43] im looking to learn formatting but have no idea where to start.. ive been messing with tabbers for the past hour but can't manage to make what I want to [11:11:38] already did this, but the problem still stays [11:12:24] Explain what you want to do. We can guide you where to look [11:13:39] Link to your wiki? [11:13:54] (Perhaps better to open a Support thread) [11:14:26] https://aylonworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Заглавная_страница [11:15:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1452982842911883324/image.png?ex=694bcb38&is=694a79b8&hm=91f44f3ff6bf4fd3ad02199f55cd98009733e3ab9edec0924dc05809f0d6f4d9& [11:15:17] (cost/description/creator are just text) [11:16:03] i cant really figure out anything beyond just putting text in them [11:16:06] im not the brightest [11:17:14] ive never touched formatting before but these people said they only have 4 for the entire wiki and having more would be appreciated.. so im trying to contribute more than just gifs and writing [11:17:51] you need to larn basics of HTML [11:18:12] Replace https://aylonworld.miraheze.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%BB%D1%8C:Infobox with https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Infobox [11:18:15] tabber is not everything [11:18:33] where would be a good place to start on that? [11:18:49] it's like a constructor, you put blocks and elements inside each othe [11:19:06] plenty of free tutorials online, like w3c school [11:19:19] just copy the code and put it in Модуль? [11:19:26] *by [11:19:27] start w/ "container"
[11:19:29] Yes [11:19:59] Remove the original content, place the module from DEV in stead in there [11:20:31] ok [11:20:33] did it [11:20:33] alright, thanks for the starting point ^ ^ [11:22:13] Did it fix the error? [11:23:12] lemme see [11:23:14] Apparently I am too inexperienced to update the favicon for a wiki [11:23:22] no [11:23:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1452984934141657201/image.png?ex=694bcd2b&is=694a7bab&hm=4cbd98cc361f3cb9c282e4cc9ae0ad4699b7ca6f0ccb3fbb9a60e3a4e7175a3d& [11:23:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_change_my_logo_or_favicon I tried following this guide but it doesnt seem to have worked [11:24:06] Can you link to that page please? [11:24:49] https://aylonworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Шаблон:Государство [11:26:49] show the setting [11:28:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1452986129400725664/grafik.png?ex=694bce48&is=694a7cc8&hm=1caa3869cef54be184a13d6100957562bd1aff38727def252d7571e1d555109c& [11:28:40] looks right [11:28:46] try to purge cache [11:29:07] That did the trick [11:29:07] there's a button or add `?action=purge` in URL [11:29:35] some things eill take time or a kick to strat working [11:34:37] [1/3] I'm limited by the fact that the source cannot be translated in my browser, So it's hard for me to look for. [11:34:37] [2/3] @theoneandonlylegroom Could you take a look? [11:34:38] [3/3] All these templates/modules Contain Wikidata searches, and those would need to be removed. As this is in Cyrillic I can not read what templates/Modules they are [11:35:24] They use Wikipedia's templates, expecting to populate the fields for them, but it doesn't. [11:36:00] `Модуль:Uses_Wikidata на строке 13: attempt to index field 'wikibase' (a nil value).` [11:46:35] [1/3] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_country is the equivilence of [11:46:36] [2/3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_country The English version of the Russian module you are using. [11:46:36] [3/3] Our templates and modules are simpler, but unfortunately, not in your language. [11:49:54] i can translate it, right? [11:50:31] [1/3] Yes. [11:50:31] [2/3] Or you could see if this old version would work from ru.wikipedia [11:50:31] [3/3] https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE&action=edit&oldid=51344016 [11:50:52] But again, I am unable to read Russian [11:51:06] But it doesn't contain Wikidata calls [11:51:48] Most templates prior to 2012/2013 will not contain Wikidata [11:55:07] You can look at the history of each template/module, and replicate how it worked back then. [11:55:29] Just make sure that you find all the necessary dependencies. [11:57:10] yay it finally worked [11:57:13] thanks [12:00:52] you know me, ain't touching modules [12:01:04] not even talking about wikidata [13:16:42] how can i make an infobox? [13:17:13] nvm [13:17:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Infoboxes [13:25:53] hsl can do that but not as well. oklch's light value is based on how it looks, whereas with hsl a yellow colour with 50% light looks like a completely different brightness to a brown colour with 50% light [13:32:20] [1/10] why is my infobox blank? [13:32:20] [2/10] ``` [13:32:21] [3/10] [13:32:21] [4/10] [13:32:21] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [5/10] <image source="StartArea.png"> [13:32:21] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [6/10] <caption source="The starter area, being at stage 1" /> [13:32:22] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [7/10] /image [13:32:22] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [8/10] /infobox [13:32:22] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [9/10] ``` [13:32:23] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [10/10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453017382284169403/image.png?ex=694beb63&is=694a99e3&hm=99ec234b07a30336173ca2b0e77d566e718253ecb9e93fbf72d925cc4481cecd& [13:32:29] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> you can see a faint outline [13:35:47] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> but other than that, nothing [13:37:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> that's not how infobox is used [13:38:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you create a template [13:38:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> then you use template on normal page [13:38:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> the `<infobox>...` code has to be on Template: page [13:38:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> please read the guide carefully [13:42:11] <MirahezeRelay> <ncagych> [1/4] Some slight issues [13:42:11] <MirahezeRelay> <ncagych> [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453019854708670565/image.png?ex=694bedb1&is=694a9c31&hm=3a752313db4ccd139c41bc58361187f71a18d2cc20baf14e551b7aa50dce8e5c& [13:42:12] <MirahezeRelay> <ncagych> [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453019861394526479/image.png?ex=694bedb2&is=694a9c32&hm=e10489774b3f2bcecf8a9fc0588dc5b04b69c7e9de8dd26d188eaebdabb0218e& [13:42:12] <MirahezeRelay> <ncagych> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453019861918679183/image.png?ex=694bedb2&is=694a9c32&hm=7f5750ec0dc5d30f4f29619ae125a6aa94f95b55212948ed93249589f0fb482f& [14:46:58] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to ncagych> were you russian to put it together... [14:54:28] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> get out /lh [15:04:08] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [1/29] can anyone help? im (not) trying to work out a solution on how to make an infobox gain well.. info [15:04:08] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [2/29] ## In Template:Infobox [15:04:08] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [3/29] ``` [15:04:09] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [4/29] <infobox> [15:04:09] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [5/29] <title source="title"> [15:04:09] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [6/29] <default>{{PAGENAME}}/default [15:04:09] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [7/29] /title [15:04:10] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [8/29] <image source="image"> [15:04:10] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [9/29] <caption source="imagecaption" /> [15:04:10] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [10/29] /image [15:04:11] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [11/29] <data source="position"> [15:04:11] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [12/29] <label>Position/label [15:04:11] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [13/29] /data [15:04:12] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [14/29] <data source="age"> [15:04:12] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [15/29] <label>Age/label [15:04:13] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [16/29] /data [15:04:13] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [17/29] <data source="status"> [15:04:14] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [18/29] <label>Status/label [15:04:14] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [19/29] /data [15:04:15] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [20/29] <data source="height"> [15:04:15] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [21/29] <label>Height/label [15:04:16] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [22/29] <format>{{{height}}} inches/format [15:04:16] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [23/29] /data [15:04:17] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [24/29] <data source="weight"> [15:04:17] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [25/29] <label>Weight/label [15:04:18] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [26/29] <format>{{{weight}}} grams/format [15:04:18] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [27/29] /data [15:04:19] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [28/29] /infobox [15:04:19] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> [29/29] ``` [15:19:00] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched, replying to aasdsasdfa> what's the issue here? [15:19:04] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> looks like its working [15:28:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [1/9] this is proper code of template [15:28:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [2/9] now you gotta use [15:28:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [3/9] `{{template name here [15:28:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [4/9] |parameter name = value [15:28:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [5/9] ... [15:28:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [6/9] }}` [15:28:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [7/9] this is usage code^ [15:28:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [8/9] parameter is inside `source="..."`, like [15:28:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aasdsasdfa> [9/9] `|imagecaption = Sample Text` [15:33:41] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa, replying to toosplatched> i want to add images and stuff [15:34:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] provide values to parameters, image will need a filename [15:34:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] `|image = Random.png` [15:35:50] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> okay thanks [15:47:24] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> and how can i change the font and spacing (i want it to be some font and be spaced in the middle) [15:48:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> this is CSS territory [15:48:23] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> and you're not really a css guy? [15:49:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I love to suffer poke CSS but currently not in condition to provide examples [15:50:01] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa> oh wait how do i make a css page? [15:51:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] for starters MediaWiki:Common.css page is enough [15:51:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] it doesn't exist by default, you just create it [15:51:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] the process of changing CSS of wiki is poking page w/ element inspector, tweak things in its console and then add changes to that CSS page [15:52:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1319311694979403849 [16:48:48] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d, replying to toosplatched> https://tokuwin.miraheze.org/wiki/File:linja_elito.ttf [16:49:40] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> not raw font [16:49:55] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> click the blue link [16:50:08] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> in linja_elito.ttf (file size: 8 KB, MIME type: unknown/sfnt) [16:51:24] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> ohh [16:51:36] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> [1/2] like this? [16:51:36] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453067528908705822/image.png?ex=694c1a17&is=694ac897&hm=9f322a3fb98c65501d8470cc781e2e0159334127356cfb467f98024bc5612aa6& [16:53:15] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> Yes [16:53:24] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> and its not truetype its ttf [16:54:18] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched> make sure to also add font-display: swap; [16:56:26] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> okay [16:56:56] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d, replying to toosplatched> format("ttf"); ? [17:00:52] <MirahezeRelay> <aasdsasdfa, replying to aasdsasdfa> does anyone know how i can make this [17:10:00] <MirahezeRelay> <papasoma> [1/2] ok question [17:10:00] <MirahezeRelay> <papasoma> [2/2] how do you give people permissions on your wiki? [17:11:41] <MirahezeRelay> <justleafy2003, replying to papasoma> yourwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/SomeonesName [17:12:17] <MirahezeRelay> <papasoma> thank you [17:12:55] <MirahezeRelay> <justleafy2003> np [17:14:46] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched, replying to two_squar3d> yes [17:15:03] <MirahezeRelay> <papasoma, replying to justleafy2003> [1/2] question 2: [17:15:03] <MirahezeRelay> <papasoma, replying to justleafy2003> [2/2] which permission handles change moderations? [17:15:33] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d, replying to two_squar3d> did i put the class in my template correctly [17:17:02] <MirahezeRelay> <papasoma> nvm got it [17:20:24] <MirahezeRelay> <toosplatched, replying to two_squar3d> Yes [17:21:44] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> so i just gotta wait for the css to update ✌️ [17:26:18] <MirahezeRelay> <janebuzjane> You can add `?debug=2` to the end of your URL to bypass the cache [17:26:29] <MirahezeRelay> <janebuzjane> and view your changes [17:26:32] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg> [1/2] I'd like to include a map (image) on my wiki, but it's copyrighted. I found it on a Wiki, and this is what they say about it. Is that actually legal? Can I just assert that it's fair use? [17:26:32] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453076319016321157/Screenshot_from_2025-12-23_12-11-38.png?ex=694c2247&is=694ad0c7&hm=3f735c231f32681ce07fe62d3d3751c6925697104d881d381e4e44b224cfe7f0& [17:27:09] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg, replying to janebuzjane> ?action=purge works too [17:27:28] <MirahezeRelay> <justleafy2003, replying to the_erg> the vast majority of the images are copyrighted anyway [17:27:51] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg> true, but am I going to getinto trouble here if I post that image [17:28:37] <MirahezeRelay> <justleafy2003> technically yes [17:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <justleafy2003> however, if you have to use it, you can still upload it, add a fair use license template, and most importantly, use it for a good reason [17:29:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to the_erg> [1/2] No, you can't actually. [17:29:29] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong, replying to the_erg> [2/2] An image can only be used to explain, criticise, educate... [17:29:50] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> [[w:Fair use]] [17:29:56] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use> [17:30:29] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg> thanks all [17:30:42] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg> im not gonna risk it. [17:30:45] <MirahezeRelay> <justleafy2003> np [17:32:27] <MirahezeRelay> <rodejong> commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, and scholarship, as well as parody and search engines. [17:43:12] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> it's either not updating or the code is broken [17:51:23] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> fixed it [17:51:57] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> [1/2] when i set my font size using rem, when i change these settings the font size doesn't change accordingly [17:51:58] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453082720023482589/image.png?ex=694c283d&is=694ad6bd&hm=a3015c9c10b145c8eb598a790a0ac05ae7e8049c51ff7b8b3ec99df07808dcda& [17:57:49] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to two_squar3d> these change some css variables, so for example instead of setting `font-size: 1rem` you should do `font-size: var(--font-size-medium)` [17:59:32] <MirahezeRelay> <bartomelow> anyone knows any wikis that use the Cosmos skin that looks pretty cool [18:02:36] <MirahezeRelay> <two_squar3d, replying to thewwrnerdguy> what would be the other sizes [18:21:27] <MirahezeRelay> <notaracham, replying to the_erg> If you are using a subsection of the map as it relates to the original topic, it is permissible under fair use, to clarify [18:23:07] <MirahezeRelay> <the_erg, replying to notaracham> I'm not, but thanks [19:55:57] <MirahezeRelay> <amelialoveheart> Is there a wiki topic classification for toys and collectibles? [20:16:56] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to two_squar3d> [1/2] these ones [20:16:56] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to two_squar3d> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453119201085751520/image.png?ex=694c4a37&is=694af8b7&hm=69bc8f345a4b9f91a149f4d4e77f6e9e0348be01353723598ecdaa5dd77ef5bb& [20:49:01] <MirahezeRelay> <mathlover0908> [1/2] Looking for a reliable collaborator from America, Europe or Australia - Sharing their freelancing account or getting jobs together. [20:49:01] <MirahezeRelay> <mathlover0908> [2/2] I will do the work and we will share the income. I just need support from you [20:56:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> @Discord Moderators [20:57:00] <MirahezeRelay> <stardustsheep.> [1/2] Some updates are due since last time I visited here for help: I tried to convert my scrappy spreadsheets into F1 wiki styled standings tables, but the template for the ones on Wikipedia aren't easily replicable. So I had to do some... reverse engineering. [20:57:01] <MirahezeRelay> <stardustsheep.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453129288596324403/image.png?ex=694c539c&is=694b021c&hm=e0a323dea16e8c30bcce8b4505e30b297aea57e16b60d46061bfc13266a5638b& [20:57:49] <MirahezeRelay> <stardustsheep.> I have my own horrible unsightly spreadsheet through which I convert a simple spreadsheet full of stuff like nationalities, names, final positions and points into code, then simply insert that into my wiki [20:58:06] <MirahezeRelay> <stardustsheep.> It looks pretty nice, so I wouldn't say it was a waste of time. [21:02:28] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [1/4] Hi all, [21:02:28] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [2/4] I wanted to change my site skin from Minerva to Citizen but when I did it the Mobile version end up this way due to me needing to disable the Mobilefrontend setting. [21:02:29] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [3/4] Can I know what code I need to input to fix it, at least to make it look like what Minerva skin does, just the basic aesthetic? [21:02:29] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1453130663598493788/Screenshot_20251223_143552_Chrome.jpg?ex=694c54e4&is=694b0364&hm=3f2403129b3cc4fdab01369938b52a8687bfd46802d9f90ddd619d7e46e059e8& [21:03:47] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Have you tried refreshing? It looks a lot like the css just didn't/isn't loading [21:05:03] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> i did clean my cache and refresh and that happened. my css has nothing inside so dont think it will affect the skin yet? [21:07:48] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology, replying to 896setsuki> link? [21:08:26] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to pskyechology> [1/2] https://catsandsoupmagicrecipe.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [21:08:26] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to pskyechology> [2/2] it's back to minerva skin for now [21:09:37] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology, replying to 896setsuki> citizen is not enabled? [21:09:56] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> like you dont have to change the default skin to that yet but i cant help with the issue if it is disabled [21:10:13] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to pskyechology> i'll enable it [21:10:35] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> should i untick minerva too? [21:10:45] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> no you can keep it [21:10:48] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> ok [21:11:03] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> keeping them enabled has no negative effects [21:11:19] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> done enabling citizen skin [21:18:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> @896setsuki im not seeing any issues now, what happens if you change the skin to citizen? [21:20:34] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to pskyechology> if i change to citizen, then the mobile version has that issue [21:22:59] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> tried on different mobile devices and different web browsers for mobile, all have this issue [21:24:14] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology, replying to 896setsuki> are you enabling mobilefrontend to test this and then disabling it right away [21:26:21] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [1/4] i disable it when i switch to citizen [21:26:22] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [2/4] i tried enabling both skins at the same time when you said it doesn't affect but it still look the same [21:26:22] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [3/4] so i disable it again to check [21:26:22] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> [4/4] but enabling it back and unticking citizen fix the mobile version [21:27:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> i have a feeling this is causing some caching shenanigans, please keep mobilefrontend disabled [21:27:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> citizen doesn't need it as it natively sizes itself correctly to mobile without mobilefrontend [21:29:09] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to pskyechology> 👌 i'll try keeping this setting for a day or two to see if it fix, thanks [21:30:06] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology, replying to 896setsuki> you can add `?debug=2` to the url to see if everything is working as it should [21:31:19] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to pskyechology> 😮 it worked, thanks! [21:31:30] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> ok cool, seems like it is caching shenanigans then [21:31:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pskyechology> that'll take a tiny bit to clear up [22:16:37] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki> is there a way to auto hide appearance and contents details for mobile version? [22:17:45] <MirahezeRelay> <thesillyrblx> What's the setting in ManageWiki that makes it so edits must be approved before being added to a page? [22:18:57] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thesillyrblx> moderation extension, but think if you really need it [22:46:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to 896setsuki> aren't those hidden away behind menus anyway? [22:52:28] <MirahezeRelay> <896setsuki, replying to thewwrnerdguy> not sure if it's because i just recently switch it from Minerva to Citizen, but it appears even after i put the debug in URL/clear cache