[00:00:41] Hmmm, that's a @Technology Team question, if you already have a [[phorge]] ticket open on issue tracker that's where I'd follow up/file this (iss [00:00:42]

[00:01:33] alright, i checked there and i wasnt sure if this would fall there so ill go do that rn! tyy [00:04:02] Yeah, that's definitely the best venue, followed by #support as a distant second [00:04:21] As this is the sort of issue that requires details and a good amount of back and forth [00:52:11] feels weird that this pings me. kinda fun [03:27:39] hey guys [03:27:49] how do i enable the drafts extension [03:32:10] You can't, it was disabled globally for causing issues [03:33:30] bro [03:33:43] how am i supposed to save my edit drafts now [03:34:05] (for reference sometimes my pc crashes and i lose progress) [03:40:17] You can enable edit recovery in your preferences, that'll make it so you don't lose progress when that happens [03:44:35] what issues did it cause, you've made me curious [03:45:33] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11970 [03:56:15] is there a verdict? [03:57:40] Seems fine [03:58:41] If an appeal will not be pursued or was denied (again I don’t have access to Steward email) adding a main page notice should be doable [03:59:21] I’d rather not do to tonight given I need to be up and awake in 6 hours and need sleep but you can DM me the link [03:59:36] okay, thats fine [03:59:40] i'll do that in a minute [05:37:59] does citizen skin not have a search bar on mobile when you're on a page? [05:50:34] oh wait it's a bottom toolbar that autohides [06:00:24] with the use of box-shadow I might be able to make citizen work with a background image visible on the margins [06:03:59] To be fair, if it were up to me I would have disabled Visual Editor entirely (because it is hot garbage) and kept Drafts [06:10:12] Drafts can be reenabled if another security review passes and it works. We can define a conflict in ManageWiki. [06:10:30] ;o [06:32:10] I mean... Google sheets or notepad, etc. do the same job too [06:34:33] Or just not using drafts like I do [06:34:54] I create a page and just slap some info in there until I'm ready to actually flesh the page out [07:34:21] How do I force an additional line space in an infobox? [07:36:21] [1/2] Like if I wanted an extra space between the third and fourth lines here? [07:36:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481556437627961364/image.png?ex=69b3be74&is=69b26cf4&hm=8943176e4686bfb2b8c4d692a82ac32dc46f0d40b3fb32658ccc4d671e532af2& [08:11:59] [1/5] bro [08:11:59] [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481565405595308052/1.jpg?ex=69b3c6ce&is=69b2754e&hm=58862a878bce1a6c23a6d9b3adbfdf1312bfce84fc66220ca1eabb87c18e690d& [08:12:00] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481565406035443742/2.jpg?ex=69b3c6ce&is=69b2754e&hm=588fe35acf778c51e527116471d10702d22998d7f4a786d1eb503c84bbb01453& [08:12:00] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481565406547283968/3.jpg?ex=69b3c6cf&is=69b2754f&hm=ae599a5d7822e02a60ddb8a7de3529d0ec0a22c5094dd397edebdf2606eb3e33& [08:12:00] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481565406857793647/4.jpg?ex=69b3c6cf&is=69b2754f&hm=fd6b12c317c49a9be0da7e490564ac7e0caa25d80907283ca354a3b413ba2e51& [08:12:39] @Discord Moderators [08:23:38] Dealt with thanks! [08:23:45] Thanks [09:14:46] Updated donate template and page translations to ru [09:15:14] didnt we reach 10k 2 days ago 😭 why is it at 9975 now [09:16:25] Should be good to go now, going to work on the WikiTide foundation related pages (the actual hard legal stuff) later [09:17:52] The number is lower because wikis get deleted for various reasons, look in [[Deleted wikis]] [09:19:36] oh i meant the discord server count [09:19:50] shouldve specified my badd [09:20:36] People leave, it's normal. [09:31:13] Ye, server member counts are highly unstable. [09:31:50] That's under 1% fluctuation, which is pretty normal. [10:49:15] @pskyechology hi out of curiosity which fischipedia page is worst for mirahezes servers [11:29:40] [1/3] Yo everyone, anyone here using Shopify or trading on the side? [11:29:41] [2/3] I mainly focus on Shopify been running my setup for about a year now and I’m consistently doing around $6k/day. I still trade along the way too, and I’ve had some big trading days before, up to $50k, but Shopify is where I’m solid and steady. [11:29:41] [3/3] With March here, I know a lot of people are trying to kick off the year strong whether through trading, reselling, or starting something on the side. The start of the year is the perfect time to build momentum, pay off bills, or just get a little extra cash flowing. Nobody wants to start the year stressed or stuck financially. [11:29:47] @everyone [11:39:35] @Discord Moderators [11:43:27] cheers [11:56:08] double duty ei [11:56:14] why was the YouTube extension removed? [11:57:11] did it have security vulnerabitilies or something else [11:59:11] Incompatibility with newer MediaWiki version IIRC [11:59:24] Also EmbedVideo does what YouTube does [12:10:33] I'm not Skye, but https://fischipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostWikiPoints takes so long to calculate the top 20 users with the most WikiPoints that the server times out before it can finish - this has been fixed in the latest version, which is pending a security review [12:19:38] [1/2] general question friends, I have someone from russia saying they can't access our wiki. does miraheze generally block traffic from russia or is there a known issue with that? [12:19:38] [2/2] -# (I assume not, as this is the first time I heard about that and we do have a number of russian users on the game) [12:24:51] ic ic [12:29:01] [1/2] Hello everyone, quick question here [12:29:01] [2/2] how do i set the visibility of a page or namespace to a specific group? (in my case, i want the Admin: namespace to be visible only ADmins) [12:29:21] do i need an extension for this or is there something out of the box that allows me to do this? [12:34:15] more that russia blocks cloudflare [12:34:53] ah I see, thanks [12:51:44] Neither - you can only mark your whole wiki as private and whitelist specific pages [13:37:30] heello [13:53:34] is mh having issues [13:53:37] my css wont apply [13:53:49] ive debug=2'ed, cached, cookied, new browsered, waited [13:58:14] hmm what's the wiki link [13:59:21] incognitoed? [14:00:28] yes [14:00:43] [14:02:39] can you show me the caching headers of the request to the css [14:06:21] am i supposed to know what this means [14:06:44] all http requests have headers but i can check myself now [14:07:59] oh yeah i misconfigured a thing, it wasn't giving much results either way [14:08:46] try now @kai84 [14:15:10] oh god... capital links option is good, but it's annoying that the extension makes this difference even in the search bar where it should show regardless of whether the letters are lowercase or not [14:15:27] still doesnt seem to be updating [14:39:33] yeah I seem to have issues updating my CSS too [14:40:00] ```?debug=true``` seems to help a bit but it didn't for my latest versions [14:53:13] an hour now it hasnt updated [14:53:17] something is for sure wrong [14:58:46] Try an incognito window. If a CSS/JS file is marked to have an extremely long TTL it can live in your browser cache for a long time. If that doesn't work we may need to purge Cloudflare's cache manually. [15:00:19] no I've looked on browsers on two different computers and my mobile device, something is defintely up unfortunately [15:05:44] [1/2] i also have this situation, [15:05:45] [2/2] debug=true for me kind shows an older version of my css, while action=purge and waiting for a bit usually does the trick [15:16:57] tried this [15:20:22] ate your cache for good measure 😋 [15:21:00] hiiiii [15:21:14] it is now here [15:21:17] good morning to anyone reading this [15:21:23] mornyan [15:21:24] oh look its kai [15:21:30] and Skye! [15:21:40] lmk if you make a change and i can look if its still being a persistent silly [15:21:42] hey that rhymes! [15:22:06] damn did they give you memory loss when you moved to irc [15:22:17] irc lobotomy [15:22:28] ouch [15:22:54] crystalite loves relay [15:23:20] correct :heart_emoji [15:23:48] but my pe teacher is saying to go run to the wind [15:24:03] I don't wanna leave you guys! but I gotta [15:24:15] oh woe the public education system [15:30:12] just made a change and it all seems to be updating fine, thanks for help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:31:01] hooray, reminder to self to yeet caches after removing funky caching rules [15:55:09] no such luck for me [16:07:47] I return [16:23:54] unfortunately cloudflare does not have wildcard cache purging so i'm gonna need to bother you for your wiki's url [16:24:05] neither did i put a tag in [16:24:32] https://planita.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [16:25:20] done 👍 [16:25:41] shouldn't bother you again, sorry for the bother [16:29:57] yeah ti works thanks! [16:56:20] do you need to do it again after I update the CSS or should it work normally from now on [16:56:36] should work normally but scream if it doesnt [16:57:06] should be a much shorter delay between it appearing live [16:57:21] an hour max, and should definitely appear with `?debug=2` [17:00:12] I have a question about mediawiki's feature to gather images from hotlinking (file uploads through url). Is mediawiki smart enough to recognize the same url multiple time? [17:02:14] if you mean whether it will detect duplicates from that URL, then yes it does [17:02:25] neat. [17:03:20] if the file on the url has changed and the user changes the default filename then it wont give any warnings though [17:03:49] It caches the source url, then don't bother to update. Got it. [17:07:30] although if the filename provided by the url stays consistent then it will give a warning (even if the user specifies a custom filename beforehand, since it overrides that) [17:11:07] so, assuming I have a remote with files: `token/dragon.jpg` and `full/dragon.jpg`, does mediawiki only cares about the filename and produce a duplicate warning? [17:12:01] Or would mediawiki transduce the path into the new filename? [17:12:06] it will read both as dragon.jpg [17:12:27] well, that's not good. [17:15:46] Would there be a way to hack the feature so it takes the remote's folder into account? [17:30:08] no super easy ways, javascript if anything [17:31:52] I don't understand. I'm trying to migrate an old screwturn wiki, which has a bunch of images. I was hoping that hard linking images could be an easy way out of handling medias on a per file basis. I assume the feature to upload through url doesn't care about javascript? [17:35:35] if you're migrating en masse from somewhere then I would use something that doesn't involve doing it manually [17:36:07] I'm working on that. But images are annoying. [17:36:58] ...are you manually copying everything over? [17:37:14] that's not only bothersome but also a license violation [17:41:11] t&s skye has awoken [17:41:24] No. I'm writing a converter and plan to use pywikibot and the mediawiki api to port over the pages content. As for the license, it's somewhat irrelevant. Content is mostly under OGL, and it's a work for the community itself. The current editor for pathfinder 1e is in the process of moving home, and is only available for consulting. All of this was specified in the application btw. [17:42:49] The main issue is the artistic direction, finding or writing replacements for the screwturn template system (called snippets) and handling medias like images. [17:45:32] i do wonder how ogl applies to images and copying them to somewhere else [17:45:33] brb [17:46:32] https://paizo.com/licenses/communityuse [17:46:59] no worries i can do my own googling [17:48:48] And the work I'm doing is on behalf of the pathfinder-fr community. [17:49:32] The images I'm talking about are hosted on the current wiki. [17:51:36] yeah you're fine, just spooked me from a moment since i assumed the default of migrating from fandom and not something that uses ASP.NET [17:51:55] since your entire community is behind this move, are they not able to get the images from the current host? [17:54:50] I could, but I don't see how it resolve my issue. [17:55:20] are there many conflicting filenames? [17:56:21] could just have the javascript adjust the filename that is given based on the URL given [17:56:32] We don't know, I just asked the editor if he could verify. There's at least a `Drow.jpg` and `drow.jpg` [17:57:30] there never was a tale of more woe [17:57:40] then this of Wikia and it's jimbo [18:03:07] This thing is like over 10 years old of folks editing pages and using their own "styles". You sometimes get wikicode and sometimes raw html for the same result. All the images use the `` tag, which is joyous. [18:06:45] yeah converting the image tags to [[File:]] calls is not gonna be fun [18:07:00] it would be nice if they made a notion style version of VE tbh [18:07:06] realistically it's not going to be feasible but [18:07:15] I love the notion style of composing pages [18:07:34] do what you wanna see [18:07:44] it's beyond me [18:08:03] I can patch things into extensions but writing it from scratch is not really something I want to do lol [18:14:06] (before anyone suggest imgtag im gonna kill you because they still need to move the files off the old wiki) [18:17:59] Anyhow, the simplest way may just be a procedural renaming of all files as I convert the pages. [18:19:04] seems like it [18:19:13] hope there's not thousands [18:24:03] You could do a mass URL replace lol. Would be pretty difficult because the originals likely don't contain the md5 hash. Alternatively just do `Special:Filepath/something.png` and take the user through redirect hell. [18:24:49] redirects is a partial solution given the apparent amount of conflicting names [18:25:15] There are likely several thousands. [18:26:07] imagine if there's one lakh's worth [18:26:17] (i wanted to avoid saying thousands lol) [18:27:39] Hard to tell the number because the wiki is was also used for other purpose, like a place to do online campaigns. [18:28:10] owch [18:29:27] a bunch of stuff that's not going to be used and, thus, ignored [18:36:21] [1/3] playing around with the example template for navbox with columns and I'd like to do a couple things. Mainly I'd like to decrease the width slightly so it doesn't stretch the entire width of the page, and also I'd like to change the light blue/perwinkleish bg for the header and give it a border but I kinda forgot how. my assumption is it'd go somewhere here (2nd pic) right? [18:36:21] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481722532381069362/b0f6fcda73f05a7ed41de20c15b88cfb.png?ex=69b45924&is=69b307a4&hm=73bc054ece64b07abc95c6e978bad2fc4d0e99603398cfd2e1d0c6c7de2d1450& [18:36:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481722532716482822/bd674c8e085abe357c37710e28a0c134.png?ex=69b45924&is=69b307a4&hm=ccc1aead04ad7ee5791d24ca03e2a9e9a692070128bd4d61f046e84ea64faa44& [18:37:50] do you know how to do it tho [18:38:18] [[mw:help:edit recovery]] i presume [18:38:19]

[18:38:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Edit_Recovery [18:41:34] `bodystyle`, `groupstyle`, `titlestyle`, etc. When in doubt, consult the wikicode of the template (do a ctrl+f and search for the work style) [18:43:58] thank you! i'll experiment with those [18:47:06] [1/2] oh one more thing whats the code to deal with this? I want Penney to line up with the other names [18:47:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1481725238805790793/447579ede5fd2d5e22bdf8e013359fa6.png?ex=69b45baa&is=69b30a2a&hm=d2ae8c67998238eac0540e177230bfa959db2899f72d03cf2b70c6c5251849b1& [18:56:55] ok sorry to bother but im a bit confused as to where to place the code [18:57:50] or is it as long as its in that top section i took a screenshot of [18:57:58] that its fine. clicked enter too soon whoops [18:58:31] Yes. The "sections" is just for tidying up the information, mediawiki doesn't care. [18:58:53] what happens is that you assign data to a variable. [18:59:21] it become important if you start writing subnavboxes. [18:59:47] oh ok awesome!! and thankfully im working with someone more experienced in code but im trying to figure out some of these simpler navboxes myself [19:00:01] always good info to know :3 [19:00:09] Barely, I just went to the trouble of figuring out navboxes. [19:02:14] is there a place in dev wiki perhaps for lists of simple code like for example background:color or padding? im familiar with some but its good to have a full list as a reminder [19:07:49] `background: color;` it's just css [19:08:11] i just mean a list of the css' [19:08:22] but i found a website that has a lot in sections [19:09:08] Consult https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CSS [19:23:21] The IRC-Discord relay will be going down for a few minutes soon for an upgrade. [19:23:48] OH NOE [19:23:53] oh wait [19:23:55]