[03:31:52] [1/2] can anyone tell me why i, the wiki owner, am not allowed to press these buttons [03:31:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1486930731304485015/image.png?ex=69c74ba8&is=69c5fa28&hm=c74ebc83a8b35dfa08fa14897e364229dd897399a7a4c05789936a1059c9c7ad& [03:35:45] Semantic Mediawiki needs to be turned on by a steward which you can request at [[SR/RC]], the two below require Sematic Mediawiki to function, and cannot be used without it [03:35:46]

[03:37:41] You should look into using [[mw:Extension:Cargo]] instead of Semantic Mediawiki instead though, as it says its permanently experimental and is known to cause issues [03:37:42]

[03:55:51] We are not approving new uses of Semantic MediaWiki [03:56:26] We will only enable it for wikis moving onto our service that absolutely must maintain SMW for its functionality and cannot migrate to any alternatives. [04:37:33] Reminds me. We should update the help message to make this clearer. [07:26:51] Hi y'all [07:26:52] so uh [07:27:07] [1/2] How do I change this super gigantic Miraheze logo [07:27:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1486989933758513192/image.png?ex=69c782cb&is=69c6314b&hm=c4497a1c22caa04e4b393b0e65a748c10d909b02760c2bded75ac970809e993b& [07:55:02] if you're referring to the icon on the sidebar, it's under Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Styling, I believe [07:57:40] Ahh, ok [08:46:49] [1/2] Doesn't even work [08:46:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487009993055145994/image.png?ex=69c79579&is=69c643f9&hm=9bfb02816b32dcd15aef4575a7f7b58cf9a95ac529ddb1e97093807e18322e7a& [08:52:32] [1/2] NVM, works, but ONLY when I am in the page of the file. Bummer [08:52:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487011429218254959/image.png?ex=69c796d0&is=69c64550&hm=f1cf2199539ae45c45a0b1dfc6bf2629e9e2c6c16efc6374769ef0cf3c9fa676& [08:52:52] probably caching [08:53:16] how do i remove all that cache on desktop browsers [08:54:07] Alright, nvm I figured out [08:54:12] It works holy sh- [09:01:10] [1/2] And this corresponds to that, right? [09:01:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487013600953630831/image.png?ex=69c798d5&is=69c64755&hm=c80da893b8b3e52faf7bc562a57944a277f725fab7fd73f0148713af12d05d88& [09:01:30] I want to change the logo, beside just the "DREAMALONG WIKI" text [12:40:56] What exactly is semantic? [12:47:54] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki [12:48:14] basically, extension that allows you to do stuff outlined in [[help:structured data]] [12:48:15]

[12:48:48] What is the difference between it and bucket? [12:49:47] however it's massive, complex, unmaintained, has terrible performance, security vulnerabilities galore, breaks wikis constantly and that's just what I've heard from others, I haven't even used it myself [12:50:51] Bucket is much simpler and has better performance [12:52:50] Hello everyone [13:34:20] Bucket also pretty much only exists on weirdgloop wikis rn [13:48:49] how can i make a graph from data [13:49:06] line graph [15:09:11] is SEO already automatically set up when your wiki is made or [15:09:15] what do I need to do? [15:13:08] [1/3] * https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/WikiSEO_-_Improving_Search_Ranking [15:13:08] [2/3] * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiSEO [15:13:08] [3/3] * https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Draft:Improving_a_wiki's_SEO [16:59:29] hi guys, I'm trying to make a github page that autopurges a page daily for a certain reason. but I can't seem to make the script work. does anyone know any knowledge about this? [17:05:23] [1/2] there could be a number of reasons [17:05:24] [2/2] This looks like it might be an XY problem though, what's the reason for needing to purge a page daily? [17:06:03] to ensure that a page is update every 0:00 UTC since manual purging is dumb [17:06:07] on the battle cats wiki we at one point had a script that would do that using JS so it would be purged by visitors [17:06:17] can't you just use a JS timer? [17:06:33] for what reason would you need to update the page daily though? [17:07:23] random facts that cycle once everyday at 0:00 UTC [17:08:14] auto purge, not manual purge [17:09:14] right, but I think you're going about it the wrong way – there are extensions that randomly select from a predefined set of options that take care of this by disabling the PC for that particular page which is probably what you want [17:09:52] no predefined [17:09:59] then where are the facts coming from? [17:10:13] lua module [17:10:31] those are still predefined options though? [17:11:06] select 12 of 91 predefined options. [17:11:15] this sounds quite similar to https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:DailyUnit but I'm not sure exactly how that manages to update itself (I've asked the author) [17:11:24] not set of predefined options tho [17:12:17] okay you're not really understanding what I'm getting at [17:12:45] https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:DailyUnit [17:13:35] quite different... [17:13:55] not randomly choosing 1 fact, but 12 non-repeating facts [17:13:59] Although this doesn't really seem like it would work in theory since this code won't be ran every day if the page is still in the parser cache 🤔 [17:14:27] yeah that's what I'm wondering [17:14:35] might there be a daily purge...? [17:15:48] also I managed to log in with the bot once, just that... it has the wrong I.P. [17:17:00] anyway I think it would be easier to update it with a JS script since that can just be run when you're logged in [17:18:30] oh it seems to only be used on the main page which has a reduced parser cache storage time – I wonder why though, potentially due to the usage of `{{NUMBEROFUSERS}}` et al. [17:29:10] looks like it's `` [17:29:50] Oh interesting, I wonder why that would need to reduce the PC [17:31:25] I was trying to look through the code but gerrit thinks I'm a robot so guess I'll have to browse the code on GitHub 🤮 [17:32:02] It doesn't need to be super random, does it? I would just do some calculations on {{CURRENTDAY\}}, {{CURRENTMONTH\}}, and {{CURRENTYEAR\}} on Lua that approximates some random selection. [17:32:18] gerrit is so fucking ass for code browsing anyway change my mind [17:32:51] at least it doesn't require 900 GB for one tab [17:33:23] my potato Linux pc cannot handle github [17:33:23] I have 256 gb sata [17:34:38] [1/2] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-CommentStreams/blob/b0d2dc385e36d99c1063845ee0ab22cf6b79ed25/includes/CommentStreamsHandler.php#L162 [17:34:39] [2/2] wtf why [17:51:58] [1/2] I've just set up SEO with NA's guide [17:51:58] [2/2] Do you have to wait for it to show up in search engines? [17:52:13] I should probably read other guides later [17:53:54] Yes, the SEO takes time to roll through [17:54:17] Multiple factors go into showing up in search results, but Google being aware of your site is the first step [17:56:56] [1/2] @jasonthelee ^ [17:56:57] [2/2] Ping ya here so you won't ask about it later [17:57:17] What is other steps then? [17:57:27] Or...should I just read the guides [17:57:42] wait [17:57:46] and perform sacrifices [17:57:48] rain dances [17:57:52] whatever to please the machine gods [17:58:02] (no one knows how) [17:58:19] yay [17:58:24] it works now :D [17:58:33] Gonna sacrifice my wiki admins if they become complecent at any moment /j [18:00:10] Read the guides, there's lots of small things one can do to generally improve ranking [18:00:23] Organic traffic from whatever community cares about your topic does the most though [18:00:44] I see [18:00:54] Logical and good quality links between pages also helps [18:01:09] Spamming links between pages does not [18:06:53] friend just registered on miraheze and got immediately ip-blocked from editing for "long-term abuse". cant even search the username in my own wiki so i can enlist him as an admin [18:07:26] not even sure what's going on here [18:10:29] Tell em to email cvt about it [18:10:35] [[CVT]] [18:10:41]

[18:10:48] Okay wikibot is kind of slow [18:11:35] Probably said friend was an lta or the lta used the ip your friend was using for them to hit your friend [18:12:09] Hoping that made sense [18:13:50] @remy_rose pinging for assurance that you got the message [18:47:22] [1/3] I dunno where to post my assets for a wiki just for the sake of showing off, but uh [18:47:22] [2/3] what do y'all think? :] [18:47:23] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487161123659579663/image.png?ex=69c82239&is=69c6d0b9&hm=56e141b412ce2f29f491b267da43a2d8ff8ed23cbd813ce8a678f8521a916885& [19:21:45] <_chrs_, replying to thewwrnerdguy> this goes back to the first commit lmao [19:43:25] every day I hate commentstreams even more [19:50:25] Can we undeploy this [19:50:31] Wait [19:50:33] Green WWR? [19:50:53] bro evolved in front of my eyes [19:51:09] First dib on congrats [19:52:36] (On discord) [19:52:55] Congrats [19:53:30] continuing the trend of nobody having red for very long [19:53:55] :( [19:54:11] I wish [19:54:15] Sleepy dyno didn’t log smh [19:54:24] I looked at yappin and it doesn't seem to be usable on bc wiki [19:54:47] let's hope that there's some way to fix commentstreams parser shenanigans without breaking everything [19:54:55] @thewwrnerdguy congratulations on envolving like an pokemon lol [19:55:03] ty [19:58:05] Now we can ask the most important question... Are you a dog? [19:58:24] who let the dogs out [20:00:45] The Baha Men [20:03:23] Any features you want to add? I'm tempted to go back to my fork of Yappin and see if there are any changes that make sense. [20:04:03] nope [20:04:16] The main one is it stated it required visual editor [20:05:03] another feature I'd consider essential is upvoting/downvoting, I didn't actually do all that much research so it might be there idk [20:05:09] Ah good point. I think it's possible to serve a different payload with VE is not available and preview manually. [20:05:17] Upvoting/downvoting is indeed there [20:10:20] Oh yeah, WWR is tech now. Our tech team is growing faster than I predicted in 26. 😄 [20:10:42] Love to see it [20:11:11] Might even need an approval for extra training licenses [20:13:06] How far does the approved budget for those go [20:13:52] i think we can always find more budget for it without making tech access p2w [20:14:04] I budgeted for four new enrollees in 26 [20:14:19] Each package is about 75 iirc [20:20:12] 78.80 USD, so very affordable [20:21:01] We've used 3 of 4 budgeted seats [20:25:34] Wait, who was #3 [20:25:40] you [20:25:42] Well, me, better question is #1 [20:25:48] petrus [20:26:02] Petrus became tech only in 26..? [20:26:04] Petrus, WWR, Pix [20:26:08] Yes [20:26:10] Yeah, january [20:26:11] .. [20:26:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Data_privacy_training [20:26:19] if you read miraheze monthly you would know smh [20:26:27] If you wanna see the sequence, we got 'em all logged' [20:26:31] Oh, I should make that sortable [20:26:41] I, thought that was last year [20:26:43] the real question is how fast can we fill out the 4th slot [20:26:58] @pskyechology I have a challenge for you [20:27:00] tosses keys to the van [20:27:08] Do your thing girlypop [20:27:17] i already have the van parked out the house of the next victim no worries [20:27:29] Outside? [20:27:33] _has to wait 15 months until the next abduction_ [20:27:43] i cant park inside dummy they'd notice [20:27:44] [1/2] fisch SEO is crazy strong [20:27:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487186381720518806/image.png?ex=69c839bf&is=69c6e83f&hm=5eccebee4ac9f0a1fe849e23d7bbd011f21b49c26c897c867ff2aea90331f54c& [20:27:49] Sortablility, my beloved. All the sorting [20:27:51] You’d find a way [20:28:11] 💯 🎣 [20:28:20] tbf the fisch fandom is uh [20:28:25] not good [20:28:35] 1st one is the one w/ miraheze, right? [20:28:36] idk if they've even kept up with updates [20:29:00] lemme check if the dawm wiki is there [20:29:20] Fandom is absolutely beatable on SEO, especially if you've got the organic support of the community behind a topic [20:29:28] Not easy, but doable [20:29:39] OOF. Not yet ig [20:29:56] [1/2] and the children locked in a cage [20:29:56] [2/2] -# this sounds weird out of context so: we use the Moderation extension [20:30:08] [1/2] Speaking of Fandom [20:30:08] [2/2] Why is Fandom so looked down upon? /genq [20:30:25] I, don’t think that analogy works, in a few ways [20:30:26] i assume you use an adblocker [20:30:35] Yep! [20:30:35] They have their environment highly optimized for SEO and ad revenue, so there's little leeway given for customization [20:30:44] That’s one part of it [20:30:49] UBlock Origin thru and thru [20:30:51] Also they prefer that their wikis give a similar experience between wiki [20:31:07] dont and see how the experience compares [20:31:09] There’s also been a wave of negative sentiment against the company for its behavior towards its community and frankly its community facing employees [20:31:34] Their forking policy is particularly, disliked [20:31:37] [1/2] YOU GET AI SLOP AND YOU GET AI SLOP AND YOU GET AI SLOP [20:31:37]