[00:21:44] is CirrusSearch is restricted on MH wikis? is there an alternative? [00:22:59] it is only restricted because it has a high chance of technical issues, which is why it is limited to enabling by stewards [00:23:07] you can request at [[SR/RC]] [00:23:08]

[00:41:38] [1/2] dawg what are these captchas [00:41:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487250277626024118/image.png?ex=69c87541&is=69c723c1&hm=86a059fa5f879a092e3e181c335ae2bbc4c247079e16e0a22329e90124b15d92& [00:42:06] that is the most evil one i have seen so far [00:48:44] [You feel like you need to do laundry] [00:49:15] i hate that you are right [00:49:29] Also, I see a cheeky "elephant" [00:50:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487252584526774402/images_-_2026-03-27T205030.789.jpg?ex=69c87767&is=69c725e7&hm=fc1acdf222eaf72c7fb955185de50f546561dbc2e44d99df596b9a066cecb1cd& [00:51:06] These ai capchas are so weird, I keep getting cat ones where I need to choose the ones looking at the camera and all the correct options just say "looking" over and over on them [00:51:43] This feels worse tho how are elephants and washing machines related LOL [00:52:20] elephants? [00:52:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487253035515252786/acceptmywiki.png?ex=69c877d3&is=69c72653&hm=b60ba811533c1985b255a6593c3b22474598d43dbc1d5d2f372f818d56e434c3& [00:52:55] address the great whale in the room [00:54:23] I have a wiki to make an amazon clone!!! [00:54:28] -# ANyway.... [01:40:20] [1/2] idk if this goes in support or if i can get help here but how do i make the characters actually scale to fit with this gallery [01:40:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487265051596292277/image.png?ex=69c88304&is=69c73184&hm=f54eccc7d314fb95975cf9d8cc3b0b59e1bf3aac34bfafcdc93d4ea5bd284a6c& [01:40:28] yes i am mr. blox fortress 2 [01:45:19] I love that all of them are "legally distinct" [01:54:03] wdym scale to fit? [01:57:16] [1/2] could this be increased? or do I need to get a local admin (they be sleepin) ? [01:57:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487269309939187762/image.png?ex=69c886fb&is=69c7357b&hm=98275318c8389cb90d72811e16542e6542a60eb908de1e8a55b69112e9857333& [02:00:31] you are doing something terribly inefficient [02:00:39] It can. Though this is usually indicative of doing something wrong. [02:05:19] [1/14] ``` [02:05:19] [2/14] "timingprofile": [ [02:05:20] [3/14] "100.00% 1035.077 1 -total", [02:05:20] [4/14] " 32.82% 339.682 7 Template:RecipeVisual", [02:05:20] [5/14] " 25.34% 262.304 10 Template:BuildingGrid", [02:05:21] [6/14] " 21.50% 222.532 4 Template:Navbox", [02:05:21] [7/14] " 16.95% 175.420 1 Template:LegacySerpuloDrillItem", [02:05:21] [8/14] " 15.71% 162.560 1 Template:Navbox_Items_and_Fluids", [02:05:22] [9/14] " 13.87% 143.519 1 Template:ItemInfobox", [02:05:22] [10/14] " 11.76% 121.691 1 Template:SerpuloDrillItem", [02:05:22] [11/14] " 11.63% 120.360 7 Template:RecipeVisual/RatioBox", [02:05:23] [12/14] " 7.78% 80.483 217 Template:EfficiencyMini" [02:05:23] [13/14] ] [02:05:24] [14/14] ``` [02:06:16] 7 RecipeVisual template calls result in `Post-expand include size 1,955,391/2,097,152 bytes` [02:07:00] What is in that template to make the page so bloated in size? 😭 [02:09:56] 32 calls to efficiencymini [02:10:13] Holy buckets! [02:14:12] me everytime I write php [04:29:16] bit off-topic, but nice to see that someone edits the mindustry wiki on mh [04:29:51] I see you more on the wiki.gg discord lol [05:52:39] [1/3] I had moved the drawing of ``EfficiencyMini`` to an async function but forgor to remove it out of the ``RecipeVisual/RatioBox``. [05:52:39] [2/3] Before it was just hiding the boxes it wasn't using but I needed to change it after making the RatioViewer gadget mostly async. [05:52:40] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487328547344351282/image.png?ex=69c8be26&is=69c76ca6&hm=dcab5471ff05fbd3fb7f13a6eba7bfcba2d2f76471798aba727f2c7dda15ae1a& [05:55:15] [1/2] Also its annoying that, for me at least, this profiling data only shows up in ``?action=submit``. [05:55:15] [2/2] I thought it would at least be in ``?action=info``. [05:56:57] [1/2] I'm back having a wiki fixation 🥺 [05:56:58] [2/2] this is my first Miraheze wiki. Mindustry wiki looks gorgeous so I'm stuck there for a while! [05:57:10] awesome [05:57:33] wiki.gg missing out on big money by only allowing ye olde vector [06:09:43] For real. [06:20:33] Yeah [06:20:52] I would guess they would want to bring the customization level on par with the Vector skin, which has a LOT of css variables [06:21:25] True [06:21:49] You only have one skin, but the trade off is ease of customizability and the ability to make really nice themes with it [06:22:18] And they don't have to look too much like vector either [06:22:36] e.g. https://predecessor.wiki.gg or https://undertaleyellow.wiki.gg [06:23:00] nice. I'm not super sure how those templates are build I'm guessing partially with gadgets but rendering wikitext with display none is sure a way to have a bad time [06:24:00] predecessor doesn't even look like Vector damn [06:24:12] Yeah [06:24:23] But I do agree wiki.gg should allow for more skins [06:27:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1487337243231256657/image.png?ex=69c8c640&is=69c774c0&hm=eed2ac17fbca0f4995019b09c3198081361a78d1b76a95613a657c50a632acf9& [06:27:22] they even have the syntax highlight button for logged out users [06:27:37] peak [06:28:04] looking at some pages what a beautiful wiki [06:32:40] [1/4] If you wanna sum up the comparison: [06:32:40] [2/4] - Miraheze: supports many skins and highly customizable, but you're not given CSS variables or equivalent tools to easily stylize parts of the wiki [06:32:40] [3/4] - wiki.gg: one skin only, but you're given CSS variables/a tool to easily customize the theme. Highly customizable, but slightly more restrictive than Miraheze in terms of customization policy [06:32:41] [4/4] - Fandom: one skin only, you can easily customize with Theme Designer and custom CSS, but there are heavy customization policy restrictions, especially with more of Fandom's space being used for ads and other shoved garbage [06:33:13] @posix_memalign feel free to add this to your comparison of wiki hosting services [06:33:53] PSA: Don't consider fandom. just don't. [06:35:03] "you're not given CSS variables" is misleading [06:35:32] it's not like we chose to not give users that option, its just that most skins dont come with any [06:36:22] also: name a skin other than vector 2022 and citizen that are still being developed [06:36:40] wait.... [06:36:42] whoever says minerva gets exploded [06:36:46] um [06:36:49] *zip* [06:36:55] *muffle* [06:36:58] *sigh* [06:37:12] Wasn't aware of this, thanks for letting me know, edited [06:38:10] and the default vector 2022 very much does have variables [06:38:43] CSS might just not be the most approchable to everyone [06:39:27] especially if our caching trolls you a little [06:41:20] I recommended just playing around with inspect element for basic stuff [06:41:29] text size, color, etc. [06:41:40] looking at code of wikis and seeing what effects what [06:41:41] local dev tools hacking is the best way to css [06:42:06] im glad y'all still know what an inspect element is but the sad truth is that the next generation simple doesn't [06:42:35] dw their ai will vibecode it [06:44:36] [1/3] Gemini be like: [06:44:36] [2/3] Here's your CSS for your wiki: [06:44:37] [3/3] insert a wall of CSS variables that probably work [06:45:22] probably work? optimistic. [06:46:06] 90% of my css knowledge is inspect element [06:46:18] the other 10% is Google and guessing [06:46:34] more like it will do a complete rewrite, check for result, repeat 20 times. no clean diff and no functional css [06:47:08] did you know mysterious bot that in firefox dev tools you can shift click on color values to swap between color spaces [06:47:37] (me, who's only used chrome whole life) a fire what [06:47:46] True! I accidentally butchered my wiki's skin one time due to a misplaced end bracket. 😭 [06:47:56] browsers other than chrome exist????? [06:48:06] https://tenor.com/view/fox-pet-petting-this-thing-gif-16442205733782896442 [06:48:16] skye...... [06:48:18] its.... [06:48:26] irc....I cant see the gifff.......:(( [06:48:37] you can still open the link dummy [06:48:58] on a school laptop? [06:49:04] nuh uh ;(((( [06:49:08] sobbing [06:49:16] is the school fbi gonna get you for opening tenor [06:49:16] basically the same [06:49:29] its like literally blocked [06:49:37] bruh [06:49:42] I guess that makes sense cuz yk it can have bad stuff [06:49:55] Bruh. [06:50:03] and now for today's sponsor, legally distinct private network [06:50:14] I was enjoying the glorious dev tools too until they their started butchering adblockers. I value my gazillion ads blocked very much [06:50:14] vpn? get outta here! [06:50:21] hotspot? not a chance! [06:50:31] Ditto with me as well. [06:50:46] oh no but we'll preinstall Minecraft education on all of our Chromebooks yeah that makes sense [06:50:54] not using the diff button when editing site css is a sin twin [06:51:30] real gamers edit in vs code or anything other than the wiki editor [06:51:38] why would you use diff?\ [06:52:18] how do you chat with bot [06:52:21] sourcery [06:52:23] IRC [06:52:29] its basically discord but website [06:52:30] and uh [06:52:33] install kiwix and minecraft.wiki while you're at it [06:52:34] yeah it looks like that old people chat rooms [06:52:37] (joking) [06:52:44] ........ [06:52:45] I should use diff more often. I use Notepad++ for my scratchpad. [06:52:46] hello it is me [06:52:47] explodes [06:52:53] hey Skye [06:53:05] minecraft.wiki? NUH UH!!! BLOCKED ALSO!!! [06:53:07] haha I'm on the sell my data side now [06:53:12] I use pen and paper to write my css [06:53:14] /j [06:53:27] 60 year old professor ahh [06:53:38] :c [06:53:46] they should've blocked minecraft.fandom.com [06:53:46] these new fangled electronics are so impractical! [06:53:53] fandom is blocked [06:53:57] because that's totally the best site about minecraft!!! [06:53:59] /s [06:54:06] you cant even search it up the name is a blocked keyword!!!!! [06:54:06] bruh [06:54:12] the one W by the school [06:54:22] do they allow miraheze or wiki.gg [06:54:53] wiki gg is no but Miraheze is like depends [06:54:59] Meta is unblocked [06:55:14] all of the main Miraheze project wikis [06:55:22] Double bruh. [06:55:36] I think its quadruple bruh by now [06:56:24] mc.wiki exists [06:56:34] why bite the hand that feeds [06:56:36] aka a redirect to minecraft.wiki [06:56:50] nope [06:57:19] 😭 [06:57:30] for some reason when my wiki name was arsenalrobloxwiki.miraheze.org it was unblocked but arsenal.miraheze.org just got like blocked for some reason???? [06:57:37] you would think the first URL would be flagged [06:57:42] try weirdgloop.org [06:57:56] see if any of these mythical-tier wikis are blocked [06:57:59] unblocked [06:58:21] weirdgloop wikis most of them unblocked but only on home wi fi [06:59:48] Man, your school must really hate selective wikis. [07:00:11] I'm betting... [07:00:13] I need to finish wiki practice reviewing [07:00:22] runescape and league of legends are blocked [07:00:25] and the rest aren't [07:00:26] right? [07:01:02] those two and old-school and mc [07:01:12] figures [07:01:17] gta might be too new for them to catch on [07:01:18] smite wiki [07:01:34] why smite 2 wiki? [07:01:35] warframe [07:01:40] i'd figure it'd be too niche [07:01:45] valtro [07:01:48] baltro [07:01:57] vampire survivors [07:02:34] https://tenor.com/view/bruh-krabs-gif-20277716 [07:03:25] there are only runescape classic, runescape draonwilds, hytale, 2kxo, brighter shores, and gta left [07:04:17] hytale to [07:04:19] runscape [07:04:45] brighter shores [07:09:20] [1/4] Non-urgent question - is there a way to merge XML and image imports? And will the import request accept a several hundred MB of uncompressed XML? That is, I've managed to get an archived copy of the wiki I'm moving is it [IA link removed in case that's the filter trip] and I'm figuring that [07:09:20] [2/4] a) I shouldn't bypass the ticketing systems because that way lies madness and [07:09:20] [3/4] b) It might be easier to point at that scrape and ask for the three (images awkwardly got split up because of recompression altering file sizes) script runs [07:09:21] [4/4] (And then I get to hope that there's no subtle difference between what the ArchiveTeam exporter does and what Fandom's on-close export did) [07:18:15] This feels like an XY problem [07:18:32] I have no idea why you need or what merging an XML and Image import does [07:19:03] If you need help with an image import, use [[Phorge]]. XML imports normally go via [[Special:ImportDump]] [07:19:03]

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[2/2] [07:20:05] We have about a decades experience in importing stuff from Fandom if you need help @tomash [07:21:30] [1/2] Ah [07:21:30] [2/2] So just run the imports separately, have a bunch of 404s where the images go for some time, and this is all fairly normal. Makes sense [07:21:58] [1/2] I have a shorter version of what you said. Feeling lazy right now, so I'll just add some example wikis to show the diverse range of customization. [07:21:58] [2/2] > * Wiki.gg only has a single skin (Vector Legacy) just like Fandom only supports Fandom Desktop, but it allows for more customization. Wiki.gg also has a dedicated staff member to style wikis for you. Miraheze offers more skins and greater freedoms, but wikis are on their own and will only receive limited styling help from volunteers. [07:25:23] Please ensure that the f... [07:26:41] How to expand a notification? [07:26:48] "dedicated staff member to style wikis" thats so cool [07:27:14] i nominated splatched to serve us for the next 1000 years [07:27:25] would dedicated styling volunteers be a swag idea [07:27:33] yes [07:27:35] yes [07:27:50] yes [07:28:08] im so good at this director thing /j [07:28:21] that's what some wiki.gg staff do when you're creating a new wiki or moving over a wiki during the onboarding phase [07:28:32] particularly if you ask for help [07:28:55] rocking it /nj [07:31:51] Maybe we should advertise unpaid internship positions for someone who likes writing CSS/JS and wants to pad their resume with MediaWiki gadgets lol. [07:32:24] what about the discord css/js volunteers! [07:32:40] need to make it sound like a job instead of "hello i am free css person" [07:33:06] compare tech team member vs mediawiki specialist [07:33:43] what is that btw [07:33:49] and also infrastructure speciaslist [07:34:17] minor boom tech vs major boom tech [07:34:25] green vs blue [07:34:38] uhhhhhh [07:34:41] confused [07:35:04] im giving /j answers instead of real ones and messing up whatever petra is typing >:3 [07:35:26]