[00:06:07] I thought I already fixed this? [00:07:04] [1/2] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-Cosmos/commit/b3c1fd53b1fc210a811e8f9ea99025b498a892be [00:07:04] [2/2] Oh this evidently didn't fix the whole issue [00:30:38] Oh? [00:30:59] i guess that's what happens when that skin is a big mess [00:31:05] crazy [00:47:15] Will you try fixing it? [00:55:11] [1/4] I was wondering if there was a type of wikitable that allows for scrolling left and right to see all colums, where the scroll bar stays on the screen at all times. [00:55:11] [2/4] I'm working with a table with lots of rows (in the hundreds) that also has a lot of columns that dont really fit on the wiki. Easy way to fix that is if theres a way for me to add a scroll, so users can just scroll left and right to see all the columns. But now the issue is if they scroll down to lets say the middle of the wikipage, they wont be able to access said scroll unless they go [00:55:11] [3/4] back up to the top/bottom, which is really inconvenient. [00:55:11] [4/4] I'm not sure if this is a feature already and whats its called, im not even sure if the ability to scroll left and right on a table exists, but if anyone has information please let me know. thank you. [01:02:28] You can hold shift and scroll to scroll left and right on a table! It's probably possible to add horizontal scrollbar for tables, but I have no clue how to, so that should hopefully be helpful if nothing else! [01:42:44] [1/2] is this setting safe to enable? [01:42:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488352817587421254/image.png?ex=69cc7813&is=69cb2693&hm=82432ae60e18dda31a346338f9e3124503d0b310b515f7004ffdf732fce60498& [01:43:50] yes? not sure why you would think otherwise [01:44:34] [1/2] ah, it's cause this thing broke the editor once so i was worried, thanks! [01:44:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488353278726111323/image.png?ex=69cc7881&is=69cb2701&hm=497b2a7b0e5e0237b7af05c3d32cba50dda3389398448574406d34d5b9cdb004& [01:46:25] was it like a permanent breakage? sometimes things don't worry properly for a few minutes after you change them [01:47:03] permanent, the editor didn't load the syntax [01:47:32] rip [01:48:04] that's why it has (experimental) to the setting name now [01:56:17] What are the biggest differences between 2010 Wikitext editor and 2017 Wikitext editor? [02:08:09] [1/2] Hello, [02:08:09] [2/2] what should I do if my wiki falls into two or more purposes? Would selecting "Other" be best? [02:10:41] [1/2] Well the main issue is that the table is literally overflowing off the side lol. [02:10:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488359850445373550/image.png?ex=69cc7ea0&is=69cb2d20&hm=b9c0005a6ade6856a3d982bfd06610d40eff42345e416ba555156ac36af3138d& [02:12:11] thats why i was wondering if theres a type of table i could use that limits its area, and instead lets the user scroll to see more columns [02:13:34] [1/4] Ohh what I do for that is wrap the table in a div with the noresize class, like so [02:13:34] [2/4] ```
[02:13:34] [3/4] (Insert table here) [02:13:34] [4/4] /div``` [02:14:12] Doesn't work if I put the class on the table for some reason, so I just put it around the table [02:15:08] that actually worked perfectly, added the scroll to the bottom as well lmao [02:15:13] thanks so much [02:16:07] [1/2] Oh awesome!! It didn't do the scrollbar for me when I did it, maybe a skin difference lol [02:16:07] [2/2] Happy to have helped!! [02:30:19] [1/2] 2010 editor has all the fun buttons [02:30:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488364790232645793/image.png?ex=69cc833a&is=69cb31ba&hm=03a10f06b6b43e7b699095e679525fe0fd4e0294e27999db094d0d70702d9e42& [02:30:43] So 2017 is a direct downgrade [02:30:47] how amusing [02:31:04] I think it's supposed to load faster but don't quote me on that [02:31:21] I prefer having buttons even though I have never actually pressed them lol [02:31:26] they failed on the "less is more" catchphrase [02:32:39] [1/2] i love a clean design [02:32:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488365378793902100/image.png?ex=69cc83c6&is=69cb3246&hm=d0f9b9c321db4181c521746c40819587d9455c8ff2a7f94efdf56af377f06660& [02:32:39] for experienced editors I can see why they might not need the clutter but I do appreciate that the toolbar/2010 was left as a choice in settings because it can def be helpful to get shortcut to do like, that one styling you have only used once, many years ago [02:33:19] [1/2] the........ moon icon is nice [02:33:19] [2/2] I can't really say anything, I use edge to play my pet sims [02:34:19] i just realzied i doxxed myself by sending that screenshot lmao [02:35:31] your secret is safe with me (<-- user did not retain any information from that screenshot) [02:35:46] Oop. [02:51:49] [1/2] hello, is there any way to have an image wordmark for vector theme, but then have no image wordmark (just title of wiki) for timeless theme? we have gone to wiki settings and added the image link to `Wordmark ($wgWordmark)` and kept `Timeless Wordmark ($wgTimelessWordmark)` blank but when switching between themes it still has an image for timeless theme. are we missing someth [02:51:49] [2/2] ing? [03:34:46] [1/2] What is this Forum page for? To link to stuff relating to the wiki's subject or something else? [03:34:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488381012974108712/image.png?ex=69cc9256&is=69cb40d6&hm=812f12c15566b09cc3b4f2bebe5e5c2576d309f0ee6940cb3e605f1320908f6b& [03:36:25] Which wiki is that on and how'd you find it [03:41:59] [1/2] Zoo Tycoon wiki and it just came defaulted in the Participate box of the Timeless skin [03:41:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488382827153199125/image.png?ex=69cc9406&is=69cb4286&hm=5b2be788b52407ab728ce56852930563c1f21865c2c39ada99c933a0a383cdf5& [03:46:09] That forum-url line came from an imported revision from 2007 when Fandom was still Wikia [03:47:01] I imagine Wikia used to have a `forum-url` message defined that would direct people towards Forum:Index or a similar page [03:47:30] But now on Miraheze that's no longer the case and you're taken to a nonexistent page [03:48:12] [1/2] Oh, huh... Interesting. [03:48:12] [2/2] Is there a way to delete it? [03:48:31] Remove it from MediaWiki:Sidebar [03:51:53] Ah, thank you! [03:59:52] hey yall... a youtube template i snatched isnt working [04:02:18] [1/4] code, how it should look like, how it looks on mine [04:02:18] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488387938893959178/image.png?ex=69cc98c9&is=69cb4749&hm=18cf16bfa2ebcae9dde86f57dcb2abeca357969638192cb644ac460aaf0a2d7b& [04:02:18] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488387939540013287/image.png?ex=69cc98c9&is=69cb4749&hm=ddbc8c249e8e491a22bb6f93be062e4a42aa9f320f49e1b30ed2726b190d6fd1& [04:02:18] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488387940039004391/image.png?ex=69cc98c9&is=69cb4749&hm=11895773288663cccb4ad8e8ab158d49494eeb9fa01310d929886de7a809bf42& [04:02:35] [1/2] I'm using User Profile for the first time, in the info section is it possible to have info on a new line? [04:02:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488388011019206756/image.png?ex=69cc98da&is=69cb475a&hm=7f32fd31872f5ef777f9a7bc8cf46b6b495b4344f7afd8923c9de6e4d28ce1a0& [04:03:02] Delete the spaces before `{{#ev` [04:03:52] [1/3] it just moves the text back [04:03:52] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488388332739231854/image.png?ex=69cc9927&is=69cb47a7&hm=a7e6b98a3c49b2e9f0aa48229ecd65776810602194a36ae207ff826374b0a9fd& [04:03:52] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488388333276237824/image.png?ex=69cc9927&is=69cb47a7&hm=b09434cbdb5bc3d420005fb99b166e729b7cd68cf1f96a7f4b5a96829d81ee2e& [04:04:08] Did you enable EmbedVideo [04:04:09] Could you link to the page? [04:04:21] uhhhhhhhhhhh [04:04:24] didnt know i had to do that [04:04:25] hahahahahhaahha [04:04:31] god this is embarrasing [04:05:56] https://ronanjeanpaul.miraheze.org/wiki/escombros [04:06:31] [1/3] still broken (tried it with no spaces, and it just shows a blank rectangle [04:06:31] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488389000560644267/image.png?ex=69cc99c6&is=69cb4846&hm=390827598604fa36a1c36f0df5a5767f8ab90db7dd1b34683077af5e29d1fe22& [04:06:31] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488389001038790786/image.png?ex=69cc99c6&is=69cb4846&hm=5eb64a7ecc69b3d242c18ba93931c4f4bc0965604957db785ae8ada08c4c3f9a& [04:12:06] [1/2] Should be working now? [04:12:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488390405904011315/image.png?ex=69cc9b15&is=69cb4995&hm=ef24a7e3d7346dc8690074bd2b49d0ad24dc2aa5f366bf8bcbea82dc09eb32d7& [04:12:31] If it says `This content is blocked. Contact the site owner to fix the issue.` it is a known problem that would hopefully be resolved in less than 24 hours. [04:12:57] oh silly me [04:13:01] hey petra [04:13:05] #volunteering [04:17:24] oh so it's the servers taking a bit to show the video? [04:17:25] nicee [04:17:53] tyy ❤️❤️ [04:43:19] how does one speak in relay [04:55:45] [1/2] See [IRC](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/IRC) [04:55:46] [2/2] It's mostly for folks who like IRC ([xkcd1782](https://xkcd.com/1782/)) or who does not want to use Discord for various reasons. [04:56:02] ohh [04:57:26] Looks like Meta is having the same image issues. If I refresh the IRC page the images are all broken because they link to Wikimedia Commons and are not covered by the fallback CSP. [04:57:36] [1/3] Quick question, is there some way to make tables not look terrible on mobile? Is there an example out there that I could look at for fixing this? [04:57:36] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488401857528336474/image.png?ex=69cca5c0&is=69cb5440&hm=d12774601a47c08c996fd6287b43ffd3570e83b4859b196a7307665a98e26f30& [04:57:37] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488401857830322238/image.png?ex=69cca5c0&is=69cb5440&hm=4693d084c6577f69f34c1fc0a73287e04e782c1d848a5f1165073ee844565286& [05:00:31] [1/3] There is no magic for fixing tables unfortunately. You could give the table itself (or the image column) a minimal width so that it scrolls instead of trying to compress the image. [05:00:31] [2/3] For a better fix see https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_make_my_wiki_mobile-friendly#Example_2 [05:00:31] [3/3] Flex's example 2 shows a table-like layout that collapses to a mobile-friendly format when the screen is narrow. [05:01:39] Hm, okay, I'll take a look at this, thanks! [05:02:01] Hoi! [05:02:04] Sorry for ping but [05:02:14] How'd you change colors and all? /genq [05:02:25] For the background or the borders? [05:02:54] Background! [05:03:26] Mmm, do you know how to use the Ctrl+Shift+I selection tool? [05:04:27] No... I initially was going to answer I know, since I know Inspect Element... ^^;; [05:10:46] [1/10] Okay, so using this tool is REALLY useful for changing the appearance of a wiki. [05:10:46] [2/10] If you activate inspect element, you will see this thing right here (indicated in image 1). [05:10:47] [3/10] You can then click on any element that you want to change the appearance of. It will tell you what it is. You can then go to what it called a "MediaWiki:Common.css" page (your wiki should have one) and add code that changes that specific element. [05:10:47] [4/10] For this specific content background, the code in image 2 is what changes it to have transparency and a blur (the image in the background is a separate thing). This is all written in the common CSS page. [05:10:47] [5/10]  background-color: rgba(red value, green value, blue value, transparency value*); [05:10:48] [6/10] * This affects the transparency of the main box. It's also blue, which is what gives it that dark blue look. [05:10:48] [7/10] * backdrop-filter: blur 12px [05:10:48] [8/10] * This gives it a glass-like look I guess? [05:10:48] [9/10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488405170042831038/image.png?ex=69cca8d5&is=69cb5755&hm=8a8ee5b9cb73775fc083d72c2e38a3bdf79f6e9161fe94776227092c3aa2b3fb& [05:10:49] [10/10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488405170512465950/image.png?ex=69cca8d5&is=69cb5755&hm=09003a6a4d99862fccb343e64f50d7ba061e6df5aca0fd3621425c8fbffa7885& [05:11:48] Ooooo [05:12:47] [1/2] Doesn't seem like it has anything. Is this normal? [05:12:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488405678937735208/image.png?ex=69cca94f&is=69cb57cf&hm=a917ef256775da6000d2172f318123ebd40fce782314c539b0b13d718c4afbcc& [05:13:42] [1/2] Here, I've selected this area, and it gives me this element and all of the different things that have been changed about it. You can take the name of the element (".mw-page-container" in this case) and change the attributes in the common CSS page. [05:13:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488405911268757585/image.png?ex=69cca986&is=69cb5806&hm=d008d87c830d51bbd86ee848155fc2a133a039a7a9d328287f8b1311cc97400d& [05:14:06] Yes. When you're first starting out a wiki it will be blank [05:14:59] And can you edit it all through IE or do you have to copy and paste everything [05:15:55] [1/2] If you're ever curious as to how a wiki has their common CSS set up, you can just add this to any other wiki link (after the /wiki/) and get to that page. [05:15:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488406464962891928/image.png?ex=69ccaa0a&is=69cb588a&hm=f84e5fe747d9c9c97eda1e5514d389747149b0d342ac4a9d869823dcac00c8a9& [05:17:31] [1/13] OK so [05:17:31] [2/13] I took this from the Toybox Funhouse Wiki: [05:17:32] [3/13] ```/ Background/Page Colors/ [05:17:32] [4/13] #mw-content { [05:17:32] [5/13] background-color: #431416; [05:17:32] [6/13] border-color: #431416; [05:17:33] [7/13] box-shadow: #431416; [05:17:33] [8/13] box-shadow:0 1px 2px 1px #431416; [05:17:33] [9/13] } [05:17:34] [10/13] #mw-content-container { [05:17:34] [11/13] background-color: #2C0000; [05:17:35] [12/13] border:solid #f8f9fa;``` [05:17:35] [13/13] Now if I just straight up paste it, will it work, or does it have to have code in between [05:17:49] [1/3] Inspect element will only affect what you are currently seeing and will reset if you leave / refresh the page. If you want it to stay permanently you will have to edit the common CSS page. [05:17:49] [2/3] Also, just a tip, if you're constantly editing common CSS the cache takes a long time to refresh, so you should add "?debug=2" at the end of the link of the page you are editing and spam ctrl+shift+r (if you're using chrome) to reset the cache. [05:17:49] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488406943994478682/image.png?ex=69ccaa7c&is=69cb58fc&hm=a65cf3475f493164b97281f337e73a06843b9f7cd66dbf0e80e4c40f7276132e& [05:18:26] you're missing a bracket at the end I think, but it should work? [05:19:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488407408014397520/image.png?ex=69ccaaeb&is=69cb596b&hm=54056a3d343cf560c59a0c83fad8a39e3c717191538fdac7812a25bf526d97de& [05:19:49] Yeah, I don't think so... [05:19:51] press enter and add a "}' [05:20:08] that's the curly brace you're missing [05:20:17] What about the ⚠️ icon [05:20:38] it's just complaining that it expected a different value for that, but most of the time you can ignore it [05:20:56] since it changes the color or does what you want anyways [05:22:26] [1/2] you should make a test page like this one to check if all of your headers, galleries, and infoboxes (if you have any) are behaving correctly before starting on your wiki. It's so much easier to get all of this out of the way at the start. [05:22:27] [2/2] https://escapismarea.miraheze.org/wiki/Test [05:23:45] Any luck? [05:24:08] [1/2] It worked [05:24:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488408535917400084/image.png?ex=69ccabf8&is=69cb5a78&hm=c279d6004f28c53e664e020cdb5bf8575a37de5a2d3da74dea2b518fb455858d& [05:25:53] Perfect! That's basically what you do for everything else, rinse and repeat. Looking at other wikis is a good way to learn about the declarations / changes you can make to the elements on the pages. [05:26:01] Alrighty [05:27:26] Now I just gotta figure out what color fits the most. [05:27:53] The google color picker works nicely, it's what I use since it's simple [05:28:45] I'd use that, but... I've looked at some color palettes for Dream Along with Me characters, and I'm not exactly sure whose color palettes screams "DREAM ALONG WITH ME!". [05:29:01] I've checked on https://maggiecallicoat.com btw [05:29:16] wait [05:29:26] Is it possible to make gradients in the background? [05:30:39] [1/2] Maybe with an image? I haven't tried it to be honest, but you should be able to do it by applying a background image. [05:30:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488410175034622002/image.png?ex=69ccad7f&is=69cb5bff&hm=57d23bd35643b0fb7c12a3a2bbbabe97f67a569c0982bd0b8cf86979939b43f4& [05:31:12] [1/6] `.page,body { [05:31:13] [2/6] background-image: url(https://static.wikitide.net/escapismareawiki/d/d8/EscapismAreaThumbnail.png); [05:31:13] [3/6] background-repeat: no-repeat; [05:31:13] [4/6] background-size: cover; [05:31:14] [5/6] background-attachment: fixed [05:31:14] [6/6] }` [05:31:31] `.page,boddy { ` [05:31:42] Hm, and what would be a good size for a .png background [05:33:25] I mean, my background is 602x602, but the low quality is part of the style. You might want to raise it a little higher than that maybe? [05:33:49] I see... [05:34:31] [1/5] ```ini [05:34:31] [2/5] .page,body { [05:34:31] [3/5] test [05:34:32] [4/5] } [05:34:32] [5/5] ``` [05:37:17] [1/2] Didn't work [05:37:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488411844904222821/image.png?ex=69ccaf0d&is=69cb5d8d&hm=ce0a5c8fcc14c18378e04cea3c6b563588cc49bf658d639c6444ca91017edbde& [05:39:37] Any errors? [05:39:47] Background didn't seem to appear [05:41:08] I'm not too familiar with the image background, but the other code might be interfering with it if there are no errors. [05:41:31] Let's see... [05:42:12] [1/2] What the heck, even if that's removed, that didn't work. [05:42:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488413082236747826/image.png?ex=69ccb034&is=69cb5eb4&hm=0f69850026b4a1f10c7effb37c686522f9ee81646cff4522fc106f906d9a1c9a& [05:42:22] hmmm [05:43:50] Maybe it's the wrong element then? I'm using the vector 2022 skin so it might be a different element for you [05:44:00] Bummer... [05:44:15] use the ctrl+shift+c tool and click on the background to see what it is [05:44:41] [1/2] since I was able to change it fine on my end by adding the link to the image. [05:44:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488413709008244857/image.png?ex=69ccb0c9&is=69cb5f49&hm=942eded95364e2f1d636e81488090a4cdbf3b7e0d924220c7c30866a40f2455f& [05:44:49] [1/2] Well shit [05:44:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488413740398415944/image.png?ex=69ccb0d1&is=69cb5f51&hm=b08dbb14bb597d8f2e60dbd993e54668f76dde2e945b8e76ec4965c9d697620d& [05:45:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488413803409572042/image.png?ex=69ccb0e0&is=69cb5f60&hm=843c9aad50a7c723e47fa04d014e10f922bf6e4ffd9e706c2209df42e17eb013& [05:45:25] They must have used a custom css page or something I dunno [05:46:52] They have their CSS under, if I can recall here, vector.css. [05:47:37] Wait. [05:47:40] I'm an idiot. [05:47:46] I typed Commons, not Common [05:48:27] [1/2] For me, the element is ".page, body", you should check what yours is. [05:48:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488414654890770564/2026-03-30_23-47-07.mp4?ex=69ccb1ab&is=69cb602b&hm=dcb89246fdc394489430dc8c7e274ca0216861627a6d6ce5ba955904fb39f37f& [05:53:05] [1/2] @albany_prim0 I was right, your wiki skin uses a different element for the background. [05:53:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488415821373116507/image.png?ex=69ccb2c1&is=69cb6141&hm=4fbf7d0c0084b48b52810bd80c378ef5de7543ed33dabecd42107012035e6e19& [05:53:09] .skin--responsive .mw-page-container [05:53:19] oh [05:53:35] [1/9] Try this: [05:53:36] [2/9] ```ini [05:53:36] [3/9] .skin--responsive .mw-page-container { [05:53:36] [4/9] background-image: url(https://static.wikitide.net/escapismareawiki/d/d8/EscapismAreaThumbnail.png); [05:53:36] [5/9] background-repeat: no-repeat; [05:53:37] [6/9] background-size: cover; [05:53:37] [7/9] background-attachment: fixed [05:53:37] [8/9] } [05:53:38] [9/9] ``` [05:53:38] Copy me the code for that, please? 🥺 [05:54:15] [1/2] What the heck [05:54:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488416115343364146/image.png?ex=69ccb307&is=69cb6187&hm=eebf99c9ed1968446451f3cbb2562daabe2709d35e089c6c85d83c61972a5c3c& [05:54:51] FYI, I already showed preview, it still didn't work [05:55:50] [1/2] My mistake, I think it was content lol [05:55:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488416514464940032/image.png?ex=69ccb366&is=69cb61e6&hm=46e0d21bdf5556df74581f768c87c8e5aedd3968e8d6a4903cb5eb917dffb73b& [05:56:09] [1/9] Third time's the charm. [05:56:09] [2/9] ```ini [05:56:09] [3/9] #mw-content-block { [05:56:10] [4/9] background-image: url(https://static.wikitide.net/escapismareawiki/d/d8/EscapismAreaThumbnail.png); [05:56:10] [5/9] background-repeat: no-repeat; [05:56:10] [6/9] background-size: cover; [05:56:11] [7/9] background-attachment: fixed [05:56:11] [8/9] } [05:56:11] [9/9] ``` [05:56:54] [1/2] OH SICK. IT WORKS. HELL YES. [05:56:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488416780866162759/image.png?ex=69ccb3a6&is=69cb6226&hm=60a610fd1ff9098eb38b1eddb3a5e17ec01076a5558fc47ded65572158df935a& [05:57:08] It didn't cover the entire perimeter of my display though. [05:58:25] Apply the changes, that red shouldn't be there anymore since you removed the code for it. [05:58:37] Save the page so that way I can check it from my end and see if it worked. [05:59:16] Alright, saved it. [05:59:25] [1/2] Well, it worked, but you're right in the fact that there is still some red on the page [05:59:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488417411731296286/image.png?ex=69ccb43c&is=69cb62bc&hm=d446dc9407e55ee7137f135f29ab84008b2d86f3aeef47d3896d7f9ab1c956e8& [05:59:55] Huh, it stretched for you but not for me... strange [05:59:58] Not entirely sure how to get rid of that, let me experiment a bit [06:00:25] [1/2] visit this link, press ctrl+shift+r a few times, and let me know if anything changes. [06:00:26] [2/2] https://dawm.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?debug=2 [06:01:13] Nothing changed [06:01:31] What does it look like for you? [06:01:43] Still the same, but there's the red borders [06:01:53] Even if I removed the color code, there's still borders [06:02:11] Can you right click on them, press inspect, and then send a screenshot? [06:02:31] hm, which part of it [06:02:32] Oh wait nevermind I see them on my end [06:02:35] oh [06:03:15] it happens when you zoom out, let me see if I can find some way to get rid of them [06:07:26] [1/2] Hm, from what I've tried so far I could get rid of the red, but there's this gray box that won't go away for some reason. [06:07:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488419430869500035/image.png?ex=69ccb61d&is=69cb649d&hm=23b7cb1ca991c76ce13a1b3fc9926061d0f33b177467bb711eef52d8a609a54a& [06:08:36] That's fugly [06:08:53] -# also, if that's ok, is it OK if I added you as a friend? /genq [06:09:11] Yup! [06:10:35] [1/2] I think the best option here is to "unset" (tell it not to set) the background color. I'm not very familiar with this wiki skin, so I don't know of any other better way. [06:10:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488420223441698867/image.png?ex=69ccb6da&is=69cb655a&hm=efce969e15a20e4ff58d95275beec1849c4cbc70f16eb5cfa4753a820a5c7595& [06:11:15] I see. Sorry about that [06:11:35] [1/5] ```ini [06:11:35] [2/5] #mw-content-container { [06:11:35] [3/5] background-color: #unset; [06:11:35] [4/5] } [06:11:36] [5/5] ``` [06:12:10] @albany_prim0 I accidentally added an extra # before unset, copy it again if you have problems [06:12:29] [1/2] Now I got a fugly gray background [06:12:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488420703941427331/image.png?ex=69ccb74d&is=69cb65cd&hm=6880e3922d9b50a4027b42129592878bcfa900d63c4ccc30f53d275986314d24& [06:12:41] Actually, just set it to white I guess? [06:13:12] [1/5] ```ini [06:13:12] [2/5] #mw-content-container { [06:13:12] [3/5] background-color: #ffffff; [06:13:13] [4/5] } [06:13:13] [5/5] ``` [06:13:35] Now I got a white border [06:13:50] I'm starting to think that maybe the background image was an issue? [06:15:18] Better than the ugly gray. I'm not sure what else to do to fix this though [06:15:45] [1/2] does anyone know how to get rid of this blur behind contents [06:15:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488421527496949921/image.png?ex=69ccb811&is=69cb6691&hm=4e83b2a0c0449f76d054206b0de71bac077daf8ed57e9757acf3fc6c2fdf2c0e& [06:16:15] can you send a link to the page? [06:16:47] yes [06:16:48] check dms [06:16:56] My knowledge on the topic kind of ends here, not sure where to go from this, so you should ask for help in https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1019689826762637382 ! [06:17:10] Hm, yeah. Thanks for your help! [06:31:48] [1/4] .citizen-menu__card { [06:31:49] [2/4] -webkit-backdrop-filter: unset !important; [06:31:49] [3/4] backdrop-filter: unset !important; [06:31:49] [4/4] } [06:34:24] i have a JSON that doesn't appear properly even though its content model is set to JSON [06:34:27] https://arcaea.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Songlist.json [06:34:37] how to fix [06:40:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488427637679325204/image.png?ex=69ccbdc2&is=69cb6c42&hm=99f75623b3d7ad14ffbd0dda52ffefdecfa39e0d5a8d6ba67e9358fd99135942& [06:41:54] is this on mediawiki css? use filter instead of backdrop [06:42:40] oh it wasnt on [06:42:41] mediawiki css [06:42:42] lemme do that [09:11:37] (But also just an FYI that in 90% of the cases CSS linting is not accurate because MediaWiki is software from the 1400s and doesn't understand modern CSS :P) [09:11:55] Was that why it had those ugly gray borders [09:58:49] can't ignore the errors on save tho 🙄 [10:00:57] [1/3] if you got the extended template styles extension, in many cases it helps to assign the value to a variable and then asssign that variable to your property. [10:00:57] [2/3] if the property itself fails to save - I usually just assign it in the wikitext directly. if it fails there... only way left is to just slap it into Common.css. [10:00:58] [3/3] idk about CSS extension users tho, what level of technologic evolution is available there? [10:11:18] [1/7] :ThinkerMH: what do i put in Background-image: url("")? [10:11:18] [2/7] Because Putting image's address doesnt seem to be working. I also tried other attempt which ís by [10:11:18] [3/7] Url("WebsiteLink/Image'sName). [10:11:19] [4/7] Im not sure if this is the url is Problem, so im showing the image. [10:11:19] [5/7] What im trying to get is an image Background, and i can type in some Text, i thought it Will be so simple. But im so wrong [10:11:19] [6/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488480800617009163/image1.png?ex=69ccef45&is=69cb9dc5&hm=f69ce2c2bbbbbde5ea96f69d70ef3c95d7c9c1d3bc93c2fe1a5dafae45b35f07& [10:11:20] [7/7] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488480801594015774/image1.png?ex=69ccef45&is=69cb9dc5&hm=9c495f6b6c33af71a43be7d2b3b04cfb7c7caf07b26d764448a08206d209632f& [10:11:49] The code is too simple, but its just a background image im trying to get [10:12:31] u need to click on the image to get its static.wikitide link [10:12:34] [10:12:47] then use that link instead [10:12:50] This is only a problem on Template: namespace pages, not MediaWiki: pages [10:13:11] Ohh, i Will go try and see how it works, thank you! [10:14:08] You might also want to check [[Dev:Template:Background]] if all you want is to apply a background [10:14:08] [10:14:51] I see, thanks! [10:15:27] I Will go tell When it works [10:18:12] not really I just had errors saving css on my personal page [10:41:55] [1/2] IT WORKKKKSS!!! THANK YOU SMCH!!! [10:41:55] [2/2] @kai84 @ccxtwf [10:41:59] :EpicFaceMH: [11:22:25] :Miragloop: :Nutheze: [11:42:26] hello [11:42:37] hewwo [11:43:02] Are you uh... familiar with the Timeless theme? [11:43:05] Or something [11:43:07] I forgot the name [11:43:34] timeless skin [11:44:11] admittedly all skins wanna make me explode but you can find help with skins here, yes [11:44:25] miraheze skin when [11:44:46] waiting for pillbaby to learn php frfr [11:45:14] yeah i got a problem w/ it, it wouldn't even wanna apply the bg fully [11:45:34] as in, i stil see the solid color bg behing the .png [11:46:08] r u applying a bg across the entire screen [11:46:10] send link [11:46:15] to wiki [11:46:18] Yes correct [11:46:29] https://dawm.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [11:46:35] my money is on getting trolled by caching [11:48:23] the background was applied to #mw-content-block [11:48:30] which doesn't cover the entire width [11:48:36] ahh [11:48:42] so what's the solution to that [11:48:53] [1/23] ```css [11:48:53] [2/23] body { [11:48:53] [3/23] background: transparent; [11:48:54] [4/23] } [11:48:54] [5/23] body::after { [11:48:54] [6/23] background:url(https://static.wikitide.net/dawmwiki/e/e5/DAWMWikiBackground.png); [11:48:55] [7/23] background-size: cover !important; [11:48:55] [8/23] transition: .5s background !important; [11:48:55] [9/23] background-repeat:no-repeat!important; [11:48:56] [10/23] background-position: center !important; [11:48:56] [11/23] background-color: rgba(108,122,137,0.7) !important; [11:48:57] [12/23] position: fixed !important; [11:48:57] [13/23] width: 100vw !important; [11:48:58] [14/23] height: 100vh !important; [11:48:58] [15/23] content:'' !important; [11:48:59] [16/23] top:0 !important; [11:48:59] [17/23] z-index:-2 !important; [11:49:00] [18/23] } [11:49:00] [19/23] #mw-content-container { [11:49:01] [20/23] background: transparent; [11:49:01] [21/23] border-bottom:none; [11:49:02] [22/23] } [11:49:02] [23/23] ``` [11:49:32] important 😭 [11:49:44] i for some reason cant save the page ive tested this on lol [11:49:59] its boilerplate from eut dont judge me !! [11:50:22] i will, important is biggest css crime [11:50:37] straight to flexbox prison [11:50:43] OHHH THAT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER [11:50:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488505841639493773/image.png?ex=69cd0697&is=69cbb517&hm=506bf749403df7b59d90a38374e864894ee753a4821a6c6657c403511d3fd59d& [11:50:58] yay [11:51:24] [1/2] i love when things work [11:51:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488505989530648778/20260331-1151-07.2500205.mp4?ex=69cd06bb&is=69cbb53b&hm=4616a5fa1c88f7f214ce2031cb34f37dd1d1264bedfbc232f9c057ce63f1d47a& [11:52:58] [1/2] Now I just gotta know how to replace this fugly text with a logo [11:52:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488506388664815627/image.png?ex=69cd071a&is=69cbb59a&hm=5a7f7c81b0d5e4888ca9967f68d0564e8d18aab6f2d557858053d5d13bdde1ba& [11:54:24] Wait [11:54:33] For some reason after applying, it doesn't work anymore???? [11:54:59] [1/5] I didn't know up until about last week that MediaWiki coding conventions recommend doing [11:54:59] [2/5] ```css [11:54:59] [3/5] .class.class.class.class.class {} [11:55:00] [4/5] ``` [11:55:00] [5/5] rather than using `!important` lmao [11:55:00] what a mess [11:55:16] important is literally the devil so it makes sense [11:55:21] cache [11:55:36] Yeah, I removed the cache, and refreshed, still didn't work [11:55:54] lol i wanted to post a css snippet but got blocked [11:55:54] @unai #verify for links [11:55:58] tyy [11:56:39] verified [11:56:48] so do i just remove "!important" with .class [11:57:04] [1/10] (posting again) I got it working with [11:57:04] [2/10] ```css [11:57:04] [3/10] #mw-content-container { [11:57:05] [4/10] background-image: url(https://static.wikitide.net/dawmwiki/e/e5/DAWMWikiBackground.png); [11:57:05] [5/10] background-repeat: no-repeat; [11:57:05] [6/10] background-size: cover; [11:57:05] [7/10] background-attachment: fixed; [11:57:06] [8/10] background-position-y: 0; [11:57:06] [9/10] } [11:57:06] [10/10] ``` [11:57:15] the more specific a selector gets, the higher it ranks [11:57:23] if it works dont touch it [11:57:29] Timeless for some reason pushes the background position a little [11:58:48] Same effect [11:59:03] Works during preview but only after I apply it it doesn't work again [11:59:23] yes bc common.css changes take a while to update [11:59:30] o h [12:00:08] [12:00:11] Now how do you make those boxes that say "may contain spoilers", "contain incomplete information" blah blah blah [12:00:25] warning: eats your socks [12:00:34] huh... works when debug is applied [12:00:42] [12:00:43] sounds like something early early oxenfree would do [12:00:44] yea cause that bypasses the cache [12:00:47] [12:01:06] I wonder what's the need for LESS nowadays [12:01:25] I guess not all browsers support nesting yet [12:01:47] [1/2] What are these things called [12:01:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488508606520361071/image.png?ex=69cd092a&is=69cbb7aa&hm=04627bee5e9fed611260d98a51ab131b294dade241f2e1eb9837b1369c1b4a10& [12:01:52] These all appear at the top [12:02:02] [12:02:11] Yeah fair [12:07:25] How does one make an MBox? [12:16:13] Too bad—my wiki hasn't been approved for over a day now ): [12:21:36] I'm sorry to hear [12:30:20] if you want speed just disable syntax highlighting [12:33:51] <_arawynn, replying to kotyk_ua> A bit more patience, please. Right now, the queue goes back about 2 days and it's comparatively short. Your request will be handled in due time [12:35:43] [1/3] Oooh yes, the background thing is fixed. [12:35:43] [2/3] Now how do I fix this? [12:35:43] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488517145984766092/image.png?ex=69cd111e&is=69cbbf9e&hm=d2708ddd43e54ce9142e9a1f8c2ff8409aa6c8b98a7fdef7a4014579d3491805& [12:37:40] nah `#content .classname` is the #1 trick to use [12:42:11] [1/2] is true [12:42:12] [2/2] I had it on to test a codemirror thing but it does drastically slow down the load time 😩 [12:45:43] I stopped using syntax highlighting because of https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/User:TheWWRNerdGuy/data/StageNames.csv [12:46:18] and never really looked back because I can just see the formatting in my head anyway [12:46:34] and I have a vscode extension for wikitext [12:49:55] PHEW that is a big page!!! [12:50:30] It has been quite a while since I opened visual studio 😅 but an extension for it for wikitext sounds niceeee [12:55:56] Are CSS grids ahrd? [12:56:19] i think they're soft [12:56:53] visual studio or visual studio code? One is multiple gigabytes and the other is a text editor that you can add extensions to [12:57:18] Hi, Jane!!! [12:57:22] How do you fix the footer [12:57:36] I want to MURDER it in its sleep, but I don't think any alternatives were viable until Bucket came along [12:57:38] Like, atm the text is same, if not, almost same as white [12:57:45] even then I have no idea what to do with it [12:58:06] why do with something functioning well [12:59:41] I have a multi-step process to update it with placeholders every update, then we have to actually add the stage names, then my code randomly breaks because CSV formatting sucks so I have to re-edit the page to add in some speech marks to escape the commas [13:00:30] Mmmm definitely the first one 😔 It chews up storage space and never gives it back [13:01:06] oh and also I have to transclude it in a module page because the speech mark escaping means the entire thing must be inside a `
` which means if there's a broken link it's impossible to tell from the page itself
[13:01:26] 	  create a ui to operate the csv
[13:01:34] 	  avoid editing it raw
[13:01:45] 	  I'm not sure what theme or wiki - so hard to say. Text color is usually changed with the `{color}` css parameter. If you leave a link someone may be able to help you sooner (I am on the way to the dentist and don't have pc access atm)
[13:01:57] 	  this is hell
[13:02:11] 	  ahh, alr
[13:02:12] 	  it's very common that it gets forgotten too
[13:02:40] 	  save everything that's easy to get forgotten in the processing script
[13:03:09] 	  I see you have a support thread, if you stick it in there I can take a look when I get home (or someone else might be able to help first)~
[13:03:40] 	  I mean I kinda have that as a vscode extension but I mainly use it to debug issues
[13:05:37] 	  repeated processes all have the value to be packed up
[13:06:25] 	  Okie, noted 👍
[13:07:40] 	  -# what's that reaction for... so random 😭 /lh
[13:09:07] 	  She just does that
[13:10:00] 	  Ahh alr
[13:13:11] 	  (it's my way of acknowledging I saw a message! That's all~)
[14:48:37] 	  Refreshed?
[15:07:50] 	  @th3saroj (sending here to not clutter #cvt as much) Regardless of the outcome of your proposal, thanks for taking the time to think about how to take things a step forward! <3
[16:12:28] 	  Hi, Miraheze! Newcomer leaving Fandom here. Could I get a sense of what kind of turnaround to expect on an account creation request for a user who found their IP range was blocked? I have an editor feeling a little anxious about it, and it might help if I could give them a rough time frame to manage expectations.
[16:12:48] 	  @pixldev your ballpark to give an estimate for
[16:14:35] 	  [1/2] Sadly, not soon. The requests can only be accessed by some 8 people max I think, many of whom are not active, and the rest have a lot of things to do as is. What I’d recommend to you is you can probably actually create an account for them yourself using Special:CreateAccount, CVT powers are only really needed to bypass specific issues like title blacklist I thin
[16:14:35] 	  [2/2] k
[16:15:14] 	  Or if they want to use their account on other wikis besides the one is made on then we need to do that
[16:17:43] 	  Thank you! We're still waiting for our content to be imported, so how safe is it to mess around with user permissions and such before that's completed?
[16:18:16] 	  Page content?
[16:18:37] 	  Right. The wiki is approved already.
[16:18:39] 	  You should be fine, imports don’t contain user rights or permission info
[16:19:23] 	  Okay, cool. Thanks again!
[16:23:04] 	  My pleasure, and good luck!
[16:37:32] 	  I WILL learn the code Cosmos uses
[16:37:48] 	  And probably Refreshed too cause I like that one
[16:39:02] 	  wdym by the code it uses
[16:39:02] 	  Best skin ever, and nobody can tell me otherwise
[16:39:08] 	  like php and stuff
[16:39:15] 	  oh php
[16:39:25] 	  u sure u wanna learn php
[16:39:32] 	  it immediately ages you 15 years
[16:39:50] 	  u cant know php without having gray hair thats just a fact
[16:40:05] 	 danggggg
[16:41:14] 	  Is it that bad
[16:41:36] 	  i dont know ive not learnt it
[16:41:37] 	  yet
[16:41:41] 	  but from what i know
[16:41:43] 	  its ancient
[16:41:52] 	  old ass language
[16:42:55] 	  We don't tolerate PHP hate in this server, I'm afraid you will be executed 🔫
[16:43:15] 	  excuse me young man
[16:43:30] 	  Eat him Skye
[16:48:02] 	 lol
[16:48:16] 	 thou shalt be consumed by empress skye
[16:49:02] 	  i appreciate calling me young
[16:51:33] 	  this has started now so hopefully you'll be able to get to wiki'ing soon
[16:52:00] 	  Oh, wonderful to hear! 😄
[17:25:50] 	  I appreciate your work, but why is Wiki Viewer just staring at me instead of reviewing the request?  😄
[17:29:40] 	  ?
[17:33:59] 	  i think they just wanna get their wiki reviewed fast
[17:57:12] 	  it is judging you and it must look deep into your soul
[17:58:39] 	  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488598416543187165/image.png?ex=69cd5ccf&is=69cc0b4f&hm=50954d3c796f79edf1d7b16a911b36ebb96753f8463d359d183c664ad5638c62&
[18:05:54] 	  What
[18:06:38] 	  Are there any requirements for the CSS/JS Support Volunteers role
[18:06:58] 	  be active on discord and know stuff about CSS/JS
[18:07:05] 	 huh
[18:07:18] 	 poking around #support is good right
[18:07:33] 	 Crystalite13: yes
[18:07:39] 	 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:07:56] 	 wwr's acc was created 3 yrs ago on my birthday lol
[18:09:01] 	  Can I have it
[18:09:13] 	  my miraheze account?
[18:09:19] 	 yup
[18:09:46] 	 wait can I reply
[18:09:49] 	 aw nvm
[18:11:24] 	  No idea
[18:11:27] 	  @pixldev
[18:16:50] 	  Cite an extensive experience of giving css/JS answers and I can pass to the mod team for consideration
[18:17:24] 	  Roles are just pretty tags. It is more imporant how you bring kindness and beat back the world's darkness that way
[18:17:32] 	 yay kindness
[18:17:36] 	 boo darkness
[18:18:10] 	  The world may be a dark place, but together, if we all work hard, it can become a better place. World peace is possable. A Utopia is possable.
[18:18:23] 	 pix does "extensive experience" favor something like weeks of frequent css/js answers or
[18:18:28] 	  i can say he does not have it
[18:18:39] 	  And remmeber, you help a newbie on Miraheze,and they remember it. Years later, they help another newbie
[18:22:56] 	      \    /\
[18:22:56] 	        )  ( ')
[18:22:57] 	       (  /  )\(__)|
[18:26:36] 	  what did he mean by this
[18:27:32] 	  Smart thinking!
[18:27:46] 	 who meant by what
[18:27:53] 	 why am I who naught
[18:37:08] 	  I think the more useful part of a hat is lending yourself some credibility when helping others. For a long time I was helping out as "Verified Wiki User". No one has ever questioned me on the basis of lack of hats, though I do wonder if they'd be more willing to believe me if I have more user groups.
[18:42:15] 	  I do not want hats myself - does not stop me helping when I can
[18:43:26] 	  (dont tell anyone but 94% of helping in #support is googling with a minor amount of fucking around yourself)
[18:51:24] 	  don't tell them that!!!
[18:58:39] 	 they know the secrets!!
[18:58:47] 	 purge the message and silence anyone who saw!
[19:44:55] 	  can vouch this
[19:46:33] 	  hopefully in the future there's a way bucket can properly store and query templates
[20:00:15] 	  I mean without nowiki or WG's $ template you're not really going to be able to do that with any extension
[20:15:19] 	  Hey so uh
[20:15:48] 	  Am I the only one who legitimately cannot write a description of how a character looks like?? 😭
[20:17:50] 	  I just pretend I'm tryna tell someone who's blind how they look tbh
[20:17:56] 	  just start simple
[20:19:27] 	  "he wears a blue and yellow striped shirt with blue denim shorts, a red baseball cap with a blue brim, and carries a backback."
[20:20:17] 	  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488634058102800536/Ness_-_Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate.webp?ex=69cd7e00&is=69cc2c80&hm=ed6beed3d899d84b9e2afe8c29135d6a19f9abea5c807f8e5f43b9e3ad451eb5&
[20:22:22] 	  would nowiki also work on templates?
[20:24:32] 	  nvm
[20:26:53] 	  No, I'm really bad at it as well. As soon as I start trying, I forget what clothes look like.
[20:29:30] 	  trying to see if its possible to get a value from a param and convert that into nowiki for the bucket to pull
[20:29:37] 	  so if you have `{{Template|arg1=...|arg2=...}}/nowiki` then you can use `mw.text.unstripNoWiki` to get the actual template code. Then you can use `frame:preprocess` to actually use the template
[20:30:14] 	  an alternative thing that Cook talked about at MUDCon was having a `$` template that just converts the arguments to JSON
[20:30:48] 	  (both of these would require editing the template uses)
[20:40:26] 	  ic
[20:43:23] 	  [1/2] ideally for me, I would want a way to specify if a certain param within an infobox can/does contain a template of some kind. if the param is specified to contain a template, the infobox automatically converts to  (idk how I would do this without {{{1}}} becoming plain text for example). then that value is what is pulled by bucketput, then bucketget doe
[20:43:24] 	  [2/2] s the rest
[20:45:34] 	  [1/2] Im just playing around with bucket for 1 of my infoboxes but do plan to convert the rest once I figure it all out. Theres multiple other instances within templates that take a template call.
[20:45:34] 	  [2/2] Now most i can prob work around to not use a template in the param, but that isnt ideal and if theres a way i can create a system to automatically convert to wikitext for the bucket id take that approach
[20:48:00] 	  fully 100% ideal way is to edit module:bucketput so all values stored are first converted to nowiki, so I dont have to worry about doing much on the templates, but idk whats possible
[20:49:53] 	  yeah that's not going to be possible with mediawiki. the stuff inside the template gets expanded first. the only way to prevent the expansion is going to be to never do it, or to have some parser tag that prevents things from getting expanded
[20:53:44] 	  if I use {{#var}} within bucketput, would that also just query {{#var}} or would it actually query the variable output
[20:57:46] 	  Ok nevermind im just hitting a brickwall on every possible workaround lmao
[20:57:59] 	  aw
[21:02:27] 	  [1/4] what I dont understand is why is this
[21:02:27] 	  [2/4]  |price-format=
{{Price|%s|%price_type%}}/small
[21:02:28] 	  [3/4] displaying as this
[21:02:28] 	  [4/4] 25000 [[|]]
[21:02:58] 	 1+2+3...infinity = -1/12
[21:03:20] 	  {{Price|25000|} should display as 25,000C$ and it does everywhere else
[21:03:51] 	  I think you need to put nowiki in first
[21:04:11] 	  because the price template gets expanded before the containing template
[21:04:43] 	  oh
[21:04:50] 	  yeah shouldve know
[21:12:22] 	 im looking at the exttest wiki rn
[21:13:05] 	 what a throwback
[21:17:22] 	  How do I disable the ability for users that are logged out/don't have an account to edit?
[21:18:13] 	  Remove edit from *, or enable the setting requiring accounts to be email confirmed
[21:19:13] 	 eg go to the Special:ManageWiki/permissions/* page of your wiki
[21:21:55] 	  Oh cool, thank you!
[21:23:13] 	  Thanks for helping
[21:23:17] 	 np
[21:23:34] 	  Last thing I want is some motherfucker break into the wiki and reference some war criminals
[21:24:25] 	 yeah that would be bad
[21:24:45] 	 but abuse filter also will help block vandlism
[21:24:58] 	 which is why you cant go off spouting bad things on any darn wiki
[21:25:30] 	  oh nice
[21:25:35] 	  teach me crystalite
[21:25:59] 	 abuse filter is on your wiki already
[21:26:16] 	 can I have a link to ur wiki?
[21:26:27] 	  OK hold on
[21:26:34] 	  https://dawm.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
[21:27:10] 	 https://dawm.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/?rulescope=global&deletedfilters=hide&limit=1000
[21:27:16] 	 so here is a global list of abuse filters
[21:27:21] 	 these are automatically on all wikis
[21:27:42] 	 its for stuff like bad account names or spam
[21:27:52] 	 https://dawm.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/?rulescope=local&deletedfilters=hide&limit=1000
[21:27:55] 	 but this is the local one
[21:28:02] 	 on this one you can make up your own
[21:28:22] 	 https://dawm.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog
[21:28:39] 	 and then this page shows when the abuse filters are triggered
[21:29:07] 	  Thanks!
[21:30:06] 	  He made an edit so vandalous even his gang globally locked him 😭💔
[21:30:17] 	 who?
[21:30:55] 	  guys how do i set up relay
[21:31:12] 	 relay?
[21:33:01] 	  @river
[21:33:05] 	  Ok last question, it seems bucketget automatically sorts the table by firstedit or pagecreation, which is fine. Wondering if theres a way to flip that order so most recent firstedits appear at the top. order by seems to only work by alphabetically sorting 1 or more column, which is not what im doing here
[21:33:20] 	  the first victim has been glooped
[21:33:31] 	  Gloop
[21:33:38] 	 Augustus gloop
[21:33:39] 	  about to be the last
[21:33:45] 	  LOL
[21:33:50] 	  Bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket
[21:33:50] 	  going to break my monitor
[21:33:55] 	  I think it worked
[21:34:11] 	 we had to get Mr gloop out of the river with a massive bucket
[21:34:12] 	  can i have a uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mustard bucket
[21:34:18] 	  https://fischipedia.org/wiki/Template:Fishing_Rod_Table im cooking tho
[21:34:39] 	  Bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket
[21:34:40] 	 fischpedia blocked at school
[21:34:51] 	  i think with weird gloop logic you have a 5% chance of making a burnt template
[21:34:57] 	 hey look skye its fischedpedadfischs
[21:35:00] 	  gotta up your cooking skill
[21:35:16] 	  Weirdly my autopredict will only give me bucket so many times before it insists on sentences again
[21:35:21] 	  Gloopians
[21:35:21] 	  shouldnt be, unless u try to login
[21:35:40] 	 for me it is
[21:35:51] 	  i wonder what full sentence autocomplete will give you after those buckets
[21:35:52] 	 "category:games"
[21:35:57] 	 yeah yeah ok ok sure sure
[21:36:09] 	  damn so ur school specifically chose to block fisch
[21:36:14] 	 yeah
[21:36:19] 	  all my homies hate fischipedia
[21:36:21] 	 or it was filtered
[21:36:34] 	 I guess I gotta strap on in
[21:36:37] 	 and take it on the chin
[21:36:37] 	  https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/919097121834156042/1486058890633154560/togif.gif
[21:36:38] 	  truee
[21:37:01] 	  im so unc im immune to whatever this means
[21:37:19] 	  thats what a larp would say
[21:37:21] 	  [1/2] waiter waiter more white space please !
[21:37:21] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488653451411062854/image.png?ex=69cd9010&is=69cc3e90&hm=6846197b2b8a67cc52acfc608b5d6e6073ff02d8f7e199e60b9532d277793b2b&
[21:37:59] 	  [1/2] see how they r different
[21:38:00] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488653614523219988/image.png?ex=69cd9037&is=69cc3eb7&hm=e5120000cff6a810d59512bfa6061eff87abf7121e19d9778263bd81384cc28a&
[21:38:08] 	 wahhhhhhh what do ur links MEANNNN
[21:38:13] 	 IRC ur failing meeee
[21:38:19] 	 not even the ASCII cats work
[21:38:24] 	  Is that Timeless
[21:38:27] 	  do u not know what larp means lol
[21:38:28] 	  yo chat
[21:38:30] 	  time to invest in a vpn
[21:38:31] 	  how do i set up a relay bot
[21:38:34] 	 |\---/|
[21:38:34] 	 | o_o |
[21:38:35] 	  \_^_/
[21:38:37] 	 wahhhhhh
[21:38:40] 	  its fischipedia
[21:38:55] 	  the goat
[21:38:56] 	 how am I supposed to get a VPN on a school computer
[21:39:01] 	  i only know live action roleplay
[21:39:05] 	 the word VPN and proxy is blocked
[21:39:09] 	  exactly
[21:39:19] 	  Do americans eat rice and beans
[21:39:23] 	  its when ur pretending to be apart of a group ur not
[21:39:25] 	 no
[21:39:32] 	  Wwhat
[21:39:39] 	  How do they Not Eat Rice And Beans
[21:39:40] 	 what
[21:39:44] 	  beans on toast
[21:39:45] 	 I eat rice
[21:39:51] 	 thats england
[21:39:52] 	  Are you american
[21:40:02] 	 I was born in England but recent American citizen
[21:40:05] 	  with a side of chips and tea
[21:40:16] 	 with a Chinese mother and polish mother who met in England and moved to the us
[21:40:17] 	  yes toast with a side of chips
[21:40:25] 	  we r making a chip butty
[21:40:27] 	 ITS CRISPS YOU BUFFON
[21:40:28] 	  if u know u know
[21:40:44] 	  Does that make you american
[21:40:47] 	  what I'm thinking is that y'all should take this convo to #offtopic
[21:41:00] 	  yeah my original question got drained
[21:41:01] 	  https://giphy.com/gifs/boo-thumbs-down-dislike-WrxoaVPiq0cG4
[21:41:10] 	  what was it
[21:41:14] 	  dont make me use the red buttons kai
[21:41:22] 	  .
[21:41:26] 	  Sokye
[21:41:30] 	  oh bucket
[21:42:00] 	  layla has made templates to sort everything by any way youd ever want, why r u using bucket
[21:42:17] 	  because those templates use dpl
[21:42:20] 	  and dpl is fucking ass
[21:42:21] 	  dpl is no bueno
[21:42:32] 	  i wouldnt call it ass, there's worse options
[21:42:32] 	  has fisch passed the scale of dpl
[21:42:42] 	  its def the slowest one
[21:42:54] 	  yo chat
[21:43:02] 	  I DONT KNOW
[21:43:03] 	  i like how its wikitext but thats about it
[21:43:08] 	  miraheze will save 7 gazillion robucxks by having fisch not use dpl
[21:43:08] 	  are we allowed to reskin the homepage of wikis for april fools' day
[21:43:12] 	  like
[21:43:17] 	  with jokes n stuff
[21:43:31] 	  Is CodeMirror 6 safe to enable now? It says it's experimental but I have no idea if that's outdated
[21:43:36] 	  we're actually allowed to vandalize wikis on april fools with no punishment
[21:43:39] 	  No global policy saying no, just be wise and use good taste and sense please
[21:43:40] 	  LOL pls if u have a cost number share it
[21:43:44] 	  Haha, no
[21:43:48] 	  [1/2] this is on italian brainrot wiki
[21:43:48] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488655076032778270/image.png?ex=69cd9194&is=69cc4014&hm=b542004140086f98c39d94abcb4ca71f94ded73a1ce1862ca882e59e09cff7db&
[21:43:53] 	  i don't 🥹
[21:44:01] 	  nah the admins planned it
[21:44:22] 	  this wiki existing is an april fools joke itself
[21:44:25] 	  it's always been safe to enable, it doesn't eat your wiki
[21:44:33] 	  She does
[21:44:38] 	  ??
[21:44:49] 	  can you answer my question
[21:44:51] 	  he's saying I eat your wikis
[21:44:56] 	  fax
[21:45:02] 	  I did say that
[21:45:10] 	  what question because i likely dont know the answer
[21:45:13] 	  Last time I used it, it broke the syntax
[21:45:18] 	  Because funny and original material is hard to come by these days
[21:45:22] 	  the
[21:45:26] 	  @yzxs
[21:45:26] 	  theres lik 3 tech team members in chat
[21:45:35] 	  i mean its ur wiki
[21:45:41] 	  as long as it doesnt break any rules
[21:45:42] 	  [1/2] ...scary
[21:45:42] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488655555802304552/image.png?ex=69cd9206&is=69cc4086&hm=bf2c86243f871bbaee2cf5722ea0c51bc3aa7a52dd375c41f92c06ed8f9ce3c1&
[21:45:47] 	  Eh depends how you count
[21:45:49] 	  oaky
[21:45:50] 	  you are allowed to do mostly whatever u want with ur wiki
[21:46:01] 	  IM ALIVE
[21:46:48] 	  make a #support thread atp
[21:46:57] 	  yeah fair enough
[21:46:58] 	  im positive nobody but the 2 that made bucket work will know
[21:47:12] 	  lmaooo
[21:47:17] 	  I have a half-typed answer which would be best to be sent in a support thread.
[21:47:48] 	  hey so uh
[21:48:00] 	  How do you filter a name of a war criminal with the abuse criminal
[21:48:14] 	  I only did bucketput, bucketget's a whole different beast
[21:48:48] 	  I think it’s prob there already
[21:48:52] 	  bucketput is very straightforward
[21:48:57] 	  having seen the things I've seen I get the feeling this is actually true
[21:49:04] 	  oh shit, really?
[21:49:15] 	  What are y'all thoughts on Timeless?
[21:49:26] 	  regexes ig
[21:49:35] 	  Hi folks, new here. My wiki creation request was sent for human review. There are approximately 15-20 requests ahead of me in the queue. Is there a ballpark of how long I can expect it to take to get approved?
[21:49:38] 	  It's simple
[21:49:45] 	  Days I expect
[21:50:09] 	  [1/2] SOYJAK ABUSE PREVENTION I'M CRINE 😭
[21:50:09] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488656673802293370/image.png?ex=69cd9310&is=69cc4190&hm=dd558c5ddc94992462265fff164d46d149ff388b2210217680e730a079b08d9e&
[21:50:11] 	  https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog/backlog
[21:51:09] 	  also what even is soyjak abuse i'm wondering
[21:51:09] 	  I saw that. I've noticed the first request in the queue, which is about 6 days old, hasn't changed since yesterday, so I'm skeptical of the 2 day figure.
[21:51:31] 	  2 days is an average of some kind, I forgot the exact calculation
[21:51:33] 	  No idea
[21:51:46] 	  Sounds good. I'll be patient then.
[21:51:49] 	  https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285-Bot/RWQ_backlog oh wait the average is just explained here
[21:52:05] 	  Where is waki anyway
[21:52:22] 	  [1/2] help
[21:52:22] 	  [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1488657226783522897/image.png?ex=69cd9394&is=69cc4214&hm=2a28b0ed574aff78ff0374efd57bf1cc1b23a6680e08844ce748cace616337bd&
[21:52:32] 	  that 6 day one probably got CIA tortured, waterboarded and reopened 3 times
[21:53:16] 	  [1/2] Bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket coffee coffee mug coffee w
[21:53:16] 	  [2/2] ith coffee with coffee with the water bottles in my room in my bed is the only way that is going in my life is the only one in it I can see you there
[21:53:21] 	  Skye…..
[21:53:27] 	  Yooooo wait river?
[21:53:35] 	  Hi
[21:53:39] 	  actual poetry 🔥
[21:54:06] 	  Oh no if that's how anyone found out I'm at weird gloop this is truly the worst timeline
[21:54:27] 	  not your fault they are sleeping on fire blog posts
[21:54:30] 	  :EpicFaceMH:
[21:54:54] 	  I gotta know
[21:54:56] 	  River
[21:55:00] 	  I didn't know but I checked mod log first at least lmao
[21:55:06] 	  Do you have a favorite river?
[21:55:10] 	  @pskyechology considering the date in your area I think it's time for a pin
[21:55:27] 	  I do! It's the rhine
[21:55:42] 	  you know what, I will allow myself this gross abuse of my elected office
[21:56:00] 	  @mudscape
[21:56:06] 	  Mines the Vistula
[21:56:10] 	  glooped c:
[21:56:26] 	  We glooping
[21:56:38] 	  glooped up
[21:57:55] 	  Bucket
[21:58:11] 	  It’s gloop 2
[21:58:15] 	  What's the miraheze wiki with the most bucket usages?
[21:58:30] 	  @thewwrnerdguy hey they called you i think
[21:58:33] 	  Prob the test and regular wiki for it
[21:58:46] 	  cap, as the kids say
[21:59:07] 	  idk but the first one was [[mh:bucket]]
[21:59:07] 	  
[21:59:14] 	  I mean most data stored
[21:59:24] 	  I have never seen anyone say that these days
[21:59:44] 	  :thistbh:
[21:59:56] 	  Why is it red
[22:00:08] 	  :thistbh:
[22:00:43] 	  Afaik the record for bucket size is RSW Bucket:File ids with 102k
[22:01:11] 	  im too eepy to go digging for other bucket users so until proven otherwise wwr's cat bucket is the biggest by rowcount https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/Bucket:Cat
[22:01:36] 	  @yzxs QUICK PUT THE FISH IN THE BUCKET
[22:01:36] 	  What is a bucket
[22:01:47] 	  you put stuff inside and you can query it
[22:01:53] 	  bucketwiki has one with 6k items
[22:01:57] 	  Is it a bucket
[22:02:19] 	  Why do you put stuff in the bucket
[22:02:24] 	  https://bucket.miraheze.org/wiki/Bucket:Move
[22:02:30] 	  🪣 <- This /silly
[22:02:38] 	  can you pretend like you're the developer of my favourite extension and 331x it
[22:03:02] 	  If bucket is your power what are you without it
[22:03:23] 	  all seriousness this will be a NIGHTMARE to make a bucketget on
[22:03:30] 	  I don't know what this is a reference to
[22:03:40] 	  seems like....... you dont get it.............
[22:03:45] 	  Buckets maybe?
[22:04:12] 	  https://tenor.com/view/toonies-tooniesnft-bucket-gif-13878741907463905212
[22:04:14] 	  will fish in the bucket make top 3 largest bucket
[22:04:37] 	  If the bucket is your power how do you catch fish without it
[22:04:37] 	  i still don't know what to do in with the filter
[22:04:47] 	  cargo is my favourite structured data extension ever!!!!!!!!!!! it has no flaws and is made by my favourite writer and corporate mediawiki aficionado!!!!!!!!!
[22:05:00] 	  Im like 99% sure it’s already blocked
[22:05:16] 	  yo guys. how do you set up a relay bot
[22:05:26] 	  What is a relay bot anyway
[22:05:30] 	  the
[22:05:33] 	  recenet changes
[22:05:52] 	  @MirahezeRelay ?
[22:05:58] 	  yeah that
[22:06:19] 	  you need to add your webhook to $wgDiscordNotificationsAdditionalWebhooks
[22:06:30] 	  .
[22:06:30] 	  whats that
[22:06:42] 	  ?
[22:07:17] 	  oh ic, yeah lmk if theres any mediawiki outside of the bucket test wikis with over 1.3k
[22:07:48] 	  Eee... nic.
[22:08:00] 	  its not made yet
[22:09:05] 	  https://runescape.wiki/w/Bucket:File_ids
[22:09:09] 	  just a few
[22:09:26] 	  got it to 10k, I can use a bot account to paste the same page over and over again ig if you want
[22:09:54] 	  i gave db161 6 load spikes i think you'll be good
[22:10:25] 	  alright then. how many items do you want empress skey
[22:10:35] 	  [1/2] Oh no, I mean like
[22:10:36] 	  [2/2] I'm trying to make it like, say one name and immediately ban
[22:11:25] 	  111k just to flex on the puny "biggest" actually useful production bucket that RSW has
[22:11:32] 	  ⇝
[22:11:54] 	  is that a fishbone
[22:11:55] 	  ok thats a gloop wiki tho
[22:12:00] 	  they're tryhards
[22:12:09] 	  arrow
[22:12:09] 	  LOL
[22:12:12] 	  sorry skye the best u have is me
[22:12:13] 	  Actually I could also just make a stage info bucket and store that 100 times per page
[22:12:18] 	  does he know
[22:12:29] 	  for buckets
[22:12:32] 	  your ass is not coming back to fisch i already know that
[22:12:37] 	  I’ll look at it
[22:12:39] 	  💀 💀
[22:12:48] 	  thanks
[22:12:55] 	  like you could but i know you dont wanna lmaooooo
[22:13:03] 	  https://giphy.com/gifs/kanye-remake-9Xh1CGm4Hzo4g
[22:13:18] 	  prove it and join my evil minion army
[22:13:26] 	  kai x javo combo was lethal tho
[22:13:48] 	  dare i say prime fischipedia
[22:14:29] 	  in 46 minutes
[22:14:55] 	  awesome
[22:15:06] 	  i love the refreshed skin
[22:15:33] 	  2nd prime after layla got involved
[22:15:40] 	  we are entering the 3rd prime now
[22:16:17] 	  damn reminds me of classic WWR x AAGaming x Jollytone Jukebox
[22:17:24] 	  javo is actually doing unbelievably swag
[22:17:41] 	  i didn't even need to troll him with bad CSS advice 32 times
[22:29:16] 	  https://bucket.miraheze.org/wiki/Bucket:Move
[22:29:55] 	  great success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:30:26] 	  @mudscape my excellent evil minion army has crushed your records
[22:30:35] 	  now chunkediterator has an even better use case
[22:33:25] 	  Can I discuss my wiki in this channel? Because I want to discuss an April Fools update for my wiki.
[22:33:49] 	  Like, what ideas should I aim for?
[22:35:47] 	  what kind of audience do  you have to appreciate it and what's their temperment
[22:37:04] 	  My wiki: https://disability.miraheze.org
[22:38:02] 	  see with that I immediately think a great april fools joke is to have something about republicanism being recognised as a mental disorder on the dsm 6 but idk
[22:38:32] 	  would go great with a political crowd but im not sure if this is it
[22:39:00] 	  but an april fools article is a lot better than doing something funny to the interface
[22:48:29] 	  I have a better idea! How about we make a rebrand but make it about trains!
[22:54:20] 	  i better be purple too
[22:54:24] 	  Omg I am!!
[22:54:28] 	  yass queen
[22:54:49] 	  for the low low price of your soul anyone can become purple
[23:01:52] 	  Is there even a Miraheze app
[23:02:00] 	  nope
[23:02:10] 	  miraheze slop web app when?
[23:02:13] 	  https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-u-screaming-in-the-hotel-room-tpab-tpab-poem-to-pimp-a-butterfly-gif-4005569222539385807
[23:02:38] 	  but it is still possible to edit on phone, yes?
[23:02:43] 	  yes website
[23:02:44] 	  of course
[23:02:54] 	  some skins handle it better, others worse
[23:03:16] 	  [1/3] How do I yoink a gadget?
[23:03:16] 	  [2/3] I want to yoink this one
[23:03:17] 	  [3/3] https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-UserlinkAvatar.js
[23:03:38] 	  I haven't used gadgets before so I'm not really sure how they work.
[23:06:58] 	  [1/2] i made this though it's not really used yet
[23:06:58] 	  [2/2] https://battlecatsja.miraheze.org/wiki/Bucket:Forms
[23:07:47] 	  see I looked on the jp one and only saw the cats bucket which has 30 fewer entries than the english one
[23:12:07] 	  How does one edit a whole entire article and not just one section on mobile
[23:12:22] 	  Because clearly when I click the pencil, all I see is the content for the very top
[23:12:40] 	  Not additional headers like appearance and etc.
[23:16:15] 	  Is this minerva (default mobile skin)?
[23:16:51] 	  iirc there's explicitly no way to edit the main page normally but I can't remember if that applies to articles too
[23:17:05] 	  you could always just edit the url and put `?action=edit` at the end
[23:17:53] 	  We have gloopians and an army now 👀
[23:18:01] 	  How am I supposed to know... T^T
[23:18:08] 	  oh hi Jane!!!
[23:18:19] 	  Hi hi 💃
[23:18:39] 	  I answered your footer question over in your support thread 🫡🙏
[23:18:40] 	  for the low low price of becoming my minion, you too can get a cool purple role (that definitely wont disappear nuhuh)
[23:18:56] 	  jane jane jane wanna become an enemy of the wcag
[23:19:31] 	  minerva is the same skin wikipedia uses on mobile so if it looks like wikipedia mobile it's that. or you can screenshot it ig
[23:19:32] 	  [1/2] Are becoming an army member and a wcag enemy mutually exclusive
[23:19:32] 	  [2/2] I DON'T KNOW WHO I FEAR ANGERING MORE
[23:19:55] 	  2.39
[23:19:56] 	  :ThinkerMH: I pledge 👀
[23:20:08] 	  change server nickname first
[23:20:12] 	  smh
[23:20:12] 	  Oh no
[23:20:31] 	  Oh NO.... The purple .... It is so.. dim...
[23:23:56] 	  I kinda like it
[23:23:56] 	  [1/2] hmmm
[23:23:57] 	  [2/2] Can you even theme Minerva...
[23:24:01] 	  so much better than the green
[23:25:05] 	  It's pretty bright imo, I like it a lot
[23:25:16] 	  yes
[23:25:23] 	  omg
[23:25:27] 	  goated
[23:26:11] 	  But my delicious accessible contrast 😔 Some sacrifices must be made when one is conscripted into the Empress' army
[23:27:58] 	  first we must eat the budget so that we could afford accesible contrast
[23:29:35] 	  I thought we were eating the budget to by 512 KB of RAM
[23:30:10] 	  what is going on
[23:30:10] 	  we might get lucky if we find the secret cabal budget
[23:31:16] 	  join us
[23:32:40] 	  yall so corny for this bro whos changing their user to join some silly army
[23:33:28] 	  you
[23:33:41] 	  i bribed him with buckets
[23:54:01] 	  Server Nickname is fast and free, befitting an ad-hoc minion horde
[23:56:53] 	  https://tenor.com/view/milk-chocolate-milk-uncanny-uncanny-how-easy-it-is-uncanny-milk-gif-10522209596965566809
[23:59:26] 	  reminds me of the time when my parents got new kitchen knives and then because my mum was so used to having the bluntest breadknife in the world she touched the new breadknife slightly wrong and had to go to hospital
[23:59:50] 	  Oh my goodness??????