[22:49:46] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [4/51] <default>{{PAGENAME}}/default [22:49:46] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [5/51] /title [22:49:46] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [6/51] <header>Biographical Information/header [22:49:47] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [7/51] <data source="data1"> [22:49:47] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [8/51] <label>Gender/label [22:49:47] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [9/51] /data [22:49:48] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [10/51] <data source="data2"> [22:49:48] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [11/51] <label>Species/label [22:49:49] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [12/51] /data [22:49:49] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [13/51] <data source="data3"> [22:49:50] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [14/51] <label>Eye color/label [22:49:50] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [15/51] /data [22:49:51] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [16/51] <data source="data4"> [22:49:51] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [17/51] <label>Hair color/label [22:49:52] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [18/51] /data [22:49:52] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [19/51] <data source="data5"> [22:49:53] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [20/51] <label>Skin color/label [22:49:53] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [21/51] /data [22:49:54] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [22/51] <header>Political information/header [22:49:54] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [23/51] <data source="data6"> [22:49:55] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [24/51] <label>Date(s) Active/label [22:49:55] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [25/51] /data [22:49:56] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [26/51] <data source="data7"> [22:49:56] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [27/51] <label>Faction Affiliation/label [22:49:57] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [28/51] /data [22:49:57] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [29/51] <data source="data8"> [22:49:58] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [30/51] <label>Nation Affiliation/label [22:49:58] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [31/51] /data [22:49:59] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [32/51] <data source="data9"> [22:49:59] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [33/51] <label>Occupation/label [22:50:00] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [34/51] /data [22:50:00] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [35/51] <data source="data10"> [22:50:01] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [36/51] <label>Rank/label [22:50:01] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [37/51] /data [22:50:02] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [38/51] <data source="data11"> [22:50:02] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [39/51] <label>Wars Fought/label [22:50:03] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [40/51] /data [22:50:03] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [41/51] <header>Game information/header [22:50:04] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [42/51] <data source="data12"> [22:50:04] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [43/51] <label>Actor/label [22:50:05] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [44/51] /data [22:50:05] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [45/51] <data source="data14"> [22:50:06] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [46/51] <label>Character Status/label [22:50:06] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [47/51] /data [22:50:07] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [48/51] <data source="data15"> [22:50:07] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [49/51] <label>Appearance/label [22:50:08] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [50/51] /data [22:50:08] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy> [51/51] /infobox [22:54:17] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Would advise to use code boxes for pasting whole infoboxes [22:56:03] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [1/8] When using it on a page, you should be using it like [22:56:04] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [2/8] ```{{Character Infobox [22:56:04] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [3/8] |data1 = Example [22:56:04] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [4/8] |data2 = Example [22:56:05] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [5/8] ... [22:56:05] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [6/8] }} [22:56:05] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [7/8] ``` [22:56:06] <MirahezeRelay> <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [8/8] The `<infobox>` stuff only goes on `Template:Character Information` [22:57:26] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to pixldev> (You can also use ``` three ticks for full box) [22:58:40] <MirahezeRelay> <thenosnikliwlegacy, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Okay, thank you [23:18:25] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to yzxs> dev wiki, https://ccxtwf.github.io/MirahezeDevScripts/ , fandom dev wiki, look at some people's global.js [23:21:35] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> i have a question [23:21:51] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> how come my layout is radically different when im logged in vs when im logged out [23:21:53] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490129313729613906/image.png?ex=69d2ee91&is=69d19d11&hm=590eddc68931c3ba695baeb8da04201a53f69b83078d32dc705fe72c00a3dbd1& [23:22:06] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490129365420343546/image.png?ex=69d2ee9d&is=69d19d1d&hm=d0b332d44858427673a783ec0661106045b82ca60eeb0ce377d2f01133ca6f28& [23:22:14] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> skin [23:22:16] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> the top is when im logged out [23:22:24] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> the bottom is when imloggged in [23:22:30] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> top one is timeless skin, bottom is vector 2022 [23:22:41] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> [[help:skin]] I think? [23:22:42] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Skin> [23:22:57] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> i did change my skin [23:23:09] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> but for some reason its doing this [23:23:11] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> did you change it in user preferences or did you change wgdefaultskin [23:24:50] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490130052161994935/image.png?ex=69d2ef41&is=69d19dc1&hm=0df2cc128bf6dfbdb4757c00d9eb709ddf86b11aea2d4a9305520739316a08c6& [23:25:32] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to keeper_s3> what does your user preferences say then [23:25:48] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> wheres that located [23:26:00] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> Special:Preferences, "Appearance" tab [23:26:50] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> im trying to have it be vector on both [23:26:59] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> but for some reason its doing this instead [23:27:12] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> if you want it as vector on both then change wgDefaultSkin to Vector 2022 [23:28:40] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> i just did that [23:28:50] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> but its still not working [23:29:07] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490131132740796579/image.png?ex=69d2f043&is=69d19ec3&hm=f319c06b12e5f045766941760b4524501868f4ded4e42072545a23360195b8bc& [23:29:08] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> this right? [23:32:19] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> it'll take a bit of time to update when logged out [23:32:25] <MirahezeRelay> <yzxs, replying to thewwrnerdguy> great thank you [23:38:53] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> how long does it take to update? [23:39:05] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> i also cant change the font color to white [23:39:13] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> its dark grey [23:39:51] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> [1/3] .mw-page-container-inner { [23:39:51] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> [2/3] color: #fff; [23:39:52] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> [3/3] } [23:39:55] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> is this not correct? [23:40:29] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> @thewwrnerdguy [23:42:05] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to keeper_s3> [1/2] ? [23:42:05] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to keeper_s3> [2/2] Could you link the wiki? [23:42:12] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://newdawnmodwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [23:42:17] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> its a major wip [23:45:17] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> but the visited link colors are not working [23:45:26] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> i want them to be a bright cyan [23:45:31] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> theyre blue [23:46:06] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490135405717356584/image.png?ex=69d2f43e&is=69d1a2be&hm=f1815a18943b2f3fb3478a1441725da8a00906732c5fe8ee78d8273eff860aa9& [23:46:18] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> i want them to be yellow like that but they show up as blue [23:48:49] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> [1/5] ```css [23:48:49] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> [2/5] a:where(:not([role="button"], .new, .mw-selflink)), a:where(:not([role="button"], .new, .mw-selflink)):visited, .vector-pinnable-element .mw-list-item a:not(.mw-selflink):visited, .vector-dropdown-content .mw-list-item a:not(.mw-selflink):visited { [23:48:49] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> [3/5] color: var(--theme-link-color); [23:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> [4/5] } [23:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> [5/5] ```try that [23:49:15] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> or whatever your link colour is instead of --theme-link-color [23:49:36] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> taken from https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css#L-257 [23:51:45] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> its giving me an error [23:51:49] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> saying it expects rparen [23:54:05] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490137414205706411/image.png?ex=69d2f61c&is=69d1a49c&hm=afdbdb46b7afb5540a1bfaaaf1e51e827401a03761eb21a04804ed0a44565744& [23:55:23] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490137743333003506/image.png?ex=69d2f66b&is=69d1a4eb&hm=5c59655a902461c35f416046aae8dc0b8963c4ce3c0e04734eda6294053a1abc& [23:55:25] <MirahezeRelay> <keeper_s3> didnt worl [23:58:47] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> put `?debug=2` at the end of the url to see the changes [23:59:14] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy> it should automatically update after 5 minutes or so but in debug mode you can see the changes instantly [23:59:35] <MirahezeRelay> <thewwrnerdguy, replying to keeper_s3> yeah never trust the CSS editor when it tells you you have an error

[01:02:31] how do i count the rows in a bucket through the lua api, do i need to inefficiently select all rows then count? [01:10:56] hmm why do you need to count the rows in the bucket [01:11:08] because if it's just information you can see the bucket page [01:12:35] yeah I can't find anything to do that [01:14:30] Yeah I think at some point I wanted to do that but couldn't find any particular method other than selecting all grabbing the array length [01:15:30] if you wanna do it from the api then a html request to the bucket page might actually be the most efficient option (assuming it's really big) [01:18:18] migrating from cargo to bucket, for cargo i could count it, cuz its a wiki page did you know section, so its did u know theres x items and x machines [01:24:32] ah right. if items have some sort of numerical id then you could use that but otherwise I'm not aware of any way to do it [01:40:27] [1/2] Yeah i sure do love bucket [01:40:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489801796489707591/image-45.png?ex=69d1bd8b&is=69d06c0b&hm=4efb55a328db8a0f34c6579ca3b4bdb0a309b96a2e0add71a76588d985eb87de& [01:42:30] can it run doo- [01:52:07] uhhh [01:52:22] null edit at 1 fps [01:53:41] can bucket run bad apple [01:57:18] recursive substitution is magic and can make anything happen [01:58:23] need an ultrawide monitor for that [01:59:37] Since MediaWiki can run Doom, I don't see why not. [02:00:10] horse game kinda hard when you browse the old puzzles [02:09:21] My wiki got instantly approved, hello? 😭 [02:09:55] Hey I'm not complaining 🤷 [02:10:03] Yeah I noticed that earlier too [02:10:14] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1489767105787203644 they use an AI due to the number of requests [02:10:18] Ohhh [02:10:30] Well that's nice to mitigate the long waiting times it used to take [02:13:49] [1/6] ```css [02:13:49] [2/6] function p.count() [02:13:49] [3/6] local results = bucket("allitems").select("name").run() [02:13:50] [4/6] return #results [02:13:50] [5/6] end [02:13:50] [6/6] ``` [02:13:52] Okay yeah [02:13:58] @awesomeguy112 [02:14:20] [1/5] function p.count() [02:14:21] [2/5] local results = bucket("yourbucketnamegoeshere").select("name").run() [02:14:21] [3/5] return #results [02:14:21] [4/5] end [02:14:22] [5/5] return p [02:14:35] lobotomy [02:14:43] ty but alr solved that [02:14:51] with that method [02:15:06] only works if you have <=500 items in the bucket [02:15:08] awesomesauce [02:15:29] limit(5000) [02:15:34] you'd have to get a little more creative if you have more [02:15:41] true [02:15:43] ermm sometimes I refresh and my Miraheze says "Deleted wiki", sometimes when I refresh it shows the wiki [02:15:44] anyways its fine my bucket is 214 tiems [02:15:46] and some buttons aren't working [02:16:08] although tbh if you have more than 5000 then you might as well just say "and more than 5000 items!" [02:16:30] volunteer go volunteering [02:18:49] if thats the case... [02:18:58] il js not use programmaticly counting it! [02:20:10] Yeah you could just estimate it and just put it [02:20:13] smh [02:20:37] anyway porting doom is absolutely possible in miraheze [02:20:55] but that is... bronggngn [02:21:02] bad apple is possible with pretext.js rendering [02:21:17] or html on canvas when it gets baseline status [02:21:22] (It feels weird being cited in messages like this lmao) [02:22:22] (I felt too lazy to scroll all the way up again) [02:22:49] Bro got quote retweeted with the text "they use AI" it's so over [02:23:09] wheres my citations [02:23:46] actually theres a setting thats pretty much overlooked in the request of making my wiki [02:24:07] where i turned on something that says about the wiki covering about real person and stuff [02:24:17] where in truth this is just a game [02:24:27] its an oopsie i made i dont even know how do i turn it off [02:29:10] It's caching. Give it some time (a few hours?) and it should be functional. [02:29:56] "a few" 💔 [02:31:17] should i be concerned about putting it on my wiki request [02:31:23] Alright, thanks [02:38:56] Caching becomes a problem only if the wiki was previously deleted I believe [03:22:22] is bucket basically a module data? [03:32:27] define module data [03:34:03] nah, not exactly module data is just storing data inside Lua modules [03:37:37] Yeah basically, i mean you write data and pull data from it using lua modules, but its not a lua module itself [03:47:06] Bucket is what you should be doing instead of data modules [03:50:19] Which is to say, have your wiki pages store data from templates that regular users can comprehend instead of having that data in a big Lua module that few people know how to edit [04:17:34] Well okay maybe I shouldn't recommend Bucket for everything if the answer is more complex than that but the point that the data modules are not easily editable still stands [04:18:26] here's a more in-depth comparison between the two [04:26:30] Is there any reason on why Miraheze doesn't stylize their own wikis (Meta, Developers, etc), like how Weird Gloop did to both Vector 2010 and Minerva Neu?. [04:28:15] yeah there's some cases where having a data module makes more sense, like when you're compiling crowdsourced data [04:35:10] they not feeling it [05:41:57] hello y'all [05:42:21] :AP_earlmiot: [05:42:38] hampter decor... [06:49:56] [1/5] I brought this up a bit ago but never got the time to figure it out, basically I'm using DynamicPageList3 to sort things more easily on pages, and in this case its being used to show the trollfaces within a area. I would like to be automatically sorted from descending to ascending tiers, eg. easy, medium, hard, extreme, etc but all the current sorts only sorts them alphabeticall [06:49:56] [2/5] y would there be a way to make it sort by the tiers instead? [06:49:57] [3/5] [06:49:57] [4/5] [06:49:57] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489879679962841158/image.png?ex=69d20614&is=69d0b494&hm=3f517d1fbf40e6418f550888cfa4b899668c1ce2500cd7f2cb1504d6bb1d95a4& [07:14:56] Hey so [07:15:04] [1/2] How does one change the colors of the topside [07:15:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489886005799424041/image.png?ex=69d20bf8&is=69d0ba78&hm=9277dbfc07a2fc44ec8f63f0324b82c53db4932868d582c83cca5fba0819b839& [07:31:24] the border? [07:31:33] yeah [07:31:36] the header [07:31:51] yes but do you want to change the background or the colored border below? [07:32:20] The background is already changed [07:32:32] I do want to change the colored border below [07:33:35] .color-left { background: ... } .color-middle { background: ... } .color-right { background: ... } [07:37:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489891692541640835/image.png?ex=69d21144&is=69d0bfc4&hm=e75578fc8d082a3a02f22b6aeed2d720cadc3920092c77f60a08f40f9d60a39e& [07:38:53] i mean [07:38:58] enter the color there lol [07:39:33] o h [07:39:36] mb [07:42:14] [1/2] Oh that's beautiful [07:42:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489892841227288636/image.png?ex=69d21256&is=69d0c0d6&hm=cea70473092f70d064bd4c7bbe643004db8689f271cbf1a923d5e201185e3d4b& [07:42:17] What about the white [07:43:59] #mw-header-container { background-color: ... } [07:46:59] [1/3] OHH look at how it matches my baby boy 🥹 [07:46:59] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489894034326552588/image.png?ex=69d21372&is=69d0c1f2&hm=f47a1c586dd8b4f849c0f0448ed71c350e6cb8daf4f4e6ad3e0d984269a839ed& [07:46:59] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489894034771284100/image.png?ex=69d21372&is=69d0c1f2&hm=abf4ea3b8954ca59cebb26f6f94ea3a4f5253caa9dad90d674de3f09754a7b01& [07:54:05] 🤔 [08:47:52] OK so [08:48:02] you know one piece, right? [08:48:09] or at least any tv-related wikis? [08:48:24] I do [08:48:44] ok so [08:49:08] [1/2] this is the frontpage of toybox funhouse wiki, and i wanna make something similar to this [08:49:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489909674718265434/image.png?ex=69d22203&is=69d0d083&hm=a01a3262cc8537141dc8616c976fe2014a47a7462132e44337245874694894af& [08:49:54] only buttons i can think of is like [08:50:00] "episodes", "characters" etc. [08:51:16] [1/2] This is what I came up with (ignore the motorbike screen) [08:51:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1489910208154042428/image.png?ex=69d22282&is=69d0d102&hm=e70b5cdf5840a9145cc05d47430c88beb6c9c99aa3b93d809b159f85cf2992e3& [08:59:57] That feels like the start screen of a dvd. [09:00:38] There aren't enough dvd-themed wikis. [09:09:52] Hey... I liked that idea. [09:12:38] I was trying to be complimentary. [09:12:45] DVDs are nice. [09:13:44] Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. [09:20:48] Oh no no you didn't offend me! [09:20:59] I was saying it positively [09:22:56] Oh, ok. I think I've just confused myself then. [09:23:23] Anyways... [09:23:41] Considering that the Wiki I'm working is for an animated TV series, what buttons I should make... [09:23:53] Aside from "characters", "episodes", "the cast"... [09:41:53] ...hello? [09:44:21] this is a sub mostly of volunteers, so demanding peoples time like that is rude [09:44:36] ...right. Sorry about that. [10:16:26] should i ask stewards to disable cargo extension if i alr moved to bucket [11:48:44] how do you do the little footnotes that are like references with the tiny [a] and stuff that you click and it takes you to a note [11:49:39] note here/ref [11:50:12] might need to turn on an extension if you haven't already [11:50:45] should be Cite under Parser Hooks [11:51:27] i dont think it's ref its not a reference [11:51:46] its like in some wikipedia articles there would be an [a] and below a table or smth itd have a note in italics. i wish i had an example on me [11:53:35] Those are done the same way as chicago style references though. [11:54:56] still the ref tag [11:55:13] `` [11:56:19] oh interesting so whats lower alpha? [11:56:48] just changes [1] into [a] instead [11:57:12] lower alpha = lowercase alphabet [11:57:20] Lowercase alphabetical? [11:57:20] Ye [11:57:21] I have a great deal of ping today for some reason. [11:58:01] oh lower-alpha doesnt rly work for me it just says lower-alpha [11:58:36] Are you putting it inside the triangle marks? [11:58:48] and then it says Cite error: tags exist for a group named "lower-alpha", but no corresponding tag was found [12:00:04] I've no idea what that means, I'm going to run away now. [12:00:19] easier if you link the actual page [12:00:41] im not trying to link to a page or reference anything though [12:00:45] or do u mean show u what im doing [12:00:56] no i mean, link the page where you pasted the code [12:00:58] yeah [12:01:15] https://collegegymnastics.miraheze.org/wiki/University_of_Georgia [12:04:53] you need to add `` to where you want the footnote to be displayed [12:05:24] oh wait, that doesn't resolve the name error 🤔 just the lua one [12:06:09] maybe you need to define it like Wikipedia does? [12:07:15] oh i think it did work [12:08:05] can u refresh the page [12:08:05] i just wanna make the lower alpha 1 and 2 the same [12:09:33] how can i make but lower-alpha things just 1 [12:10:10] if i change lower alpha to a btw it works [12:10:14] it just says a 1 and a 2 tho [12:10:15] name it something else instead of "lower-alpha" [12:10:39] do you have other references on the page you want in other places? [12:11:18] i just wanted to do this one thing. the coach is volunteer assistant coach. i just saved that change so if u refresh u can see it [12:11:24] if you don't, you can just remove the `group=` bits. if you do, you gotta name it something to distinguish it from the other footnotes [12:11:38] oh so if its not group i just go a b c everytime? [12:12:09] if it's not group, it just defaults to numbers [12:12:24] yeah its defaulting to numbers [12:12:30] but i want both to be 1/a [12:12:36] preferably both a [12:13:57] oh, if you want the same footnote, it's "name" instead of group [12:14:20] you can name it anything, and it won't show up on the page [12:14:40] so /ref [12:15:08] and you can just use to trigger the actual footnote [12:15:15] it'll still default to 1 [12:15:39] it sorta worked but now if u refresh u will see yeah its defaulting to 1 and the reference is going to references instead of below the table i want it [12:15:48] if you want a, as i said, you'd have to make a MediaWiki page to define lower-alpha [12:16:05] yes, as i said, if you have more references on the page, you need a group [12:16:25] where do I do this? just? [12:16:50] [12:17:02] should be exactly that title with exactly that text [12:17:05]