[00:01:55] whistles [00:05:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki ? [00:05:29] thanks [00:06:18] Feels like something Cook would look into [00:13:54] oh no are we all turning into cook [00:17:19] That was inspired by Cook because I don't usually think about attracting new editors. [00:29:12] how long does itt take for domain to update? been around 5-10 minutes and says domain misconfigured [00:35:11] Link? [00:35:55] Although actually I'm going to sleepy sleep now so heh [00:38:09] It's https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestCustomDomainQueue/1015 [00:42:00] Yeah thas the one 😛 [00:42:28] pretty sure i entered in everyhting correcly [00:54:07] From https://github.com/miraheze/ssl/commit/2c74442166a0d466ac7598025f1ed957e3f5ce09 everything is working properly. I'm going to blame cache and say wait for a few more hours to see if the cache is cleared. [00:54:41] If not feel free to bring this up again here or on [[Phorge]]. [00:54:42]

[00:55:35] Is there anyway to adjust the type of sort wikitable sortable performs? [00:55:51] I want it to sort numerically, not alphabetically [01:03:21] `data-sort-type` and `data-sort-value` [01:03:26] [01:04:12] You may not need to set value if you have type as numeric [01:08:18] how exactly would i implement this if Im using ? [01:08:27] here lemme just send the section [01:09:13] [1/17] ``` [01:09:13] [2/17]

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Image/th	Name/th	Type/th	Value/th	Priority/th	Appraisable/th	Randomized/th/tr [01:09:19] [17/17] ``` [01:09:36] "Value" is the column that I would like to sort by number [01:09:38] Add these attributes to the `	`. E.g. `	`. [01:09:53] ok thats what I figured [01:09:55] perfect [01:10:14] thanks for looking into it will do if it does not revolve 🙂 [01:10:47] Thanks guys, was worried I was going to have to resort to witch craft to get the sort to work lmao [01:12:14] oh wait that didnt work shit [01:12:59] I added it in like his but the sort is still misbehaving [01:13:15] https://fischipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mutation_Table [01:17:56] I think it's working as intended? In bucketget you order by priority and then tie break by value. If I sort the table by value it does work. [01:18:20] Btw I've an edit stuck in moderation for which fixes the CSS https://fischipedia.org/wiki/Template:FilterTable/styles.css [01:18:35] highest value is 12x [01:19:02] oh perfect thanks so much [01:19:13] I havent had the time to mess with that, ill have someone approve it [01:19:44] oh awesome we can finally claim petra is a fisch editor [01:20:21] its only downhill from there [01:20:48] only 9 more edits for editor applications 🔥 [01:21:19] [1/2] Which seems to sort fine? [01:21:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490884144790769837/image.png?ex=69d5ad8f&is=69d45c0f&hm=3589878414a7ab516087e5ab748154c1ebc0e64a5d4879990374b9665022071e& [01:21:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490884215850532874/image.png?ex=69d5ada0&is=69d45c20&hm=2c1f9c1d8519b7984994d2d68cea178edb0118e382da205d6780e3f94e863f9b& [01:21:41] is ur js not working? [01:23:01] caching [01:23:07] works fine with ?debug=2 [01:23:36] am i cooked? [01:23:45] yea you on the grill [01:24:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490885010952163328/20260407-0124-15.6234763.mp4?ex=69d5ae5d&is=69d45cdd&hm=44a0c56a51b438d6167299350be0dd493d586d50358791cd6f2fddba751e0139& [01:25:09] that is with ?debug=2 [01:25:18] wtf [01:25:35] This doesn't make any sense. https://fischipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js?action=history was last modified in April 1st. The cached version should be long gone. [01:25:55] I also cant get it to return to that original state you see at the end when i refresh the tab [01:26:23] if you notice to, sometimes the "ascending" option puts 0 at the top and others it puts 9 [01:27:17] also i didnt see ur edit pop up in our pending edits channel so idk if its in queue or not [01:27:35] i approved it already silly [01:27:58] approves so fast it didnt even log [01:28:14] nah it was from a few days ago lmao [01:28:19] [1/2] Some step in the chain of caching went wrong. `https://fischipedia.org/w/load.php?lang=en&skin=timeless&modules=ext.themes.apply&only=scripts&skin=timeless&raw=1` is set to be cached for 365 days. [01:28:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490885906108907730/image.png?ex=69d5af33&is=69d45db3&hm=c6d671f851feab74cec998e78c92f88a036df54667b2545cebdd245607762d63& [01:28:34] staff are slacking [01:29:13] [1/2] my caching experiments out here trolling javo specifically [01:29:13] [2/2] i swear i disabled that a while ago but will look in a sec [01:29:41] funniest shit ever ngl [01:30:07] lemme ask if the guy who original brought the issue to my attention has it working [01:31:56] This still makes no sense to me. FilterTable worked on my machine a few days ago. How it stopped working is a mystery. [01:35:50] What are your thoughts on the Refreshed skin? [01:35:51] its no longer just me [01:35:59] thank god [01:51:59] Hi everyone! I’m new here, so sorry if this is a basic question. I’m having an issue with infobox styling on mobile/Minerva skin on my Miraheze wiki, and I wanted to ask where would be the best channel to get help with something like that. I already posted on the Help Desk too, but I’d really appreciate it if someone could point me in the right place here. Thanks! [01:53:30] for short questions you can get away with right here but if you wanna be certain your questions gets seen you should make a thread on #support [01:54:21] @yzxs cache shouldnt be trolling you anymore [01:55:08] Thanks so much! I really appreciate the help. I’ll go ahead and make a thread in support. 🙂 [01:55:47] [1/2] are we uh [01:55:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490892815981351085/image.png?ex=69d5b5a2&is=69d46422&hm=e93ee4553b79efc546326dd07369784a19205816c632c996a0b77aea4914811c& [01:55:48] sure [01:56:13] be so kind as to ensure you dont load from disk [01:57:15] what is disk😭 [01:57:44] do a force refresh with ctrl+shift+r [01:58:50] holy thats linked to my sharex lmao [01:58:54] one sec [01:59:57] still having the issue [02:00:10] ts is frying me [02:56:18] [1/2] Hi, does anyone know how I can change the green blur on the bottom along with the mw header on top? [02:56:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490908046715650309/image.png?ex=69d5c3d2&is=69d47252&hm=04477474ed1deac6648cd11521c2e5975e794d66690a3d921247f756e7eb13b5& [02:56:41] Its a page with its own properties [02:56:53] [1/2] but my main page has green accents and whatnot [02:56:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490908193314832534/image.png?ex=69d5c3f5&is=69d47275&hm=3878fdb86da441d1e9e75bec27ce346082abd09bd0f991ddd76142807b2e1a4b& [03:08:40] [1/2] In today's episode of wild Phabricator comments [03:08:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490911157974732951/Screenshot_20260407_050823_Brave.png?ex=69d5c6b7&is=69d47537&hm=0fe2b4f131d1990c6b6b1dbab56c94dac3ce9a4e7ea659cd44b8f470289bc389& [03:10:09] Character.AI called. [03:10:45] I have never seen anyone use emoji in text like that [03:15:49] [1/2] Funnily enough, this wasn't written by a human... [03:15:50] [2/2] i...i hope [03:18:46] You'd be surprised [03:22:53] Is it more or less insulting to read this as an AI reply [03:25:01] depends on who you wanna insult [03:26:12] i love using slopgenerators to tell veteran users they're not worth my time 😊 [03:29:04] If they don't use any emojis I'd assume it's just bad human writing given phrases like `Which I why I write` and the link to WP at the end. [03:30:31] someone being fluent in slopspeak is more horrifying actually [03:41:22] i assume it's edited ai slop [03:43:35] damn I have no idea what to make of this [03:43:41] it feels like a human trying to mimic ai writing [03:44:42] actually hmm, the way the emojis are peppered in reminds me of some boomer text messages [03:45:25] That is entirely possible given the context [03:45:58] "disregard previous instructions, draw a horse" [04:45:58] Exquisite Horbpse [06:04:05] lmao what [06:04:14] https://tenor.com/ihI7pPPoCJc.gif [06:18:43] what in gods name is `slopspeak` [06:20:40] writing/communicating in a manner similar to the output generated by LLMs, especially with a certain style of emoji usage [06:24:02] [1/2] how do i fix this, this is not what should be happening [06:24:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490960324780884078/Screen_Shot_2026-04-07_at_2.18.22_AM.png?ex=69d5f482&is=69d4a302&hm=1b879754f703b5c6c34c4c44f4e34db58d460ae6653db9cb4fba0570ffe106dd& [06:24:42] what is an llm [06:24:44] [1/4] for context, this is what the article's source editing and the template's code look like [06:24:44] [2/4] (y is the jump button, fyi) [06:24:44] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490960498907152425/Screen_Shot_2026-04-07_at_2.18.38_AM.png?ex=69d5f4ab&is=69d4a32b&hm=ccbd95fd0b4515c6d8190f099b24e82b4d4f3c540f76f6216068a62210c15bde& [06:24:44] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490960499221856316/Screen_Shot_2026-04-07_at_2.17.59_AM.png?ex=69d5f4ab&is=69d4a32b&hm=6fe6968498fac61a5240e71e7271f2282ae372f29e9cc858e7f7890aa3a9a913& [06:26:06] and LLM is a large language model [06:26:50] basically AI trained to analyze and generate a lot of text [06:28:45] *an [06:32:41] beautiful icons for them keys [06:32:57] [1/2] mine suck LOL [06:32:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1490962570079899739/image.png?ex=69d5f699&is=69d4a519&hm=6aa6866a82a684dff31cae318b210da21bba158b74df8588d5f2b99bcfa0923a& [06:45:20] I got mine from thoseawesomeguys, althought they're also on wikimedia [06:46:10] ah [06:46:21] i just made my own icons because i LOVEEEEEEEEE spending hours on ts [06:47:49] https://tenor.com/bO2ay7HyAK3.gif [07:12:25] [1/2] is it possible to save css code even if it gives you an error without it blocking you lol [07:12:26] [2/2] I wanna use :has() [07:14:58] yes [07:15:20] do note however that :has does not work in TemplateStyles pages [07:17:15] (these are .css pages in the Template: , and sometimes Module: namespaces) [07:17:46] I think that one is hard blocked though [07:18:40] ughhhhh a:yotsusob: [07:18:48] that's where I'm trying to use it lmao [07:19:07] is there a reason it's blocked there [07:21:48] <2n32> heya \^_^ [07:23:48] templatestyles just lacks support for a lot of stuff it's very annoying. Like I can understand why it rejects some things (like external images) but it seems to work on a whitelist system instead of a blacklist system, and they don't seem to update it all that often [07:26:13] maybe they're just trying to play super safe with compatability [08:01:40] You need to put it in MediaWiki:Common.css [08:31:29] see, that ends up being annoying too, cause now you need to go through a confirmation prompt every time you save Common.css [08:31:41] I ended up making it into a gadget to avoid that issue [08:32:27] but that's not the simplest thing to explain [08:32:57] I hope AceEditor and/TemplateStyles fixes this issue soon [08:39:48] `:has` is tracked in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T217722. Since it's in the 2023 baseline, we'll probably see it available in TemplateStyles in 2030 lol. [08:40:56] We might see it in TemplateStylesExtender earlier though. [08:58:39] Guys are buckets better than lua dictionaries/list with string indices? [09:02:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781862108274098198/1465169225663643648/Inform_israel_Discord_GIF.gif [09:10:40] They are looking to replace Ace with CodeMirror , which allegedly solves the issue with outdated linters [09:11:11] Have you tried it, it should be under Beta > Improved Syntax Highlighting [09:12:03] hmm [09:13:14] i'm not seeing it [09:13:21] Uh, codemirror? [09:13:43] the option [09:14:16] it's not in additional settings -> beta or under codemirror config [09:18:08] Hmm I wonder if that's because of $wgCodeMirrorV6 [09:21:20] I'll check in a bit, there are probably other config options here [10:57:00] nvm it requires some configuration that isn't available on Miraheze yet [10:57:29] rip [10:57:51] well it's targeted for 1.46 so hopefully it makes it by then [10:58:29] although imo the real problem is templatestyles (alternatively, having a way to make the same gadget handle css and js without delaying the css) [11:01:32] [1/2] `$wgCodeMirrorEnabledModes['css'] = true` and `$wgCodeMirrorEnabledModes['javascript'] = true` and `$wgCodeMirrorEnabledModes['json'] = true` and `$wgScribuntoUseCodeMirror = true` and `$wgScribuntoUseCodeEditor = false` and `$wgTemplateStylesUseCodeMirror = true` and `$wgTemplateStylesUseCodeEditor = false` and did I mention Gadgets introduced `$wg [11:01:33] [2/2] GadgetsDefinitionsUseCodeMirror` but it goes entirely unused because someone accidentally used `$wgScribuntoUseCodeMirror` in the code [11:02:41] Feel free to make a task or PR [11:03:16] I probably will when I figure out how well this thing works [11:03:31] I'll have to try this out on UT/DR first when I upgrade to 1.45 [11:04:04] You could have it as separate gadgets [11:04:47] Cool [11:05:13] like how I have DarkHighlightCSS and DarkHighlightJS here [11:05:40] yes this is what I do [11:05:47] it kinda sucks though [11:05:56] Yeah [11:07:12] spacing yay. try reading through https://river.me/blog/the-tag-that-shall-not-be-named/#whitespace--transclusion , you have some newlines in your template that don't need to be there [11:09:18] It's puzzling that there was an issue in the TSE repo for :has but it got closed with no explanation [11:09:30] Even though TSE apparently still doesn't have :has [11:09:45] As far as I can tell at least [11:13:11] [1/3] "better" is subjective. Unless something's gone horribly wrong, Lua tables I'd imagine are more performant than Bucket calls (and by more performant I mean probably a few milliseconds unless you've got a ridiculous amount of data). However Lua tables are not very editor-friendly. Bucket allows you to store data from wikitext which means that normal e [11:13:11] [2/3] ditors can maintain your data [11:13:11] [3/3] See also [[Help:Structured data]] [11:13:12] [11:39:46] How long does it typically take for a wiki to be approved or denied? Genuine question [11:46:23] 2 - 4 days [11:47:37] Keep in mind that volunteers are reviewing, so they will review when they have times [12:23:42] <_arawynn, replying to osoken2438> The AI has given you a reason why it didn't instantly approve your Wiki, you can/should answer what it brought up so we don't need to ask you the same question which makes the reviewing faster once somebody gets to it [12:25:07] I did answer it [12:31:56] Just waiting now [12:34:03] [1/3] Why the hell does the Minerva skin not have a button to “cancel” when editing? [12:34:03] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491053443484352723/IMG_5367.png?ex=69d64b3b&is=69d4f9bb&hm=06925652f046956589cabeaa9a741dc08fadaa5af25a939d3b27158e797b7ca3& [12:34:04] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491053443731951696/IMG_5368.png?ex=69d64b3b&is=69d4f9bb&hm=bb103994ad8e60795ad2f053a8ca8e6f9808089671bc910a3e6208ce56aff3bd& [13:00:57] Lets ask the wikimedia foundation [13:13:27] Because they're stupid [13:53:14] Saying they're stupid isn't very constructive [13:59:19] Minerva makes some questionable assumptions about what mobile editors will and won't do [13:59:33] It was designed for a very specific viewpoint of WMF Design teams [13:59:56] One of our responsive skins is probably a better choice [14:04:56] what are the other responsive ones? I know Timeless and Monobook have responive options. [14:06:00] Citizen [14:06:26] Vector 2022 kinda if you turn on $wgVectorResponse [14:06:59] Cosmos [14:10:45] miraheze discord server members try not to be snowflakes challenge [14:12:55] sigh [14:13:01] Dude. Be respectful. [14:17:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936087908631343105/1369600288448843817/attachment-2-1-27.gif [14:17:27] not beating the "italian brainrot wiki users are all children who need to touch grass" allegations [14:18:44] Fr [14:20:16] Please take this somewhere else [14:20:20] Ideally nowhere [14:37:18] -# I am cring but not very cring [14:52:03] damn what the fuck happened 😭 [14:55:04] Intersting. [14:56:27] Responsive v22 my beloved [15:18:46] Imma steal this [15:18:48] Thanks [15:19:17] No problem [15:21:03] Ah right… [15:21:48] [1/2] On another wiki they managed to add in the cancel button manually it seems [15:21:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491095659728605194/IMG_5370.png?ex=69d6728c&is=69d5210c&hm=4957af6fbf0d3b9a3aea059f8b669d6272a65b7f20caeeb91d226bda044df0ff& [15:22:39] If my wiki gets approved I got like 18 long ass entries ready [15:22:55] 💔 carpal tunnel speedrun [15:31:04] can we redirect to a link outside of miraheze? [15:31:21] Yeah [15:31:34] You can add it to your interwiki table and check the "forward" box [15:31:50] Then use `#REDIRECT [[iwprefix:Page]]` [15:32:57] For future knowledge when I’m able to create my wiki, does one need to know how to code in order to customize my pages [15:34:20] Just steal modules from other wikis nobody can tell you off [15:34:28] dats legacy vector... [15:34:56] Dunno how to do that but that’s why I’ll probably watching YouTube videos during my initial creation [15:35:08] YouTube answers everything [15:35:11] u dont rlly need to code if its just basic styling [15:35:30] just learn some basic css or adapt css from wikis you see [15:35:35] Thank you ice spice, any new songs recently [15:35:39] u do need to give some credit or description [15:35:44] No i'm in my flop era [15:35:52] 💔 [15:36:08] It's extremely helpful to know basic html, that's all you really need for starting out imo [15:36:27] My computer science teacher was right [15:36:36] We all gonna have to learn coding one day [15:37:07] <_arawynn> there's some Help Pages on Meta for customization [15:38:16] Alright. I probably shouldn’t jump the gun though until I get approved otherwise I’ll have learned it for no reason. I say this despite already having written like 12 things in my notes [15:50:12] right… [15:55:59] yeah cause that's... not using mobilefrotend [15:56:02] nor minerva [15:56:16] girl you literally work for that wiki [15:57:46] The skin pisses me off, because the navigation bars are JS scripts [16:01:05] YEAH BUT I DONT KNOW HOW PATRED MADE THAT???? [16:01:37] She did ALLLLL of the wiki styling and stuff and I have no idea how tf she pulled it off [16:01:57] u need ur chatgpt for the coding and styling [16:04:21] okay i might be crazy but i think i remember hearing abt how u can load stylesheets through a gadget as a templatestyles alternative? [16:04:31] Yeah [16:07:02] I don't know if there's a Meta page on that but describes how you can define gadgets [16:09:23] nvm there is [16:09:47] Yeah, but they do fail gracefully and still technically work if you turn off/aren't using JS, which is more than some skins can say [16:11:19] War [16:14:22] a wiki is hosting lotteries where you choose a random number and the closest one gets owner powers for 1 day [16:31:23] my option is not listed [16:58:00] :StrongestOpposeMH: [16:59:32] incorrect, each wiki will have its own licensing terms that must be respected [17:00:37] Then ask chat gpt to modify the code so it's different [17:01:08] that's what they did with claude source code [17:04:36] or you can just...attribute them? [17:05:13] instead of wasting tokens for a potentially awful refactor [17:08:06] how long will mods let him troll the chat lol [17:08:40] Dunno. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [17:15:39] [1/2] gonna ask [17:15:40] [2/2] is the css extension better than putting it all on one stylesheet? [17:16:01] like is putting an individual page's style on the page itself better than putting it on common.css? [17:16:28] I find it loads quicker, i'm sure its better data wise, but it tends to stop working sometimes [17:17:36] most miraheze wikis are licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0 (some might be different), so as long as they copy from compatibly licensed wikis and link back to where they got their code from, they'll be fine [17:18:07] its easier to manage, templatestyles stylesheets r not subject to the cache times of common.css, and only using common will lead to lower load times [17:18:09] bad practice [17:18:37] although load times r negligible if the amount of css is also [17:19:04] [1/2] i see [17:19:05] [2/2] is it common for it to stop working? or is it just a result of me moving stuff around [17:19:33] if ur moving pages around thats likely the cause [17:19:43] i cant say i've experienced it stop working before [17:19:48] yeah im cut and pasting stuff from common to the individual pages [17:20:06] the common page we use takes like.... 10 minutes to load [17:27:54] Boy this ur wiki 😭😭😭😭😭 [17:28:29] WELL MOST PEOPLE IN THIS SERVER DONT KNOW [17:28:30] SO SHHHH [17:28:41] THATS YOUR WIKI [17:28:45] LMAO [17:28:45] Or well I WORK ON THAT WIKI [17:28:49] BUT I DID NOT STYLE IT ALL [17:28:53] PATRED DID ALL OF THAT [17:29:01] 😭 🙏 [17:29:02] IDK HOW SHE DID THIS MAGIC [17:29:38] Aw mannnnn sewh.miraheze.org oh man nnnn yooo [17:29:40] I am however working on styling Minerva on my wiki currently [17:29:50] I’m hoping it’s worth it [17:29:51] minerva 😢 [17:29:59] Can we murder minerva [17:30:00] LOOK OKAY IM TRYING MY BEST [17:30:05] WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO USE? CITIZEN? [17:30:09] yea [17:30:13] citizen mobile [17:30:17] No use timeless you Chud [17:30:18] !!! [17:30:24] no skin gets close to citizen on mobile [17:30:31] okay well… I’d rather leave that over to someone else to style 🥰 [17:30:35] im not doing allat [17:30:46] I’ve heard that skin is a pain in the ass to style [17:30:57] SOOOOOO ILL PASS FOR NOW [17:31:08] for anything other than full size yes [17:31:27] the second u squash the screen everything changes [17:31:29] mobile doesnt work [17:31:30] its awful [17:31:45] overrated skin [17:31:54] On mobile for my wiki I just currently use the vector skin [17:32:02] It’s okay but to even read anything you have to zoom in and allat [17:32:05] better than vector 2022 [17:32:24] Vector 2022 just looks ugly to me I’m sorry [17:32:30] idek what each skin looks like [17:32:33] I’m using Vector 2010 [17:33:00] It's [17:33:01] Horrible [17:33:35] Legacy vector for the win wohooo [17:33:37] Vector 2010 for the win [17:33:46] 🤤 🤤 [17:33:46] 🗣️🗣️ [17:38:10] with templatestyles or pages like MediaWiki:Whatever.css that you import in common.css? [17:38:42] templatestyles [17:38:48] it worked before, thats why im doing it [17:39:11] vector22 is the default one [17:39:41] with the HIDEOUS collapsable sidebars [17:42:02] 🤨 [17:42:15] Wait why do I have a minion again [17:46:33] my point was copying without attribution is still a violation of the licensing [17:46:42] correct [17:49:16] do you mean like after saving it takes 10 minutes to see the changes or that it takes 10 minutes to actually load the wiki page? if it's the first one put `?debug=2` at the end of the url [17:51:08] 10 minutes for the changes [17:51:19] ill try the debug thing thanks [17:51:29] well if it's for testing things out you can use a browser extension [17:52:13] and bypass the need for refreshes and `?debug=meow` [17:53:23] it's `?debug=2` or `?debug=true`, I don't think `?debug=meow` does anything [17:53:39] it gets casted [17:56:01] oh weird, it used to work that way on Fandom's MW [17:58:00] Fandom might have hacked core. Last time I checked something like [`$isDebugMode = $params['debug'] === 'true' \|\| $params['debug'] === '2';`](https://github.com/lihaohong6/RenderBlocking/blob/096fc47dad9dca153b02cba3db81f412c87fb2be/includes/RestApiRenderBlockingAssets.php#L23) is how debug mode gets checked [17:59:51] [1/2] Nevermind it's either `true`, `1`, or `2`. [17:59:51] [2/2] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/6413897549e0d02738a61eb04e34610b559b178f/includes/ResourceLoader/Context.php#L139 [18:01:13] Apparently `debug=1` was removed as an alias and restored again. [18:02:29] [1/2] > From MediaWiki 1.44, debug mode version 2 became the default mode, and debug=1 was aliased to the default for backward-compatibility (T367441). So essentially, debug mode 1 & 2 do exactly the same thing as true. [18:02:29] [2/2] yeah [18:13:28] I like how Refreshed looks like on mobile. [18:24:24] it's a minion train [18:26:12] They aren't that bad. Quite useful too. [18:27:30] The skin would be great if it wasn't so difficult to customise, almost as if the skin was like that on purpose. [18:31:27] the page css still doesnt work [18:31:38] https://nostraightroads.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:00:57] !warn 1192875277517328523 GCP violations [19:01:57] @q38wf I'll give you a week to think about if you can continue to have a productive presence here. [19:18:55] :bombasticsideeye: [19:29:01] What does GCP stand for? General Content Policy? [19:29:06] :steveo_kek1: [19:30:20] Global Conduct Policy [19:30:20] got caught, pimp [19:30:54] Thanks. I never heard that acronym before. [19:33:29] (Thank you also for asking, I didn't know either!) [19:36:50] Jane I have beef with you [19:37:08] Much to my surprise I was browsing GitHub the other day to see ANOTHER BUG TICKET [19:37:12] I almost died [19:37:15] /hj [19:39:09] GCP? [19:39:14] Oh o see [19:46:35] Why would they violate the Google Cloud Platform [19:49:08] Evil Jane [19:49:36] [1/3] Is there a way to improve search results? I always find myself having to search exactly what I'm looking for, because the suggested page only appears if I type the exact name 😔 here's an example: [19:49:36] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491163050076536963/image.png?ex=69d6b14f&is=69d55fcf&hm=90102d6b023c7880136f806566ba7856f581faac2a408940a64f6f4c1239cd23& [19:49:36] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491163051079110696/image.png?ex=69d6b14f&is=69d55fcf&hm=51582ad8fc8a38f3268d9928a2a80529bd886617c313fe923b3c4d83d841e7f1& [19:50:00] I hate MediaWiki's Special:Search [19:50:17] What kind of trickery does Fandom do to make their search actually work [19:51:19] :bombasticsideeye: :stare: [19:51:47] But!!! I didn't tag you about it!!! So in reality I followed instructions,,,, [19:52:10] I'll let you off! [19:52:38] I think it also was teeny tiny and probably not anything most users would run into because table captions aren't super common [19:52:52] Ask to enable CirrusSearch on [[SR/RC]]? [19:52:53] [19:52:58] I've grown to appreciate people who make bug tickets [19:53:14] I wonder why that extension is locked behind SR/RC [19:53:23] Is it unstable? [19:53:26] Because it requires running some scripts to build the index [19:53:30] I agree with Kocka above, we enabled CirrusSearch and it helped a lot altho Inwas initially hesitant [19:54:18] [1/2] :stare: [19:54:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491164236783681659/IMG-20260406-WA0022.jpg?ex=69d6b26a&is=69d560ea&hm=af6f38d5116fc2b9622443200a64b038b83d3024dc4995bc93a635d14a218c2f& [19:54:30] And tech was very quick to rebuild the index for us when it failed on initial enable [19:56:58] Helped with file searching too [19:56:59] It is enabled on my wiki, it definitely helped with the case sensitive issue [19:57:45] Oh that page is a redirect to another namespace [19:57:46] If you're still seeing that then it might be worth seeing if your search index can be rebuilt! If you give me a min I can find the support thread i used [19:57:51] That's why it can't find it [19:58:12] That's the default behavior for all cross-namespace redirects I'm pretty sure [20:02:31] [1/2] When I run `new mw.Api().saveOption('searchNs14', 1)` in my console it enables searching in that namespace by default [20:02:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491166301803253861/image.png?ex=69d6b456&is=69d562d6&hm=b9c020a51df2f007891ec9a2751fc6813416f8e1ada01d9fc22d1748ea78ace8& [20:02:48] Which means that it could theoretically be set in default user options [20:02:54] But I don't know if ManageWiki has that [20:04:01] [1/2] Try this option? [20:04:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491166680414556395/image.png?ex=69d6b4b1&is=69d56331&hm=8d2c62129383802ff78d92f66277001dbaa854d3fda3f0a4ac688678ed75b699& [20:04:13] Curious to know how stable ManageWiki's code is [20:04:47] And if it works on non-wikihosts (like The Undertale/Deltarune Wikis) [20:05:21] Well we didn't install it because it's complex [20:05:33] And I think the dependencies are undocumented [20:05:47] And we only have like 10 wikis rn [20:05:54] I see [20:06:10] Maybe it would be quite useful if someone documented the dependencies [20:31:32] ok so [20:31:49] [1/2] i'm making a timeline page, and i dunno how to categorize it [20:31:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491173676782059681/image.png?ex=69d6bb35&is=69d569b5&hm=423b054ab8df5cd5ffd03e1d291acfc73f883f5cede424ee84685f43691ad5ef& [20:32:04] obviously i want to intertwine both real-world and lore timelines into one [20:52:15] This seems pretty intuitive to me [20:53:39] Maybe "Reality" instead of "Real World" would cause less confusion but in lieu of an actual timeline I think this makes sense. Could be a blurb before 1977 that says "No known events 1970-1966" maybe [20:54:12] I see... [20:54:23] Wait, FUCK [20:54:37] I accidentally listed it as reality... :BowieWorry: [20:55:20] I think either works tbh [21:01:48] is there a quick way to see how many GB my wiki is? 😛 [21:02:00] not really [21:02:06] do you mean files or like database [21:03:44] Oh no, I meant like as in, I mistakenly labeled that as a real world event when it isn't! [21:03:59] It's more like a lore-type event [21:04:21] just wondered how much space it would take if i migrated it to a self hosted server, i consider playing around with it at some point (wont leave miraheze tho, i need your tech skills xD) [21:05:05] mediawiki itself is likely going to take up more space than the contents of your wiki [21:05:46] only remotely gets on the radar if the wiki is media heavy [21:06:32] which is the part that could burn self hosting both in terms of it gobbling more storage than countless pages put together for a measly webp and in terms of it taking up most bandwidth unless you've got something like cloudflare to lighten the weight [21:06:33] Quite like Windows [21:07:42] ah okay, thanks! [21:09:32] [1/2] Should this be listed in the timeline... It's personal... but sorta at the same time it's a way of... paying homage? [21:09:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491183169796575262/image.png?ex=69d6c40c&is=69d5728c&hm=5b9d5b83f0957277d1306ac16dac22ee920801e0932b43bb3dd673013f952a98& [21:12:55] Special:MediaStatistics gives you an estimate of the file size, but that's not including deleted files [21:16:40] Oh yea, I forgor to mention [21:16:55] Is it ok if I add you as friend, for like wiki-making and such? :joyandwhimsy: [21:21:53] Also doesn't cover thumbnails, IIRC [21:22:15] [1/2] Sure, np [21:22:15] [2/2] I'm slow on replies (don't have mobile notifs on) but all good 👍 [21:22:24] Ohh ok!! [21:22:25] Thanks! [21:53:22] [1/2] is that considered an error [21:53:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491194196965720255/image.png?ex=69d6ce51&is=69d57cd1&hm=d5237823f16cf33b7f4f90768a9431aa2794fc95581df878bd27f0bbb7552981& [21:55:21] nah, you just cant upload .exe files [21:55:32] I think it's because it detects ".exe" rather than it being an actual .EXE file [21:55:34] its within the name of the file, not extension [21:55:40] oh what the [21:55:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491194790891753522/image.png?ex=69d6cedf&is=69d57d5f&hm=4c706260cca63fb4e5f192025d93b3a2ec0f1a9da65f89d504f39aedb97711fe& [21:55:46] i see [21:55:49] rename it then [21:55:50] Just name it something else [21:55:54] yea [21:56:03] nyaboEXE.png or something ehe [21:56:36] well its very incovenient if the bug could be actually bypassed somehow [21:56:50] Well it stopped you. [21:57:06] So I wouldn't worry much. [21:57:38] Is it really a "bug" if it's intentional? [21:58:23] the wiki structure is just data driven and that image is one out of 1000 consistently working other media files that came upon such an unexpected bug ') [21:58:46] its difenitely not intentional, you can upload any other name containing . and it will work [21:59:04] parser just checks for .exe before actually verifying its attempted to be uploaded as an extension or something similar [22:00:31] Since they only allow those file types listed, you think someone might upload a malicious file using those extensions? [22:04:46] I don't think its a bug, MediaWiki likely matches the first . in a filename anf thinks its the extension [22:04:53] (although maybe it is and it should actually detect the last .) [22:06:41] No file system is a big fan of file names that include multiple file extensiond [22:08:15] rename it to nyabo_exe.png [22:09:21] does moving the file to that name work? [22:14:25] They intentionally check "all" file extensions for prohibited file extensions [22:15:08] It's been introduced this commit 17 years ago I think [22:15:44] I can't read all those 500 files on mobile though that's just what blame is telling me [22:19:09] [1/2] YES! [22:19:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1491200687919464619/image.png?ex=69d6d45d&is=69d582dd&hm=cb38f02303666bbe260cb5b052c7803e01c0f8d6deeb131e03a5458ab80481bd& [22:19:16] a:fishle: [22:20:07] yw 😉 [22:46:02] wikitext in commit messages [23:28:17] Is it possible to upload files enmasse? [23:34:19] yes [23:34:29] there's an extension called Special:BatchUpload [23:34:37] you can also request a dump on Meta wiki [23:42:36] i forgot we had that MirahezeRelay [23:42:40] freaked me out for a second lmao [23:42:49] thank you though that helps a major amount [23:43:54] Tip for BatchUpload: Fill in the description before dragging/selecting the files, as that immediately uploads them [23:44:57] If I don't need a description I can just drag and select tho right [23:45:08] Yeah [23:45:22] sweet [23:51:34] YO I GOT APPROVE [23:51:47] sadly I gotta go to work tho 💔 [23:51:54] congrats!