[01:08:05] @nibblypup @orduin [01:53:29] How long does it usually take for a request to be accepted [02:16:35] [1/2] I found out this was a hoax, according to what I've heard from one of my partner wiki's Discord servers: [02:16:35] [2/2] > I just heard it was a false alarm. I was talking about that AI moderation hoax earlier. But it was a false alarm. [02:21:26] I've seen some mixed information on it. Without better confirmation, I don't really think it's worth us doing anything right now. [02:31:49] it seemed pretty extreme to be true, but I always err on the side of caution. [02:57:34] The aggressive version of hash matching against ncmec's database does get a lot of pattern related false positives. [02:59:11] So that's probably the grain of truth in the story - more things might be getting flagged as 'of concern' if they switched to the aggressive match version [05:01:29] that's not quite right [05:01:35] you did make the infobox with that template right [06:17:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523573564563918998/IMG_6673.png?ex=6a4c99f4&is=6a4b4874&hm=d6e8f748d0cf6b92157f713d9a8abc78eb1205a425202dae9f9744ea05e76533& [06:21:55] I take of what I said back. [09:18:42] What is https://x.com/mirahezeb [09:56:58] relic from the old era [10:30:23] It's not AI it's simply CSAM [10:30:53] PhotoDNA is at times inaccurate but false positives are better than false negatives [10:38:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523639292134428692/image.png?ex=6a4cd72b&is=6a4b85ab&hm=12512293476c414d73f75f4f7a1ea2cf60834263c34970abe628a838bec72b3d& [10:54:28] An old service that used to be offered in partnership with Fosshost [10:54:37] Fosshost went bust [10:54:45] And bots shut down with it [10:55:25] Both us and Wikimedia run PhotoDNA too [10:55:44] But we have humans checking it (unfortunately for the humans who have to look at the CSAM) [10:57:29] as does WO [10:57:48] along with the CF scanning on top [10:57:54] I have a feeling cloudflare scan it differently [10:57:57] We don't do CF scanning [11:05:23] [1/3] How do I change the Main Page title... [11:05:24] [2/3] and the pencil thing having a lock on it [11:05:24] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523646037422506015/20260706_180417.jpg?ex=6a4cdd73&is=6a4b8bf3&hm=f15d0cafb25f74ae6928b0b03bc1d743387eb2a7ace404759946617870126dc3& [11:07:05] tyvm for the info, I was in panic when I saw ppl spreading it lol [11:07:20] Sorry this isn’t answering your question 💔 but thenspecies names sound really interesting, is this a personal project or is it from some sort of media? [11:07:42] a personal worldbuilding project! [11:07:51] Woahh I love worldbuilding [11:08:06] Funnily enough I’m working on mine too rn [11:08:11] How do the species look like? [11:08:13] I might also make another flip for the hcommunity-made species... [11:08:32] [1/2] theyre anthro / furries... [11:08:32] [2/2] but some are humanoid looking [11:08:44] I assume Noctivid has something to do with the night? Because the name reminds me of nocturnal [11:08:54] Ooo [11:09:30] Also what’s that cross symbol next to Noxthis? I’ve seen it in some wiki articles and I still have no idea what it is [11:09:37] [1/2] yep, theyre nocturnal creatures lol [11:09:37] [2/2] and theyre a descendant of an exinct species [11:10:23] that species is extinct during either 1st century or 2nd century era, last seen in roman regions but I might expand the lore later [11:10:56] Is the world like [11:11:07] An alternate version of Earth [11:11:13] Or is it a different planet entirely [11:11:17] more like alt history [11:11:45] history still happens, but theres not only humans, there are nonhumans and they coexist with each other [11:11:56] (aka no fantasy speciesism) [11:14:20] Ooo [11:14:26] I might also introduce variants of each species depending on their region or ethnicity [11:15:10] not only their heights but their colors [11:15:12] That could be interesting to see how itd affect the culture [11:15:29] You can move the main page like any other page [11:15:36] not sure what you mean by pencil icon having a lock though [11:15:55] like... making it not easily edited nor vandalized? [11:16:35] Wait I think I know the setting for that [11:17:03] also theres social norms too... even for nonhumans that are made by nonhumans [11:18:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_manage_who_can_edit_my_wiki [11:18:39] tyvm danabanana [11:18:48] and tysm too emiliers [11:18:52] Exactly I’m so tuff [11:18:59] What are they? [11:19:46] [1/2] like, imagine... [11:19:46] [2/2] a woman who happens to be faschirum is expected to hide their ears when wearing a veil, but male ones dont [11:20:07] but since they have a tail, both have to hide it [11:21:23] Ooh, why the ears specifically [11:26:13] Also out of curiosity, is it a group project or are you working on it by yourself? [11:46:28] [1/2] Im currently working it by myself [11:46:28] [2/2] but soon enough if contributions and ideas proposals are made, we'll make it collaborative eventually [11:46:59] many reasons... can be religion related... culture related... etc [12:04:34] I like the idea so far, it could really open up to a lot of possibilities [13:25:15] how do i store a nested table usihtg bucket [13:41:20] or do i just input it normally [13:41:23] as one value [14:12:48] [1/2] what's up with this [14:12:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523693201230401536/image.png?ex=6a4d0960&is=6a4bb7e0&hm=58ceba57dc7cbbb34e332e38be4096925abd8a57835d6fffc8f22c5c465df56c& [14:20:04] store it as json [14:20:24] there's an email there you should email if affected [15:02:49] nah i didn't get anything [15:05:55] If you didn't actually do any "cross-wiki abuse," it's likely because somebody near you IRL (e.g. a family member or neighbour) has had the same IP address that you're using right now. You should be able to use that form it links to ask for help [15:06:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523706704930279504/image.png?ex=6a4d15f3&is=6a4bc473&hm=efa1845836ef7d4c20932d6ce1e9953b8660d51628a92aa074e8464f3229986f& [15:06:30] that's possible [15:13:55] i camt [15:19:54] how do i do that [15:20:26] and will bucket still be able to access it? [15:26:41] oh wait i just sent my entire ip address here [15:26:44] damn [15:31:19] `mw.text.jsonEncode`, and the bucket field should be `TEXT` [15:31:34] i mean i guess bro [15:31:44] how do i get an image dump from [[fandom:monkeyraft]] [15:31:44] [15:32:01] i need someone to upload something to the internet archive right [15:40:37] [1/3] does this infobox look nice? (ignore the placeholder audio files for now) [15:40:38] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523715293212311633/image.png?ex=6a4d1df3&is=6a4bcc73&hm=bc6fd59c01d49e7b1bd7bb6e81faa28deeef290ee421666b91200f9c03f15b27& [15:40:38] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523715293816553552/image.png?ex=6a4d1df3&is=6a4bcc73&hm=04591c949891815c0602627304f649438f75cfe77cdcba2ae975f670455d3157& [15:52:01] Your IP can't be used to track you; you're fine! It can only get your approximate location, but it can often be miles off. Your IP address isn't unique to you; other people will have had it before, and others will have it in the future. Don't worry 🙂 [15:59:57] i'd rather play it safe and never take the chance that someone would narrow it down [16:33:14] i lik eit [16:39:04] Agreed, I would have censored the IP adress in the image if it were me. I was just saying it's not the end of the world [16:39:42] Your IP can be used to track you to a point [16:40:38] It's only going to be give most people a general area though [16:40:54] Or potentially what you've been doing on other parts of the web [17:02:54] ya !! [17:08:01] MOOMIN PFP??? [17:16:04] I think it's wikiteam3? idk @pskyechology is usually the one who does it [17:33:18] hii whats the page for masseditregex called? [17:34:13] [1/2] wait was it activated wrong [17:34:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523743890526568640/image.png?ex=6a4d3895&is=6a4be715&hm=369acc001b45da6e0467c96044178de8516c322176aecc402faf5fa18d6602d9& [17:35:26] Special:MassEditRegex [17:36:58] thanks [19:01:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523765879395848293/image.png?ex=6a4d4d0f&is=6a4bfb8f&hm=4ec45c5af40f5f3e8bc40f38bb015b605f9c08bcaf1ec559111ee184b28b01e1& [19:01:55] yes i know [19:01:58] i was still better safe [19:02:00] than sory [19:02:24] It's called spam [19:02:31] You're not trying to make anything safe for anyone [19:09:04] Gah [19:09:15] I wonder how hard SElinux is to set up with MediaWiki [19:09:25] Does Miraheze use SElinux? [19:12:23] Question: How do i insert a military conflict infobox template [19:12:36] it does not work when i use the normal wikipedia code thing [19:12:53] No [19:13:04] Never import from Wikipedia [19:13:08] i dont [19:13:09] See #developers-wiki [19:13:12] i just wrote template [19:13:14] infobox [19:14:37] I don’t even know how to import i’m on mobile [19:14:39] I’m so confused rn [19:18:16] [1/3] Ok bro idk how this works [19:18:16] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523770071908876349/IMG_5822.png?ex=6a4d50f7&is=6a4bff77&hm=144bfb1c5ab38a01c6b1d0ac64fc05d913620861922b59056db2977be9e72d62& [19:18:16] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523770072496214026/IMG_5821.png?ex=6a4d50f7&is=6a4bff77&hm=9e8bf3d317084c2b67f8b56a8a2978da95e4a7443455a3ff7d90fbcfd7588abe& [19:21:25] Why no SELinux? [19:22:07] And 2nd'ing Rhinos, don't imporant wikipedia, [[dev:]] has templates [19:22:13] [19:29:49] Because we don't need military grade toolings for additional security [19:31:07] Hmh, I think I will use it just to spite myself [19:31:30] That's a terrible idea [19:32:38] I hate myself enough [19:32:39] I did the terrible sin of importing from wiki and i was suffering the consequences until claude helped me through this [19:33:11] sigh People aways import wikipedia [19:33:22] its more realistic [19:33:26] messy yes but if u fix it [19:33:28] it's really good [19:34:00] I run fully custom templates ofc [19:35:46] Guys [19:35:53] I did the infobox template import thing [19:35:54] But [19:36:01] does antone know how i can mkae it look like wikipedia [19:36:03] like pinpoint [19:37:28] Not really [19:39:53] if one is going for the real wiki look i'd say its the best [19:40:31] There is no “real wiki” look. [19:40:59] eh i'd argue [19:41:09] idk coding so i just import everything and it looks exactly the same [19:41:10] am happy with it [19:59:51] How do i remove an import [19:59:57] I dont want it anymore [20:03:01] Delete it [20:09:21] How [20:13:54] There should be an option to delete a page, fi that's what they [20:15:05] Can I know where [20:15:11] It’s more rhe import [20:15:13] From like [20:15:15] a template [20:15:32] And i dont want it to replace my own code thing with a template i imported earlier [20:16:27] [1/2] Oh, so you replaced your own template's code with an import? [20:16:27] [2/2] You should be able to go to "View history", scroll down to the version before the import, click that version to preview it, edit, and save. [20:16:41] Ok wait [20:16:50] History in my page right? [20:18:54] Yes. [20:20:52] And they rollback? [20:22:53] I’ve trued to make my militsry conflict infobox look like wikipedia’s and it isn’t working i’m cooked [20:23:03] [1/2] Rollbacking will likely revert edits past the template you coded. [20:23:04] [2/2] Go to the version before you imported the template. [20:23:07] Its invisible for some reason [20:23:09] Or, actually, send me a link or so. [20:23:15] Ok [20:23:22] Wait [20:23:25] all im trying to fix [20:23:26] is [20:23:29] Infoboxes [20:23:31] Are like [20:23:33] transparent [20:23:52] This is because you imported a template, right? [20:24:24] Yes [20:24:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523786743545991328/IMG_5824.png?ex=6a4d607e&is=6a4c0efe&hm=e32ac951d79de7d6ab2a9d813c0c392bd85d0ffc9e774e2fa8b32ad08b1adac0& [20:24:35] This is meraheze [20:24:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523786784016961556/IMG_5825.png?ex=6a4d6087&is=6a4c0f07&hm=1ed7fc8e9f80e5b0da7d8d4f6dfd3d663cb38d3e829b1cecde26b31a02198e41& [20:24:42] And this is wikipedia [20:24:48] it had colors and borders and lines and whatever [20:24:58] but the one on miraheze is transparent [20:25:09] is there any way to fix this [20:25:44] Personally, I'm not too experienced with infobox CSS, but I think adding a stylesheet could help you customise it like however. Whether with something on the individual page or adding it to Common.css. [20:25:48] ask chatgpt or claude if u want instead solutions basically [20:25:51] especially with coding [20:26:01] oh [20:26:06] they will basically help u modify the borders and stuff very easily [20:26:20] Do you have one thats accurate [20:26:43] Yes [20:26:46] slide [20:26:53] which template is that btw? [20:27:02] infobox military conflict [20:27:09] let me check [20:27:10] im trying to import it into the thing [20:27:11] my page [20:27:12] on miraheze [20:27:13] yes [20:27:14] okay [20:29:32] [1/2] I just imported it and i got this [20:29:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523788010708275402/image.png?ex=6a4d61ac&is=6a4c102c&hm=af26d9ce3b67082d6ac7015328df5736d4ab7448ced415a3037c56b1fa14fc31& [20:30:07] my css is different but if urs is default from wiki [20:30:10] it should look like the wiki one [20:36:51] [1/3] Can you please send a link to your template and detail what you are trying to accomplish? If you imported an infobox from dev.miraheze.org, there is some CSS styling you will have to apply. [20:36:52] [2/3] Or are you asking how to use a template? [20:36:52] [3/3] Either way, a support thread may be a better way of organizing [20:37:50] You will get much faster and more accurate answers from asking knowledgeable volunteers rather than asking an LLM [20:53:51] Hi I have a question. I created a new wiki and I'm reusing some text that I originally wrote myself on a Fandom wiki. Is it okay to reuse my own writing on Miraheze? [20:55:31] yes [20:56:41] licensing's a complicated issue but if you wrote 100% of the content then that's your content and you can use it how you like [20:57:47] Ahh that's reassuring, thanks for clarifying [21:01:01] Your content is only public domain but only to you :p [21:02:33] I don't think that's a good way of explaining it [21:03:19] it's because you are the intellectual property owner of your own wiki contributions. Therefore if you wrote 100% of the content, then you are the intellectual property owner of that content [21:03:30] Is there a way to get Upload Wizard or the other batch uploader extension, to update existing images, rather than flag them as duplicates? I have not got pywikibot working yet, nor the web api. [21:24:28] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523801833074856037/image.jpg?ex=6a4d6e8b&is=6a4c1d0b&hm=099a35eb319c1b0edcf1658fa49a5421929dc4c32547afe720d94a342ebbd267& [21:24:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1523801833771106365/image.jpg?ex=6a4d6e8c&is=6a4c1d0c&hm=5a2243f57d645121b7ea9051bb43aceb0d59908dcc0580356a60ec4ba9a1533d& [21:25:12] @Discord Moderators [22:03:58] [1/3] Heya, thinking about moving from fandom to Miraheze [22:03:59] [2/3] Fandom wiki got closed with 0 reason, and acc banned, wrote to support. But already tired of shitty automod and not even giving reason of why banned. Thinking of moving wiki to Mirazhee [22:03:59] [3/3] Who moved wikis, what can you say about it? Good or bad decision? What about images? [22:06:42] [[help:moving from fandom]] I'll post this link here too. basically, all images and all pages can be easily imported to Miraheze, the more difficult part is making stuff work (e.g. ImportJS and global lua modules no longer exist, and the fandomdesktop skin isn't open-source so you'll need to use a different skin) [22:06:43] [22:15:14] Okay, understood more or less [22:15:51] Imma try to somehow reopen wiki to download all images 😭 [22:17:15] Any community guidelines in Miraheze? [22:17:52] [[GCP]] and [[content Policy]] are the main ones [22:17:53] [1/2] [22:17:53] [2/2] [22:24:27] [1/2] "Wikis must be organized around a coherent theme with discernible standards." [22:24:27] [2/2] Our wiki is mostly from and for tight-nit roleplaying community for preserving history of our world and possible loreization/creation of art in future. Is this more or less coherent theme? [22:27:06] [1/2] "No spreading insults, hate, or rumors; or promoting violence or harassment against a person or group of people." [22:27:06] [2/2] High-key much better than fandom where your page could get deleted for basic swear word which is used as quote of character and not even a slur or insult of anybody [22:27:10] I like it already [22:27:17] my oc wiki of 3 years got closed as well . for a couple months of inactivity because life happens [22:27:27] so I'm done with fandom [22:27:58] [1/2] Ours was pretty active but got closed too with 0 explanation [22:27:59] [2/2] Fandom became so trash [22:28:15] too many ads anyway [22:28:33] Somehow my oc fandom wiki has remained open for 8 years despite never editing it. [22:28:38] It’s a mystery [22:29:02] I remember in 2018 how fandom was much better, less ads, how whole wikis used forums to roleplay in. Fandom wikis were one time whole communities. [22:29:05] Anyway I’m not staff but I’m pretty sure that’s fine [22:29:47] I avoided miraheze for a while because I Don't really know how to code but I'm dealing with it out of spite [22:30:52] [1/2] One thing about importing a wiki [22:30:53] [2/2] So if I don't care about change history I upload a small xml, and if I do, a big xml or if it doesn't uploads - request import? [22:31:00] odd swears are totally irrelevant by miraheze standards [22:31:12] and yeah you seem to have the idea there [22:32:05] the main thing for wikis is probably the 'is the wiki suitable' question, its a good one to have worked out sooner so it avoids any headaches later [22:34:58] unless you're the only person who ever edited the wiki, uploading the big xml is going to be necessary for licensing purposes [22:35:46] Oh ok [22:36:10] Should name of wiki be on English or on language it is written on? Cuz it's not on English [22:48:25] miraheze has little to no regulation as long as you use common sense and communicate properly. You actually have control over near 100% of your wiki instead of having the follow the strict formatting and guidelines fandom has so they can support ads [22:51:21] Ye. We moving to Miraheze rn [22:51:35] Made already wiki creation request