[01:07:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blackcove__36769> hello
[01:37:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yeahmanimbigpoe> i submitted an edit to my request and im js wondering how long itll take for an approval
[01:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yeahmanimbigpoe> </3
[01:47:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yeahmanimbigpoe> uhh fuck i pressed the abandon button thinking it would explain what that means BEFORE letting me abandon it
[01:47:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @yeahmanimbigpoe Watch your language.
[01:47:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yeahmanimbigpoe> oops </3
[02:25:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to melclov> [1/4] I hope things go well! We moved to Miraheze in August 2025 (small fanon wiki, big community Discord server) because we got tired of Fandom and their policies, especially their controversial AI tactics. So, I made a poll on the wiki's server, the Bunny Burrow, on where should we move. The results were in with an overwhelming positive for Miraheze, and I m
[02:25:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to melclov> [2/4] ade a full XML dump of the wiki spanning from 2022 to when I made the dump and uploaded it to my Google Drive. It was too big to be uploaded onto Miraheze via its specialized import page, so I had to make a Phorge task on it. Images and everything was imported fully and had to fix up some modules, clear out the Fandom-specific CSS, Javascript, etc., and 
[02:25:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to melclov> [3/4] gave the wiki a full makeover. 
[02:26:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to melclov> [4/4] ...I yap too much.
[04:00:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <breakfastinger> hello I have a question!
[04:00:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <breakfastinger> I tried to interwiki link Wiktionary using [[wikt:]]
[04:00:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/>
[04:00:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <breakfastinger> it doesn't seem to work
[04:01:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <breakfastinger> but for Wikipedia [[w:]] does work
[04:01:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/>
[04:03:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <breakfastinger, replying to breakfastinger> I wrote [[wikt:love]] but instead it directed me to _my_ wiki with the page name of "Wikt:love"
[04:03:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/love>
[04:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nnalun, replying to wickerbasket2540> how'd you get the images over from fandom? i've been looking for image scrapers but couldn't find any.
[04:48:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster, replying to breakfastinger> That's weird.  It's a global interwiki prefix https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki.  Look at Special:Interwiki on your wiki and you should see it, I hope.
[05:20:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> is there a way to have gadgets minify when delivered? for example if we want to use a big gadget and keep it readable, but be minified when delivered to user.
[06:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to aliser> Why do you want it minifying?
[06:23:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser, replying to rhinosf1> faster page loads
[06:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> like if we gonna add like 20 gadgets totally 2 MB it's gonna make a difference if they are minifed <1MB
[06:25:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> One thing you can do is to limit gadget loading to pages with certain categories. I suspect that most of these gadgets are unnecessary on most pages.
[06:27:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> (it's under https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets#Options)
[06:27:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Optimising other ways is going to be the answer
[06:28:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Back in 2013, Lego said that gadgets should be minifed if using resource loader though
[06:28:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to posix_memalign> Actually https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template_gadgets#Create_a_new_template_gadget has a pretty good guide
[06:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> So if you've not marked it as compatible with resource loader, do that
[07:03:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to nnalun> I downloaded all of what I didn't have on my computer and compiled everything into a single separate ZIP file when the wiki was in the process of being migrated to Miraheze. I had a plan.
[07:07:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to nnalun> There's https://github.com/saveweb/wikiteam3, and we can also run it ourselves for you, provided the wiki is still accessible.
[07:13:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <night.glass> does anyone here have any species taxonomy templates
[07:13:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <night.glass> like the ones you've seen on wikipedia
[07:27:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <melclov, replying to posix_memalign> I tried downloading it, yet in cmd it says that wikiteam3dumpgenerator isn't command even tho i downloaded em
[07:35:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to melclov> Did you run `pip install wikiteam3 --upgrade`?
[09:12:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kebapman73> is there a way to use flag icon
[09:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [[dev:template:flag icon]]
[09:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/template:flag_icon>
[10:53:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aliser> ResourceLoader already minifies gadgets
[10:53:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <breakfastinger, replying to .labster> aight aight I'll check
[10:53:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser, replying to thewwrnerdguy> it's just simple whitespace and comments removal
[10:55:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aliser> what extra minification would you be expecting?
[10:56:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser, replying to thewwrnerdguy> smaller size = faster page loads
[10:59:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aliser> as I said, resourceloader already makes stuff smaller size
[10:59:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> #cvt ignore tryna find channel
[11:05:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser, replying to thewwrnerdguy> okay
[11:05:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> only those things though?
[11:06:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> cuz if I slap raw js it's gonna load it's pretty much the same
[11:06:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> or am I wrong?
[11:09:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @aliser I would focus on what you can control tbh
[11:09:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser, replying to rhinosf1> what does that mean 😭
[11:10:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to aliser> Focus on things like making sure gadgets are only called on pages they are used and you've wrote your code well
[11:10:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Improving resource loaders minification is a job for wmf performance
[11:10:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> I mean obviously. just trying to get a better understanding how they work under the hood so that we dont end up with 10 second page loads
[11:11:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to aliser> Are you getting 10s page loads?
[11:11:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> we did decide to not minify our code and only use minifed code from trusted sources like dev wiki gadgets
[11:11:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser, replying to rhinosf1> no
[11:11:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to aliser> Then don't worry about it yet
[11:11:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you start getting pages take multiple seconds to load, raise it then
[11:12:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I think you're over worrying about something that probably isn't a problem
[11:12:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aliser> okie dokie you got it boss :dune_stare:
[12:49:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Honestly
[12:50:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Whats the difference between <br>, <br/>, and <br />
[12:52:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> hi @pskyechology. could you make an image dump for [[fandom:monkeyraft]]? need it for a new wiki i'm making
[12:52:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://monkeyraft.fandom.com/wiki/>
[12:53:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to whostacking> i think its already archived at https://archive.org/details/wiki-monkeyraft.fandom.com-20260706
[12:54:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> Oh nice I didn't know you did it already
[12:54:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whostacking> thank you
[13:42:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> [1/2] They all output the same thing (a linebreak). The difference is that <br> is HTML and <br /> is XHTML (which has stricter syntax rules). Since <br> didn't function with XHTML but <br /> worked with both, during the XHTML -> HTML transition, <br /> was recommended. Nowadays, though, most modern browsers just support HTML outright, so the slash is pro
[13:42:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> [2/2] bably no longer necessary. Some old websites still use it though.
[13:48:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nnalun, replying to posix_memalign> I'll try it out. Prolly won't need to run it for a bit, though, but thanks.
[14:40:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Test
[14:40:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Huh
[14:40:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Its my own connection
[14:40:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> I thought the web is down again
[14:41:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> 😭❓
[14:42:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> NOOOO MY EDIT
[15:55:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to aliser> whitespace and comments will be a significant amount of the size of any js file, removing them will already give you significant enough size reduction