/div` [02:19:03] [3/4] which adds a red box on the top left corner. If the width and height are higher it'll cover the whole screen. [02:19:03] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536197153527955565/image.png?ex=6a7a8696&is=6a793516&hm=1fb2e3f38d80b71a3f9365c0057aa592e6e11b2dd5e555e6d290e377e34c111d& [02:19:26] Though I guess wikitext is also vulnerable to that so it's not a huge issue. [02:20:27] It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. Imo it's probably easier to re-purpose and existing commenting extension since message walls are basically a dedicated page for comments. [02:20:57] Conversely if you want to create a commenting extension then the existing Message Wall implementation can probably be reused. [02:21:37] Cosmos would look better if it use OOUI icons [02:21:59] I mean for nexawiki, i just replaced user talk with message walls & userprofilev2, and for commenting, idk if I'll add commenting anytime soon [02:22:09] NexaWiki barely has any traffic outside of crawlers 😅 [02:25:38] Starting a new wiki farm is hard. [02:26:35] I think Cosmos just needs some love. Moving to Codex and improving the default look goes a long way. A fancier default will make it more likely for others to stay. [02:27:27] I've thought about running one as an experiment (not a serious project) to see what it's like. Probably not something I will actually do but I get it would get old fast. At least here the work is distributed across many people [02:27:36] but OOUI icons 🥺 [02:27:50] I wanna learn to do it whenever I'm free [02:28:48] [1/3] Im kinda new to this stuff (Like this is my first time making major changes to a wiki) How do you change the navigation side bar and your site's icon? I'm a bit lost... [02:28:48] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536199609649598496/image.png?ex=6a7a88e0&is=6a793760&hm=dd05e54345a0f0bc100140c840ec49d37db38e65c4b9b45ae026f1132c948b10& [02:28:49] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536199609934815272/image.png?ex=6a7a88e0&is=6a793760&hm=a2387544bba22b7488c661bf58fcdd7f134d7ac0731ddba6c3ca0dc978a745d6& [02:29:12] If you can do some CSS/PHP work on the skin side it'll be a huge help to the ecosystem since we have plenty of people who can fix skins with Common.css, though these improvements would be better off in the skin itself. [02:29:55] sidebar can be changed at MediaWiki:Sidebar [02:30:24] Comparing [October 2025](https://communities.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_skins_by_popularity?oldid=11161) to [now](https://communities.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_skins_by_popularity?oldid=50826), most skins lost users (due to wiki deletions) and Citizen is the only one that gained lots of users. [02:30:25] icons in ManageWiki additional settings [02:30:36] Thanks! [02:30:56] note that if you have Minerva on mobile, sidebar changes won't be affected there [02:31:07] examples? [02:34:47] cosmos is much better if u customize it yourself (ex. under doctor wiki) [02:35:16] [1/3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T426907, which leads up to dark mode for timeless and is unfortunately stuck in the review phase for a while. [02:35:17] [2/3] Another example: misplaced text in Timeless' edit page. [02:35:17] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536201236569788456/image.png?ex=6a7a8a64&is=6a7938e4&hm=e630adb41e3424ed8c03f6171cc7c53872b364ac99243f4fed2fb52feca59fed& [02:35:36] [1/2] I like this layout as well [02:35:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536201321806438490/image.png?ex=6a7a8a78&is=6a7938f8&hm=3d8f585028ae3b05946a2cb0638b1292b74c948111eee6f826855a376a84673a& [02:41:09] Was talking 'bout Cosmos [02:44:18] For starters using CSS variables (preferably Codex) to color the skin. [02:45:02] [1/2] Misaligned bottom icons [02:45:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536203692242378823/image.png?ex=6a7a8cad&is=6a793b2d&hm=133d5d0d92d7da46252cb6b5caf66fb02859cdaf1c3b2fdf2b9758eac0535001& [02:47:50] There are a few more tasks on Phabricator https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/5017/ [02:47:54] No idea why that happens tbh [02:51:16] also for some reason, the skin is coded to make the icons swapped [02:53:45] I'll try to tinker with my limited html/css knowledge to look for a fix [05:45:48] Help, is it possible to remove wiki from the database because wiki is kb, please [05:51:36] what is kb and which database [05:53:26] does miraheze support url redirects? [05:53:53] e.g. https://nso.wiki.gg -> https://needystreameroverload.wiki.gg [05:55:36] would someone be able to request redirecting a url like l4d.miraheze.org to lead to left4dead.miraheze.org? [06:04:48] We can do it yes, you’d need a pretty good reason for us to add one though, outside of cases where a wiki is renamed [06:05:05] Alright, thank you! [06:07:12] Yeah, on wiki.gg, for example, at one point, I've requested for nso.wiki.gg to redirect to needystreameroverload.wiki.gg, since the game's name is long and its abbreviation is commonly used [06:08:37] or brc for bomb rush cyberfunk [06:09:25] I want to rename the database, that is, to remove wiki from arasakawiki [06:25:31] @zombie_daniil are you asking to delete your wiki? [06:26:25] I think they are asking to remove wiki suffix from the dbname? If that is the case though, no we don't do that. [06:26:42] No, I want to change the name of the database. [06:26:50] From what to what? [06:27:56] [1/2] If that makes it clearer, then that's [06:27:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536259790680891482/Screenshot_20260810-112740.jpg?ex=6a7ac0ec&is=6a796f6c&hm=9a3c2d8fab549f74b4abb67d24f56990921b15a99e8dc19f54bfc33b19beba48& [06:28:26] on https://arasaka.miraheze.org / can I switch from arasakawiki to arasaka? [06:28:36] "wiki" is an internal suffix every wiki on the platform has in the database name, we don't remove that. [06:29:08] Why not? Well, can I make an exception? [06:29:37] no, it is required by our system, as it is used as an identifier. [06:29:47] Without it it won't work [06:30:47] Okay. And how do you become a volunteer who checks applications for the creation of a wiki? [06:31:06] Will it work for something else but with the wiki prefix? [06:31:12] See [[Wiki Reviewers]] [06:31:14]

[06:31:37] No and it's exposed in very few places. You shouldn't even notice most of the time. [06:31:56] All of our wiki database names are subdomain + wiki [06:31:59] Every database name must end with wiki, that is not something we can change. [06:32:26] Even if a wiki were called examplewiki.miraheze.org, the database name is still going to be examplewikiwiki [06:32:44] It is not a user facing thing that even matters most of the time. [06:33:07] Okay, how do I become a volunteer and check the wiki creation requests? [06:33:30] I already linked that [06:35:26] Thanks [06:41:02] Is it fashionable to somehow hide users' choice of other skins? [06:43:31] It's entirely up to you. Some wikis will because of things like custom css that might break or because they want to be confident on how their wiki looks. [06:49:56] No, I mean, how do I remove the ability to even view other skins from ?useskin=...? This is very important to me because the wiki is made specifically for this skin and yes CSS can also break. [06:50:36] you'd have to uninstall it. For the global skin(s), no [06:50:54] If it's on Special:ManageWiki/extensions, disabling it there will prevent that [06:51:08] I need to remove all the skins except one [06:51:40] You don't need to. [06:51:54] I'm not doing this again with you. Follow the advice given please. [06:52:15] You can use the skip skins preference for global skins and uninstall the rest. [06:52:24] I don't need it, I have 1 style and other skins break CSS. [06:52:49] How to do that? [06:53:04] They are there for technical reasons. We have to keep at least one skin available on every single wiki in case something breaks. [06:53:32] If it's available in ManageWiki, you can disable it. If not, use $wgSkipSkins in the Settings page which will hide it as much as possible. [06:53:48] Well, I really need it, especially if it breaks down, you can bring it back, please [06:53:58] You don't seem to understand. I apologize but we can not help you do what we currently do not support. It has also come to my attention you have been warned about pestering our volunteers a couple of weeks ago, if this continues you will find yourself muted in this server. [06:54:31] The final answer is there is absolutely no way we can remove all other skins from your wiki. [06:54:37] Okay [08:22:10] if other skins break your intended css, there is no obligation to specifically support them [08:22:34] I force a global skin to completely bypass any local user css unless that is what I am there for specifically [09:00:29] [1/5] hmm a newline before and newline after should always create wikitext that looks like ``` [09:00:29] [2/5]

[09:00:30] [3/5] (your actual text) [09:00:30] [4/5] /div [09:00:30] [5/5] ```which shouldn't have those issues (assuming `(your actual text)` is trimmed properly) [09:01:17] honestly discussiontools does the job for me [09:42:17] yeah our wiki switched from using regular talk pages to discussiontools and it was a huge step up [09:42:42] but having never used message walls, i assume the switch from message walls -> discussiontools isn't as smooth [11:21:59] you can use js to redirect when you detect the `useskin` parameter [11:22:17] but anyhow `safemode=1` will bypass all your css and js [11:22:56] isn't `useskin=fallback` intended for that? [11:23:12] And how? [12:43:52] [1/2] today I will be KILLING scribunto [12:43:53] [2/2] -# I'll take another look [12:43:56] https://klipy.com/gifs/uncanny-missile [12:44:53] you can take a look at the output of Special:ExpandTemplates to try and debug scribunto-wikitext issues [13:21:02] Fallback only works if the fallback skin is installed [13:24:40] i mean, fallback is that at least one skin available [13:25:19] having more is like redundancy/backup? [14:25:03] :stare: good day my fellow mirahezians [14:49:53] [1/10] Still can't really figure it out, I did change it to not use regex though [14:49:53] [2/10] ```lua [14:49:53] [3/10] local function addText(data, cell) [14:49:54] [4/10] cell:newline() [14:49:54] [5/10] :wikitext(data) [14:49:54] [6/10] if data:sub(1, 1) == "*" then [14:49:55] [7/10] cell:newline() [14:49:55] [8/10] end [14:49:55] [9/10] end [14:49:56] [10/10] ``` [14:50:04] -# I don't care about other list types [14:52:21] what page did you get the issues on [14:52:35] literally just any infobox, though I mostly check it with https://scproleplay.miraheze.org/wiki/Chaos_Insurgency [14:55:08] [1/5] ah so it seems like doing ``` [14:55:08] [2/5]

[14:55:08] [3/5] [[Sector Sublevel]] [14:55:09] [4/5] /div``` [14:55:09] [5/5] causes the `[[Sector Sublevel]]` to get wrapped in `

` tags [14:56:17] so yeah in that case should only be necessary if the line starts with * or ; or : or # or ---- or = and I think that's it? [14:56:33] prob [14:57:15] bloody parser quirks [14:57:32] we love

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282149245310206013/1318122485077643304/RDT_20241118_2201016645429803181321652.gif [15:32:12] [1/2] Roughly 20th July everything drops off and I don't really know why. [15:32:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536396756890296330/image.png?ex=6a7b407b&is=6a79eefb&hm=22dc6a7e9299344b0cfdbdc5215cdf8521f97ae4217a1db6a96b09b240d3e0bd& [15:33:04] My best guess is we're getting flagged as duplicates but I'm no SEO expert. [15:36:20] how do i check for an empty cargo result? [15:36:36] it looks empty but #if: doesnt ignore it [16:03:35] [1/2] Hey yall. For DataMaps, is there a documentation or something that allows you to customize your overlays? The rectangle shape sucks a lot for my map and i'd like to change it [16:03:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536404655339479191/image.png?ex=6a7b47d6&is=6a79f656&hm=52f8f4b66fccb05f237e6ea3d112fb2a868acf5b3136549ecb254f21278341e0& [16:18:17] [1/2] Just checking on the Sims Wiki FANDOM and- PROJECTILE VOMITING [16:18:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536408354950352946/image.png?ex=6a7b4b48&is=6a79f9c8&hm=043af9b04b4adb1c036ed1fd1b6fa389a92822cd5183cd865b998533e311fb90& [16:28:51] [1/3] Okay I try not to rag on Fandom too much but this is bad on a variety of levels [16:28:51] [2/3] That is not how Sims look, and it's not how the Traits and Aspirations look either, and the plumbob is never blue or purple (unless you're modding) [16:28:52] [3/3] Also. If I wanted to create a Sim. I would simply open the game, The Sims [16:29:13] Your .wiki domain is probably too new & not getting trusted [16:35:40] One thing I do miss from fandom is being able to preview the infobox in the visual editor [16:38:51] We got a custom domain ages ago [16:42:28] [1/3] Is this a way to change this part of the editor preview? [16:42:28] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536414437773148201/image.png?ex=6a7b50f3&is=6a79ff73&hm=d3117b5ab7a531b22088124219c2eec1712f7cf88a1ed07a0ab3f55919ece044& [16:42:28] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536414438163484794/image.png?ex=6a7b50f3&is=6a79ff73&hm=7bca3e8b24004e0fad8250e5c49ee7891578b46d32eddccb04280c75f26e6d27& [16:42:58] What the fucking fuck [16:43:26] You know something is unbelievably shocking when I say "wtf" in full [16:43:30] And that rarely happens [16:45:35] [1/2] hello i am fandom please collect my slop [16:45:35] [2/2] for some reason they’re also opting to obliterate the page UX for genuinely no reason [16:45:50] Or like Minecraft, you're not gonna use a slop tool to envision building a slop structure [16:46:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536415365511250091/image.png?ex=6a7b51d0&is=6a7a0050&hm=594484f36610b9d16ca59bd331d0da4ec6d0826c2d461ba7dbfa1438594858c9& [16:46:17] You're gonna open Minecraft, press creative mode, and start from there [16:46:30] I am FANDOM, and I bring you... SLOP. [16:48:35] how long? [16:50:37] Okay so new reason to move out of Fandom: they will make AI tools with content fed from your wiki [16:59:54] and u have 0 say in it LOL [17:01:03] New funny/evil plan: secretly anonymously request for fandom to make an ai slop feature, then they make it, then you publicly shame them for it [17:01:26] https://klipy.com/gifs/trollface-25 [17:02:42] augh... and here I am trying to avoid fandom.com for much of anything. Sadly some documentation leads there [17:02:58] e.g., portable infobox [17:03:40] solution: no more PI [17:03:41] Use antifandom.com [17:03:56] You strip the bad from the good [17:04:14] No fandom bloat or support [17:04:52] @justleafy2003: that's nice. It also seems to remove some of the Trekkie styling for Memory Alpha, but it does make Fandom usable again. :) [17:05:13] Yeah. I am only just starting to work on some templates for my infoboxes. I see PI being pushed to me as somehow better for people viewing on mobile but I still am open to figuring out the right approach to the formatting I need for my infoboxes [17:05:46] (let me know if I should take this to #miraheze-tech since I know this channel is for general stuff) [17:05:48] We might even consider adding `antifandom.com` to the global interwiki table tbqh, as it's very good [17:07:02] One of the reasons I have my wiki on Miraheze is because I didnt wanna touch fandom with a 10 foot barge pole. My wiki *is* related to game stuff which isnt totally out of the wheelhouse for fandom wikis but.... fandom ensh*tified so hard [17:08:09] I think PI was only pushed by Fandom because they disabled all mobile styling [17:08:27] with css grids these days there shouldn't be any issues on mobile [17:11:30] I admit, Im rather unsure how I want to proceed with my infoboxes because I need two things that I think might be considered "complicated". [17:13:41] One problem is that not all Fandom wiki pages are being mirrored to breezewiki, last time I checked [17:13:58] Hope I'm wrong on that now [17:14:28] Nearly a year now [17:14:54] @justleafy2003: oh interesting [17:23:14] Like, how reasonable is it to have an infobox that has tabs, or even just gallery style tabbing? Will it break on mobile devices? [17:23:17] for reference, here is a wiki page on another site that has the kind of "gallery tabbing" that I am thinking of https://minecraft.wiki/w/Log (see the tabs on the top of the infobox that scroll through different pictures for the different types of logs, but doesnt make any changes to the data points which are displayed below those images) My miraheze wiki is for a game that has many similarities to the type of info that [17:23:17] a Minecraft wiki would have to display. I apologize for anyone who might be rolling their eyes right now)) [17:33:57] for the gallery tabbing on the log page, seems like they use a JS gadget [17:35:08] you can see a very short bit of it being a bunch of images stacked on each other before starting to display the tabs [17:44:22] Would there be a form of this JS Gadget that can be used on Miraheze wikis. If you have a tutorial/walkthrough for this kind of code, feel free to link. This may help me figure out the other form of infobox format that I need which is outright tabber type things (tabs at the top that, when clicked on, will change the info displayed in the infobox) . Definitely need to see how this plays into setup of wiki "template [17:44:22] parameters" [17:47:34] Isn't it something like this? https://wiki.avakot.org/Mendicant_Knight Where it has variants? We took some _heavy_ inspiration in the WF wiki for how they do theirs, but iirc we don't use a gadget for it. [17:53:32] @ahappyoreo Yeah. I think this definitely is what I picture in my head. I intend to create multiple infobox templates in Miraheze just to sort the different types of data points I need for different types of elements in my game. I do see myself needing a template for an infobox that has both the gallery tabs and tabs above that which allow you to switch between variants. [17:53:58] Let me see how this looks on my phone (in portrait mode) because thats something I fear might be terrible for anyone viewing my wiki on a mobile phone. [17:55:19] Looks ok on mobile [17:57:55] Yeah. It looks good on mine. (Galaxy S22) [18:07:07] Russian Russian wiki and I have a question, if I need to write the name of a user group somewhere and I have a Russian wiki, then should I write the name in Russian or English? [18:13:13] you can do whatever you want on your own wiki, although for i18n consistency you would usually name new groups in english first [18:16:04] if you're filing a request on meta then you would preferably write in english but translation rarely if ever fails to get the point across [18:25:34] No, how do I do the system user groups, that is, in Russian or English, well, the ones that will and won't work? [18:27:10] sorry, I don't understand the question [18:38:09] Set `|default=some text` [18:38:51] Thanks, i ended up using |no html with |default= [18:39:20] So if does nothing when it rerurns nothing [19:04:09] @ahappyoreo So what do you use for it if you dont use a gadget? Id love to see if I could find a tutorial that might lay the code out for me. Also, with the method that Miraheze Mediawiki has implored, how does it play with the "template parameter" mechanic? [20:00:53] <.kwinn> is there a way to prevent that broken file links sometimes pick some random picture from idk where that happens to have a fitting name? [20:03:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536465052280823942/image.png?ex=6a7b8016&is=6a7a2e96&hm=0ce1e22e15dbbd865d3a1c5023003e51f66fd335dccffed5dccedee6adcc50da& [20:03:52] $wgUseQuickInstantCommons and $wgMirahezeCommons [20:03:58] <.kwinn> a:PF_Salute: much appreciated [22:33:25] [1/3] [22:33:25] [2/3] Heya, i'm trying to make a tabber inside of a tabber, like the example here, but i have no clue what I'm doing wrong, could someone maybe help me? [22:33:26] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1536502760545984512/image.png?ex=6a7ba334&is=6a7a51b4&hm=fb4ed3930894153708f80fab446d822b9420efd50a181fc626617c61be06fab7& [22:33:29] RAIN WORLD WIKI [22:33:30]