[00:02:54] hi friends, does anyone know if theres a way to generate a 'bracket' style graphic on mediawiki? think an esports team bracket [00:16:04] How much sleep do you have to lose [00:17:45] several hours give or take [00:17:54] (also i saw ur dm, if its ok im gonna come back to that since im not sure about restricting it yet) [00:18:49] (all good mate) [00:21:30] From memory I know Wikipedia has a similar looking thing in it's family tree [00:21:34] ooo [00:21:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Tree_chart [00:22:06] But wikipedia templates are already hell and [00:22:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538342082174001192/image.png?ex=6a825435&is=6a8102b5&hm=0e7a071cc85b28980bed0b3124cc63baefde806596b1398838e4ff6ff186d0f0& [00:22:14] [1/2] what the hell [00:22:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538342083683680336/image.png?ex=6a825435&is=6a8102b5&hm=bc98884ec9e9d8699e449b2769abecd5e68efe04dd5d6215608d570a841a0d59& [00:22:17] screaming intensifies [00:23:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Family_trees has some other methods [00:23:33] family tree is prob the closest thing to compare [00:23:37] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tournament_bracket_templates hmm [00:24:04] why are these all so evil [00:24:38] https://river.me/blog/tournament-brackets/ this is also evil [00:24:47] this seems like the least evil maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Clade [00:25:26] that seems to be similar to what they use on the img here [00:25:36] now im curious how LoL wiki current uses [00:26:24] okay doesn't exist cook [00:26:33] these ones seem to be the closest and mos functional but these are scary/s [00:26:43] and theres versions for basically every amt of teams [00:27:03] Hmmm [00:27:22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Team_bracket [00:27:25] oh lol [00:27:32] haha hi [00:27:41] presumably if i just import this it should work? mightneed some styling but [00:30:12] if i cared at all for drinking id make a joke here to set aside a few drinks before starting [00:30:20] LOL i do not drink either [00:31:11] tastes yucky and dont like bubbles [00:32:54] I mean usually [[wikipedia]] imports are much bad but if there's no alternative then uh [00:32:55] [00:33:00] lock in and good luck solider [00:34:15] yeahhh i do know the usual rule [00:34:22] but i cannot find any other alternative, i dont think anyones been crazy enough to try and write this [00:34:32] someone was [00:34:40] that's wikimedians for ya [00:34:46] yeahh [00:34:57] it doesnt appear to have any other dependencies [00:35:00] based on the lua but im not sure [00:36:57] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Pedigree_tree [00:37:04] Ignore the name [00:37:07] no worries [00:37:09] hrm [00:37:35] the family trees arent quite what im looking for though im sure theyre easier to use [00:38:07] It can be used as an esports bracket tho [00:39:42] it can be, i just am not sure about the format [00:40:00] does anyone have an example of it used for an esports bracket? [00:53:54] [1/2] pretty basic so ig if you're looking for something more complicated it may not be for you [00:53:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538350055730454549/image.png?ex=6a825ba2&is=6a810a22&hm=3491655e30643193015b9f8e86e92a4ddef71e3e1029385b28d110a756fb1c5e& [01:19:44] [1/2] eep [01:19:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538356556465176697/image.png?ex=6a8261b0&is=6a811030&hm=1db28be4527745d8b655c42436d0cb234d5cd4bdc7f3b687d3d4ee5e069ce669& [01:20:12] could you copy the error code and paste it here? [01:20:19] thanks for the example, yeah i dont think its quite what i want. but thank you! [01:20:25] ofc, its `4e96dfdc74c1af2e7eced1d3` [01:21:07] i did just abort an attempt to import bc i had checked "import all revisions" by mistake [01:34:36] [1/2] > Error 1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction [01:34:37] [2/2] yeah could potentially be related to a cancelled import, there's an old task for a similar error during an import [01:34:51] ahh apologies for that [01:34:53] can i try again? [01:35:18] you can try but not sure if it will work [01:35:32] might require a manual fix in the backend [01:35:57] let me give it another go [01:36:32] ... [01:36:42] i think it worked but i think i also just imported 5 billion templates by accident [01:36:43] LOL [01:36:49] gg [01:37:07] Oops! [01:37:32] ok well [01:37:35] it seemed to have imported the template [01:37:39] [1/2] yay [01:37:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538361063639359588/image.png?ex=6a8265e2&is=6a811462&hm=96e91f57e2f8776f1eefccb4038fd18e9e92fecfd01d45a321507d03150322e6& [01:51:15] thats enwiki for ya [02:01:43] turns out i need a different wikipedia bracket template [02:02:17] what a hiccup! [02:02:27] theres so many [02:05:30] site slow or just me [02:07:42] yeah it is slow rn [02:08:21] Thanks 🫡 [02:12:08] congrats @pixldev [02:15:39] danke [02:15:46] wait omg CONGRATS PIXL [02:16:05] im full soup now [02:16:27] thank you ninjisyy [02:16:38] proud of you bud [02:20:47] appreciate it 💜 [02:22:09] servers are very slow now, jesus [02:22:18] why busy? [02:24:01] pixl are you proud of me i figured out wikipedia's Build bracket module [02:26:08] This is being looked into [02:27:25] awesome to hear [02:31:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538374590542119043/pablo-escobar.png?ex=6a82727c&is=6a8120fc&hm=55258b1f3e202dd6ebab220064b16abd9542066bc8d12c85541b5ff7c70003ae& [02:40:28] only thing left you can do is go for director next year [02:40:46] Eh, not really since that's not a community role [02:41:14] And not planning on it, another time commitment and it's to a role I don't really think I could contribute to in a way that beats what others have to offer [02:41:23] Depending on who runs [02:41:32] I would consider serving on the board to be a meaningfully different role and not just "ultra-steward" [02:41:51] I'd love to see some new faces on the BOD though with new things to bring to the table [02:42:07] Oh totally, they are very different roles that aren't comparable really [02:46:28] yall is the mirahaze site down? [02:47:00] It's not down but people are having connectivity issues [02:47:05] oh [02:47:09] okie [02:47:11] ya i am good [02:47:12] nvm [02:47:35] Yeah, I agree [02:47:45] I mean, only 2 stewards are directors anyway [02:47:57] There used to be more overlap [02:48:19] The decrease in overlap is a healthy sign, honestly [02:51:26] Also, three 🙂 [02:56:03] (Raidarr, Agent, NA) [02:56:47] After next May, who knows, could be down to one, maybe 2, or stay at 3 [02:57:29] Actually one of the things I'm most looking forward to doing as a Steward isn't running for Director but running the elections for Director lol [02:58:12] In past years our poor Kiju has been running the Elections Committee as a literal one man show (and the process is also very very messy and undocumented so a lot of it he had to figure out himself) [02:59:51] You probably misses this conversation a few nights ago on MCR but revamping/helping sort out and properly document/make documentation for the process is an item on my personal to do that I'm excited for [03:00:49] I semi started the process that night by making a dump page of all the things that need to be done in an election cycle (w/ relations to dates and policies) and issues we should fix first https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl/Community_Director_Policy_Nonsense [03:02:36] On my chemical romance? [03:02:43] yes [03:02:50] Epic [03:03:26] Poggers. [03:03:40] borderline considering turning [[my chemical romance]] into a redirect [03:03:45] [03:06:07] :pupCoffeeMH: [03:06:51] howdy jin [03:07:15] Heyo! [03:10:46] Just me or is Miraheze slow right now? [03:10:52] Not just you [03:12:09] just got an error msg when trying to submit but didnt get the code [03:12:29] my poor edit [03:12:39] hiii pixe [03:13:03] [1/2] here we go [03:13:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538385072665796688/image.png?ex=6a827c3f&is=6a812abf&hm=f244f19ab42cc29c2fb63dac88e77a710a4d3f43cd15162fe2e827dd76019c14& [03:13:06] :stare: i thought it was my internet [03:15:20] [1/5] Hi! 👋 [03:15:21] [2/5] Miraheze seems to be having some issues right now. Our wiki has become very slow and is frequently returning 502 Bad Gateway errors since around 04:00 BST. [03:15:21] [3/5] I also checked a few other Miraheze wikis and they seem to be affected too, so it doesn’t look specific to our wiki. [03:15:21] [4/5] Is there currently any known server-side issue or high load? I can provide a Cloudflare Ray ID / screenshot if needed. [03:15:22] [5/5] Thanks! [03:15:34] it is currently known [03:15:51] Yeah. I was experiencing it too [03:16:05] samesies, should hopefully be resolved soon [03:16:20] somethings on fire, tech is following the smoke [03:16:24] vaguely [03:16:25] best of luck tech team [03:16:57] Miraheze down rn? [03:17:58] That stinks [03:18:57] did we all just experience the same hiccup [03:19:28] Yeah lol [03:19:29] This is ironically the first time I've touched up majorly on one of the wikis I'm bureau in [03:19:31] 🥹 [03:19:32] in months [03:19:39] god bless miraheze tech team [03:19:44] Happens [03:20:06] life goes on [03:20:14] true [03:26:18] Kept getting that when editing a few articles. This happens due to someone accidentally spilling coffee on the server racks. /silly [03:29:05] LMAO [04:08:48] [1/2] if anyone wants an update on the whole Brackets thing, i ended up using Wikipedia's `Build bracket` module. this was the outcome: [04:08:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538399103187292170/image.png?ex=6a828950&is=6a8137d0&hm=6979d198777a0b6bdca56ce502b6cef5c89dee050cedead7bbc54e265a387a17& [04:08:58] basically 1:1 to what the tourney itself uses, took some finangling but it does work [04:09:16] gonna try and fight the css for it tomorrow LOL [04:21:13] godspeed [05:47:43] Omg yes [05:47:55] i need this [07:52:28] is there a way to kind of see a list of all pages in a wiki organised by last edit/creation date [08:17:44] Good luck, young grasshopper! [10:25:08] why my ip address is banned on miraheze, i am trying to recover my wiki account i made 1 month ago so we can move our wiki to miraheze [10:25:35] (i didnt do any edits prior today or anything like that, i just have my ip address banned for no reason) [10:26:51] cause i dont remember password [10:27:37] nvm i logged in [12:11:55] _do it_ [13:50:38] theres no way for me to edit the css of a wiki i dont own is there [13:58:15] There's no such thing as owning a wiki, but you do need to have [interface] admin rights to edit CSS for all users [13:58:19] all you need are the `editinterface` and `editsitecss` rights [13:58:29] You should still be able to edit your own user CSS [13:58:50] being the creator, same difference [13:59:34] man. asking cuz this wiki hasnt been touched in years and obviously none of the admins are around [14:01:53] wiki not touched for years and not closed? so it's an exemption from dormancy [14:40:26] so, what happened to external data? cant view the T15833 (Access Denied: Restricted Maniphest Task) [15:04:12] [1/4] so, what happened to external data? cant view the T15833 (Access Denied: Restricted Maniphest Task) [15:04:12] [2/4] and are there any alternatives that i can implement in the meantime (CSP restricts direct calls) [15:04:13] [3/4] this affects the page that has the most traffic on our wiki (more than our homepage lol) - weekly and monthly stats in screenshot [15:04:13] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538564039402197002/image.png?ex=6a8322ec&is=6a81d16c&hm=ded04cec8c9c6cc7eb4f6d375f4dbc87de83878f26e906b2d274f1dbe886a317& [15:31:09] anyways, how to invite new users to automatically become new member of a private wiki without needing a subject to open the destination wiki first for local account creation? [15:32:53] You can’t sadly [15:33:17] Only alternative is global staff manually adding them to the wiki but that’s not practical [15:34:53] do you have any wiki references to make a good-looking wiki mainpage? [15:36:28] Hm, I'm not really a design person, but it depends what you're looking for [15:36:44] What's your wiki topic? I can tell you know if I remember any wikis on similar subjects to compare [15:51:17] tech-design tutorial wiki? [15:51:29] i have also seen some anime wikies too [15:52:04] [1/2] maybe adding these buttons mechanic [15:52:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538576084830781510/image.png?ex=6a832e23&is=6a81dca3&hm=8c3706ae2bfa44df4aec5ef9dcf0839793b48531acdc2f45698afb618e833985& [16:15:40] [1/2] Yo, I have been trying to get the Minecraft Wiki Template into my own wiki but even though I imported the template it doesn't show even when refreshing the tab, skins also don't show and I'm not sure but I think extensions also wouldn't work if I added them. The wiki is pretty new so that is the first thing I did. If anyone knows how to fix that thank you. [16:15:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538582025542312136/image.png?ex=6a8333ac&is=6a81e22c&hm=dcb8079d3522a2df1a391d7152192f3d0efae4491a68b8835ff57fc900ce2113& [16:16:53] we need links man 😢 [16:17:02] we dont know ur wiki [16:35:25] https://deadsmods.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [16:36:30] and it doesn't let me send the mc wiki link [16:37:18] <_arawynn> you need to #verify to send links [16:37:36] https://mc.wiki [16:37:52] dont wanna know how much that redirect cost [16:59:35] congrats @pixldev on steward! [17:19:10] @pixldev Congrats on your promotion to wiki reviewer ❤️ [17:19:15] -# (congrats on steward :irl_festivity:) [17:25:45] I love your profile! [17:27:54] :Kek: [17:36:47] Ngl, for some reason, I just REALLY like these kinds of shorthand redirects [17:37:17] Something about them being incredibly easy to link to [17:37:54] Also, congrats on your promotion! You deserve it [17:42:18] E.g. here's an article about steve: https://mc.wiki/steve [17:43:21] Ofc, I typed this in, and I could simply just type the full url or copy it [17:44:11] But I like how easy it is to link some wikis [17:49:35] I didn’t vote since I feel uncomfortable voting in non-anonymous elections but also you deserved it [17:58:52] @pixldev Congrats [18:01:22] On Stewead [18:02:25] danke [18:02:31] appreciate it [18:03:17] Hi. [18:03:22] evil blonderayzer in [18:03:37] is there a way to use the Stub template without having it autocategorize the page as a Stub [18:03:38] Hiya [18:03:39] (cause its not) [18:03:45] HIYA! [18:03:48] karate chop [18:04:18] You can make a custom stub template that doesn’t, or put a switch parser that would only put the category if you input something else [18:04:41] hmm [18:04:59] are you asking for an existing wiki template [18:05:14] https://amoguses.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Stub [18:05:20] my little stub! [18:59:21] bump on this 🙂 [19:06:59] [1/2] I wonder if anyone would use a scribunto extension for VSCode if I made one (just adding documentation and whatnot) [19:07:00] [2/2] afaik there's somehow not one yet, at least not one that actually works [19:26:02] I currently use the wikitext extension for vscode but it is a little annoying having to constantly go back and forth between the code and the scribunto reference manual [19:26:46] tbh I don't really care about the actual documentation part that much, I just don't like having it mark every instance of mw as an undefined global [19:26:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282149245310206013/1318122485077643304/RDT_20241118_2201016645429803181321652.gif [19:27:05] sadly can't do much about `frame` though due to how it works [19:27:11] you can fix that with a setting [19:27:21] ah [19:27:56] [1/4] ```json [19:27:57] [2/4] "Lua.diagnostics.globals": [ [19:27:57] [3/4] "mw" [19:27:57] [4/4] ],``` [19:28:27] good to know [19:29:40] [1/2] what is the point of this [19:29:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538630844649054278/image.png?ex=6a836123&is=6a820fa3&hm=faee3960a557f059b3f07f8738f7e29fc556d0013127cf879f574c777ffb9be5& [19:33:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538631806818197514/image.jpg?ex=6a836209&is=6a821089&hm=94d620ef4b06d32be92165b48c5ab124be47bd38f1e6abd9d77ba37b15507495& [19:33:39] @Discord Moderators ^ [19:34:34] dude I tabbed out for like 2 seconds and someone appeared then died immediately [19:35:35] The snipers here to tend to be quick /silly [19:45:00] to increment the expensive parser function count [19:45:39] if you have a module that takes a while to do stuff and you want to make sure nobody's abusing it, you can call that function to limit the amount of times the module can be used [19:45:58] fair [21:02:55] @thewwrnerdguy . You answered my question the other day with : I think the issue is the gsub returning two values .... Would you know of how I might figure out which line of my Template is causing gsub to do that? (I know this is a Lua error more than it is a Mediawiki error) . Here is that template page again : https://voxelibre.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_item [21:06:51] hoi!!! :] [21:15:21] Hewwo! [21:20:17] How are you? :] [21:41:55] Doing alright! Working on supper rn [21:42:06] Breaded chicken and tater tots [21:57:27] [1/2] well i think there's already one? (i installed it long ago and it's been there for me) [21:57:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538668036217774171/image.png?ex=6a8383c6&is=6a823246&hm=d755df96a9e087c7d8234f22dd7cea27920cc6ae587426d37259732b80910a44& [22:02:21] What templates exist for lauage family trees? [22:05:55] this is just autocompleting [22:15:19] i think actual full support would really use the wiki api and can require other modules? [22:15:31] that would be a great extension [22:28:32] [1/2] oh wow it's extending past the page [22:28:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538675859463082024/Screenshot_20260816-182210_Chrome2.jpg?ex=6a838b10&is=6a823990&hm=0118d45cd6cfa9cac02b958f212a1fd067e772e72590fd6d514ab33e001f6fc9& [22:34:51] [1/2] is there a way to make the contents/infobox collapsed by default [22:34:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538677447707463680/image.png?ex=6a838c8a&is=6a823b0a&hm=e719062968ea57e0cdfd7d724be2ad21fdd1272b8f6d57118c0fd28fdfd63b58& [22:35:59] You might find it better to have the TOC Limit template on the page. [22:36:10] whats that? [22:36:16] yeah that's what tables do. I'd recommend looking into css flexbox for something like this [22:38:21] https://tennistome.miraheze.org/wiki/2025_in_tennis - so it'll restrict the subheadings you'd prefer not to be shown. [22:38:30] Just like I have on that page. [22:38:59] ohhhh [22:39:02] is it built in [22:40:24] [1/2] oh it is [22:40:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538678845836632074/image.png?ex=6a838dd8&is=6a823c58&hm=64e436f19f5b666c4a514ab9b015d186f3bdd4ee75a519ad0fea751fe7cf6efd& [22:40:35] how do i get rid of the red text though 😭 [22:40:44] Is there a place where I can find a flexbox? Or is it something already included in the editor? [22:41:13] just `
.../div` in the source editor [22:41:24] Alright! Thank you [22:42:13] [1/2] It might be because the templates at TOC Limit and not TOC limit. [22:42:13] [2/2] But there should be a .css page as well that you need. [22:42:59] the limit captilization doesnt seem to matter [22:43:05] i do need the css though [22:43:09] 💥 [22:51:19] [1/4] Is there anything I need to fix? [22:51:20] [2/4] I put ``
/div`` around the table, however it breaks. [22:51:20] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538681592644632676/Screenshot_20260816-184842_Chrome2.jpg?ex=6a839067&is=6a823ee7&hm=57f6ef326641b1e2f5e5ebde500d118f0c589b268e7306d8dd2f163c387f7c07& [22:51:20] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1538681593265397840/Screenshot_20260816-184911_Chrome2.jpg?ex=6a839067&is=6a823ee7&hm=d8c1e7adaf6477972d64cb2cdb6ebd8b38273d9b4e85abcc5191cfb5f8124310& [22:58:13] Didn't put > at the end of your
[22:59:01] And accidentally removed the {| to start the table [23:12:17] ohh [23:22:16] if you want it to wrap you need to make each of the things divs, else the table will just continue to make it overflow [23:47:20] :pupCoffeeMH: