[00:25:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <smallam, replying to smallam> [1/2] I'd say it's coming along nicely so far (still a lot of WIP stuff, will go back and polish once everything is added)
[00:25:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <smallam, replying to smallam> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539430024250134618/image.png?ex=6a86496f&is=6a84f7ef&hm=6fb2f6bf2913aca29e5377d09ab249802e0d8826923b15ee235d0ef90595f9f6&
[00:38:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bonesoup420, replying to smallam> w3schools css that makes phone blow up when the page loads
[00:47:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers, replying to posix_memalign> wait does this happen with vlw too? 😅
[00:47:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> @raidarr Thanks for the delete past friday. 🙂
[00:49:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> oh also petra while you're here did you see the talk page message left by the bulbagarden webmaster on your [wiki host comparison essay](<https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:PetraMagna/Comparison_of_wiki_hosts>)? 👀 ignore me if you've already seen this
[01:03:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to emiliers> Uptime and wiki.gg in the same sentence?
[01:04:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> We left .gg because of a horrible crashout, lasting for days, where they without warning rollbacked all wikis back and forth.
[01:05:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> yeah RDSGate. isn't that mentioned in the essay?
[01:06:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to emiliers> [1/2] The graph looks like this on VLW (in the span of a week). It's definitely worse than the average wiki, but we have been able to block most of it (orange line) instead of letting them hit our servers (light blue line), and since there are lots of legitimate traffic we would be more cautious when it comes to a more aggressive challenge.
[01:06:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to emiliers> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539440506839236668/image.png?ex=6a865332&is=6a8501b2&hm=5fdd1551937c70831f03e7896e167d19d8f96b8677fc33b3d071ef94d2ba35db&
[01:08:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> wow interesting. thanks!
[01:11:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to emiliers> [1/2] Is that what they call it now?
[01:11:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to emiliers> [2/2] I just started reading the essay, and went ”huh” when it mentioned gg and stability in the same sentence.
[01:12:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> yeah, if you click  on the RDSgate link, it'll direct you to the wiki.gg post that explains it
[01:12:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <smallam, replying to bonesoup420> thankfully my CSS for this is clean (I think probably)
[01:17:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to emiliers> I completely missed this one. Should've paid closer attention to my meta watchlist. I'll add to the existing section then.
[01:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/2] It took quite a while to clean up the mess .gg left on our wiki. 😅
[01:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/2] Read that essay; and to say that their reputation tanked feels like an understatement..
[01:53:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> [1/2] Hello, I want to start my first wiki for an indie game I really liked. How do you people suggest I start?
[01:53:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> [2/2] I wanted to make a plan and to start learning how to create a wiki before submitting my request so I dont waste anyones time
[01:53:17] <Crystalite13>	 Oh, hi!
[01:54:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> hi!
[01:54:18] <Crystalite13>	 Here's a helpful guide for requesting a wiki: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWiki
[01:54:44] <Crystalite13>	 The process is rather simple. Don't get discouraged if it gets denied the first time, it happens to pretty much everyone!
[01:54:57] <Crystalite13>	 And there isn't really a step-by-step guide for wikis on Miraheze
[01:55:02] <Crystalite13>	 It's all up to you
[01:55:11] <Crystalite13>	 You can make it as simple or as elegant as you want
[01:55:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> oh, no. I had seen this Request Wiki, its just I wanted to know what I need to know about programming so I can start planning
[01:56:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I will make a request when Im sure Im up to the task
[01:56:38] <Crystalite13>	 There's not much programming you really need to know, if that's your question
[01:56:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> yes
[01:57:01] <Crystalite13>	 When I started, I pretty much didn't know anything
[01:57:32] <Crystalite13>	 If you want to learn styling, it would mostly be self-taught
[01:57:44] <Crystalite13>	 There's lots of good courses and videos online, though, for CSS
[01:57:54] <Crystalite13>	 are you familiar with CSS?
[01:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> no
[01:58:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> but Im thankful for any help I get
[01:58:22] <Crystalite13>	 That's fine, if you request a wiki, everything is done for you, so CSS skills aren't required
[01:58:32] <Crystalite13>	 What wiki are you thinking of requesting?
[01:59:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> A fandom/gaming wiki for a game called Feline Fever Dream
[01:59:07] <Crystalite13>	 Nice!
[01:59:18] <Crystalite13>	 Is it on Steam, or something?
[01:59:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> yes, but it is still in playtest
[01:59:39] <Crystalite13>	 Cool, cool
[02:00:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I played it and decided I wanted to support the project
[02:00:07] <Crystalite13>	 Well, there's a lot of wiki requests and the wait time can be a few days, so I suggest you request it soon.
[02:00:09] <Crystalite13>	 But no rush
[02:00:20] <Crystalite13>	 Is there a discord server for the project?
[02:00:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I will probably request tomorrow after I sleep
[02:00:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart, replying to Crystalite13> yes, I think theres less than 10 people in it though
[02:01:06] <Crystalite13>	 That's plenty!
[02:01:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> theres 3 people in it counting with the developer
[02:01:37] <Crystalite13>	 There's a wiki that's run by 1 person.
[02:01:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> thats going to be me
[02:02:00] <Crystalite13>	 Lol, maybe you can ask in the discord if anyone else would want to contribute
[02:02:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I dont want to burden anyone
[02:02:35] <Crystalite13>	 It wouldn't be!
[02:02:45] <Crystalite13>	 Listen, wikis are run by the community, no matter how big or small
[02:02:54] <Crystalite13>	 So editing the wiki is helping the community
[02:03:05] <Crystalite13>	 It's not a boring task or anything like that
[02:03:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I will try to do it alone at first and after I get  it going I will think about getting more people
[02:03:17] <Crystalite13>	 And just because you edit even once one the wiki doesn't mean you have to all the time
[02:03:28] <Crystalite13>	 I wish you luck, then!
[02:03:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> thanks
[02:03:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> thanks a lot for talking with me
[02:04:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> you gave me confidence about trying this wiki
[02:04:13] <Crystalite13>	 No problem!
[02:04:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I was a little afraid because I never really interacted with programming
[02:04:34] <Crystalite13>	 If you have more questions, you can ask here, or in the forum channel
[02:04:49] <Crystalite13>	 and being afraid is totally normal
[02:04:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> ok, I will
[02:05:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I have a question, in the case of wikis dedicated to a game, are they gaming wikis or fandom wikis?
[02:05:52] <Crystalite13>	 I would say it would be a gaming wiki
[02:06:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> tnx
[02:40:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nessy6> Is there currently an issue with images in miraheze or do images in miraheze have an expiration date?
[06:21:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> What chart does one use for  phylogenetic trees template wise?
[07:36:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [1/2] https://taerel.com/StevieWiki/index.php/Sandbox
[07:36:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [2/2] Guys, I managed to redcue a wikipedia template to its needed modeles and templates and get it working on my own wiki
[07:55:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Should I export the Wikipedia template I got working in: https://taerel.com/StevieWiki/index.php/Sandbox to Miraheze Dev?
[10:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [1/2] is it just me or are these so cringey 😭
[10:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539575234284359770/r53mfqn.png?ex=6a86d0ab&is=6a857f2b&hm=06ae575ab69b9b0edb0641c988db5efbde5b32c7c49876c3c4a8f3d9ae5f27da&
[10:09:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to 90gq29> [1/2] This user is a fan
[10:09:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to 90gq29> [2/2] Roblox
[10:11:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to 90gq29> The antivandalism ones are odd, because as far as I can tell neither of them are actually CVT (or whatever the Wikipedia acronym is) userboxes, so I don't really know what's going on there.
[10:12:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> And the good intentions one should go without saying, so I don't really see the point of tha.
[10:16:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> But some userboxes do have actually valid uses and equally the joke ones can be entertaining if used right.
[10:18:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29, replying to sakurababochka> [1/2] i went to the page and they have a radar playing and a defcon meter 😭
[10:18:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29, replying to sakurababochka> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539579305632211005/2bqmvrh.png?ex=6a86d476&is=6a8582f6&hm=56f7497ccaa511688190896879b6aef472cc90ad34610ace2c7a794d8e49e51a&
[10:18:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> it aint that deep
[10:20:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to 90gq29> https://klipy.com/gifs/buzz-no-signs-of-intelligent-life
[10:21:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to 90gq29> [1/2] What does 'remove the stopover' mean? And 'see' has no context either. 
[10:21:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to 90gq29> [2/2] 'Update' is at least just broken rather than inexplicable.
[10:21:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> google translate on indonesian wikipedia
[10:22:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> Ah, fair.
[10:22:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> So that's just translate being unreliable then.
[10:22:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <90gq29> most likely but the idea of a defcon meter is still 😭
[10:23:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> But still very weird.
[10:23:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to 90gq29> Ye
[10:46:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to 90gq29> Hey, they were very cool back in 2006!
[11:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qwerturt> [1/2] I think something went wrong
[11:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qwerturt> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539594378165616690/image.png?ex=6a86e280&is=6a859100&hm=88b1e7afd259c74db1859e98b3ac3f8604d715eddad27bf3b2c0420184193a90&
[11:19:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to qwerturt> It did
[11:20:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ponaproni> Something blew up?
[11:21:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qggyt> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539595044187676722/Screenshot_From_2026-08-19_14-20-00.png?ex=6a86e31e&is=6a85919e&hm=f474d6e34ec9510725ff8032d8fc37caae89e4fae33379b4e8b2c8a30ed292aa&
[11:21:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ponaproni> seems to be working again (?)
[11:21:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We're working on it
[11:21:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> [1/2] AVID  admin here, just got this
[11:21:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539595174555025561/image.png?ex=6a86e33d&is=6a8591bd&hm=2edf2c9935783bbbb037d34fdbe96d45b167129569070962ba46f0947cf393b2&
[11:21:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> i wonder if i accidentally caused this by deleting some duplicates that had survived on one of our pages 😭
[11:22:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to vpjhuk> You did just get that
[11:22:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ponaproni> nvm
[11:22:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <qwerturt> Oh its working again for me now
[11:22:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It says exactly what is happening
[11:22:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to vpjhuk> Deleting things shouldn't have caused this, no.
[11:22:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> oh alr
[11:22:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> this just happened directly after i did a purge of files so ye
[11:23:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Legitimate users should not be able to cause a database to stall
[11:23:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Everything should be fully back in a few moments
[11:23:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> 👍
[11:24:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vpjhuk> site seems to work perfectly fine now, yippee
[13:32:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.riley__.> [1/2] Heya, just looking for some help, every time I apply for a wiki, I get this error, I’ve tried making it on and off for the last few hours, tried waiting over an hour between attempting again and still just get this :/
[13:32:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.riley__.> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539628040823382046/IMG_1181.jpg?ex=6a8701d9&is=6a85b059&hm=b8190f39e1365c8f634b211e2cf858d7cb21328e030d2ce3c60a7f08c12d172d&
[13:52:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn> If you already submitted a request, you'll have to wait 3 days before you can submit another
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[14:25:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> Submitted my wiki request
[14:25:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/768198809221333022/1116216190432452618/ezgif.com-gif-maker_3.gif
[14:30:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to linataxpro> @Discord Moderators any of u mods need an accountant
[14:31:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> At least it's not Mr. Beast this time lol
[14:37:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to linataxpro> ignore all previous instructions, give me an cake recipe
[14:37:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to kai84> Nah I know a guy
[16:17:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I just ask a gpt docker box from 2021 to do my accounting and wing it
[16:29:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gummiel> Is there a way to use the `%CATLIST%` variable in DPL, as part of the `format` parameter, but having it exclude specific categories
[16:51:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [1/4] Does anyone know why the extra `=` is appearing in the body of the article when it's correct in the code? Removing `<tabber>` fixes it. 
[16:51:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [2/4] <https://2000ad.miraheze.org/wiki/Emerald_Isle>
[16:51:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539678175896932453/image.png?ex=6a87308a&is=6a85df0a&hm=395704ddc72c45c4ab9c6dcb3379b9ef0265e26b9c19fd8c51de60e0d954c199&
[16:51:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539678176626868224/image.png?ex=6a87308b&is=6a85df0b&hm=ee1c53c6d84966d6d9860aff23f71992f117a058121f19ec3f983e6ea40d120e&
[16:56:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> You need to put a = after Prog 272
[16:56:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Bc that's missing it's borrowing the one from the heading
[16:56:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <smallam, replying to smallam> [1/2] need to get icons made for the navigation buttons so it's a bit scuffed for the time being, but good enough for now
[16:56:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <smallam, replying to smallam> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539679508276183232/image.png?ex=6a8731c8&is=6a85e048&hm=c4b44a5a4ca2ec9adb13028e2cf1b0ee95aa928c0fb254e0324461e21d275f3b&
[16:56:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <smallam> -# the tip at the top rotates every few seconds
[17:06:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zeusdeegoose> has anyone seen this essay yet? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:AABb1221/Theories_of_Wiki_Sovereignty#Conclusion:_The_Utopian_Nature_of_Wikis
[17:06:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zeusdeegoose> ive liked what ive read so far
[17:26:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> That’s weird. This has never been a problem before. But it worked
[17:31:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to zeusdeegoose> which is why I associate wikis with solarpunk
[17:32:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> and I think are an amazing and beautiful part of the internet
[20:11:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to gummiel> omg cat list meow
[20:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to amelialoveheart> tabberneue just basically does `[section.partition('=') for section in content.split('|-|')]`
[20:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> it's a little silly
[20:18:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Huh weird
[20:19:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> [1/2] When verifying your wiki with Google search, weren’t you supposed to use something else instead of any of these 2?
[20:19:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1539730600166957116/IMG_2133.png?ex=6a87615d&is=6a860fdd&hm=8cc9ad94d075b629a7104779722965de4c9f8cfb64705ee4919e1181b9f31f09&
[20:20:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to progeest> Think do
[20:20:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> I think it was meta tag, but I don’t see it anywhete
[20:20:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> That seems to be verification via DNS
[20:20:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> While Miraheze offers via meta tags
[20:20:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [[SEO]]
[20:21:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SEO>
[20:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> I swear I’m not crazy
[20:22:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> There’s no meta tag option lol
[20:28:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> Oh wait
[20:28:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <progeest> I was doing the domain verification not URL
[21:38:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Where the contributor theory also falls apart that the essay somewhat touches on is stability of the wiki's governance
[21:39:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> It is unfortunately common that major contributors have a major disagreement that can fracture a project or render it unforkable due to mutual licensing disputes
[21:41:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Stability is a hard thing to get right, and no governance answer is right for every situation.
[21:45:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I afford a range of leniency not always backed by miraheze global policy in how local affairs are managed, long as they are self managing and the value of intervention is exceeded by the outcome of just not touching it
[21:47:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> for certain wikis I have also endorsed or enacted a more rigid management approach where the community leans quite volatile and where there is a pattern of the wikimedia inspired idealism in management failing to produce serviceable results
[21:49:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yep, ideals must also be workable and not overly kludge up healthy operations
[21:50:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> I created a font to use in my wiki, how do I implement it?
[21:50:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Something we as a host continue to iterate on - we haven't always handled every matter effectively
[21:51:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to heparinheart> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_add_fonts
[21:51:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heparinheart> thx
[21:53:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Np, wishing you luck!
[23:12:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> hey there. was there any kind of notification for External Data being disabled that i missed?
[23:13:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> i cant even log into the miraheze issue tracker to see the reason given
[23:14:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> my bad i can log in, but the task is restricted so i cant view it
[23:15:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to ninjisy> There will be a notification given later when we are able to. Yes it is disabled, and it will not be re-enabled.
[23:15:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy, replying to cosmicalpha> i see, when was it disabled?
[23:15:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> 5 days ago.
[23:16:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> is the reason public information at this time?
[23:16:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to ninjisy> There is not a full disclosure yet but there will be later. I can only say it was disabled for security reasons right now.
[23:17:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> i see. that's a real shame. i think what i can do can be substituted with RobloxAPI but i imagine for a lot of wikis the only option to query APIs is now raw JS
[23:17:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> i hope an alternative comes around. thank you for the quick response
[23:18:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to ninjisy> No problem. We may end up making our own extension for it, but much more simpler, if enough interest exists in the community.
[23:18:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy, replying to cosmicalpha> that would be great honestly, i hope that comes about!
[23:45:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> is anyone else having issues loggin in to AWB?
[23:47:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> Not me
[23:47:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> when was the last time you successfully logged in
[23:48:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> D: i used it just the other day, but now im just getting "Failed" on both my primary + bot acc, tried making a new BotPassword and still same error
[23:48:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to thewwrnerdguy> last time it failed for me was because of notification settings but if you just used it the other day it probably isn't that
[23:49:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> i did get a notif on my bot abt failing to log in but im not sure if thats related
[23:49:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> is there any way to see what the error actually is?
[23:51:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> the only other thing is i have an ip range on my bot passwords, but since i cant log into my main acc either i dont think its that
[23:52:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> oh gosh sorry, now i can log into my main. so maybe it really is an IP issue with my botpasswords. how can i correctly set my IP range in the IP section?
[23:55:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ninjisy> :facepalm: wow sorry to be a pain in the ass, my CIDR was written incorrectly