[00:11:07] Sighs really hard [00:29:47] How to put tables onto the right side of the page instead of just on the left🤔? [00:34:12] CSS [00:39:49] Dude this website is a pain in the ass on mobile [00:43:28] blame mediawiki for that one [00:43:33] few skins that are any good [00:43:41] assuming its not something lke captcha which is more connection [01:24:10] Does anyone know how I can convert every page on my wiki to share a layout? [02:56:03] https://kaijumatic.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page here’s my wiki. Feel free to edit the articles into having templates that are more convenient to edit with [04:17:44] I am in the process of requesting a wiki, however the subdomain is currently taken. So I checked the wiki that already took the name and it's been closed. I could just change the subdomain of my wiki, but I wanted to know if it would be possible to request the subdomain be freed for me to take before I settle on a different domain instead? [04:18:19] I actually do want to ask whoever created the wiki first for permission, but I'm not sure how to find out who created it [04:37:29] possible [04:38:07] if the previous wiki was closed, you don't need to ask the old creator. [04:57:39] unrelated question [04:58:01] what did the enthroned smp staff do to you /genq [05:08:43] [1/9] I observed that the staff would make nsfw jokes, even though the server was 13+ [05:08:44] [2/9] So I opened a ticket telling them that they shouldn't be doing that, the rules state "no nsfw" and that includes jokes, a rule they themselves put in place. Just because they're authority does not mean they're above the law. [05:08:44] [3/9] I told them that the prevalence of nsfw jokes will desensitize minors to rule 34 media (especially cuz they kept sending literal rule 34 media as jokes) which predators will obviously take advantage of. [05:08:44] [4/9] I even gave them an example of how: An adult will DM a minor, and it will start out normal. Eventually, they would ask the minor to send feet pics (as an example) "it's harmless! just like the jokes we make in enthroned!!" [05:08:45] [5/9] This example is literally just something that happened to me when I was a minor (and the minors around me), so I know that tactic [05:08:45] [6/9] Eventually, some controversy happened about a chat mod in the Discord opening a ticket because she was concerned that the admins don't really seem to care much about the server. Because they were all "busy with other priorities" so obviously they were put into question, like "if you're all so busy, then why did you start this server in the first place? B [05:08:45] [7/9] ecause you're too preoccupied, look, everything is chaos" [05:08:46] [8/9] Then they randomly dragged my name into it??? Saying I was "influencing her negatively" and their reasoning for this is because of my previous ticket where I was "being too woke" [05:08:46] [9/9] HUH?!?! [05:08:50] [1/3] So then the literal owner of the server said that I don't actually care about the wellbeing of the community, that all I said was just an excuse for me to insult them, and that I was FRIENDS WITH PEDOPHILES???? [05:08:50] [2/3] The reasoning? The exact thing I described would happen if they kept up their behaviour? Happened. Four times. One of them even coming from a staff member. [05:08:50] [3/3] So their logic was that if it happened exactly as I said it would happen, it's obviously not because I experienced it happen and could recognize the pattern, but because I PURPOSELY INVITED THEM TO THE SERVER TO PROVE A POINT.... WHAT?!?!?! [05:08:55] And then they doxxed me. [05:09:36] [1/4] Two routes to go: [05:09:37] [2/4] * https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue and search for database name = subdomainwiki, OR [05:09:37] [3/4] * Example: bread.miraheze.org would be breadwiki [05:09:37] [4/4] * go to Special:ListAdmins on the wiki in question to see currently serving admins/crats [05:09:54] ohhhh thank you so much for the help!! ^^ [05:11:13] If they haven't been active in 60+ days and it's a public wiki, you can probably request to adopt the wiki + gain crat/admin on [[SR/RW]], which is even more likely to be granted if it's not particularly developed [05:11:14]

[05:11:50] Otherwise, requesting a different domain is probably the way to go for now if there isn't a clear path to just taking it over. [05:12:10] I think I'll probably just get a different domain lol [05:12:33] [1/3] More details on the process of taking over an abandoned project can be found here: [05:12:33] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wiki_adoption [05:12:34] [3/3] But yeah, if you want to skip the hassle/cleanup, other domain is easiest [05:13:10] mhm, thank you so much for the answer though!! Really appreciate it 😄 [05:13:22] Absolutely, have yourself a good evening, and wishing you success. [05:13:59] Thank you! Have a good rest of your day as well!!!!! [05:18:05] Oh jeez. [05:18:17] Apparently keeping kids safe is WOKE??? [05:18:35] RIGHT???? 😭😂 [05:21:07] guys im so woke for saying you shouldnt be sending literal rule34 as "jokes" in a 13+ server oh noooooo [05:22:03] "people are dying and you're pressed about feet" wtf do u want me to do about hypothetical dying people? im talking about this server you're moderating, stay on topic 😭😭😭😭💀💀 [05:34:50] 🤦 yeah, after a certain amount of clownery one has to eventually decide it's no longer a rodeo to be a part of if the clowns are running the show. [05:36:15] Sounds like an all-around cruddy situation, glad you have removed yourself from it. [07:01:31] ngl these mfs and the maga mfs feels like they both got one thing in common [07:02:24] they both don't give a shit about outlawing pd0philia [09:09:29] is visual edit disappeared for everybody else to? i think i have visual bug that i dont have visual edit on every wiki page, others checked our wiki and they said we dont have any issue, nor they had [09:09:38] only i have this issue and i dont know how to fix it [09:09:58] i checked my preferences and i had visual editor enabled [09:10:07] same thing in manage a wiki special [10:19:45] [1/2] The Fandom Chinese Community Center team created a Chinese Discord server for Miraheze.🤣 [10:19:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540666783537565736/image.png?ex=6a8ac941&is=6a8977c1&hm=0474fed95b013d9fc7d404ebac2e232a83d7ebad7821e1ce2e6a47a75563a49c& [10:29:04] Oh I recognize Winston Sung and 铁桶. I know that a similar discord exists for Japanese users too. [10:35:31] I can never guess bro's network of connections 😭 [10:37:15] Both of them are pretty active globally. There are many Chinese wiki editors but only a handful who is active in the global Miraheze space (and in the MediaWiki space in general). Once you're here for a while you'll also see the same names over and over again. [10:47:08] mhm [12:38:47] love how the traditional/simplified channel names actually seem to be localized and aren't just straight conversions of each other. fun [13:53:44] Is there an invite link? I"m interested XD [14:02:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540722920387645481/2026-08-22_220001.png?ex=6a8afd89&is=6a89ac09&hm=761ce5e2044f6e172290cbb12917bed9d3efc5da489cdfda7b513c5667d8c311& [14:03:47] Oh right. Post it in #server-invites [15:17:07] :stare: [15:19:15] Should I put the wikipedia template I cut down to what was needed onto dev wiki? [15:58:19] Is it possible configure sanitized css restrictions for templatestyles extension pages to remove some blacklisted things? As an example I want to allow the usage of `-webkit-background-clip` style in it [16:01:06] [1/2] no color-mix and -webkit-background-clip are very dangerous and you're not allowed to use them, sorry [16:01:06] [2/2] -# css sanitizer really needs to be updated [16:10:20] why? [16:14:19] because css sanitizer said so [16:15:34] isn't there a background-clip already [16:15:43] that doesn't use w*bkit [16:16:06] css sanitizer doesn't like that one either [16:25:31] what's the difference with the webkit version of bg clip [17:02:52] How do y'all update an image [17:29:06] How do I get my wiki to display a clock? [17:33:23] A countdown clock or like the current time? [17:34:54] Current time [17:36:15] [1/2] Just a simple one like in the top right of Wikipedia [17:36:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540776630794977331/image.png?ex=6a8b2f8f&is=6a89de0f&hm=4818eb889ca19608d38e1d7536413131a2c08ffd6df7a9c3c44195c2b1adec79& [17:39:28] If you want that exactly, the code and install instructions are here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js [17:44:00] Update when css4 drops [17:44:19] css40* [17:44:25] https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HQHi5PjWEAARd3M.webp [17:45:26] Is there a chance of it being updated during 2027 [17:46:19] tbh the tech part of adding support for new classes prob isn't very much at all [17:46:34] im just not sure how much yapping has to be done for it [17:46:42] who maintains sanatizer, wmf? [17:47:01] oh its a php library not an extension [17:47:19] wait [17:47:57] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Css-sanitizer yeah im not comprehending this today [17:48:04] :sobbing: [17:48:24] [1/2] Another attempt at making a 70s styled Miraheze logo [17:48:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540779687943471144/image.png?ex=6a8b3267&is=6a89e0e7&hm=db2394ee31735dfb9c23a19839375eeb6b0a4e7fb174d53837c97e3d5cf881f7& [17:48:36] interesting [17:49:10] [1/2] modern [17:49:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540779882752122980/image.png?ex=6a8b3296&is=6a89e116&hm=6a6972fbc7229280e0544de5667cbcd8586c1c69605e1bb589b2323cd0301028& [17:49:57] Presumably it was modern when they made it? [17:50:14] looks sick [17:50:38] thank you!! [17:50:44] MediaWiki next :> [18:03:50] [1/2] MediaWiki [18:03:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540783574326714419/image.png?ex=6a8b3606&is=6a89e486&hm=79cf1ed14254a7f80d75c173aea2599279364d82864216c6826cc02618b34266& [18:09:44] I think I did something wrong, the space is there but no text [18:09:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540785061987750059/image.png?ex=6a8b3769&is=6a89e5e9&hm=8450ed2e0a54ff3400d1d55b8a7b508682504a13037dc5ccb0cd2b9d117e43fa& [18:10:49] May be missing some CSS, not sure [18:29:07] (joke about how css sanitiser is overly-restrictive [18:29:21] have you seen the modern skin [18:29:54] holy shit it actually uses 2014 standards [18:30:37] [1/2] hey you know this property that became baseline in 2015 and literally cannot be abused? [18:30:37] [2/2] no fuck you, you can't use it [18:31:12] me when I had to get pix to enable Extender on miraheze meta [18:31:20] color-mix() is newer so I assume they just haven't updated in a while [18:31:25] but there's no excuse for background clip [18:31:41] I don't think I've used either of those tbh [18:31:59] I have to use color-mix pretty frequently for styling so it gets pretty annoying having to make a variable every time for it [18:32:07] the one that got tse enabled on meta was something like vertical-align or align-content or [18:32:36] and background clip is just a minor inconvenience for gradient text, can just use an inline html style for it so eh [18:32:46] ah I think on the bc wiki we have so much legacy variable bloat that there's basically a colour for everything already [18:38:05] [1/3] Having to pass an extra parameter in the data which appends clip class from common css which would be much more convenient to be used straight in the css [18:38:05] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540792189682978927/image.png?ex=6a8b3e0c&is=6a89ec8c&hm=7cb53873f1d4fdf24697984cc0df1001cace2138c7d6efbfa10ce4709633664a& [18:38:05] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540792190014595183/image.png?ex=6a8b3e0c&is=6a89ec8c&hm=003b2d0f6cbed3a6c07e889edecbfb9cc3c092f4030f3bda34864b21d86fb5e3& [18:39:26] the day that css sanitizer supports nesting, background-clip, and color-mix() is the day that I can die peacefully [18:39:52] -# I will be waiting until 2035 at the earliest [18:40:41] TemplateStylesNeue with custom scss [18:41:18] Sweet dreams [18:48:59] watch them update in 2034 and its still 10 years behind [20:34:32] is there a way to disable say citizen.css for a session? i want to refactor mine but i'm not sure how i'd go about seeing changes without like commenting it out or something [20:37:43] `?safemode=1`, or enable safemode in preferences [20:37:49] alternatively switch skin [20:38:06] alternatively look at your browser requests and block the url for load.php [20:38:16] doesnt this strip all css though? [20:38:53] specifically i'd be looking to disable citizen.css for myself [20:39:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1540822655295291483/image.png?ex=6a8b5a6c&is=6a8a08ec&hm=b98d9a8b03e7a32b538455e11ab16aa262269b9f70cd3ac17abba92728bea821& [20:39:40] or maybe there's an easier way to do that idk [20:44:06] hm [20:44:17] i dont think its quite what i'm looking for sadly [20:44:19] thanks tho [20:52:30] if it's not what you're looking for, then maybe this could be an XY problem. why does citizen.css need to be disabled, is it not possible to do what you want with citizen.css enabled? [20:53:49] i suspect it is possible without disabling it, but i dont know the best way to go about it so i went with the only way i could think to [20:55:09] what are you trying to do then [20:56:29] [1/2] my citizen.css is a mess so i'm going to refactor it [20:56:29] [2/2] i dont want the existing css to take effect, only the new css, so i can see how things need to be changed [20:57:11] i was going to have the new css in my user common.css for now, but i dont know what to do about the existing css [22:35:12] [1/3] > The TemplateSandbox extension allows template and module editors to preview the effects of their edit on another page. This extension works for pages in MediaWiki namespace as well, such as MediaWiki:Common.css, MediaWiki:Common.js, and gadget definitions. To enable the TemplateSandbox preview button, modify the MediaWiki namespace in Special:ManageWiki/nam [22:35:12] [2/3] espaces and enable $wgTemplateSandboxEditNamespaces for it. [22:35:13] [3/3] From https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Monthly/June_2026 [22:38:30] ah I forgot that worked with mediawiki pages [23:37:56] how much time does it usually take for moderators to review requests? [23:43:46] If the AI does it then minutes, if it passes it on for human review then normally 2-4 days. [23:44:30] alright thank you [23:54:26] is there anyone from the fischipedia admin group here? I think I found some very unperformant JavaScript that is making ~half of all pageviews take ~500ms of CPU time (render-blocking) to render some invisible menu items it doesn't need [23:54:38] they have a discord server but it requires authing with a roblox account, which I don't have [23:55:32] time to start playing roblox I guess [23:55:41] god is this really how it starts [23:56:02] im surprised you dont have a roblox account [23:58:50] i don't actually play games [23:58:53] don't tell anyone