[00:36:40] D. All of the above [00:37:07] Or wait it's one of the you can select all options polls oops [00:41:21] obviously, you can two or three based on your memory and your choice so? [00:42:23] I don't see the multi choice polls often, so I forgot to check if it was one [00:43:35] a useful tip is to click of them, is it only clicks on one then a singular vote, if not then you can vote more than once and choose your option based on the options. [01:10:10] i got a wiki and for some reason cant see the sidebar when signed out. is there some sort of permission i have to enable? [01:30:01] Bump [03:29:24] what skin are you using? [03:47:52] oh that was the issue thanks [04:04:59] is miraheze down [04:05:07] <18.748.837.46> yea [04:06:31] 502s have entered the chat. [04:08:13] <18.748.837.46> ok its back for me [04:16:44] still down for me it would appear [04:19:05] <1024720274928697384> Yeah getting 503s [04:20:05] 503s? im getting 502s [04:20:09] Error 502 for me. [04:20:40] oh just got a 503 [04:20:44] ight bruh [04:20:44] hm [04:20:47] <1024720274928697384, replying to galadino> yeah `Error 503 Backend fetch failed via cp201 at Sun, 06 Sep 2026 04:18:47 GMT`, I assume servers dying again [04:20:48] whatever ill just come back later [04:20:52] Site is having issues. [04:20:55] How often are the 502s and 503s? [04:21:01] And I'm in the middle of uploading 375 files. [04:21:12] hey, I want to ask you, do you like portable infoboxes? Do you think they are good? [04:21:19] In general [04:21:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546012446865752124/image.png?ex=6a9e3bca&is=6a9cea4a&hm=d1edd234ab430202d9886f27ecaeed230b8bf112462999cd9284ee5691e150d7& [04:22:02] I was looking at them, and I thought they may be a little useless, and overcomplicated for what they actually are [04:22:10] They're good, plus I don't have to worry with the pains of wikitables. [04:22:13] Am I wrong for thinking r [04:22:33] i reloaded like 20 times and was able to see the main page once [04:22:39] they can be as ccomplicated or uncomplicated as you want them to be [04:23:11] what happens if I make a template, but then for a specific situation I need another row? how does portable wikitables handle it? [04:23:43] It is better to make a template for that? how to decide what is important enough for a infobox? [04:24:31] PoetableInfoxes are usually my go-to, especially when doing it via InfoboxBuilder. Other times, I do it manually. [04:25:09] if you don't need the row in most situations you don't have to fill it out. they automatically only fill out if you enter the data [04:25:35] I was reading about it and it seems confusing, it is because I am just starting? it will be easier the longer I edit? [04:25:46] What is your experience with that? [04:25:57] everything is more confusing when you first start editing because you dont know WHY [04:26:13] Thanks for bearing with folks, most of our fine @Technology Team is currently asleep, we'll be on it when someone is available [04:26:17] why use templates, why care about html or extensions, what are the long term effects of this or that [04:26:38] Did something happen? [04:26:53] Widespread 50Xs again [04:26:56] <1024720274928697384> Server explode [04:27:03] hmm, thanks [04:27:08] db161 again it seems. I am working on it. [04:27:42] Might be time to enact the yappin transition plan, as comment streams has been root cause a few times [04:28:14] Someone spilled coffee on the servers again. ☕ [04:29:28] this is the kind of thing you will learn for yourself either the hard way after a long time at your own wiki, or by looking at other wikis and talking to ppl about why they do certain things, or why they changed from X to Y thing [04:29:41] <1024720274928697384, replying to wickerbasket2540> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546014499889483786/eqpsR20.png?ex=6a9e3db4&is=6a9cec34&hm=0d6b219add916114167284df70c75d5537339f0948c79ed33189343e8d9db8f0& [04:30:31] but yeah i do like portable infoboxes because they work out of the box and you rarely have to do any set up, maybe just a few css tweaks if you want, choose your rows, and the hard part is already done for you [04:30:39] I have stabilized some of the farm. db161 wikis are still down [04:31:26] thanks, it is really confusing, getting everything done feels like homework [04:31:55] But at least the begining is the hard part, then it comes the fun [04:32:09] <.labster, replying to 1024720274928697384> Actual footage of the AI revolt of '28 [04:32:29] Making template documentation pages for the PortableInfobox templates is also a fun one. [04:32:40] <1024720274928697384, replying to .labster> Honestly I would hope that hardware go in the hands of the folks who need it once the buzz wears off :< [04:32:54] oh i was gonna say that is the one thing i dont like but its not exclusive to PIs (module has that issue too) and its so in the weeds lol [04:32:55] Mediawiki has a high learning curve, but each success builds on the last and makes the next thing easier [04:33:31] (colourized) [04:33:49] <.labster> Honestly I've always found Mediawiki pretty easy to understand. Of course I'm a Perl programmer so. [04:34:02] Your experience here isn't unique, but I can promise you that starting small and focusing on individual smaller tasks to get done will make the bigger ones so much easier in time. [04:34:11] That explains a lot Labster [04:35:26] Next you're gonna tell me you tried lisp but gave it up as 'too trendy' [04:36:25] <.labster> I've done a decent amount in FORTRAN. [04:36:40] <.labster> You know, this century. [04:36:47] decade? [04:37:54] <.labster> Nah, but as far as I know new weather models are still being written in Fortran because (1) "everyone" knows it and (2) the compilers are really, really optimized after 50+ years and (3) it's actually much better than C at scientific computing. [04:38:09] Hi [04:39:15] Not shocked about this in the slightest. Was still doing some cobol stuff in school in 2010 [04:39:31] <.labster> Yes but Cobol has always been terrible. [04:40:33] More talking about that the tools that work even if poorly suited become incredibly durable [04:40:37] I also find MediaWiki pretty easy to use, but I read enwikipedia templates for years and then contributed for about a year before making a Miraheze wiki. [04:40:40] Everything is back online now. [04:41:29] Yippeee [04:41:41] https://klipy.com/gifs/thank-you-thanks-888 [04:41:55] <.labster> MW templates are basically the MS Excel of wiki programming. Sure you could write a module or even an extension, but why not have screens full of brackets? [04:42:16] No worries. Apologies for extended delay here. [04:42:27] <.labster, replying to cosmicalpha> muchas gracias [04:42:57] No problem. [04:45:14] does anyone know how to add a page banner? [04:47:19] Thank you! [04:49:36] <.labster, replying to lukazvs.> You mean site notice? Temporary header on the top of every page? [05:06:46] Making a site notice is relatively simple. [05:20:08] MediaWiki:Sitenotice [05:53:27] Hi [05:53:36] !helper [05:58:41] John miraheze [05:58:49] Hi [05:58:54] Any human here [05:59:14] !helper [06:00:18] I am only human afterall [06:00:34] Relay are you a human [06:00:40] I thought it's a bot [06:00:46] Apologies [06:01:18] Nope, all humans on the other end, this is relayed to our discord sever. [06:01:35] My apologies [06:02:07] That's cool [06:02:53] Actually miraheze sufiwiki i not [06:03:10] Visual editor is not working [06:03:32] Although we have enabled it [06:04:00] From wiki setting [06:04:37] sufiwiki.miraheze.org [06:05:15] Can you please enable it in backend [06:07:19] Visual editor is one of those annoying extensions that can take a few hours to start showing up after being enables (sometimes up to a day or two) [06:07:50] If you just enabled it, please give it a few hours to start showing up. [06:47:06] I have still not received the solution [06:47:38] !helper [06:47:54] Please enable visual editor on my wiki [06:49:31] ?????? [06:49:39] Any hell is available here? [06:49:48] Waiting for so long [06:51:34] ?????? [06:51:44] Fuck off [06:53:00] ??? 😭😭😭 [07:00:30] Looks like they left, but in case they come back, the problem is that they have visual editor disabled in all namespaces [07:00:42] Not sure personally that that's the best way to get help. [07:01:19] Nope [07:48:15] How you do that? [07:54:39] Valid crashout. [08:12:55] hey y'all. stupid question, but what can a Chu Nom wiki be used for? [09:10:23] titled things I suppose, if I knew what that was about [11:36:10] holy crash out 😭 [11:40:09] this is the weirdest way to spell this word I've ever seen [11:42:12] [1/6] I've also found it easy enough to understand for the most part (e.g. I kinda just get it when I see an issue relating to a template with a trailing newline) [11:42:13] [2/6] But then there's stuff like ``` [11:42:13] [3/6]
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text/p/div` which still kinda annoys me [11:43:29] my friend did some FORTRAN once and said it was really easy to do stuff, I think specifically parallel processing [12:18:03] well depends on what a Chu Nom is [12:35:22] test [12:35:30] ok me server tag works [12:39:14] [1/2] i think miraheze doesn't allow chu nom interface (bc it's not supported by mediawiki core). there's only vietnamese written in chu guoc ngu in requestwiki [12:39:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546137703018663946/image.png?ex=6a9eb072&is=6a9d5ef2&hm=47d346c5ce9a7f56ad2610fb692488db77eaec9bdba19bb0bc7ce9064079cc19& [13:10:59] [1/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546145683428479036/image_f45h39.png?ex=6a9eb7e0&is=6a9d6660&hm=fe9d4af5ae4b83eeeaebe0a2a87bd352761d3da6e150434a594a978a77585e0f& [13:10:59] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546145684317675701/PXL_20260822_133855_289.png?ex=6a9eb7e1&is=6a9d6661&hm=eed24606aa423e24570c88ee039a4acef0fe577105b1fb0b7e924417592c7fdf& [13:10:59] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546145685064384673/20260815_013921.png?ex=6a9eb7e1&is=6a9d6661&hm=711cec6081e8fba78e4862a7d704402e4c549b67054464635b0b163948c9409e& [13:10:59] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546145685714243704/IMG_8195.png?ex=6a9eb7e1&is=6a9d6661&hm=687443e4dff00315630e0344b1a51bec93f3d6fe5119dc3104ab9e82f0f0713a& [14:32:11] [1/2] Hi I have a really quick question, I've been meaning to make infoboxes for my wiki but I'm having trouble adding tabs(?) underneath the image at the top, for reference I want it to look something like this (I can draw something up if this isn't clear enough) [14:32:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546166128123056238/IMG_3240.png?ex=6a9ecaeb&is=6a9d796b&hm=c59e795043ea07d4d2474891e845a2937e63c5f51436a1e3ac541528413ed393& [15:01:41] Genshin Impact. [15:01:49] [1/16] you should use sections: [15:01:49] [2/16] example: [15:01:49] [3/16] ```html [15:01:50] [4/16]

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