[02:02:47] [1/2] What the FUCK?? [02:02:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546702307675349012/image.png?ex=6aa0be46&is=6a9f6cc6&hm=9cab5b4d9a6f9099446a1d4f926ad0c26150547f2021aeceeffbbb23b0068cc5& [02:09:03] [1/2] Anyone know how to like create like a list style table? [02:09:03] [2/2] Im trying to get like a table set up of all the holders of a title in succession order and such [02:24:16] ...yeah. the double edged sword of having visibility to global search inputs [02:24:34] You will absolutely see upsetting things no matter what the topic is [03:52:40] Why do I need to have my VPN off even if I already log on [04:41:50] since when? [04:46:00] Does it matter when in this case [04:48:18] Can you log in when your VPN is on? If so, there's no problem [04:48:59] Maybe I forgot to add a detail which is even if I have the account on my browser the images, icons and fonts disappear [04:52:43] It may not be the VPN thing. Have you tried a different browser? [05:05:02] Yes but I found a bottleneck that Gecko based browsers which is Firefox ones have a weird blank images when using IPv6 [05:05:26] On Chromium doesn't have that issue 🤔 [05:06:36] But previously it didn't reload the images until I turned on and off [05:06:48] And with IPv4 mostly fixes the issue [05:16:52] The VPN controls are primarily with initial account creation and attaching to new wikis. They are an unfortunate but necessary abuse prevention vector. [05:17:18] As with all things Miraheze, if there's a rule, there's an unfortunate story behind why it became necessary. [05:20:59] [1/2] The specific bottleneck is how chromium doesn't have that issue [05:20:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546752187940610048/Captura_de_ecra_2026-09-06_042455.png?ex=6aa0ecba&is=6a9f9b3a&hm=36d48c3d88513a96f918b5953c1978d0c70146124dc105509d92dc7ac2b133c6& [05:21:53] Not the VPN itself as I already log on [06:07:45] Ya there's some weird connection between certain browser and cloudfare [06:08:07] on mobile, samsung browser has the same issue as yours. Images just won't load [06:10:54] Both are chromium based [06:11:07] But the samsung lacks the JavaScript [06:18:08] I used thorium but it didn't happened [06:18:37] It's the IPv6 that can mess up with Miraheze on Gecko browsers [06:18:55] oooouuuu Mindustry i love this game [06:19:25] I wish there was more people here but it's been on a hundred at least [06:19:42] And it still not even that close as the list gets exponentional [06:44:52] [1/2] What happened? [06:44:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546773296857489418/Screenshot_20260908-094326.jpg?ex=6aa10063&is=6a9faee3&hm=afd9dc5dd909bdb45851249717111b9a3dd8103999d612490f078c1b694f71e5& [06:45:02] I am working on it [06:45:21] Bad Gateway Error again I see [06:45:42] Oh nvm it's Scheduled Maintenance time rn [06:45:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546773536440328312/image.png?ex=6aa1009c&is=6a9faf1c&hm=d57c22bf75b6bc61e17952ff2a83fd1bf04235842805103e26346d0224217df5& [06:45:56] Aware. [06:45:57] Bye bye work [06:45:59] damn maintenance? [06:46:09] I am working on it. Will be up in 2 minutes hopefully. [06:46:28] Ty mod [06:46:51] whats happening with the wiki guys?? [06:46:56] yeah idk [06:47:05] luckily i'm stopped at the edit preview page [06:47:20] Coming back up [06:47:28] i was in the midst of editing and was about to preview lmao [06:47:37] i copied my work beforehand [06:47:37] maintenance at the worst time lmao [06:47:40] And should be back [06:47:42] I pressed submit and I get the feeling my work is gone [06:47:43] wait [06:47:48] preview works fine [06:47:48] is this for the fisch wiki [06:47:52] i have 5 doors official wikis open [06:47:56] lol [06:47:56] [1/2] like im not done aaaaaa [06:47:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546774071474262016/image.png?ex=6aa1011c&is=6a9faf9c&hm=a9488241a3526b0438ab46e8a468e0f324061d7223596dd9d980c0c60ab3e104& [06:47:57] i think there are more wikis using miraheze [06:48:00] right? [06:48:01] This was not planned maintenance, one of our database servers crashed causing the whole farm to go down. [06:48:08] Oh no! It actually somehow pushed out the whole edit. [06:48:08] It is now fixed. [06:48:11] oh,,, [06:48:12] when will it be up??? [06:48:13] ok [06:48:15] whew [06:48:20] ohh [06:48:21] It's up now! [06:48:21] thanks!!!1 [06:48:21] wow thanks [06:48:27] Oh [06:48:31] ok thanks [06:48:32] thought it was an actual maintenance [06:48:34] w its back up [06:48:35] Yea I was just about to ask why it's down [06:48:41] if you have EditRecovery enabled in Special:Preferences you should be fine [06:48:57] i thought that fisch crashed when i searched about castbound XD [06:49:05] how do you merge pages? [06:49:12] We should enable that by default if it isn't already maybe. [06:49:44] um, I manually enabled it by myself when it's still testing [06:49:57] don't know if it's on by default now [06:50:07] Nope. Apologies for that. We will be working on a permanent fix soon to try and prevent this from happening in the future again. [06:50:31] what happened? it said it was down for maintence [06:50:33] its okay dude! i can wait a lot of maintences happen whenever i do stuff [06:50:55] Huh so I'm having a weird error personally, my friends cannot translate any part of my wiki with a link [06:51:02] Not sure why because they have the translate perm [06:51:37] That is just our default page. The maintenance was unscheduled maintenance. It was caused because one of our database clusters became unresponsive which brought the whole farm down. [06:51:55] oh [06:52:02] i think this is more of a some sort hangout server when excluding maintenance or other stuff [06:54:15] THIS IS A THING? :stare: [06:55:20] Yea I've been trying to fix this for 20 minutes and [06:55:24] Not working [06:55:32] So I don't understand what's up [06:55:53] [1/2] I learned so much about making templates and importing modules yesterday [06:55:53] [2/2] Can't believe how many modultes I needed to import just to make a {{Main}} and {{See_also}} template [06:55:54] [1/2] [06:55:55] [2/2] [06:56:04] thanks [06:57:41] yeah, in the edit section of your preference [07:12:20] hello [07:12:36] does anyone know how to force dark mode on citizen skin [07:13:18] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Always_dark_mode [07:13:28] I did that on mine with timeless [07:13:43] just make sure you enable RenderBlocking [07:13:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546780594933862430/d0f69xv.png?ex=6aa1072f&is=6a9fb5af&hm=c9a79745f241522d192437556d66f8735b42de74be92f0ff570fad3bd8a2fc85& [07:14:09] i just want to disable light mode entirely, make it hidden if possible [07:14:28] That should work for citizen [07:15:11] just make a `MediaWiki:Renderblocking-citizen.js` or whatever citizen css file is called [07:18:47] [1/2] does not work unfortunately [07:18:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546781836288593930/p3v1tk9.png?ex=6aa10857&is=6a9fb6d7&hm=89d9f0f8b401b65016b422096c85c61fea9db3407a5f78eb4f8d09a20a8b0983& [07:29:53] you can refer to https://mwcitizen.skin/features/preferences#examples it shows how to hide a config entirely [07:32:54] Still stuck... idk why translations don't let you SEE the edit before you release it it's super weird [07:37:42] Anybody? Seriously stuck on this and it's causing issues with expanding and collapsing stuff :( [09:20:42] thanks for the help! [09:32:24] Ya'll really don't know what to do about this? [09:56:56] have you/they tried emptying the cache or pressing ctrl+shift+R? [09:57:12] maybe their role didn't register for them yet [09:57:17] Yeo [09:58:13] I'm moreso confused why links are being weird tho I mean I published the translation with links and it simply has not shown up and I'm a bureaucrat [09:58:39] when was that [09:58:59] Like an hour or 2 ago [09:59:36] hmm idk [09:59:42] review the wiki permissions [09:59:56] maybe there's something wrong with your permissions [10:00:22] or you have not set your site language to your desired translation [10:00:41] [1/3] For example [10:00:41] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546822576087502869/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_2.59.46_AM.png?ex=6aa12e48&is=6a9fdcc8&hm=e559fae326124fb2c00ef853033cacebfa10ca84376a952084e8c3ecf03a0574& [10:00:41] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546822576431571085/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_3.00.36_AM.png?ex=6aa12e48&is=6a9fdcc8&hm=ed6b0e6cdc2057c44b16c6a9b5324ae5e6cb7bb7ffffe1bfc12083ec361b73f2& [10:01:17] I'm certain I have and for permissions I've given both my wiki editors role and myself every role pertaining to link possible [10:01:29] So I got no clue what the problem it [10:02:29] did you change to your wanted language in your preferences [10:02:45] Yes [10:03:11] huh [10:03:12] no idea [10:03:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546823247314555021/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_3.03.17_AM.png?ex=6aa12ee8&is=6a9fdd68&hm=84b737e86d766adc316f5bcbfe22de1821585ccc6f615f2c6d0d6f5271a59f0d& [10:03:45] Yeah I'm just super confused idk why it's being so odd [10:03:58] [1/2] this option [10:03:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546823405871960166/rd20tfj.png?ex=6aa12f0e&is=6a9fdd8e&hm=c8a82ef287e69d8e79a88ed63733837bf941b905f003339c1fc2e64bf656e9a6& [10:04:01] in user preferences [10:04:31] Ah wait lemmie see [10:05:19] Huh uh where would that be exactly [10:05:36] I don't see Internationalisation anywhere [10:05:36] screenshot your screen [10:05:44] Lookin at special pages rn [10:05:59] it's not in special pages [10:06:18] [1/2] in preferences over here [10:06:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546823990444564500/k6s7888.png?ex=6aa12f99&is=6a9fde19&hm=e18f2b68250cfa8a53cbd8c7f0630dee7f63b4d4b843b74538aca5567c13db78& [10:07:04] Ah preferences [10:07:54] Ok [10:08:00] So let me pick Chinese for a sec [10:08:32] And that did not do anything but change everything but my wiki into Chinese [10:08:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546824620500328538/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_3.08.44_AM.png?ex=6aa13030&is=6a9fdeb0&hm=08184369e2124f47736f5480f0b7662ea8b862482c6e502f3ff814095125216e& [10:10:26] Yea that doesn't do anything, picking the languages thing in the top right corner hasn't ever done anything to my wiki I have to go to translations then go to the custom link with the /zh-cn at the end for like Chinese for example [10:10:33] Did you read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example [10:10:47] Ys [10:10:57] Well I believe I did [10:11:09] It is currently like 3 in the morning for me so I may have misread smth [10:11:18] Link to your wiki page? [10:12:02] https://microsoftaccountrecovery.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [10:15:56] [1/2] I can translate fine after appending `&debug=2` to the URL. I think it's outdated ResourceLoader modules. [10:15:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546826415029096528/image.png?ex=6aa131db&is=6a9fe05b&hm=27876cf3ba8bcb27d8d32aee1016135430ee5ca18e60748fc33b675080a3d2fa& [10:16:34] Hm strange [10:16:55] So the I have to add that to the end of the url before I want to translate then or is there some other solution [10:17:02] Also, you don't really want translators to touch HTML tags. Exclude them from the translate tag or use `tvar`. [10:17:25] Figures I was just trying to figure out how to get it working [10:17:45] The other solution is to wait for the cache to expire. [10:18:02] Though I can translate fine without `&debug=2` now. Might just be a hiccup. [10:18:12] Hm [10:18:14] Interesting [10:18:23] I wasn't expecting cache to be this big a deal for this stuff [10:20:40] How long would that take? [10:31:13] I do not know. Ask them to try in an incognito window or a different browser. [10:31:29] These should be unaffected by cache. [10:31:34] Hm alr [10:32:22] Just seems like collapsables are always broken in at least both Arabic and Chinese since for Arabic they're all stuck as open and Chinese they're all trying to like [10:32:26] Melt together [10:44:51] I forgot to mention my Chinese translator did switch from Firefox to Edge and same thing [10:55:20] So idk [10:55:37] I just cleared all my cache for like all my apps and still nothin [11:55:27] Did you try `&debug=2`? [11:55:38] No [11:55:43] I will noew [11:58:29] Just did and so far looks like it didn't do anything [11:59:41] What URL did you use? [12:00:06] https://microsoftaccountrecovery.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Translate?group=page-Main+Page&action=page&filter=&action_source=translate_page&language=zh-cn&debug=2 [12:00:12] Just attached it at the end ther [12:00:46] [1/2] Works for me. Just added another translation. [12:00:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546852798858268692/image.png?ex=6aa14a6e&is=6a9ff8ee&hm=c0a9bfb7aab317c47c663fde69d75052badb042120bd1f537b876c9919f0a496& [12:01:27] That's weird I mean I tried publishing my translations again [12:01:34] And it still doesn't show up at all [12:01:57] [1/2] Like this no link when it should [12:01:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546853097559826492/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_5.01.49_AM.png?ex=6aa14ab5&is=6a9ff935&hm=cb7a0e6d53eebc42b9b360eb5d3fd2ae7109f4315d373e7786a58958bdabc946& [12:02:18] [1/2] This all melting together for some reason???? [12:02:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546853182729093211/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_5.02.08_AM.png?ex=6aa14ac9&is=6a9ff949&hm=2c4a1d2863c115c08bedbe6fc4f935163b969b27a25c651fcf2c52f10ab5be9a& [12:02:36] [1/2] Or these being in Englis [12:02:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546853260160401438/Screenshot_2026-09-08_at_5.02.30_AM.png?ex=6aa14adc&is=6a9ff95c&hm=863321249b1029729663b7495d16adead4a55731e3be838d008d181b187ade50& [12:03:22] Read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example [12:03:54] In particular read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_example#Let's_modify_something! [12:05:39] Uh huh [12:05:42] Uhhhhhhhhhhh [12:05:55] Ik I'm probably just being dense but I don't see anything that I'm not already doing [12:06:04] [1/3] ``` [12:06:04] [2/3] [12:06:04] [3/3] ``` [12:06:17] OH RIGHT THE LANGUAGES [12:16:16] Ok wait but adding that did not solve nay of the problems I just mentionefd [12:18:34] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546857276470726676/image.png?ex=6aa14e99&is=6a9ffd19&hm=dc1b6fe389c26e388e4768d4605d37615446d1d88fe5fb4a076d1ee7d728460b& [12:18:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546857276956999710/image.png?ex=6aa14e9a&is=6a9ffd1a&hm=c4387774742ef7746b7809af45829423a92d2f4602862f48fc6a7ccba1dda3d2& [12:20:34] Oh I see [12:21:56] Hm but trying to add it to anything else I get a unbalanced translation tag and I would rather not have to have the tag for EVERY SINGLE section considering there's [12:22:08] Like 200 [12:23:02] Ok well now I'm confused [12:25:20] Yeah now I'm just confused [12:50:54] [1/2] See mediawiki.org for examples of how to use it. E.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting [12:50:54] [2/2] If you use the Translate extension then you'll have to deal with its quirks. [12:53:53] a:pain: [13:17:49] <20bunnies> [1/2] i wanted to change a filename and it warns me that theres already a file named like that, but its a file that doesnt belong to me??? [13:17:49] <20bunnies> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546872188664029275/grafik.png?ex=6aa15c7d&is=6aa00afd&hm=0cf6b87d9b42e8ed0e2725b115998ee7f21323b85211f4477dbf467bb8ce5620& [13:18:30] <20bunnies> [1/2] i did NOT upload this! [13:18:30] <20bunnies> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546872358608834600/grafik.png?ex=6aa15ca5&is=6aa00b25&hm=80e2efef94fa508fbbefd97d91c0af61329ea8f46135f54ddd93859b679975ea& [13:18:44] <20bunnies> should i still rename the image or will i break something?? [13:19:01] That's Commons, don't worry about it. [13:19:09] Uploading your image won't break anything. [13:19:09] <20bunnies> so ill just rename it? [13:19:12] <20bunnies> ok! [13:19:15] <20bunnies> <3 ty [13:20:01] If an image name doesn't match a local image, it checks Commons. [13:20:03] No problem [13:21:00] <20bunnies> ohhh i see [13:21:16] <20bunnies> thats why test.jpg gives an image even tho i didnt upload one [13:21:21] Ye [13:21:23] Exactly [13:35:16] returns a gallery from the input. is where it is invoked [13:37:44] unless you're importing from wikipedia, you shouldn't need to import any modules to make those templates work. in fact the templates that @Wiki-Bot linked below your message both do not require any modules (outside of the documentation) [14:03:02] [1/5] Thanks. [14:03:02] [2/5] I was mostly asking if there were any tricks you could use inside the tag (``) of the Portable Infobox. [14:03:02] [3/5] I can't do any wiki formatting on the source attribute, or provide other formatting since the image tag doesn't have a format child. [14:03:02] [4/5] I also don't know how to get the individual images out of the gallery. So I either have to not use the gallery or deal with those limitations. [14:03:03] [5/5] Not a big deal either way. Just a choice I have to make. [14:04:32] hey guys [14:04:33] i need HELP [14:04:34] PLEASE [14:04:41] how do i downald the sound effect [14:04:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1546884032145395712/image.png?ex=6aa16784&is=6aa01604&hm=1f94eedba62e622345cbcc73de83324a0d9a4a4e47f714472449a28280172d93& [14:06:22] the template I linked doesn't have a `source` for the image which is how it is able to decide whether to format a gallery [14:07:09] and then the lua module automatically creates the `` [14:54:01] [1/2] it does actually [14:54:01] [2/2] for others curious about this 'images won't load' issue, search for my topic in #support where i (and others) shared our tests and such [15:06:03] it also matters when it was essentially the wrong question from the start and real context suggested something entirely different was going on [15:07:34] the only cases where a vpn programmatically will screw people up and require action is a) attachment to new wikis, that is a bother and I hate it but it still requires context to determine, or b) hardblock. A hardblock is not practice on Miraheze and to the extent I use it, I use it for very specific examples which I can assess are low to no probability of collateral. [15:08:13] A problem occurring from b) is not impossible and my weigh is far from infallible but it would certainly raise questions [15:55:45] hmm [16:01:58] It could be that @ruyeex is getting blocked by Cloudflare [16:02:23] Can you please try to right click and open image in new tab and tell us if you get a Cloudflare captcha or error [16:02:26] Or anything else [16:02:33] When your VPN is on [16:04:24] cloudflare creating crap could be it yes [16:04:40] in that case cycling the IP rather than totally removing the VPN will probably work [16:05:02] I've done that routinely over time, it is a broad internet problem [16:05:45] there are also ways to configure the environment to be less suspect to vpn challenges since things like your timezone being completely out of whack to the vpn location can be flaggable by cloudflare and other tools [16:10:55] I thought we disabled that for static.wikitide.net [16:11:30] It may depend on the rule [16:11:57] Potentially depending on the provider and the block [16:12:09] We don't detect VPNs so no that's useless [16:12:28] It's more that the specific exit node you're using might have a restriction on it [16:15:45] not what I was on about [16:17:06] cloudflare itself may do it as part of its thing deciding when to issue challenges depending on the kind of protection set up broadly, if you've looked at that for miraheze specifically and don't have any option to configure for it then its not to say cloudflare isn't capable anyway because I have seen it come up on other platforms with cloudflare walls [16:17:55] even if it does not specifically occur under miraheze it is still something websites can do and which can trip up vpn usage/subject them to more challenges by the existence of the inconsistency [16:18:10] but indeed the being hardblocked or not would probably be just the reputation of the exit node [16:21:31] there's also other things that sites use/can use that trip up low effort install vpn and hope for the best usage but that's veering into off topic [18:00:47] We control the firewall config [18:00:58] We do not use VPNs as a factor in any of the rules enabled [18:01:20] I know our setup as well as the back of my hand [19:54:46] [1/4] i've finally felt like picking between three batch softwares and starting dem jxl conversions and... [19:54:46] [2/4] well, i picked libvips and uh... [19:54:46] [3/4] how dafuq do i get this going actually? so far, there doesn't seem to be any info on anything more than specific parameters, and like... i got the .exe running through cmd, but how in dafuq do i set a group of images to be converted? [19:54:47] [4/4] i'm mostly asking if there's a Quick Start guide i missed somewhere [19:56:08] [1/2] Usually these software doesn't have batch convert by default. [19:56:09] [2/2] You need to create a script calls the command each time. [19:58:43] [1/2] This is the batch script for batch converting png to webp I use back when I was on Windows [19:58:43] [2/2] for %%f in ("%CD%\input\*.png") do cwebp -lossless -z 9 -mt -print_ssim "%%f" -o "%CD%\output\%%~nf.webp" [20:00:51] You could tell the script to the AI and it could figure out for your use case [20:39:46] might just return to BIMP, but i'll see if i can figure this out later [22:06:56] Just wondering, out of the blue, but how does one change the color orientation of ```
``` or ``` - - -``` on MediaWiki CSS? [23:49:58] [1/5] ```css [23:49:59] [2/5] hr { [23:49:59] [3/5] } [23:49:59] [4/5] ``` [23:49:59] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547031273594429521/image.png?ex=6aa1f0a6&is=6aa09f26&hm=5751236a20e3d07afd633240dabf57220a53fb81aae3c708cf24eafbd9ce6be3& [23:56:04] Nevermind, solved it [23:56:11] Now I have a whole different issue ;-;