[00:03:18] what page are you trying to do this on? [00:03:19] cloudflare cache can take quite a while to update [00:03:44] js shouldn't be cached with `?debug=2` [00:04:05] [1/2] could this be related? [00:04:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547397212571701429/image.png?ex=6aa34574&is=6aa1f3f4&hm=6a2eb9f654d6a3b74ca773ee906bed5e63b9137579f0726a713b0f0ec61191cb& [00:04:08] I just remember I had custom JS that wouldn't update until Petrus purged CF cache for me [00:05:09] (I know ?debug=2 isn't the CF cache but I was just attempting to try every solution) [00:05:48] also you can check the response headers [00:06:17] `cf-cache-status: DYNAMIC` means it's not cached on cf [00:06:50] Ohhh neat trick. Thanks!! [00:06:50] and then there might be something also like `x-cache: cp171 pass` which I think is about varnish caching [00:07:11] I should probably write these things on [[user:theWWRNerdGuy/caching]] [00:07:12]

[00:07:17] try to comment this out for now? [00:07:20] Ahhhh I was thinking about Varnish, not CF, that was my mistake [00:08:23] Edited my messages to reflect that [00:08:36] well it looks like you directly copied a fandom script [00:09:00] which isn't going to 100% work. commenting it out might remove that specific error but idk if the script is still going to work [00:09:08] myes, we're currently in the process of porting over to miraheze [00:10:37] mayhap will comment out everything for now just to get the discord widget to work and back track from there. [00:17:30] removed all code, only the discord widget code is inside. will return in 30 mins to see if everything died. [04:50:05] Sorry it doesn't seem like you got a response in a timely fashion. If you've already selected a different skin under personal preferences, it won't override what you see. I'd confirm that both the default has been set under additional settings and that you personally are set to see that default under personal preferences [04:50:45] [1/2] oh yeah i didnt update [04:50:45] [2/2] turns out i set my user skin without realizing, because i turned minvervaneue on and got super disoriented [04:51:13] yeah no worries i already figured it out [04:51:22] Nice, glad you were able to get it sorted [07:30:21] [1/2] Is there something happening on the backend? I was in the middle of working on the theme and now the whole thing is boofed. [07:30:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547509521054699520/fjgjg.png?ex=6aa3ae0d&is=6aa25c8d&hm=257df29be12cbecb6222835089e46ad17ba63ae6104a8ae5dc40d2d862d8ea97& [07:30:56] Have you already waited a few minutes and refresh the cache? [07:32:12] I'll wait a while longer just to be sure, I'm pretty sure it's nothing I did, but when I was editing the theme it kept reverting back to the old one and new changed wouldn't "Take" [07:33:10] Thats normal, unless it is overlapping with another thing that modifies the theme's css it should fix automatically [07:33:50] On some browsers you can clear the cache by holding shift and clicking refresh it should make it update on your end [07:39:15] this happened to me tons of times, try refreshing the browser or reset your wifi [11:55:20] <90gq29> https://collusion.wiki/ [11:55:40] <90gq29> interesting stuff [11:56:20] <90gq29> has miraheze detected any rogue swarms accessing/trying to write to wikis yet? [12:18:29] publictestwiki has been hit multiple times [12:18:31] [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1545514411270082811 [12:18:32] [2/2] Announcement on the 4th. [12:19:01] it is a matter of ongoing internal examination to see what we can/should do about it [12:19:20] in general our approach to autonomous activity will probably tighten [12:19:29] already has as some people with bots can attest [13:03:06] Question -- is there any way to undo settings changes done on Special:ManageWiki/settings? [13:04:16] No but we can tell you what the default is etc if you've forget [13:04:42] Ok the main thing I'm looking for is wgExtractsRemoveClasses [13:05:50] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/2962e55a7ddd02863dcb0064a7dc652a2fafe1b3/ManageWikiSettings.php#L426 [13:05:51] <.kotohito> Greetings. [13:06:05] Hi [13:06:49] Can we help? [13:06:59] <.kotohito> I'm not very familiar with the server for this session, but would it be alright if I actively participated and used it? [13:07:53] Thank you! [13:09:11] It's a support server for a wiki hosting platform [13:09:46] <.kotohito, replying to rhinosf1> I see, I understand, thank you. [14:01:38] <.kotohito> Is there anyone willing to review my pending application? [14:34:12] Hey, I administrate for a decently sized and fairly active game wiki at pronounpalace.miraheze.org. They've been asking for an improved search feature, but CirrusSearch requires site admin approval. Is that ever given for wikis like ours? [14:35:50] I'll request it [14:35:58] through https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Restricted_changes [14:36:05] wow i just got sniped /j [14:36:35] or you can do it if you want [14:36:51] Thank you! [14:37:01] np [14:37:20] i believe it has to come from a local official, so @seachameleon request at your leisure, it can be enabled by a steward without issue [14:38:32] JustLeafy made the wiki/subdomain even if I'm doing a lot of the current admin work so if he puts in the request it should be fine [14:38:52] yeah [14:39:01] made the request [14:39:05] ty! [14:39:26] np [14:42:49] Oh, are we getting closer to the Singularity? [14:44:37] yeah, not for the best of reasons unfortunately [14:56:32] is it common for lossless jxl's to be larger than the original jpg? and is there a program can export animated jxl's? GIMP seems to be static only. 😐 [15:27:56] <90gq29, replying to eytirth> yeah [15:28:25] <90gq29> openai solved a millenium problem a few days ago [15:28:59] <90gq29> and their internal models seem very capable in a number of areas [15:29:29] <90gq29> probably wont be long until we get rsi [15:57:06] [1/2] son 😭 [15:57:06] [2/2] https://www.science.org/content/article/how-ai-math-breakthrough-ignited-controversy [16:00:59] [1/5] Statements from the mathematician (Tristan Buckmaster) that alleged OpenAI was plagiarizing on his work on the Navier-Stokes problem, btw [16:00:59] [2/5] https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf [16:00:59] [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547638015344779454/image.png?ex=6aa425b8&is=6aa2d438&hm=d703f4e0f3c7b0c2c33c62dbb21b3c28ea190f6da3ce668f1d3a788760b87b15& [16:00:59] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547638016774897824/image.png?ex=6aa425b8&is=6aa2d438&hm=c6387894b5c9ed776acd1e49faaa3036375a9c89d63b58dad1d068ce896a2f2c& [16:01:00] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547638017718755358/image.png?ex=6aa425b9&is=6aa2d439&hm=980c4e5e2dbbd5280db7ee972762ab9bd83355a012f40d18fd249eb4d096a667& [16:05:17] <90gq29, replying to ccxtwf> [1/2] yeah and? the proofs differ and the only thing they said is that training data may have been submitted, which is the case for any input sent to openai unless you request them to not train on it [16:05:17] <90gq29, replying to ccxtwf> [2/2] https://vxtwitter.com/OpenAI/status/2097375276384567642 [16:08:53] supposedly solving a millenium problem because you were peeking at answers from other scientists and mathematicians who are also working at the problem is sure a way different statement of capability of AGI/RSI than arriving at the answer autonomously but sure [16:09:45] <90gq29, replying to ccxtwf> word is theyre putting it towards solving another millennium problem [16:17:52] [1/2] Does anyone know how to make a colour box span the width of a portable infobox row and make the edges rounded? [16:17:52] [2/2] Probably kinda specific but I'm trying to find out how to do it or something similar [16:17:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547642298827804672/Untitled755_20260911021726.png?ex=6aa429b5&is=6aa2d835&hm=b8a42285e0fb53fcb98e1544d8250b32562ff4ceca5cf83e94025e72aa38a51e& [16:18:05] ^ What I want terribly drawn lmao [16:51:59] rounded edges are done with `border-radius` [16:52:38] u could use clip path too [16:52:41] making it be the width of the row I think would just be `width:100%`? not sure how that interacts with portable infoboxes though [17:02:13] how to make headers autoexpanded with mobile frontend [17:10:24] Fanon Wiki is having problems right now. If you know a good Independent Non-Fandon Wiki dedicated to Mega Man fan games I can use to post my non-official contest entries of Mega Man Legends 3 Neo Devroom and Tuttle's Legendary Travels please let me know. [17:34:02] f*ndom... [18:00:05] There’s a megaman wiki on Miraheze but it’s for the official games. Otherwise you can start your own on Miraheze. [18:22:38] I want to bulk delete files that start with "File:Pinmaster-701" whats the quickest way to do this? [18:26:27] Nuke or jswikibot? [19:03:50] it was `.cm-tooltip.cm-tooltip-autocomplete` anyways thanks [19:14:11] add to `$wgMFNamespacesWithoutCollapsibleSections` [19:14:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547686793518911488/obraz.png?ex=6aa45326&is=6aa301a6&hm=8950c9c57e0f276acdc210e7afaede0499974855337ac86bec290c53472b38e4& [19:14:58] `/namespaces` [19:15:02] oh [19:16:28] thanks [19:52:24] Oh, is there one of those for 2026? [20:12:03] Asking out of interest. When a Wiki forks from another site (like F@ndom), does the requester have to prove the community on the other site agrees with forking? [20:12:29] [1/3] There is not. I'm guessing it never got much traction, which can be seen from the lack of proposals. Among these proposals many are not actionable, and those that are may not be done because no one is willing to take them up (e.g. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Assorted_improvements_for_the_Wiki_Creation_process). 4 years lat [20:12:30] [2/3] er points 1 and 2 are still not implemented. [20:12:30] [3/3] And I think submitting a feature request on Phorge is a better way of tracking these things. If there's a feature you want to upvote simply award it a token so that we know more people are interested in it. [20:16:39] I could be wrong, but I've seen 'rogue forks' happen before, so probably not [20:17:46] But whether you can or cannot, it's indeed best to get the community on Fandom to agree with you, if there is anybody there [20:18:34] If there is a community and you get them to join your fork, it's the only for a fork with a community can succeed [20:19:31] I do know on wiki.gg, you probably have to prove that more than on Miraheze, since the wiki creation system is more lenient than wiki.gg [20:22:52] <20bunnies> [1/2] what is this called and can i make this appear on certain pages automatically? [20:22:52] <20bunnies> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1547703930555858974/Screenshot_20260910-222116.png?ex=6aa4631b&is=6aa3119b&hm=6a1af08f60ba2b648924f9a89d6fce23e0c19921d7c27710bd8c62abdcecc6ed& [20:23:19] <20bunnies> i dont wanna have to update it each time i add something new [20:24:49] It's called a navbox and you can use a tool like jswikibrowser to append the navbox to pages missing one [20:25:32] Also, tboir has a better wiki here: https://bindingofisaacrebirth.wiki.gg [20:27:38] <20bunnies, replying to justleafy2003> im aware of the wiki.gg, but the navbox there looked different. i just wanted it for the screenshot :) [20:27:56] <20bunnies, replying to justleafy2003> could you link a guide maybe? [20:28:14] <20bunnies, replying to justleafy2003> also do you play the game? :) [20:29:59] https://runescape.wiki/w/RuneScape:AutoWikiBrowser/Script [20:30:22] I've played tboi but not tboi rebirth yet [20:30:26] <20bunnies, replying to justleafy2003> ill look at this tomorrow [20:30:36] <20bunnies, replying to justleafy2003> play rebirth with all dlc, its the best game ever [20:30:36] But I know that game has an excellent and popular wiki [20:30:52] <20bunnies, replying to justleafy2003> it does!! i recently had to fix up the german main page 😭😭😭 [20:31:53] Nice [21:21:15] [1/2] the only fork-related policies are no wmf forks and no forks of wikis already on miraheze (without good reason, you can still have a wiki with the same topic if e.g. the existing one is private) [21:21:15] [2/2] I guess that question might be relevant if it was something like bfdi or countryballs, where we'd only accept the wiki if we were confident in the admin team [21:26:29] Thank you, I'll try that :) [21:37:47] wth is tboi? [21:43:46] the binding of isaac [22:07:08] there's no way currently to hide IPs for anon accounts on miraheze right? [22:07:16] unless i'm mistaken [22:13:08] ok yeah i scrolled through and read it's for future [22:14:23] Admins can hide individual records, edit descriptions and or editor names from individual records from anyone other than other admins [22:14:34] [1/2] Not in general, but you can hide the username in a specific revision. [22:14:35] [2/2] We are pretty close to start testing temporary accounts on beta, though. If it goes well wikis will have the opportunity to opt-in with an explicit warning about this feature potentially breaking certain functionalities on the wiki. [22:14:48] Stewards can suppress those records from all users [22:14:48] Nice [22:15:53] In meantime, the only other way at scale to stop showing IP addresses is to take away anonymous editing rights [22:47:00] oh lmao