[02:37:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ceroba.27> [1/3] my wiki had been abandoned for a long, long time
[02:37:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ceroba.27> [2/3] but the timeline shattered
[02:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ceroba.27> [3/3] and I figured out the ropes
[03:14:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zombie_daniil> hello, I have a question, is it possible to make a multi-lingual Wiki, that is, to make pages translated into https://meta.miraheze.org, for example?
[03:15:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zombie_daniil> Well, just like on https://meta.miraheze.org
[03:19:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zh9567> Is the images having any problem? I can't view images on my wiki, it just shows a broken file link. It has been like this for a few days.
[03:36:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zombie_daniil> See https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki
[03:38:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Meta uses Extension:Translate, though I have rarely seen a wiki satisfied with it.
[03:42:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zombie_daniil> How do I remove /wiki/? Do I need to make a request to the stewards?
[03:43:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <finsanity> [[SR/RC]]
[03:43:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC>
[04:32:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zombie_daniil> Is it possible to prohibit people from logging into an account, and everyone except X?
[07:11:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to finsanity> Isn't it a tech request?
[07:12:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to zombie_daniil> Passwords. Or is that not the question?
[08:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> nothing more nuanced than ^ as far as the question as framed
[12:49:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to sakurababochka> no
[12:49:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> if it's on ManageWiki it's SR/RC
[13:20:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> Interesting. I'd assumed all web address things were tech.
[13:22:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <turbidnopaque> Is commissioning someone to edit wikis for you against Miraheze ToS
[13:22:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> don't think so
[13:22:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to sakurababochka> only subdomain, and that's only because it's linked to database name
[13:23:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/3] Oh god!
[13:23:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/3] There's a lot of infringment on miraheze commons...
[13:23:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [3/3] Can someone bring me up to speed on what template is to be used for  "used with permission"?
[13:27:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to thewwrnerdguy> That makes sense.
[13:27:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> I'd just assumed it was because link things were complicated to access in some way.
[13:42:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/3] @pskyechology could you help me tag a commons admin? The following page is protected and is displaying wrong information:
[13:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/3] https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Cc-by-sa.png
[13:42:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [3/3] It's not released under CC0, it is in fact IN COPYRIGHT.
[13:44:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to karpeth> #commons-wiki  or <https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard>
[13:44:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aenokoff> Heno is there a way to exclude pages from categories that were assigned to them through templates?
[13:48:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to aenokoff> Some templates have a nocat option
[13:53:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> if you want a nuclear option then in Lua you could do `string.gsub( template_output, '%[%[%s[cC]ategory%s:[^%]]*%]%]', '' )`
[13:58:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to pskyechology> Thanks.
[14:23:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyketro> [1/2] Hi, I'm currently helping build a wiki that's going to be a sister wiki to a pre-existing one, both built with Miraheze. We were discussing moving some of the pages from the pre-existing wiki onto the new, alongside all the files for that page. Is there an option for us to transfer files over from one wiki to another? Or is it the case of having to download and reupload them all? The
[14:23:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyketro> [2/2] se files would be png and webm, if that helps
[14:35:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to tyketro> there are some bots that are capable of downloading all the files and uploading them to another place; we can then import those files to the wiki
[14:44:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tyketro> Ah thanks, are these plug-ins or something external?
[15:21:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aenokoff, replying to rhinosf1> okay ive figured it out thank you
[15:31:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam, replying to karpeth> i don't understand some of your objections. Openclipart for example explicitly releases their works to the public domain
[15:36:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to sharparam> [1/2] The problem is the use of images supplied by Creative Commons.
[15:36:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to sharparam> [2/2] The terms are clear; they are only to be used for identifying terms under CC Licenses.
[15:38:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/2] I mean, I don't understand how I am unclear.
[15:38:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/2] "I would direct the administrators to https://creativecommons.org/policies/ regarding the use of those images." is a clear link to the license terms for images supplied by CC. Those templates are in breach of the terms.
[15:38:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam> you also claim the Lua logo is not public domain, but both the miraheze and wikimedia commons disagree due to the "threshold of originality" which state it's not original enough to be copyrightable, so infringement is impossible
[15:39:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam> you're probably going to have to delete 90% of wikimedia commons at this rate
[15:39:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to sharparam> Let me direct you to https://www.lua.org/images/
[15:39:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam, replying to karpeth> let me direct you to <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Threshold_of_originality>
[15:40:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam> (which is part of the article content you deleted)
[15:41:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> The CC-0 template is definitely incorrect for the Creative Commons files
[15:41:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Whether it passes the threshold of originality is a different matter
[15:41:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to sharparam> That is how wikimedia interprets things. Not miraheze policy and therefor not applicable.
[15:42:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> The threshold of originality still applies to mh commons
[15:43:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam, replying to karpeth> the TOO is a copyright law thing though, not something wikimedia made up
[15:43:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's a matter of copyright law not wiki policy
[15:45:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/2] TOO is a law concept, yes. Linking to a policy on wikimedia commons does not change anything.
[15:45:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/2] The point being is it's wholly unneccessary to claim something is "not passing the threshold", when in my jurisdiction, it clearly does - and the terms of use are almost in the public domain.
[15:45:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to karpeth> What jurisdiction are you?
[15:46:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to rhinosf1> I am in sweden.
[15:46:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to karpeth> We dont give a crap then
[15:46:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> US law applies
[15:47:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/5] These are the terms of the lua logo:
[15:47:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/5] "Permission is hereby granted, without written agreement and without license or royalty fees, to use, copy, and distribute this logo for any purpose, including commercial applications, subject to the following conditions:
[15:47:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [3/5] The origin of this logo must not be misrepresented; you must not claim that you drew the original logo.
[15:47:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [4/5] The only modification you can make is to adapt the orbiting text to your product name.
[15:47:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [5/5] The logo can be used in any scale as long as the relative proportions of its elements are maintained."
[15:48:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> In that specific case, there's literally no reason not to follow that license.
[15:48:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam, replying to karpeth> is the origin of the lua logo misrepresented on miraheze?
[15:48:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> yes
[15:49:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam, replying to karpeth> [1/2] i'd say it's not
[15:49:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam, replying to karpeth> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1548359873991934002/image.png?ex=6aa6c601&is=6aa57481&hm=f2ac962125b2544e901513d0cd6e30d3390d50c48755cf9b554324cfba23b63c&
[15:50:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I've had enough of this
[15:50:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to sharparam> You are not an administrator, and this is getting inflamed. I am not discussing this further with you.
[15:50:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @karpeth @sharparam take this to AN please
[15:50:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam> (what is AN?)
[15:50:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Admin noticeboard
[15:50:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sharparam> ah
[15:50:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard
[16:16:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zh9567, replying to zh9567> Is this somehow due to internet issues? For some reason when I go outside and use mobile data on my phone, the images show up fine. When I am at home using my home wifi, all images show broken file links.
[16:23:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <2_squared> when i set my wiki to private some of the css breaks
[16:23:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <2_squared> and some images don't load
[17:01:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <volcanojungle> just a random question, does anyone here know a way of making "daily article" temples for front pages? i've been using <choose> and <option> but it doesn't seem to always work like expected...
[17:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to volcanojungle> <https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Choose> but I don't think it has options for a time (daily, hourly, etc.)
[17:27:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Typically you just use a single paragraph and use parsers to determine one by day/week/month
[17:55:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <momentary_loss> Is there a way I can set up a banner for my wiki on certain days like Wikipedia does for certain events?
[18:01:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> [1/2] Incredibly stupid question on my end before I do a bunch of research: 
[18:01:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> [2/2] Users for my wiki expressed the default search tool was behaving poorly and requested cirrussearch, now cirrussearch has been enabled and the search bar simply isn't working at all. Is there anything I need to do on my end to fix this?
[18:03:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk, replying to seachameleon> what's your wiki?
[18:08:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to seachameleon> Are you using elastisearch or opensearch as the base?
[18:08:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to tmwyk> Pronoun Palace Wiki
[18:08:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon, replying to karpeth> JustLeafy handled the request and settup so I'm unsure
[18:09:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk, replying to karpeth> ^
[18:09:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> Like I said this is probably a very stupid question, where would I check that?
[18:10:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to seachameleon> link pls
[18:10:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to thewwrnerdguy> https://pronounpalace.miraheze.org
[18:10:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> Beat me to it
[18:10:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk> Special:ManageWiki/extensions
[18:11:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk> i believe
[18:11:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <2_squared, replying to 2_squared> why does this happen?
[18:11:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to tmwyk> I tried looking there, seems like I can't find either of those extensions
[18:11:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> 🤷‍♂️
[18:12:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> okay rebuilding search
[18:12:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk> eh jenny this one's yours
[18:13:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to 2_squared> https://shouldiblamecach.ing
[18:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <2_squared> sooo i should blame caching
[18:14:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to karpeth> This question doesn't need to be asked. Users have no control of the backend on miraheze wikis.
[18:15:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> I assumed not, but I figured if it was being asked it must have been our misconfiguration
[18:15:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to seachameleon> Nowhere but for reference it's opensearch
[18:15:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk> i think we need a rhinos primer on frequent issues and how to fix them
[18:15:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to seachameleon> The question was stupid and inappropriate
[18:15:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to tmwyk> Leave clear tech issues to tech
[18:15:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> If it's an issue with the search engine failing to cach our pages, is there a way on my end to make it do so?
[18:16:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to seachameleon> You wait for @thewwrnerdguy to rebuild search
[18:16:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> (which has finished now)
[18:16:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Sometimes the indexing decides not to do the first index. It's a known bug.
[18:16:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tmwyk> and i confirm it works now
[18:17:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon, replying to rhinosf1> Understood, thank you. If new pages are added will I need to ask for another rebuild or should it work alright?
[18:17:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> should work
[18:17:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to seachameleon> It will work fine
[18:17:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's only the first index that's dumb
[18:18:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Sometimes the maint scripts get ran before the extension is fully switched on to make searching work after enabling cirrus
[18:18:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> So it gets sad
[18:19:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <seachameleon> Thank you both very much.
[18:31:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth, replying to rhinosf1> There’s literally no reason to be rude.
[18:49:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <namkwal> is there a way to put an entire category of pages into a hyperlink color or do you have to put each of them manually on css
[19:21:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lynn.in> Heya, I changed my miraheze username recently, and I think that I'm running into an issue where wiki bot is not detecting any of my edits to forward to discord, do I need to fix something for it?
[20:00:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> What is the name that should be showing up?
[20:01:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Disregard, found it
[20:03:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> It's because your sysop group has the bot right, so you're filtered out of editing
[20:11:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pearl_the_artist> [1/2] is there a way to not have the expand button hug the other end of the page without confining it to a table
[20:11:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pearl_the_artist> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1548425798376235029/image.png?ex=6aa70366&is=6aa5b1e6&hm=637e5fd77c6a3eb1f44381a6bd16b3b6a1bcafd7387d145895936c6124019113&
[20:13:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lynn.in, replying to notaracham> was that always the case? i'm admittedly confused
[20:19:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to lynn.in> since <https://dragdown.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?logid=1071> seemingly
[20:21:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lynn.in> wow
[20:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yup.  Might have been that your recent changes was previously default unfiltered, hard to say
[20:25:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> But definitely been the case for all admins to have bot filtering for a bit.  Removing that filter from recent changes shows you as expected
[20:55:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <galadino> [1/2] why not
[20:55:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <galadino> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1548436868415103067/image.png?ex=6aa70db5&is=6aa5bc35&hm=9f78c48a4c4a7b8f8ce274ff1f2b95a2d18d869cc6e58d02ad299e3eaebb234e&
[20:58:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lynn.in> that's funny
[21:26:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <namkwal> [1/2] hi, am i able to add gradients into custom hyperlink colors and if so how?
[21:26:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <namkwal> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1548444599910006864/image.png?ex=6aa714e9&is=6aa5c369&hm=a76c326e669cb8e9d4ae2c29aee732197fd2eb92b5e507c3da85c5b643831d0f&
[21:26:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [1/2] @orduin regarding https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/File:180px-Red_warning_2.png?curid=47&diff=47368&oldid=47363 - I tried to provide a link to the original artist.
[21:26:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <karpeth> [2/2] The link you reverted is to the original artists homepage as archived. May I ask what’s disruptive about removing guesses that are not linking to the claimed source and replacing them with a link to the actual source?
[21:26:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <namkwal> they just turn white except for ionization which stays the default link
[21:50:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <uranium_mandy> I think this might be a better channel for me to send this message in,
[21:54:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pearl_the_artist> white woman jumpscare
[23:05:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <laytonpuzzle27, replying to amelialoveheart> Unfortunately megaman.miraheze.org is a carbon copy of Mega Man Knowledge Base on Fandom.
[23:28:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to uranium_mandy> I believe what you're looking for Default SEO image for the wiki SEO extension
[23:29:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> WikiSEO also lets you specify a per-page image to display in embedded previews
[23:41:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bonesoup420, replying to galadino> too heavy 🪨
[23:47:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nukesme> [1/2] LMAO
[23:47:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <nukesme> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1548480099676979362/obraz.png?ex=6aa735f9&is=6aa5e479&hm=8ccd84c6e67a33ade1f217d4c87f556b2920928bdfe4f09b6079aa068d91dbec&