[00:22:48] <18.748.837.46> whats the difference between the previous version of mediawiki and the one we are upgrading to? [00:24:09] [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.46 [00:24:09] [2/2] should help [00:26:43] Just an FYI I think 2 hours was a huge overestimate, my new estimate is about 20-30 minutes lol [00:27:29] I am trying this with a new script. I forgot I made it much faster after the last upgrade (1.45) so wiki requests can resume in about 20-30 minutes this time. [00:28:09] <18.748.837.46, replying to amelialoveheart> [1/2] WOW, profound. thank you mediawiki [00:28:09] <18.748.837.46, replying to amelialoveheart> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551751921314824273/image.png?ex=6ab31d18&is=6ab1cb98&hm=7b3334e24a02ff2c3b67da56f6546fd05df086205936b551453f911b5542de78& [00:28:37] I still seemed to have overestimated. Will be back in 5-10 minutes lol. Wow this was faster... [00:28:56] hey it better to overestimate than underestimate at least [00:34:16] I thought that was a rendering error on my end 😅 [00:41:31] They do this often it seems, but someone will eventually fill it out. [00:41:52] Hey, if something went terribly wrong, you have a deadline to fix itm [00:42:57] Something went wrong lol. I was forced to upgrade metawiki to 1.46 because of it. I really hope nothing goes wrong with this. I had always planned to upgrade it tomorrow anyway though. [00:44:12] Oh, what went wrong? [00:46:10] Wiki creations weren't working properly as scripts run on the metawiki version. [00:50:51] Ah [01:01:17] All wikis on https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_projects have now been upgraded since I had to do metawiki today I decided to do them all, since those were just planned for tomorrow anyway. Tomorrow I can focus on the next batch instead, and the full upgrade will be completed in about a week. [01:09:02] Very cool. [01:20:17] Anyway do ping me if anything goes wrong. I will be around but discord will be closed, and I will be away but can jump on if an emergency. [01:24:02] [1/5] i'm very likely to give up on this lua parser endeavor [01:24:02] [2/5] wasted hours more trying this & that to make something work (specifically for the template) and it always fails [01:24:03] [3/5] i'm tired [01:24:03] [4/5] ADD freaking sucks [01:24:03] [5/5] (PSA:) mental health is very important [01:28:05] Help, is it possible to change the nickname for only 1 wiki in the history section there? But only for 1 wiki? [01:35:49] i made an election on crappy software wiki, i promoted it to oblivion and it currently has no traffic [01:35:59] it’s been 1-2 days [01:36:19] what if there are no votes? what happens? [01:37:35] [1/2] hm okay [01:37:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551769396962263170/image.png?ex=6ab32d5e&is=6ab1dbde&hm=31ae8143fc4160d54d0458704000f5bb690e572c091deb6a1fa396329890c793& [01:45:50] Use capital config. config (lowercase) is restricted for security. Though we can probably fix this for wikis that use root article path like that. [01:46:07] oh 💀 [01:46:41] oh right I need to merge your pr [04:10:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki/1.46 [05:23:56] wait, is that pinyin category sorting i see?? 👀 [05:25:55] Yeah. The documentation on mw.org is badly outdated. @honoka55 tested it locally and figured out how to use it though: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14568#320613 [05:26:23] It's unfortunately an undocumented feature so the only way to find out how to use it is to read the PHP source code and/or testing it on a MediaWiki install. [05:26:35] oof [05:26:52] we currently use a template for sorting Chinese (and Japanese, Korean, etc) [05:27:41] though that often means me having to backadd the template when editors forget it lol so it definitely would be nice to just have it sort by romanization by default [05:28:03] but i think it's applied sitewide by default [05:28:40] that means if you enable the pinyin setting when you forget to add the template for japanese it may follow pinyin [05:29:35] ah, i see. that's unfortunate [05:31:18] so it may help wikis that only focus chinese [05:31:42] but anyhow there is also a multilingual implementation: it can sort characters by radicals [05:32:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551828567187398656/Image_1790055145716.png?ex=6ab36479&is=6ab212f9&hm=ea26748b771558c55e39dcc063d3a1bc04ffa2be87a019625bfe28c87e2a5097& [05:33:17] unlike pinyin, radical sort is shared over cjk characters and language irrelevant [05:33:34] stroke is also supported [05:36:02] [1/2] stroke, pinyin, zhuyin, and unihan are implemented in icu and implemented in mw core in 1.45 [05:36:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551829406249656401/image.png?ex=6ab36542&is=6ab213c2&hm=efbae58907f210220ac39575f103c0354f4b44e70aee6a2f2d36276d50894a61& [05:36:41] the change in 1.46 is only it adds another pinyin implementation that's more intuitive [05:38:00] hmm that's interesting, but i feel since most of our viewers are english-speakers, radical sorting probably wouldn't be very beneficial for us lol [05:40:49] i get it now. so basically vlw adds romanization as sortkey for all pages [05:41:02] so i think it's nothing update for you in this [05:41:23] yeah, unfortunately 😔 [05:42:24] i just wonder, if `{{sort}}` is needed for song articles, why don't you simply integrate it into infobox song? [05:48:12] To get {{sort\}} to distinguish between cases when it failed "比例澎湃(Bilipengba)" and cases when it didn't "Eggs and Bacon (Bacon and Ham)" [05:52:43] i see [05:52:58] your wiki's title format is really too complicated [05:54:31] Not really, it's just "Origin title (Romanized title)/producer" [05:55:05] One ASCII space before the parentheses and that's it [05:57:31] yes that's much complicated compared to things like wikipedia lol [08:45:53] I mean we literally have a page called "config wrench" and it's a 50/50 chance on whether they type out the page manually or they just search it within the wiki [08:46:29] Doesn't really, seem that big of a deal if they stumble on this page and wonder why they're being greeted with a blinding white page lol [08:47:36] it is one of the side effects at present, there are several things that won't quite behave because they're mediawiki reserved [08:47:43] usually obscure at least [08:49:11] mediawiki is a funnnnnnnnn piece of software ohhh yeahhhh [08:50:19] it keeps you on your toes [08:54:08] [1/2] mediawiki 1.46 changelog: [08:54:08] [2/2] \- prevented users from accessing any page starting with config by renaming it to a hexadecimal value [09:08:34] 👌 [12:32:56] and this is why we don't recommend you remove the `/wiki` [12:34:29] https://tenor.com/view/meme-vaporized-disintegrate-disintegration-no-fuck-off-gif-23578872 [12:34:54] become too used to not having /wiki i cant go back fuccckkk [12:35:15] what did you try? [13:11:28] [1/2] got spooked by this for some reason [13:11:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551944018223698031/image.png?ex=6ab3cfff&is=6ab27e7f&hm=b2d495b0912c59dbcc3fffd385ef60fe914b1e926d032ae9be8c9c3aaa0a2239& [13:16:41] what happened to the upload page?? [13:17:30] oh that's citizen improvement [13:27:32] comically large browse button vs a comically large preview box [13:57:05] [1/2] https://digdug.miraheze.org/wiki/Dig_Dug_(series) does anyone know if theres a way to fix how the images look on mobile view? [13:57:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551955498172030986/IMG_7861.png?ex=6ab3dab0&is=6ab28930&hm=f7862733a2416be6854c00d98b3a7c36dc8b67a6e8cf03311d5bcbf0b2ddd433& [13:57:14] They look weirdly stretched [14:04:47] I think you can just remove `|center` from the images [14:09:21] Oh that worked thanks [14:58:33] [1/2] Does Miraheze's usage of TabberNeue differ? i feel like this hasn't been working for me [14:58:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1551970969638273145/image.png?ex=6ab3e919&is=6ab29799&hm=cffba7f0e8f9a0065b4dc914d001c800bd34ead91f999e1a812cb172c4e47386& [15:00:57] that works but we are on an older version that doesn't quite work the same [15:01:04] hmm got it [15:01:28] e.g. a label with `Tab=1` wouldn't properly show up on mh, but on the latest version it would [15:38:17] `=/nowiki` should work [16:24:43] oh yeah, but then that requires a specific setting [16:36:28] ah exactly. i totally forgot that bc i turned it on long ago [17:46:47] im going in Special:RequestImport to request an import - i have three separate files - one for page titles, one for file revision histories, and one for all other revision histories [17:46:53] do i do separate import requests for each? [17:47:33] i think so but just double checking lol [17:48:33] ok nvm i do, disregard my above messages [18:21:57] the last one should be the only one necessary [19:08:03] various methods using my Sandbox and the TemplatePreview(?) [19:08:29] I mean what pages [19:18:48] is there a public wiki to test articlefeedbackv5? [19:35:55] [[mh:thepowerfantasy:User:QuestioningEspecialy/Sandbox]] and a template page i never saved (because the template preview extension sufficed) [19:35:56]

[20:15:56] well none of those template invocations work [20:19:37] my citizen theme wiki fonts just got borked, this feels very abnormal -- none of the bold formatting works anymore, is this a me wiki problem or did other people run into this problem [20:22:46] nvm [20:43:45] [1/2] Hi, is there a way to disable or at least default set to collapsed the "last modified" sidebar on the Citizen skin that apparently showed up recently? [20:43:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1552057841270001735/Screenshot_2026-09-22_at_4.41.03_PM.png?ex=6ab43a01&is=6ab2e881&hm=b7dc9bc9cf7fe8db19be2fa00b72a88527057b13081b34d1d4621b477f9af830& [21:11:52] The solution in [this thread]() I think, if I understood your question correctly? [21:13:27] <18.748.837.46> am i allowed to use swear words on my userpage or no [21:16:40] Thank you!