[01:40:05] Hello, I have a question, is it possible to change the link in MediaWiki:Privacypage to my page from the link to the privacy policy that leads to your page? I just wish there wasn't this transition, but I'll copy the privacy policy to my page and update it, can I do that? [01:41:18] ??? [01:50:11] hmmm [01:55:27] No, anyone using a Miraheze site is subject to that specific Privacy Policy, they cannot be provided with a modified version of it [02:43:26] [1/2] Hello, is it possible to place two images in a row in a template without it creating these two tabs? thanks [02:43:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1552873131843260477/79DB56AE-6FDE-451D-9FBF-22351E259A03.png?ex=6ab7314d&is=6ab5dfcd&hm=da0c6bdfd9f4d651a90e21ed3683120c45655dd745891f7821b5a36a7a0c347b& [02:46:57] Hi mirages [02:49:08] Hello there, Hezes. [02:51:18] [1/2] so uh what do i do here 😭 its not putting an infobox [02:51:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1552875115119775885/image.png?ex=6ab73326&is=6ab5e1a6&hm=27f5ce577d3db131eb1f41baec7ba63c22b9971e5c74096857b58002e066262c& [02:54:21] Good day, I am having trouble with the "Module:Infobox/styles.css" module for Dream Fiction Wiki on Miraheze. Whenever I would attempt to import it, it would give me a Lua error. Are there any suggestions for a solution? [04:09:26] Are you importing from Wikipedia or dev wiki? [04:10:03] I am importing it from Wikipedia [04:16:46] We recommended not importing modules from Wikipedia unless nessesary, their modules are very needlessly complicated and annoying [04:16:52] [[Wikipedia]] as related essay [04:16:52] [04:18:46] Understood\ [05:54:30] <.labster> [1/2] Why did the wiki forget what actions are? All unknown action messages: [05:54:30] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1552921217940463636/image.png?ex=6ab75e16&is=6ab60c96&hm=b885b6e484e2d9896584acbfb2ef9edab2eb8d19762d02cfa4cb2b78d57a0548& [05:56:41] <.labster> are page move and page delete going away in 1.46? [05:58:37] I know it happens on WO for some reason where actions on wiki requests fail for having unsafe serialised data or something like that and I don't care enough to fix it [05:58:39] logs are weird [05:58:44] I don't touch things I don't know how they work tbh [05:58:48] logs are one of them [05:59:20] they store stuff in like base64 I think [06:28:27] [1/2] Hello! My previous wiki request (musufeciwiki) was declined/marked as abandoned, and my account Snowballo is currently rate-limited. The wiki is not about a real living person in a biographical sense—it is a purely fictional creative writing and RPG lore project among friends featuring original fictional characters and storylines. Could someone please help me reset the request or [06:28:27] [2/2] allow me to submit it as a Private Wiki? Thank you! [06:35:27] <_arawynn> [1/2] I can re-open it for you if you post a link to the request. [06:35:27] <_arawynn> [2/2] Requesting Wikis is generally restricted to 1 request every 3 days [06:45:21] I think this is the wiki request they were asking about (might be wrong): https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/91644#mw-section-details [06:51:31] <_arawynn> Thank you for the link, I re-opened the request @snowball75 [07:18:08] Thanks mate, I've received the mail. What should I do? Send it again? [07:19:50] <_arawynn> Go to the request and answer the questions I have asked. Then it'll get to the queue to be reviewed by a human so give it a couple days for the next step [07:25:25] I did everything. Thanks for your kindness. [09:21:47] Hello is there a template infobox for the ship class I could import? [09:28:45] [1/2] Hello, I have a question, is it possible to change the link in MediaWiki:Privacypage to my page from the link to the privacy policy that leads to your page? I just wish there wasn't this transition, but I'll copy the privacy policy to my page and update it, can I do that? [09:28:46] [2/2] I really won't change it, I'll just copy it to myself and replace the link, I'll also update it, please, can I? [09:29:31] please [09:29:41] you may be able to technically do it, but you really shouldn't [09:29:53] Your question has already been answered by a Steward, and it was a clear no [09:30:09] it is a legal document and it is Miraheze that controls the private data of editors and readers [09:31:24] I will only copy and update constantly, I don't want there to be a link to another page not in my Wiki, please, can I make an exception? 🙏 [09:31:50] no [09:32:07] Haven't you already been warned multiple times previously about bothering folks with impossible requests? [09:32:46] I don't think there's gonna be an exception (so probably no) [09:34:31] Why? Is it that bad? I will update only the version that is in the original article. Even if I make the world collapse? [09:35:18] you shouldn't update it because the people that actually controls and say what can happen with private data is Miraheze [09:35:53] even you yourself as the creator of a wiki do not control the kind of data and the policies about that data that people are interested in when they read a privacy policy [09:36:01] so you have nothing to update [09:40:21] what's the average amount of time Phorge takes on a medium relevancy public report? [09:40:40] depends on what you mean by report [09:41:03] if it's a bug report be patient because it can either be very easy to debug and fix or a nightmare, hardly ever in between [09:42:16] just requesting a change where the wiki's `$wgDefaultUserOptions's` 'vector-theme' to be changed to 'night' [09:42:50] Hello, how do I change my wiki logo? [09:48:08] I meant that if you allow me to change the privacy policy on my page, I will update it from the official page if there is an update, that's it [09:49:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_change_my_logo_or_favicon [09:50:55] basically upload the logo to your wiki, get the link to the logo once uploaded, and change a setting on Special:ManageWiki on your wiki [09:51:33] Yes it is possible / no [09:52:08] You've literally already been told no multiple times [09:52:27] It is a definite no, and you should probably stop asking [10:07:06] [1/2] I am going to give one final stern warning to you. If you keep asking the same questions after getting definitive answers you will be removed from this server. You have been given 3 warnings for this already, which is more than should ever be necessary. We do not and will not make exceptions against things we usually allow/don't allow just for you, as y [10:07:06] [2/2] ou have been told before, and continuing to ask the same thing does nothing but waste volunteer time. The answers will not change. [10:09:47] :(((( [11:44:45] Anyway, I am glad someone moved my work on [[dev:]] to starter kits [11:44:46] [12:20:22] whose idea was it to make log parameters serialised data in the first place [12:21:12] [[user:PixDeVl/TC 101]] might help if you want to make a PR yourself [12:21:18] [12:23:19] actually i think we allow local pp that links to global pp? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1515635207351566398 [12:27:10] tho copying the entire global pp is another thing. i wonder whether transcluding it works [12:33:51] hm? [12:44:49] , [12:46:16] Or just the plain ship one, [13:23:14] <.thehandyman.> [1/3] Apparently, this should work [13:23:14] <.thehandyman.> [2/3] So, how to actually use it because I am stupid and I'm trying to span style something that doesn't seem to want to be span styled [13:23:14] <.thehandyman.> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553034143607033907/Screenshot_2026-09-25_081918.png?ex=6ab7c741&is=6ab675c1&hm=e5bc0b4006361bafe61a9da84084484a529f86cf98e71fa567aab93cd9886fa7& [13:31:24] Just realized the link for the hacked font is still wrong, needs to be `6/6d/HACKED.woff` at the end instead of `f/f0/HACKED.woff` [13:39:23] <.thehandyman.> stalker isn't stalker-ing with span either [13:44:30] [1/2] It's working on my end, so I'd bet it's a cache issue [13:44:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553039495149129788/image.png?ex=6ab7cc3d&is=6ab67abd&hm=cdfb3798b88203ba75d14a0edf0e9629dc3007f0c0b074b35d8f8ef6abc0b40e& [13:56:15] :screaming: [13:56:28] yeah give it few 5 minites [15:05:42] To change the background image of your wiki with the template:background, does the image need to be uploaded to static.wikitide.net like in the example? Because the example works, but when we try to use links from other sites (like imgur) it doe not. [15:17:31] [1/2] Hi, I requested to move the English Uncyclopedia (uncyclopedia.com) to Miraheze, and my request was rejected because wikis are required to have a specific topic and Uncyclopedia is a parody of Wikipedia with a similarly broad scope. Some of the other Uncyclopedia language editions that moved off Fandom are on Miraheze, like Nonciclopedia (nonciclopedia.miraheze.org). Are they allo [15:17:31] [2/2] wed to remain because they moved here before that restriction was added to the content policy in 2024, or is it possible to make an exception? [15:38:08] idk why they couldn't just be stored as json lol [15:39:05] I think (but don't quote me on it) that past wikis are grandfathered in from that rule [15:39:28] for a lot of content policy restrictions on wiki creations past wikis are usually grandfathered in [15:47:04] Is there any AVIF or JPEG XL support on miraheze? Or mediawiki overall? [15:47:36] Asking here if thats better [16:08:31] [1/3] AVIF is a lot worse than webp [16:08:32] [2/3] JXL isn't supported on mediawiki anytime soon [16:08:32] [3/3] Both AVIF and JXL can be uploaded on MH by modifying accepted extension list but they won't be processed by MW [16:11:08] how could i get the page's URL as a string using lua? [16:15:21] :Hmmm: [16:17:43] when i was doing animated pics, avif performed 100x better than webp [16:18:57] AVIF is terrible to encode and decode without hardware acceleration [16:19:30] well i got a 9070 xt so i guess this is why i never had issues [16:19:38] has an AV1 module [16:20:19] Yes but not all of the visitors of the site have it [16:20:52] i guess, do you know like a good way to turn a video into an optimized webP? [16:21:01] wiki i am working on needs a lot of animated pics [16:21:15] It is more optimized to have it as a video like mp4 or webm tbh [16:21:15] i use ffmpeg but tweaking the params takes forever [16:21:18] upload video to mh directly and use it like an actual video? [16:21:29] autoplay? [16:21:33] animated image even in webp format is quite wasteful [16:21:41] autoplay and loop is possible [16:22:03] the wiki used only gifs (horrible) before [16:22:07] i started doing webps [16:22:22] but idk if i can optimize more [16:22:31] also it was on fandom... [16:22:47] were webms disabled globally or something? no wikis seem to support `webm` anymore [16:23:40] MH disabled video processing so likely removed .webm in the process, you could add it back to the list [16:24:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553079882349674556/npm6zjr.png?ex=6ab7f1da&is=6ab6a05a&hm=4ad153fdb241e64387d01da6db95cc699a6c6483cbd0990230b2c68036cc065e& [16:25:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553080004093546536/jbs8s05.png?ex=6ab7f1f7&is=6ab6a077&hm=cbe8c4c1c97a2ece4542b3a3ab975b099ca28bbb172c462a56907e626ed2c8b8& [16:26:43] would newly uploaded videos work then if `.webm` is re-added? [16:27:01] [1/2] Erm, uploading unity3d games is accepted on MH [16:27:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553080392813387857/4qxw516.png?ex=6ab7f254&is=6ab6a0d4&hm=f0d846e082917416570ab0fd4ab66ebdd7605050d110dd04343acdd8821d37d1& [16:27:07] yes [16:27:09] alr [16:30:12] do i need to add mp4 to the file extensions then? [16:30:15] is that all? [16:31:18] enable mp4, webm or whatever video format then enable EmbedVideo extension [16:32:36] ok, is there a difference between using mp4 and webm or just the codec matters? [16:46:22] Only the codec [16:48:39] Also remember not to use h265 for mp4 files as modern laptops have a chance the manufacturer not paying the license [16:57:39] i use AV1 for all my stuff is it good or should i stick to h264 [16:57:50] support wise i heard its fine [16:58:29] Stick to h264 at the moment [16:58:38] AV1 is too new [17:07:11] Would be nice if vulkan compute shaders is ready so you don't even need HW decode [17:10:52] Ok, that makes sense. I guess I'll have to find another host then. Thanks for answering. [18:14:50] <.thehandyman., replying to .thehandyman.> the cache was emptied and its been hours still not showing for me [18:18:54] if I had to guess, it's more performant having stuff as PHP. But idk if that performance is actually worth the RCE Vector [18:19:08] mw.uri? [18:19:33] is this talking about the CSP? Then you'd have to go to [[phorge]] [18:19:33] [18:31:53] need the page name too and idk how 2 get that [18:32:29] the current page? [18:32:33] yeah [18:32:35] `mw.getCurrentTitle()` [18:32:54] [1/2] so i tried this [18:32:54] [2/2] but then it said shit about it returning as a table???? [18:34:33] idk if it works with a title object but you can just use `.fullText` to convert to string [18:41:10] it does [18:41:17] > fullText: The title of the page, with the namespace and interwiki prefixes and the fragment. Interwiki is not returned if equal to the current. [18:41:50] [18:45:31] still outputting as a table [18:46:36] what's your code currently doing [18:47:15] [1/3] - get url [18:47:15] [2/3] - check if id of object is in url [18:47:16] [3/3] - if yeah, set it as a value [18:47:50] I mean could you send a link/snippet [18:48:23] https://forsaken.wiki/Module:Tab around line 19 [18:49:14] [1/2] works for me [18:49:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553116183484432534/image.png?ex=6ab813a9&is=6ab6c229&hm=ef448fe2af5e0968dc9b7368f68a220fcbe4e3e650aaf1d9879a6651fe46cc9a& [18:49:39] doesnt work on pages thi [18:49:47] https://forsaken.wiki/Forsaken [18:50:34] that's saying you have an error on a completely different line [18:51:09] you'll need to convert the uri object to a string [18:57:27] how would i do that considering its a table object rn? [19:01:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553119308849348700/image.png?ex=6ab81692&is=6ab6c512&hm=d87624926a53cff0793b7ec5199c991777eac598b791d36c6135ca4e1a9e3415& [19:02:03] Tried that, but it complains it isn’t a string. [19:03:44] [1/2] ? [19:03:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553119832474525808/image.png?ex=6ab8170f&is=6ab6c58f&hm=2f37e45f563cdfbc80b2f45d9c5ea08a3a1405fb2ba53b38dfa8f6530188b493& [19:04:29] nvm it was smth completely different [19:04:30] all fixed [19:28:57] since 1.46 is coming soon, is there a specific page or link that always points to the current $wgExtensionAssetsPath? its bit of a pain to keep track of and update pages that link directly to assets stored there (Extension:DataMaps for example) [19:35:34] I'll look into doing this, I don't believe we do yet. But you make a good case for why we should. [20:02:25] we could expose it to mw.config [20:05:36] For stuff like TemplateStyles we can also rewrite it in the backend just like the scripts in mw-config's `initialise/entrypoints`. Not sure how it interacts with caching though. [20:13:43] This is probably the best, least complex option tbh. [20:14:54] Although yeah that only handles JS not other potential uses of it. [20:22:19] is the website on fire [20:22:36] :bombasticsideeye: [20:23:11] [1/2] So I posted awhile ago about bots hitting my wiki. I have had several "Something went wrong" messages recently, that I'm not sure are related, and sometimes it takes a minute for the images on the page to load. I'm not sure if it's ticket worthy. But I think it's more usual that I have about 100 views a day. This has been on a while. [20:23:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553139826440667307/Untitled.jpg?ex=6ab829ae&is=6ab6d82e&hm=21734c0e10520b6857b905773cd842421133543c70e4b7c330b5a9b52b2bd481& [20:24:05] Last time I was told to not worry, but it feels like an awful lot of the bots are trying to log in with I'm not sure what kind of intentions. [20:24:47] <.kotohito> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553140229173674004/Screenshot_20260926-0521352.jpg?ex=6ab82a0e&is=6ab6d88e&hm=21c1150815b0dff580f92131cac807d60ba06e3f19c90b9e52c47fe8d9c712cc& [20:24:55] We are aware and working on it [20:25:17] <.kotohito> OK [20:27:00] <.kotohito> When will a technical solution be available? [20:28:49] Should be recovering [20:29:53] <.kotohito> Ok [20:30:20] Oh it's not just me alr nice [20:30:24] <.kotohito> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553141642582556782/Screenshot_20260926-0529242.jpg?ex=6ab82b5f&is=6ab6d9df&hm=9bcfc4e7c6a63a6520bd24f99907406d4faa3365d97fb6bab881e837ba5969a8& [20:31:40] <.kotohito> Could it just be that the changes haven't been reflected yet due to a time lag? (This image is from 2 minutes ago and I didn't just see it now.) [20:32:17] <.kotohito, replying to cosmicalpha> I'll check it out for now. [20:32:28] Should be back now yeah. [20:34:22] <.kotohito> Thank you for your prompt system response. [20:34:27] we were down when i checked yesterday too rip [20:36:02] <.kotohito> For the record, editing, site protection, and patrolling, which are permitted only to administrators and bureaucrats, are not affected.🫡 [20:36:23] [1/2] Meta Wiki is down for me [20:36:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553143151995125881/image.png?ex=6ab82cc7&is=6ab6db47&hm=9c1eb7376f10cfa37fc23c3ba7cb1fceb740c8ee57a52022194f20d0e82c51ca& [20:37:33] <.kotohito> Yep [20:39:33] ooo were back [20:41:26] [1/2] I'm still getting it lol [20:41:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553144419488632944/image.png?ex=6ab82df5&is=6ab6dc75&hm=38e8799a4eac5e0e8428c98c1246e95d1a43434d378b4a6319075015b97d4775& [20:41:28] <.kotohito> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553144429240393819/Screenshot_20260926-0541062.jpg?ex=6ab82df7&is=6ab6dc77&hm=fa238ea272d8ac35ad2faa9a680bdd2d95ff8fbe87f2441d8f83910842395c6b& [20:42:12] I got this too [20:42:20] <.kotohito, replying to .kotohito> There will probably be a time lag until the maintenance is finished. [20:43:59] There is no maintenance one of our db clusters is having problems we are working on it. [20:44:50] [1/2] ah [20:44:50] [2/2] no worries [20:48:02] <.kotohito> There's no problem. It's the middle of the night where I live, so if the current maintenance is finished by dawn, that's fine. [20:48:29] i was thinking of tackling something like this but idek where to start ive never made a wiki skin [20:49:25] @ forking Cosmos [20:50:14] i had planned on jumping into the files and just figuring it out but i would love any advice for anyone who's ever been involved with making a skin 😭 [20:52:18] <.kotohito> To be honest, I've never done that either. [20:52:25] how do u open a ticket [20:52:33] srry to interrupt [20:53:09] [1/2] bc my wiki is down [20:53:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553147370399604866/Screenshot_2026-09-25_232827.png?ex=6ab830b5&is=6ab6df35&hm=b28c5e3b385531d4727b99f68bb134b7f1bbed48f840c5fb581d39f63e28c0b5& [20:53:20] See #announcements [20:53:20] <.kotohito> Unfortunately, I can only use a smartphone to create articles, so I have to painstakingly verify and edit them myself. [20:53:26] ok thx [20:54:04] <.kotohito, replying to cosmicalpha> OK [20:54:07] when will it be resolved? [20:54:09] that sounds very hard ngl but it could be worse! imagine doing that on a FANDOM wiki [20:54:20] nah but real talk that sounds complicated [20:55:15] The tech team hasn't stated a time, but they're working to fix it ASAP [20:55:22] <.kotohito> For a period of time, I was part of the technical teams for other wiki sites and other media outlets. [20:55:50] interesting [20:55:53] thx [20:57:05] I’m trying to get a wiki semi-restored (same content but rewritten completely from scratch) https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/91820 I hope this will be accepted. [21:07:35] [1/2] A wiki reviewer will probably ask you to write more about the scope. You've given the topic, but not the scope. You need to explain what information about the religion the wiki will cover. [21:07:35] [2/2] Basically, if you categorised all the articles, what would the categories be? [21:09:45] actually this one's more a question for tech [21:11:08] 🙋 [22:12:28] [1/2] Now it's working. Thanks [22:12:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553167330597675038/4ff174c2-63c6-4a63-aab2-9bfb51a6bf2a.jpg?ex=6ab8434c&is=6ab6f1cc&hm=9d6600530e1acb4e347b1ed5dc152f621e20b6c0b670dd138e5586237f798ac7& [23:42:30] What do you mean by "categorized all the articles," like my top-level category tree? [23:43:09] Yeah, that would be my expectation too, because I'm essentially recreating a wiki that caused a decent amount of problems. I would probably want to talk to the tech team to make sure that I can do everything in a way that doesn't destabilize the service. [23:43:25] Although I would say that I am relatively committed to the small scale