[00:34:01] <.thehandyman., replying to .thehandyman.> [1/4] Font issue— appears while logged out but not logged in [00:34:02] <.thehandyman., replying to .thehandyman.> [2/4] (Dark mode is logged in— Light mode is logged out) [00:34:02] <.thehandyman., replying to .thehandyman.> [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553202951928021082/IMG_5805.png?ex=6ab86478&is=6ab712f8&hm=266e524a9ef13d8f54cb7210fe7910d4f6937f6d8db5e52da30b687bfe436df1& [00:34:02] <.thehandyman., replying to .thehandyman.> [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553202952460566588/IMG_5806.png?ex=6ab86478&is=6ab712f8&hm=3795893f53678e70094946a9ad5e6311a90aab5490621a3efdb11f11b28d609a& [00:56:10] <.thehandyman.> What’s the evil setting that disables custom fonts [01:00:25] Does anyone here use Tabber (TabberNueue) ? Im reading up on docs talking about changing a setting, but it looks to be at a level higher than what Miraheze gives us access for. Here is what I am trying to do for my wiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue#Tab_wrapping [01:36:00] Hello does anyone know how to like, you know that when you hover over a Wikipedia page in PC there's like a photo (depends on the topic) and a brief information of the topic [01:47:02] character wikis have that on the main pages [01:47:17] maybe go there and copy/paste the thing that adds it in? [01:58:22] They must’ve fixed it fast cuz it was only down for a few minutes for me [02:30:16] Hello, does anyone know how to make page edits or any edits in the page only by you, because I'm worried people who visit might change without my permission/knowledge and I want to prevent that [02:32:52] if you’re the only bureaucrat on a wiki, perma-lock the article [02:33:03] if you can’t prevent it, just change back the edit [03:20:41] take away the editing right from everyone and give it to another group [03:20:55] or turn on the Moderation extension if you just want to review every edit [03:23:32] Go to ManageWiki > Extensions > Previews [04:01:15] [1/2] Hey, does anyone know why my infobox is doing this?? This seems to be the only infobox that actually works (Infobox Country refuses to work and I can't find the Infobox Conflict anywhere) [04:01:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553255104818319370/image.png?ex=6ab8950b&is=6ab7438b&hm=16d629b79166a65ad0841ba0f50a2fb3d1fa8cccd07175c61eb0110e57ad0210& [04:29:43] i deleted a file of chowder panini and it got replaced by an image of a sandwich [04:29:46] how? [04:33:38] posiblemente tenia el mismo nombre que una imagen alojada en Wikimedia Commons o Miraheze Commons que usa por default tu Wiki. [04:34:22] It may have had the same name as an image hosted on Wikimedia Commons or Miraheze Commons that your wiki uses by default. [05:05:16] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Incredible_Characters_Wiki [05:05:33] (go on desktop) how do i change the background? [05:05:39] the one with the city [05:25:49] [1/3] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings] [05:25:49] [2/3] go here and type ```$wgCosmosBackgroundImage``` [05:25:49] [3/3] and change the backrgound url [05:26:09] i’m not a bureaucrat [05:26:24] :stare: ahh [05:34:26] i cant even test it on the site [05:34:28] ahh [05:34:40] i was thinking using a css template [07:16:00] whats the most popular wiki on miraheze [07:18:32] [[mh:communities:List of wikis by Matomo statistics]] [07:18:33]

[07:19:06] aww battle cats is 3rd [07:19:41] wait i didnt know fisch used miraheze [07:19:42] lol [08:07:45] yup [08:08:00] im surprised forsaken wiki ranks so highly [08:38:44] It really is 2nd because anything that is greyed has inflated stats due to bots. [08:56:54] Oh, is that what that means? [08:57:45] I assumed it was a table readability thing. [08:57:52] How does the table check? [08:58:36] [1/2] > Note that the results are highly susceptible to bot traffic, so if a wiki appears abnormally high on this list, it might be under lots of scraping activity. In particular, page views is usually several times that of visits, but if the number of visits and page views are very close to each other, this is a sign of bot activity. The list below autom [08:58:36] [2/2] atically colors rows with a suspicious visits to page views ratio. [08:59:04] Something lower than 1 to 1.2 is flagged IIRC [08:59:23] Makes sense, and that's a good way to do it. [08:59:33] Which is very generous because in general the average visitor will visit much more than 1.2 pages. [08:59:35] I must have missed that section. [11:20:32] can you fix this for itemasylumwiki 👀 [11:20:43] Cuz lmao [11:20:59] Evil white page [12:27:19] how do i access message boards? [12:27:33] it seems i can only access it from notifications [13:19:06] HELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS [13:19:28] Been a while since I talked here [13:20:29] Do wonder if I can post this here, I just want to show a miraheze page for my favorite fictional biological group of of life [13:20:36] [1/2] https://phtanum.miraheze.org/wiki/Deuvertebrate [13:20:37] [2/2] (Not made by me) [13:22:37] What do you guys think? [13:33:28] kinda curious if any of you ever used ranger navboxes from wiki.gg onto a mh wiki? it is my first time doing so and I think it looks neat [13:33:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553399119870034000/image.png?ex=6ab91b2a&is=6ab7c9aa&hm=624196e363592e2cd27671e52781906edae97814e00ed5baaea2dc0b7e4f2492& [13:35:04] [1/2] i've used them on some wiki.gg wikis in the past as well, like these: https://bxp.wiki.gg/template:balls [13:35:05] [2/2] https://raccoin.wiki.gg/wiki/Template:ChipNavbox [13:41:49] I don’t like how how coded the colors are and how much of a pain it is to reconfigure it to just let you set the color of each element [13:43:35] I have no idea what most of these words mean but it seems cool! [13:46:41] It’s fun how broad of a science biology is because I’m studying it and there is still so many concepts and terms I’m not familiar with [13:53:29] i think battlecats use it? (not sure [13:55:24] [1/2] doesn't seem like it, they don't look like ranger navboxes [13:55:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553404625066131466/image.png?ex=6ab9204b&is=6ab7cecb&hm=3a33c4357c43fb9ff0de15e800fc6e2c4185c0bef53d05e656e13b067b74159c& [13:56:20] This is speculative biology, and more specifically exobiology, these guys are aliens [13:56:35] Oh I know [13:57:46] While there is the complex science terms, it does also seem a lot of the words there are made up to describe features these aliens have thay earth species dont (ie, the radiom is the fan like structure many deuvertebrates have, its an eye, but one that isnt a ball) [13:59:34] [1/2] well at least [13:59:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553405675986624553/image.png?ex=6ab92146&is=6ab7cfc6&hm=15d12f1739a914df63930bf340e75c48020e19f8c0b67ac7da35ea5161b76d74& [13:59:41] ah [13:59:48] I see [14:02:08] Regular bullet list is the main benefit imo [14:02:57] I personally think the simple color switches are a great feature in ranger navboxes imo [14:04:13] [1/3] Also hey wanna ask [14:04:13] [2/3] Just HOW MUCH can you do with Miraheze [14:04:13] [3/3] Besides wikies explaining things, can I also have stuff like images, stories, maybe comics strips and all that? [14:05:32] (And maybe very stupid question but you guys wouldnt dislike me for the fact there is a chance I may move away from miraheze if I feel my wikis become big enough and may deserve their own servers?) [14:06:51] you can, though you have to make sure your use of images, stories, and comic strips comply with [fair use law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use) [14:07:13] is it just me or did cosmicalpha's fancy miraheze webhook died [14:07:26] (unless if you created those images, stories, and comics and uploaded them, you're pretty much free to do so) [14:07:37] nah, of course not [14:07:55] we're not like fandom [14:07:59] So you mean anyone can use the image as long as no one claims it as their own? [14:08:21] Fandom wikis are just annoying now with the sheer ad spam [14:08:58] if you wanna upload an image that's not yours, whether you claim it as yours or not, you still have to make its use comply with fair use law [14:09:05] if ya wanna move away from miraheze, no one is gonna stop you [14:09:11] heh [14:09:42] e.g. are you uploading a movie poster to put it inside an article describing the movie? the use of that poster can comply with fair use law [14:09:52] Yeah I just geel it may be good but not sure how absurdly far J could tske it [14:10:07] but uploading full scans of copyrighted comics is not [14:10:39] Unless I made those comics? [14:10:45] yeah [14:11:01] if you own the comics and wanna put them on the wiki, you can freely do so [14:11:06] cuz you own the copyright to them [14:12:02] [1/2] And heck could I even put maps into miraheze like in FANDOM? [14:12:02] [2/2] And just how far can I take this? 3D star maps? [14:12:03] yeah, it's quite unfortunate how there are still so many decent wikis there that are still dealing with all the ads, bloat, and ai slop [14:12:44] yeah, there is an extension for interactive maps: DataMaps [14:12:56] Alright then [14:12:58] [1/3] how do you think of such comics on miraheze? [14:12:58] [2/3] https://www.sekaipedia.org/wiki/1koma [14:12:58] [3/3] https://bandori.miraheze.org/wiki/BanG_Dream!_Girls_Band_Party!/Loading_Screen_Comics [14:13:01] [1/2] > And just how far can I take this? 3D star maps? [14:13:02] [2/2] 🤷‍♂️ [14:13:43] Oh wow [14:14:36] A bit ambitious but if I do make the wiki for my sci fi setting and actually update it frequently unlike last time, then I may eventually want to do something somewhat similar to the Spore menu screen [14:29:13] Also hope this is allowed as its less of a wkki question and more premise of a fictional setting question but does "sci fi setting set throughout one to multiple regions of space very far from earth and features no humans, plus is spread over millions of years of time" seem like a strong premise for a collaborative fiction project? [14:29:24] And wpuld hosting it in miraheze help with that? [14:53:22] Oh [14:57:13] <_arawynn, replying to mancrab1245> [1/2] As a general premise why not? It's got lots of room for people to invent planets, societies, races and the likes. [14:57:13] <_arawynn, replying to mancrab1245> [2/2] A Wiki - be it on Miraheze or elsewhere - certainly helps by giving you the opportunity to gather all the facts in a structured and easily searchable format. It's also not depending on a wild collection of Word files/Google doc documents/notes and so on [14:58:50] <_arawynn> Though I won't lie, writing a wiki and setting up a way you want it to organize needs time and work [15:29:34] So best to lower my standards for the first phases? [15:30:42] <_arawynn> in regards to the worldbuilding in general or writing a wiki? [15:50:34] My question is, why do I regularly get kicked out of my wiki account? Is it impossible to extend the life of this? Thanks! [15:54:01] whats with the stinky load times today [15:56:18] Hi, is this the channel to request help about miraheze wiki account issue? [16:00:40] #tech might be a better channel depending on your exact issue [16:01:53] How can I help people, how can I become part of a team? [16:03:00] Anyone is welcome to support users on Discord. If you want to become a volunteer (e.g. Wiki Reviewer, admin, steward) there are guides on Miraheze Meta, which I will link for you [16:03:51] Read this to learn more about helping Miraheze users: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Contributing [16:18:14] I have a question, if I do not know English and if I translate, will I achieve at least someone success in helping in the discord? [16:18:27] I will communicate through a translator. [16:24:44] is #miraheze-tech ? I'm on IRC now [16:29:38] [1/3] cleared out my MediaWiki:Common.js and only kept Discord Widget code [16:29:38] [2/3] still stuck with this [16:29:39] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553443442284040192/image.png?ex=6ab94472&is=6ab7f2f2&hm=1ad263d57ef22a12a9db613345dac71bc6e5e81897b37ec409332b25cbe84eb4& [16:36:51] Yes, #tech on discord is #miraheze-tech on IRC [16:44:20] Regardless of your English-language knowledge, help is much appreciated on Discord, provided that your messages are accurate [16:45:24] okay [16:45:55] what can I do to help other than respond to messages in the discord? [16:47:48] You can help the individual Wikis that you are interested in by expanding, proof-reading, and otherwise improving articles. This (https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Contributing) is the most detailed guide about helping Miraheze users [16:48:43] Thanks [17:14:23] [1/5] hello! i'm a editor at sekaipedia and we got the new wiki update, one thing that i noticed is that transparent images with a link is getting underlined, is there a way to hide this? [17:14:23] [2/5] code example: [17:14:23] [3/5] ```[[File:Wl3rdfinale2026 logo.png|thumb|325px|link=Connect to SEKAI!]]``` [17:14:24] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553454702346117170/image.png?ex=6ab94eee&is=6ab7fd6e&hm=e86ce212c37fabf1d11895eb04320fa5371918e12cada87d7cdd51e4a7f7f6a1& [17:14:24] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553454702685982760/image.png?ex=6ab94eee&is=6ab7fd6e&hm=01719cacff8c14636e92a6d1689b6a1877e1801f32dc5b48462f9529585983f6& [17:15:15] can you link the page [17:21:45] https://www.sekaipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page [17:22:13] sorry forgot to link! [17:22:43] battle cats wiki uses ranger [17:24:02] oh honoka already said that [17:24:15] iirc everything but Template:Cats and Template:Enemies uses ranger [17:24:46] Ah I see [17:24:54] Cool [17:26:10] I mean the easiest fix would be to use the defaults [17:35:28] Is there anyone that can kinda hold my hand and walk me through getting the info boxes for Countries, Former Countries, Conflicts and Units? Im new to this, sorry 😭😭 [17:50:43] I don't understand what you want in more detail, I'm sorry. [17:50:55] Maybe I can help you. [18:01:09] honestly infoboxes are probably the most deceptively complicated templates, and people ask for help with them all the time, so you're definitely not alone [18:02:02] if you haven't already, I'd recommend making a post in #support about it since something like this will probably require a lot of back and forth over a period of time [18:06:00] these one label game loading comics are uploaded for free on Twitter, so I'd imagine they probably do fall under some kind of fair use clause? they aren't scans of commercial comics or anything [18:07:36] probably, so i think it might not be proper to say uploading copyrighted comics definitely violates [18:07:48] I don’t believe that would work [18:07:59] You can make something free and still retain copyright [18:08:34] Fair use is transformative, educational, or commentary [18:08:40] tho on the other hand i'm also not sure why this is fairuse. is it for Introduction? commentary? or what? i think it's more like simply archive [18:09:14] The safest option is always to get explicit permission from the rights holder [18:09:49] 🤔 some of sekaipedia's is fan-translated so i guess that could count, though of course fan translation is always a gray area [18:10:33] exactly. btw wikipedia won't agree including full lyrics of a copyrighted song is fairuse [18:10:57] if we follow that standard wikis like vlw doesn't make sense from the beginning [18:11:01] so i really wonder [18:12:07] if so, does the original text version count fairuse? what if fan translation is not edited into the image but is standalone on a wiki page? [18:12:21] yes it's been talked about before that Wikipedia has stricter copyright policies than Miraheze [18:12:50] so we should be talking on whether they count fairuse on miraheze [18:13:17] (wikipedia of course won't allow this) [18:13:38] Song lyrics are fair use if you transcribe them yourself [18:13:48] Otherwise they’re still copyrighted [18:14:09] oh that's interesting [18:14:16] if so vlw would have to remove many pages [18:14:54] Of course, the rights holder would have to prove that you copied the lyrics they put out, but that’s a slippery slope [18:15:59] i think i can't dictate a japanese song lyrics exactly the same as original even if i can hear each single word clearly so that can actually be easy [18:16:17] ? how would we even prove we transcribed them? anyway, a good chunk of our lyrics are submitted by the artist themselves [18:16:25] The text and the images have different copyrights [18:16:40] I've also never heard that -- music companies are famously litigious [18:16:42] So the translated text is fine, but putting the text back on the comic is not [18:17:06] They mostly don’t gaf about the lyrics since it doesn’t hurt them commercially [18:17:40] then seems many wikis actually are abusing fairuse term [18:18:17] btw til the correct word should be transcribe. our wiki has been using the word dictate for many years [18:19:12] nah, at least the Japanese companies 100% do. and probably a lot of Western ones too. hence the whole debacle where Genius got sued and now they pay for the license [18:19:54] we mostly get away with it since the majority of our songs are independent so the creators are generally ok with lyrics being posted elsewhere [18:20:00] i guess mh is not going to deal with them before receiving an actual dmca notice? [18:20:32] but consider the prsk and bandori comics and lyrics they're without doubt commercial works [18:20:53] They're very similar words, to be fair. To dictate is to say something to be written down, to transcribe is to write something that's said. [18:22:18] yes, I've seen this mentioned as the tract that mh prefers to take [18:23:03] [1/2] ohh so our phrasing is really wrong lol. we're using 'dictation by ' [18:23:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1553471982689984615/image.png?ex=6ab95f06&is=6ab80d86&hm=d7f5d973424960622a4a1739bdcb2368c802a8c520c79d417d6228e54306a64c& [18:23:25] it should be transcription by [18:24:09] the category name is also wrong.. i decide not to touch them if they're working and no one raised it [18:24:17] "transcribed by ear" is probably what you're looking for [18:24:42] if you're doing it based on pure sound, since you can also "transcribe based on text in the video" or whatever [18:25:08] oh the common thing for vocaloid songs [18:25:18] we usually copy by ear for all [18:28:24] [1/2] oh i think i know how this happens. we call it 听写 (lit listen write) in chinese. but a type of test where you write down the word read by a teacher is also called 听写. and before the llm generation we just translated the word 听写 into english with google translate, which gives the result dictation and we've been using it. but the test is called dictation in english bc it describes w [18:28:25] [2/2] hat the teacher does instead of what the student does, while in our context the word is more like what the student does so it should be transcription [18:29:32] <.labster> I would really prefer if you weren't giving a CC-BY-SA license to song lyrics, though. It doesn't work to say "this song is owned by someone else", you have to not grant the license to reproduce. I guess you can license a translation, though. [18:30:26]